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lol that would of looked a bit odd..lol
I thought toe in was good for straight line stability and 'safeness' whereas a bit of toe out helps cornering/turn in.
Did reply to this but it seems to have been lost! That is the basic essence of it, as for the dynamic effect it depends on way too many factors to call one "right" for FWD and wrong for RWD, plus the fact that one person will prefer toe in on a certain setup and one toe out... Personally from any experience I've had racing sims/remote control etc (Also backed up by theory learnt through lecturers at uni, Milliken and Milliken, Tune to Win, etc) on anything RWD I prefer toe out on the front and in on the back, as it gives a more responsive feel on the front but a stable feel on the rear under power... TO A GIVEN SETUP. It is not a be all and end all option, as is any settings tweak, depends entirely on other geometry, settings, the actual car and it's weight distribution, the air temperature (no I'm not kidding) etc etc.
Rich654
30-06-11, 11:21 AM
Looks amazing :)
Mk, nice cheers. Way to much for me to think about there...lol
Cheers Rich.
Had a nice delivery from the chromer to day.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0074.jpg
Ooooooooooooooooooooo
Can you tell what it is yet?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0076.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0077.jpg
Best get them fitted..
Old ones, where way to dirty..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0075.jpg
Mmmm much better..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0080.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0081.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0082.jpg
Sadly that was all the chrome bits i got fitted at the mo.. More to come tho.
Repainted my mirrors too,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0070.jpg
Inc this bit..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0071.jpg
As it looked dirty and dull when you look like this... Now its much better.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0073.jpg
When i was getting my tracking done, i was having the prob that my alt belt was screaming, so had a look to find this...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0083.jpg
It had snapped off in the inlet.. Started drilling it and hitting it with a hammer and chisel, Dan came a gave a hand and got it out, then tapped the hole clean. I fitted semi new bushes to the arm and put it back together all nice. Then carried on cleaning.
Southie
30-06-11, 08:49 PM
Hubba Hubba Hubba more shiny bits, your a bloody magpie lol
One day I'll see this in person but probably next year now :(
davidfox280585
30-06-11, 08:49 PM
you never seem to amaze me benn,your standards are set high and you have built such an impressive unique nova,though i think the tank would look better rubbed down and primed and painted properly,ive painted me escort tank with the gun looks so much better,but i guess its something which can be altered at a later date,
otherwise she looks sweet and the tank straps look awesome
Hubba Hubba Hubba more shiny bits, your a bloody magpie lol
One day I'll see this in person but probably next year now :(
Why are you not coming to Billing?????????????????????????????????????????
you never seem to amaze me benn,your standards are set high and you have built such an impressive unique nova,though i think the tank would look better rubbed down and primed and painted properly,ive painted me escort tank with the gun looks so much better,but i guess its something which can be altered at a later date,
otherwise she looks sweet and the tank straps look awesome
Thank you very much David. That's very nice to hear.
The tank was only lightly sanded before it was painted, but was done quickly. So the surface wasn't 100% so there are quite a few marks in it. But it looks ok. I should of done it right tho.
Glad you like the straps.
Southie
30-06-11, 09:51 PM
Sorry Benn but I've a family wedding on the Saturday night, I've not seen my mother for 18 months so having a catch up, crappy that it's landed on the best car show weekend though :( Always next year though.
Pfft, my Mrs's best mate is getting married tomoz, i aint going..lol
TV live?
MK1_Ben
30-06-11, 09:57 PM
Looking good as always :)
That anti-roll bar is needing some TLC though ;)
Cheers Ben, I noticed that in the pics too, But the beam needs a re paint tbh. So i can get done nice nicely.
The Simps
30-06-11, 10:05 PM
Car looks better and better every year mate! Have fun at Billing winning trophies....
Southie
30-06-11, 10:07 PM
Pfft, my Mrs's best mate is getting married tomoz, i aint going..lol
TV live?
Nah I'm watching something on Sky+ lol
When's TV live?
Car looks better and better every year mate! Have fun at Billing winning trophies....
Cheers Si, you at billing? Havent seen you in ages.
I won win.
The Simps
30-06-11, 10:29 PM
No billing for me. Mates down for the wekend for his 30th. Dont think I'll be making any car shows this year. All going to plan the nova could be about next year.
Get it done, do all the cars shows. Good lad.
Southie
30-06-11, 10:45 PM
30 of july, at Combe.
I'll check my diary, in other words check with the missus.
scott.parker
01-07-11, 05:34 PM
Benn them straps look ace, shame you don't see them! lol
Roof looks spot on, glad it worked out all good in the end.
And the alt bolt, well it seams this happens quite a bit on big blocks, mine did it in 05 on M coming back from MK meet/go karting.
See you at billing.
Nova_Tek
01-07-11, 05:55 PM
Nice finish on the chroming. Which compnay are you using to get it done? All the ones I'v tried in my area are useless. Don't get back to you don't answer their phones.
Benn them straps look ace, shame you don't see them! lol
Roof looks spot on, glad it worked out all good in the end.
And the alt bolt, well it seams this happens quite a bit on big blocks, mine did it in 05 on M coming back from MK meet/go karting.
See you at billing.
Ah but with mirrors under the car you do.. lol
Roof needs a few tiny bits to finish it but its way better than it was.
Nice finish on the chroming. Which compnay are you using to get it done? All the ones I'v tried in my area are useless. Don't get back to you don't answer their phones.
It's a local place to me, they are really good.
Nova_Tek
04-07-11, 07:33 PM
Got any details - have a feeling by the time this lot near me contact me back I'll probably be able to post it to them and get it posted back quicker. How long do they take to get bits plated?
Jeff16v
05-07-11, 03:39 PM
Car looked very nice at the weekend Benn, can you make it higher next year for the pics as i couldn't get under it. lol
Got any details - have a feeling by the time this lot near me contact me back I'll probably be able to post it to them and get it posted back quicker. How long do they take to get bits plated?
I second this as I have given up on the chrome platers in this part of the world. Am building a small collection that could be posted to someone reliable, and in this case, we have all seen and drooled over their work!
Looked as stunning as ever on the MIG stand (boo) Benn :) One thing is did notice though was the angle of the N/S driveshaft, it looked like the you have hit a curb and knock it back..
Got any details - have a feeling by the time this lot near me contact me back I'll probably be able to post it to them and get it posted back quicker. How long do they take to get bits plated?
I can get you some. They took about two weeks to be done, but he did for get about them. So say a week...lol
Car looked very nice at the weekend Benn, can you make it higher next year for the pics as i couldn't get under it. lol
hahah Cheers dude, can't go higher.. So more mirrors?
I second this as I have given up on the chrome platers in this part of the world. Am building a small collection that could be posted to someone reliable, and in this case, we have all seen and drooled over their work!
lol they are very good. He gave me a free pen too...
Looked as stunning as ever on the MIG stand (boo) Benn :) One thing is did notice though was the angle of the N/S driveshaft, it looked like the you have hit a curb and knock it back..
See other thread dude, looks like my box is a little to far forward so it's giving the shaft a bad angle. Am working on how to fix it... And thank you :) makes it all worth it.
So, where did we get too? Oh yeah. Looks like my F28 is a bit to forward, hence my drive shaft angle, So some where from lining the mount up with the box, to making it, to removing the box to welding the mount on its got abit out of line.. So the mount holes have been slotted to try and give me a bit move movement. But even with the rear mount lose i get almost no movement... Not sure what to do now.
Trying to get some movement...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0118.jpg
The box doesn't move so needed some help..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0119.jpg
Still wouldn't hardly move... Hhhmmm why? It a tiny bit better, but is something i (anyone with a idea?) need to think about and try and work out... but car back together. New inner Cv joint fitted.
Now as it's Tv Live in a week, i wanted to do a few things, one was this...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0120.jpg
My oil cooler is mounted behind the front panel in the wheel arch, so it gets lots of air, but not a huge amount of face on air... As i'll be on track a bit more face on air will be good so....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0121.jpg
May not look straight but it is, hence the tape in the first pic..
This isn't the tidest (glue), but i cut some mesh, which has been painted satin black just to protect the cooler.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0131.jpg
Worked out where the cut out is, and cut some holes in the bumper.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0129.jpg
Holes sit right in front of the cut out for max air.(pics before mesh fitted)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0127.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0126.jpg
Also gave a lil chamfer to my pads to stop them squeaking when cold.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0117.jpg
Just needs a wash now...
my box is a little to far forward so it's giving the shaft a bad angle. Am working on how to fix it
Snigger :)
Good idea on the oil cooler, doing it's dual purpose thing pretty well there, function for track and hidden for shows :)
Yeah lots of funny shaft talk... I did like my cooler place too :)
Liking the cooler location too, looks cool behind the bumper holes. Assume you tidied up the edges and painted it all up before finishing?
Rear arb needs to be chrome too, maybe the whole beam? lol
Liking the cooler location too, looks cool behind the bumper holes. Assume you tidied up the edges and painted it all up before finishing?
Yeah but just quickley, so will re done it better later. Filed them off nicely, re sealed and painted, the mesh was glued on but needs to be tidier too. But it does the trick for now.
Rear arb needs to be chrome too, maybe the whole beam? lol
Beams gonna get re power coated and i have thought of chroming the bar, but think its to longer for my chromer.
Been annoyed with the car a bit, so haven't done much on it.
But felt in the mood today, so jacked it up and replaced the Inner CV boot that was leaking, while in there i had a thought on my shaft angle/mount probs.
Undid the rear mount of the box (did it off the car before) this allowed me to move the box more on the slotted front mount. Moved it back as much as i could with just a ratchet strap. Got about an inch of move ment, which has taken quite alot of angle out of the shaft which is good.
Pics arn't the best, this one looks alot worth than it is.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/shaftangel1.jpg
Better than before.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/shaftangel5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/shaftangel2.jpg
Got a new camera for my Bday, had to get out and test it as it was nice weather...
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben3.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben2.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben4.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben5.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben.jpg
Got a new camera for my Bday, had to get out and test it as it was nice weather...
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben3.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben2.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben4.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben5.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Photo%20sessions/rsben.jpg
Jeff16v
30-08-11, 07:30 PM
Nice pics Benn, what camera did you get?
Got a Canon 60D, it's a weapon.
davidfox280585
30-08-11, 07:37 PM
benn,regarding the gearbox,
can you space the front mount form the box slightly to give it a little more to the rear, reason is i did this on the xe cabriolet when i fitted solid mounts as the cam cover was itting the chassis mount worked treat for me,i spaced mine with 2 washers on each bolt,maybe worth a trip to bapps for some uprated bolts too though with 2 mounts taking the torque i think spaced with longer bolts may be the answer
I tried some 10mm spaces in there, they moved it back some, but they looked sh*te being in there. And 10mm isn't much.
Over the winter i will look at getting a new mount made with move space on the hole as that should do it...
The Simps
31-08-11, 09:21 PM
Looking good benny boy! Any room to fit a spacer on the rear wheels to fill the arch a touch more?
Yeah, but i'm changing the wheels for deffo over the winter. I wanted to this year, but couldn't get one ones i really wanted.
Cheers too :)
LEWI007
02-09-11, 09:58 PM
Looks mint mate, but if it were mine....
Those doorhandles look like theyre gagging to be painted the same colour as the bumpers !
Whats your opinion on that one then ? lol
You think? Where's some one with photo shop when you need them..lol
LEWI007
02-09-11, 10:38 PM
Aye, hasnt that ever crossed your mind yet ?
No, did them in blue and didn't look back. The handles before i did in grey to brake the colour up... But didn't find i needed to this time... But i do have spare handles in case i changed my mind.. haha
LEWI007
02-09-11, 10:53 PM
Hmmm, i think we need a photoshop.
If it were mine id be happier with them black, but what about you :cool:
See if Southie will do a shop
Black? No no no no, trim should never be black, as they arnt at the start.... Like bumpers.. lol
LEWI007
02-09-11, 11:06 PM
Well i dont mean exactly BLACK lol.
I mean like the metalic colour of your bumpers, i did mine like that before and flat/polished them and they looked great, i would always point i out to people and they would be like, woow yeah look at the metalic in the doorhandles lol lol
To give you an idea
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd220/lostboy_014/rsben5.jpg
LEWI007
03-09-11, 12:50 PM
I like it :)
lol cheers wwwmmmwwwwwthingie.
I might paint a spare... When i have time...;)
scott.parker
03-09-11, 06:00 PM
Ever thought of pillar vinyl? I always like the look of it on nova's to make the window's flow through from back to front etc..
Dark handles does look cool too..
Ever thought of pillar vinyl? I always like the look of it on nova's to make the window's flow through from back to front etc..
Dark handles does look cool too..
This is only my opinion but I wouldnt go grey on the handles. They were used as a subtle mod that keeps the handle within the recessed part of the door and being colour coded helps disguise this and aids a smoother complete article. To go grey on them would defeat the object of what Benn was trying to achieve I think. I stand in a similar position on the vinyl also as I dont think it would suit this car.
Nick.
Pillar vinyl ftw, I agree with Scott on that
All personal opinions tho
I don't think the handles in gray would suit it at all imo
scott.parker
04-09-11, 12:56 AM
This is only my opinion but I wouldnt go grey on the handles. They were used as a subtle mod that keeps the handle within the recessed part of the door and being colour coded helps disguise this and aids a smoother complete article. To go grey on them would defeat the object of what Benn was trying to achieve I think. I stand in a similar position on the vinyl also as I dont think it would suit this car.
Nick.
You could be right, as some times i look at mine and think, god it looks gash, what am i doing, am i making a iffy 90#s mock rally/track car, or am i making a mess! lol
I never set out to make any actual look with mine, i just thought, i like the idea of this, then this, then this, and just did them, even i don't know if it looks good, i lever that everyone els to judge, i think IMO it look ok...
LEWI007
04-09-11, 01:05 AM
For some reason i just think the handles look better body colour when the bumpers are also body coloured, and if theyre anthracite, then the handles look better anthracite too.
I wouldnt put a pillar vinyl on though itll look too much then.
When i first painted the car, it was gonna have the vinyl but painted on. So it would all blend thru nicely. But forgot to and never looked back.
In some ways it would look nice, in others i don't think it would...
Nick sees the way i think. I knew where was a reason that the blue looked best.. Its to help it blend in..
The Simps
04-09-11, 02:17 PM
I'm with nick too.
The blue is staying as it makes the smoother look. Try a silver handle on them and it makes them stand right out. Which i don't want.
Bit of an update, just small stuff.
These where looking old and a bit tatty...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0163.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0164.jpg
But Billing came to the rescue and i got a brand new stalk can side, with the added bonus of these...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0165.jpg
Bit of hiding and fiddling to get the other end in and finished yet tho.
Refitted my track bumper for Combe, a moment of madness mad me do this...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0166.jpg
Wish i hadn't. Might get another, want the center holes to be circles to match the cooler holes.
Also have tried to re seal my sump, as the bloody thing is still leaking. Hope this might have done.
What's the extra buttons on the stalk?
Bumper looks fine, maybe a bit of mesh in it? I reckon you should tart it up and paint it so it still looks pretty on track!
Oh sorry, its for cruise. Not meshing it, if i can get another i will, so all the holes match.
So set about remove the knackered cv today..
Said damage.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0356.jpg
Ah see where this is going...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0357.jpg
This became a *******.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0358.jpg
Had to use a crowbar to get it out, as the cv was new the curclip was very strong, so doing that i've damaged the oil seal. Bugger.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0362.jpg
Ordered one from Ebay, and will order two at Vauxhall tomoz. As you can see that one was 2nd hand and so is the other side.
Boot off...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0360.jpg
Ah, i see what's happened...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0359.jpg
Cage gone, bearings gone, grease... All over my frigging engine bay.
Via work i got two more cvs in, one to go on the car the other just to keep as a spare.
Built the shaft back up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0361.jpg
From there i moved to the gearbox mount issues. Boost pipes off, unto bolts mount to car...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0363.jpg
Doesn't look to far out... This with with a jack holding the box up, the rear mount lose, with a bar in thru the hub to the gear box (will do it correctly with the shaft when i've replaced the seal)
So measure, remove mount, make template for new mount to be made up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0365.jpg
Extra metal added in to move box back..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0364.jpg
Template made,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0366.jpg
Gonna take this to the guy that does metal fab tomoz, to get him to build me a new mount.
Oh and some flowers i bought the Mrs.. lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0355.jpg
Jeff16v
02-10-11, 02:04 PM
Bad luck on the cv dude, what a mess!
Nice flowers, was you in trouble?
brainsnova
02-10-11, 02:16 PM
Maybe to make up for the attention he gives his car lol
Bad luck on the cv dude, what a mess!
Nice flowers, was you in trouble?
Was worse that it was at Combe, on only my 3rd lap. And nah they just looked cool...lol
Maybe to make up for the attention he gives his car lol
She gets way more some how..lol
f28 and cv joints love snapping no matter what you do!! and as for the engine mount, i had the same problem with mine! make sure you take at least 4 cvs when you next go out on tracklol
Hoping remade mount will sort the cv issues out.. But i have a spare for next time.. lol
You had probs with the shaft angels too? Mount to far forward?
Southie
02-10-11, 08:43 PM
Glad your staying with the blue handles, if your needing ever a pshop just pm me Benn ;)
Might need a wheel one.... ;)
Ordered a new oil seal (£22 from gm all in, £11 from ebay... Well i have a spare)
Fitted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0367.jpg
Part number of the seal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0380.jpg
Damage to paint work having to leaver the cv joint out...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0368.jpg
Got the shaft back in,Fitted my PAD mount..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0369.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0370.jpg
Worked out when it should fit too..
Got a scissor jack in between the box and the cross member, starting winding it till...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0377.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0372.jpg
Will go a bit more, but happy with that. With a bit of adjustment in the mount i should get it 100% straight... So i can drop the mount off tomoz.
That mount doesn't look that strong, perhaps brace it with some cardboard?
Gonna touch the paint up while you're there then?
you should use these on the holes just to be sure
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wftKXuYgL.jpg
Should of took tother shaft out, put a bar through the diff and tapped the cv out that way. Depending on if you have a std diff or not.
I remember trying get a smashed cv out Pauls F28 at Combe, with a similar result.
That mount doesn't look that strong, perhaps brace it with some cardboard?
Gonna touch the paint up while you're there then?
lol it did the job. Touched the paint up.
you should use these on the holes just to be sure
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wftKXuYgL.jpg
lol needed it, the bottom hole ripped :(
Should of took tother shaft out, put a bar through the diff and tapped the cv out that way. Depending on if you have a std diff or not.
I remember trying get a smashed cv out Pauls F28 at Combe, with a similar result.
I know, but my garage isn't big enough to be able to work on both sides.. The drivers side is about 2" from the wall at the mo... I have a Quafe diff too :)
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Picked the mount up, dropped it off at 11ish, picked it up at 2. After talking to the fab man, about getting a mount made up. He said tbh plating the side that needs extending will be just as strong. Same we adding on the fines. As 70% will will be on the main body of the mount it wouldn't be needed. Knowing he knows what he's doing i left him too it.
The mount.. Had the holes welded up for strength and so it looks better.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0381.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0382.jpg
Nice welding, lots of penetration
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0383.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0384.jpg
Gonna refit tomoz and work out where to drill the new holes.
ben doodar
04-10-11, 09:10 PM
nice to see your still working hard on the nova benn whilst ive lost all enthusiasm for working on cars.
any other plans over the winter mate? any plans on wheels yet?
Ive lost a bit too dude, but where the weathers been so nice ive seen lots of peeps in there cars they wrap up in winter. Making me just wanna be able to drive mine! I have a few bits i wanna do, wheels are a must.
ben doodar
06-10-11, 10:46 PM
Whilst in the local magazine library (tesco) noticed a cool pic of your engine bay in the back of the tv mag. Looks cracking mate.
Yeah that was a nice little surprise. :)
Working out where the holes where was a lil tricky..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0396.jpg
Did it, drilled holes, found out i got the angle wrong so had to re-drill one and slot the other a bit. Green lines are cause i was a little worried the holes where lower than before, but that's cause i have jacked the box up a bit higher too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0387.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0390.jpg
Yay all bolted on and holding the box up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0388.jpg
Now because i way over speced the mount there was a bit of trimming need.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0399.jpg
But that is good, as i can use the excess as a shoulder for the top hole, as the hole it right center on the weld to the metal is two different heights. (welding it on tomoz in place of the washers)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0390.jpg
Now with the mount on, the shaft is... Straight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0394.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0395.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0393.jpg
Hard to see i know, boot has a kink too which i need to adjust.
Cheers dude... Cant wait to drive it again...
Nice work Benn
Looks like youve got some grease to clean up tho :(
The Simps
15-10-11, 12:31 AM
Are you still messing around with that mount?!? Jeez..... lol
Hope you're well mate.
Cheers Ed, yeah i need to get the jet wash out..lol
Cheers Si, yeah i am. Interest has really been lacking...
Jeff16v
15-10-11, 08:17 PM
Glad you sorted it mate, chroming mounts?
Nice shaft.
lol you said shaft.
Glad you sorted it mate, chroming mounts?
I've been thinking of it as i have a few bit to take down, but wasn't sure how well the chrome will take to the weld....
Jeff16v
15-10-11, 09:28 PM
I've been thinking of it as i have a few bit to take down, but wasn't sure how well the chrome will take to the weld....
Would look nice IMO :)
Yeah it would.. But will chrome plating take to the welding.....
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So i trimmed the mount down today...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0400.jpg
Now because where the holes needed to be, the top hole was on the welding, so each side was uneven. So i needed a spacer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0401.jpg
Trimmed it to fit, tack welded it on. Perfect spacer.
Had to tap the bottom gear box hole as it was a bit rough getting a bolt it, with that all clean i got the mount bolted up.
Then had to struggle like a funker to get the rear mount on, with alot of help from Dan and a prie bar, we got the rear mount in, got the gear linkage set up in two. Wheel cleaned on the inside and refitted. Dropped back on the ground for what seemed the first time in ages...(9th of sept i broke it..)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0402.jpg
Started on the button, took it for a test drive and everything was ok. Let it warm up for awhile.
Looking at it, where i've had to pry bar the box it looks farther forward, so need to giggle it a bit on the rear mount adjustment to get it back a bit more as the shaft has a bit of angle on it, but no where ner what it did have. So all good.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0403.jpg
See the bit more angle...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0410.jpg
looking good benn :thumb:
Cheers Pie.
We (my lot on Mig) went to Janspeed on Sat, Nova made 222BHP and 234torque..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JslUJwxDUQo
Jeff16v
31-10-11, 10:32 PM
Cheers Pie.
We (my lot on Mig) went to Janspeed on Sat, Nova made 222BHP and 234torque..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JslUJwxDUQo
Ph2 Benn?
Any advice from the rr? Fueling etc.,.
No, ph2 not fitted yet. That's the next job.
The Simps
31-10-11, 11:27 PM
Was gonna say, bit down on power! Thats at the fly then I'm assuming mate?
LEWI007
31-10-11, 11:34 PM
Looks good as usual mate, i think you should always keep the polished wheels and GSi front bumper on no matter what though.
Was gonna say, bit down on power! Thats at the fly then I'm assuming mate?
Yep, up on std so i'm happy. They do it at that wheels, we converted it over after.
Lewis, polished wheels are a nightmare to kep nice when its wet. Plus getting them muddy and more is a no no. Bumper was only still on as i've only touched the car to do the shaft/gearbox since i came back from Combe..
were are these new wheels then:witch:
Nova_Tek
01-11-11, 01:19 PM
222BHP... not bad!
were are these new wheels then:witch:
Cant find any that fit in the way i want...
222BHP... not bad!
Isn't too bad... Ph2 will be fun.
Glad she's a runner again pal. You'll be surprised how much fun phase two actually is!!! No need for anymore in a nova imo.
Nick.
Cheers Nick, i'm happy it's all working too.
What wheels were looking at Benn ?
Looks like Nick J has another nova
Decent recent on the rollers
What wheels were looking at Benn ?
Looks like Nick J has another nova
I did what these.. Polished lips with a painted center.. But the fitment is all wrong,
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqV,!jEE5!jh9vbUBOQTMj!G+w~~0_12.JPG
I noticed Nicks new buy too
Decent recent on the rollers
lol wha?
Black centres and polished lips always looks a bit halfords spec to me tbh, no matter what the wheels are, just reminds me of well, their entire display racking of cheap fake splits with 1/2" of polished rim on them!
Yeah, they wouldn't have been black. But at et35 there isn't much chance...
you need some old revolutions on there with the polished lop, 15inch imo
SimonTW
02-11-11, 12:38 PM
Epic car Benn! Love that smoothed bay and coded gearbox! :thumb:
The Simps
02-11-11, 03:34 PM
If you really want to run dished rims benn I think you need to start thinking arch flaring or widening urs ala dick raper style.
SimonTW
02-11-11, 04:46 PM
What size and offset are the wheels that are on there at the moment?
Nova_Tek
02-11-11, 04:58 PM
I did what these.. Polished lips with a painted center.. But the fitment is all wrong,
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqV,!jEE5!jh9vbUBOQTMj!G+w~~0_12.JPG
I came across these too Benn but quickly left the site when I saw the fitments lol
you need some old revolutions on there with the polished lop, 15inch imo
15" wont fit over my brakes i think... But pic me.
Epic car Benn! Love that smoothed bay and coded gearbox! :thumb:
Thank you very much, very nice to hear.
If you really want to run dished rims benn I think you need to start thinking arch flaring or widening urs ala dick raper style.
I want dish, but not tomuch, i HATE flared straight arches, looks utter sh*te. Widening is ok tho, but not something i really wanna do at the mo..
What size and offset are the wheels that are on there at the moment?
15 or 16(want 16 really) et49-45, 5x110 is want i want, means they tuck in the arch real nice and i can stay low as poss.
I came across these too Benn but quickly left the site when I saw the fitments lol
Yeah same, till i saw their Ebay page...
Nova_Tek
02-11-11, 07:42 PM
They have an ebay page?
davidfox280585
10-11-11, 11:14 PM
awesome as usual benn
They have an ebay page?
There are loads of them on Ebay. Found some nicer wheels.. got everything sorted. Now i'm told they cant get them.
awesome as usual benn
Cheers dude.
There are loads of them on Ebay. Found some nicer wheels.. got everything sorted. Now i'm told they cant get them.
Cheers dude.
Are these the ones we discussed previously?........ I really hope not :(
Nick.
Yeah so i'm told i cant get them any more.
SimonTW
12-11-11, 09:39 AM
What where you hoping to get?
SimonTW
12-11-11, 12:53 PM
Ah I do love BBS. Why couldn't you get them?
Jeff16v
12-11-11, 12:54 PM
BBS rc? Always loved them!
Ah I do love BBS. Why couldn't you get them?
I've been told they arn't stocking them any more.. So gonna try looking in other places..
BBS rc? Always loved them!
Nope... lol
Jeff16v
12-11-11, 01:21 PM
Nope... lol
Anything else is gay anyway, lol
No, after looking the rc isn't that pretter wheel. The one i wanted where way better.
Jeff16v
12-11-11, 01:28 PM
Lm's?
Beat me to it!
I want rc for the golf
I'd love lms, but cant find them in the right fit. Or even close fix...
Nova_Tek
13-11-11, 07:48 PM
What were they? CH's CO's RK's?
I've searched a hell of a lot of pages. I did find LM replica's 4x100 16" and I think et40 but I can't find any now :(
This will be an on going battle
Southie
13-11-11, 08:02 PM
I like bbs rims but don't think they'd suit yours Benn. I prefer your Cav turbo rims :p
What were they? CH's CO's RK's?
I've searched a hell of a lot of pages. I did find LM replica's 4x100 16" and I think et40 but I can't find any now :(
This will be an on going battle
Not saying yet incase i find some..lol I've found LM's too in et40, but they are £599... and they tell me there wouldn't be enough metal on there to lower the off set.. Or i'd own them.
I like bbs rims but don't think they'd suit yours Benn. I prefer your Cav turbo rims :p
Cav rims just dont look good enough in my eyes....
Nova_Tek
13-11-11, 10:38 PM
Not saying yet incase i find some..lol I've found LM's too in et40, but they are £599... and they tell me there wouldn't be enough metal on there to lower the off set.. Or i'd own them.
Cav rims just dont look good enough in my eyes....
RS-GT? RE?
I'd love me some Fikse 10's ... gorgeous rims!
http://www.928sg.com/images/FM-10's-set.jpg
ET 40 is reasonable - would it not be poss to even trim off 2-3 mm? I'm currently running ET42 was fine with unrolled arches. Now with them rolled I could get away with less but to be honest I don't want to go less than 42 as I know the Nova handles fine at this level.
599 aint bad for LM's but I'd want to get them polished as well. I'm getting tired looking for wheels though, and it doesn't get easier!
Et42 isnt that bad no, 45 better. But no one will say for deffo if more can be taken off (which i think is sh*t service) and i dont wanna send £599 with the 'they should be ok too' that i know they would...
SimonTW
14-11-11, 01:55 PM
Not saying yet incase i find some..lol I've found LM's too in et40, but they are £599... and they tell me there wouldn't be enough metal on there to lower the off set.. Or i'd own them.
Cav rims just dont look good enough in my eyes....
Fake LM or Genuine? Any links?
They say their gen but who knows...
So wanted a warm night in front of the tv tonight. So i thought i'd have another go at making a A pillar mounted gauge pod... As it been sat in the speaker hole in the dash for ages and it look crap and very untidy. Now alot of pod look utter wa*k, i didn't want that.
So take a pod bough at PVS (yea had it a while..lol)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0047.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0048.jpg
You can see i've marked it to cut... btw its was a £2(was 5 but i bid him right down) pod from TX motorsport/JBI its proper cheap and sh*te.
Cut it up...( i did start this a while ago, so there isnt as much cut bits as there should be..)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0422.jpg
Trim hole in A pillar trim too for better flushness.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0421.jpg
Trim more off...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0422.jpg
Start to plastic weld the two together..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0423.jpg
Now i'm doing this sat in the front room... Whole house now smells of melting plastic.. oops.
Here is where i've found where i've it to bits to get it fitting right there are large gaps in it.. So weld in bits that have been cut off...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0428.jpg
Weld... Trim... Weld.... Trim...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0427.jpg
Wanted to get the side that will touch the screen right, As the other side i can belt sand down to be right.
You can see bits i've added in where there were gaps.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0426.jpg
A semi done finish...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0425.jpg
This is kinda what it will look like in car...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0429.jpg
Sand it down for best fit then re cover it in the same as it was/headlining is, and it will be 9billion times better.
Nova_Tek
14-11-11, 11:30 PM
I've been thinking about A pillar pods but like you've said, they look disgraceful at the best of times. And being an MK1 there is no plastic trim to be able to do what you're doing.
Looking forward to seeing the outcome to the pod, sure you will do a fab job of it :thumb:
You can see how much i've had to cut off to get it to fix where it does, its not 100% but when wrapped i think it will blend in better and look ok...
LEWI007
15-11-11, 12:09 AM
Ive been busy actually fitting those plastic pillar trims into my MK1 Nova the past few days.
I like your idea of this pod being built into the trim but im a bit worried after looking at the last photo !! lol
Im positive it will come out mint in the end though, Im happy to actually see an update of work being done on this car because everytime i come in this thread its everyone chit chatting about different sets of wheels !!!! :gay:
looking good ben
lol lewis
Ive been busy actually fitting those plastic pillar trims into my MK1 Nova the past few days.
I like your idea of this pod being built into the trim but im a bit worried after looking at the last photo !! lol
Im positive it will come out mint in the end though, Im happy to actually see an update of work being done on this car because everytime i come in this thread its everyone chit chatting about different sets of wheels !!!! :gay:
What the last pic?
I've not taken it apart in 2weeks cause i was getting funked off with it being it bits and unusable, made it seem pointless having a nice car when its just in the garage in bits all the time.
Cheers Pie.
Vlietje
28-12-11, 09:18 PM
One happy Benn.... Delivered him some goodies today!
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee371/vlietje1/Engeland085.jpg
scorge01
28-12-11, 09:29 PM
What he get mate?
hahahaha nooooooo might give away what i have...lol
Cant thank yu enough Jeffrey. Yours been a unbelievable legend though all this. With out your help i'd never have gone anything.
Thank you.
Vlietje
28-12-11, 09:49 PM
What he get mate?
http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2011/01/08/voor-eenzame-kilometervreters-de-autosuck
Vlietje
28-12-11, 09:49 PM
Hahahahahahaaaaa....
Vlietje
28-12-11, 09:50 PM
Can't tell mate, Benn will then come over to the Netherlands and kick my fat ass.... Time will tell... :thumb:
this thread need pics less chit chat f lol
scorge01
28-12-11, 09:55 PM
HahahahahahahahHH nice can I get one :)
gary_126
30-12-11, 04:54 PM
pod looks good, it looks like the back of the gauge protrudes a bit, is there clearance in the pillar for this?
Nope, clearance will need to be made. But i didn't like it, got annoyed and broke it, haven't touched the car since.
what new goodies you got then Benn ? :)
are you doing anything much to the car over the winter ? you usually do lol
You'll see....
I'm collecting bits at the mo. But next is try and sort my rear toe out as it's steering left a bit so makes for a strechy rear end.. Once that's done, get the beam re power coated and new bushes...
~~joycey~~
31-12-11, 07:54 PM
Amazing as always benn :)
lol Cheers dude. Will have a bit more things done in time for the shows...
gregster
31-12-11, 11:03 PM
Epic thread Benn, getting evils off the Mrs having been glued in front of the PC for a couple of hours reading it!
I am new to the Nova thing...but I am stunned at the quality workmanship and attention to detail that goes into these little pocket rockets. I was expecting all stick on cr4p with no taste, but I was sooo sooo wrong.
Builds like this are up there with the best modded cars out their, be them 50's yanks, muscle cars, minitrucks or whatever...
Well done though, a great read, a great car and huge amount of commitment and work on your part.
Look forwards to seeing what happens next...
:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
Epic thread Benn, getting evils off the Mrs having been glued in front of the PC for a couple of hours reading it!
I am new to the Nova thing...but I am stunned at the quality workmanship and attention to detail that goes into these little pocket rockets. I was expecting all stick on cr4p with no taste, but I was sooo sooo wrong.
Builds like this are up there with the best modded cars out their, be them 50's yanks, muscle cars, minitrucks or whatever...
Well done though, a great read, a great car and huge amount of commitment and work on your part.
Look forwards to seeing what happens next...
:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
Thank you very much. A great car for me comes for attachion to very detail
Its the bits you really notice and think wow are th bits i love on cars and builds, so i do the same.. really cause i want things to be perfect.. even if i cant really get things that way.
Ive loads to do at the mo to do.. so there is lots more coming.
Thank you.
boooooo!!!! no pictures! has you really just broken it for spares and got a cosworth or something instead lol
No, got a Saxo in sted... West coast me up....
Been a while since i've worked on the car, so i thought i best get a move on. Got it backed in to the garage as it's time to fix my rear beam/hub set up.
Get up and start stripping.. Coilovers off.. Dirty but clean up easy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0476.jpg
Once hub (now my rear beam was ment to be powder coated, it clearly wasn't as you can see. But it will be as they is one of the jobs to do. Brake lines need repainting as do the calipars) Whole under side needs a bloody good clean too, as it hasn't been done since the summer)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0478.jpg
Other side.. Hand brake cables off, under side needs a good car and the paint needs tidying up in a few places too, as does the pump pipes and wires.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0477.jpg
Caliper off and undoing the hub..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0480.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0481.jpg
Good thing tho, the rear discs are quite clean, so proves they work ok..
Hub off, deffo no powder coating there.. Will be blasted off and power coated gloss black in the next few weeks)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0485.jpg
Now here's where the fun starts.. The reason i'm doing this is my rear toe..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0067.jpg
As you can see is quite badly out, hence why the rear end can feel so light on cornering.. (never noticed this on a tracking report before some how)
So there could be two reasons for it, the beam has had the disc plates fitted badly (i bought the beam already made) or where my hubs are spaced because of the Cav V6 rear hubs (they have a abs ring on the back that you cant easily remove) Now i'm hoping it it's the spacing..
You can see the hub was spaced only a tiny bit with washers, at the time a temp fix that was forgotten about..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0489.jpg
So i took each off and measured them, hoping to see one side would be lower, giving the wheel the bad toe..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0484.jpg
How's what i found...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0491.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0488.jpg
As you can see, they are all a bit different, but at .something of a mm not enough to give the toe figures.. The abs bit is at the bottom and looks like a 3mm spacer will cover it.
So after a bit of working out by Dan (sat in the lounge with tea in hand) it looks like it's the plates on the beam.. Great.
So now i have to work out how to get the beam plates faced to be flat or how to using a 3mm spacer that gives a bit of angle adjustment to correct the toe...
scott.parker
22-01-12, 11:48 AM
Interesting, I'll keep my eyes on this as to how you sort it mate.
I'm hoping if i remove the abs ring lip, then use a skim with a tiny bit of angle on it it will fix..
The Simps
22-01-12, 01:20 PM
Why not get some shims made up to slide in??
The Simps
22-01-12, 01:22 PM
Or you could slice down the backing plate support, knock out then re-weld. If doing this I'd get the beam on a jig with hubs etc on and measure it all properly as you move it.
Rick Draper
22-01-12, 01:28 PM
TBH Benn most disk beam plates I have seen have a hole large enough for that part of the hub to sit in so there is no need for spacers.
nova_stee
22-01-12, 01:42 PM
just bore the plate out to get the ring to fit the washers will be no good in my eyes
TBH Benn most disk beam plates I have seen have a hole large enough for that part of the hub to sit in so there is no need for spacers.
I think v6 hubs have a much bigger abs bit at the back, plus i have not clue if the beam as made with plates or ones cut off...
Why not get some shims made up to slide in??
Shims are something ive thought of and may use with a bit of angle on to correct the toe. Where needed.
just bore the plate out to get the ring to fit the washers will be no good in my eyes
The plates are welded on the in side of the hole too, at the time i gave up trying to bore it. As it was hard..
Dd's plates hauv a larger bore to account for this, I'd just build a fresh beam up with new plates then get it blasted and powder coated
Southie
22-01-12, 06:25 PM
How long have your rear discs been on Benn? Looks to be a fair bit of rust building up, chrome the rear beam lol
Jeff16v
22-01-12, 06:27 PM
I've got David's plates on the powder-coated beam I made up, the centre hole is quite large, as Graeme states, id just make a new beam. I got a powder-coated beam for £50
Dd's plates hauv a larger bore to account for this, I'd just build a fresh beam up with new plates then get it blasted and powder coated
Ah do they? i'd happly do that, but that really is spending when i don't 100% need too, but it might come to it.
How long have your rear discs been on Benn? Looks to be a fair bit of rust building up, chrome the rear beam lol
I 5studded it at the start of 2008, the discs where new then. The pads don't touch the 5mm on the out side edge of the disc, don't on any GM one of this age.. Would love to chrome it, but my guy cant do big stuff.
I've got David's plates on the powder-coated beam I made up, the centre hole is quite large, as Graeme states, id just make a new beam. I got a powder-coated beam for £50
Sell me it then. I can get PC done for a good price so..
Jeff16v
22-01-12, 07:15 PM
Dude you could have had the beam off the black one but the pikeys nicked it before I had the chance to put it indoors. I will keep my eyes open for one.
Broke my belt sander. So i thought i'll take them apart and then get them machined so it's a proper job... Then i got the funking dog.
So one side, loosen off the handbrake spinning adjuster, disc wont come off, beat off with beat blow hammer as bit of the handbrake shoes fall out... One shoe is jammed out some a unknown reason.. Needs to be replaced even tho they arn't that low... Stub axle taps out..
Other side, thinking the worse.. Disc comes off easy, tap the axle.. Don't move. 20mins of beating with a proper hammer, its not lose, but wont come off, maybe a burr of metal is holding it on.. Funking dog with it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0492.jpg
The Simps
30-01-12, 10:57 PM
You need a bigger hammer son...
dont tap it whack it f lol
That not a hammer lol, I use bigger to break toffee
You need a bigger hammer son...
That not a hammer lol, I use bigger to break toffee
Because the studs are close you cant get a bigger hammer in there... And it's a 5lb hammer..
dont tap it whack it f lol
Did that, that's what gave the lip on the edge.. lol All a part now..
ABS bit machined off..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/hubmaching2.jpg
Now it doesn't stick though the back..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/hubmaching4.jpg
But still sits in the back plate, so it centers and holds the hub in the right place..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/hubmaching1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/hubmaching3.jpg
All back together now, off to get the tracking check tomorrow after work and hope it's ok. If not then the real funking about starts...
And the tiny amount of room i have...lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Space.jpg
peester
03-02-12, 07:56 PM
looks cosey.
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 08:08 PM
You're lucky that you've got room!
looks cosey.
With was the heater on..lol
plenty of room dude lol
Enough is the right word.
You're lucky that you've got room!
True, i couldn't go back to no garage...
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 08:55 PM
I've got a garage but no room :(
All your stuff in it? Get sorting.
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 08:59 PM
all my stuff and more
Jeff16v
03-02-12, 09:38 PM
I'd love a garage but hopefully get a bit more room than you've got Benn, don't you get the hump and kicks bits over?
Gotta get under the car tomorrow in the street to fix the pump problem, Boo hoo!
Was it the ring but causing the dodgy toe?
all my stuff and more
Ah, build shelfing and that.
I'd love a garage but hopefully get a bit more room than you've got Benn, don't you get the hump and kicks bits over?
Gotta get under the car tomorrow in the street to fix the pump problem, Boo hoo!
Was it the ring but causing the dodgy toe?
Its great having a garage, but as my is inbuilt it's tiny. I do get very stressed at time yes. And no, i'm hoping it was the spacing... If not it's the beam.
Took the car out the garage yesterday, even tho there was an inch of salt on the road.. :eek: Popped down to Protyre (thank you to Paul and Jim and Euan)
New print out...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff22.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff29.jpg
One from before to compare..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0067.jpg
So it's better and now in the "acceptable" area But i'd like it better than that. So with a bit of maths (trig) i can work out the size of the skim to make to correct the toe and get the camber the same on both sides...
So car back in the garage, get the back jacked up again and start stripping...
In the week i popped in to the bodyshop and made a brake line loop to stop fluid loss.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff21.jpg
Getting it fitted, (can see bits that need a repaint under there too)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff23.jpg
Then start unbolting everything again...
Everything off, beam out, again see more bits that need painting :grr:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff26.jpg
Stripped everything off the beam..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff25.jpg
Can re-furb my calipers now, paint my break lines too.
Beam out side so i could beat the ARB out,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff27.jpg
Only one bit stuck.. I cant get the bushes out to replace..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/beamoff28.jpg
So i've cut the outer rubber down, so it can all be powder coated and then i'll try and get the bushes out again..
burn them out before it's powder coated if they're being an ****.
looking good dude :)
i aint got much room in my garage as the cav aint a small car lol
NOV4_SPORT
05-02-12, 04:00 PM
Good bit of progress benn keep at it buddy.
iain
Are these mods just to tackle the toe? The camber looks quite different side to side also?
Also why are the figures for the rear RH wheel different if you haven't touched it at all?
With the bushes if you can't pull them out due to tightness, put the drill through it a few times or heat them up a bit.
Benn if they are original bushes it might be worth trying new ones before you do an machining, it could be just down to the fact the old ones are slightly worn.
burn them out before it's powder coated if they're being an ****.
I did think about it..lol I'll hack them out or drill as said below..
looking good dude :)
i aint got much room in my garage as the cav aint a small car lol
Cheers dude, a Cav wouldn't fit in mine as its to thin..
Good bit of progress benn keep at it buddy.
iain
Cheers dude, will look better when powder coat and nice.
Are these mods just to tackle the toe? The camber looks quite different side to side also?
Also why are the figures for the rear RH wheel different if you haven't touched it at all?
With the bushes if you can't pull them out due to tightness, put the drill through it a few times or heat them up a bit.
Yes, mainly to fix the toe, and to give both sides equal and even camber, as a bit of camber is ok. I'm gonna say it's all done to the way the beam was made and welded, it's the only thing it can be.
Never though of drilling them, i'll try that tomoz.
Benn if they are original bushes it might be worth trying new ones before you do an machining, it could be just down to the fact the old ones are slightly worn.
I did talk that thru with my mate, but we didnt think it could be. Yes the are std but they dont look like they've wore to bad..
jafanan
06-02-12, 12:02 PM
nothing worse than that feeling knowing youve more painting to do....
looking forward to see'in this in the flesh at billing hopefully
scott.parker
06-02-12, 08:58 PM
Nice, tho i dont get all the camber.toe figures stuff, im just not cleaver enough! lol
As for the bushes, best way i found is cut all the way round with a hack saw down to the mettle bush on both sides then just hammer them out!
nothing worse than that feeling knowing youve more painting to do....
looking forward to see'in this in the flesh at billing hopefully
I'm not to fussed, been doing some wiring bushes and found some scabbing that i did know was hiding around the sunroof drain. So i'm gonna set about cleaning that all up, then i can seal and repaint everything.
I'll be at Billing with Migclub so make sure you come over and find me.
Nice, tho i dont get all the camber.toe figures stuff, im just not cleaver enough! lol
As for the bushes, best way i found is cut all the way round with a hack saw down to the mettle bush on both sides then just hammer them out!
I dont, but am learning. Camber is easy really. Toe is abit more tricky.
Toe is abit more tricky.
In terms of it's effects or how it's measured/what it is?
Well, yeah i guess it's not really. As it's the same as setting camber up just a different angle.
I'm not sure what just happened so I'll just assume you worked it out for yourself somewhere in that and posted something along those lines lol
I thought about it again, camber and toe are the same things, just at different angels. So both are easy to correct with a bit of measuring and some trigonometry to work out what is needed. That is the hard part.. As i dont remember being tough it at school..lol
Pistol Pete
07-02-12, 07:10 AM
Benn....can i ask a massive favour. Whilst you have your beam stripped, can you measure the length of the springs on your rear shocks please.
Heres why...http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?182565-Coilover-issues..
Replied to your thread Pete.
Count Vaux Alot
07-02-12, 08:58 AM
Good work dude!
I thought about it again, camber and toe are the same things, just at different angels. So both are easy to correct with a bit of measuring and some trigonometry to work out what is needed. That is the hard part.. As i dont remember being tough it at school..lol
the reason it was easier in those far off days is simple.... they were examples.... you are trying to actually calculate something in the real world.
Good work dude!
Cheers dude,
the reason it was easier in those far off days is simple.... they were examples.... you are trying to actually calculate something in the real world.
True and that means nothing adds up right..lol
blue_peg_16v
07-02-12, 10:18 PM
benn saw earlier in the thread you said you didnt think 15in wheels would fit over your brakes, if your still running the willwood 4 pots with 280mm disks 15s do fit there tight but fit i sling a pair on the front of mine when i go on the strip, well used to before some robbing b nicked them
Oh right, cheers for the tip.
blue_peg_16v
07-02-12, 10:33 PM
think it will depend on wheel design though, ive had 3 sets of 17s on the saloon 2 needed spacers and the otheres were fine luckily the softstars on the van cleared with no spacers, the 15s i had were just a set of dare 5 spokes but cleared fine needed 5mm spacers though
Yeah its the shape of the spokes.
DansCorsaXE
13-03-12, 11:11 PM
Just read the whole thread,took me about 4 hours in total. Really enjoyed it and have learnt alot from it.
Attention to detail is unreal and everything is done 100% perfect,truly good work Ben,deserve alot of credit. :thumb::thumb:
love this car very much
Thank you very much,
Just read the whole thread,took me about 4 hours in total. Really enjoyed it and have learnt alot from it.
Attention to detail is unreal and everything is done 100% perfect,truly good work Ben,deserve alot of credit. :thumb::thumb:
Sorry for the delay, Glad you've enjoyed the read. Thank you very much, i try to do everything as best as i can. It's not 100% perfect, hence me doing stuff over..lol
Hhhmm been a while since i updated, that cause i've been working away..
So rear beam... With it off and at the powder coaters i stripped the hubs down..
Backing plates cleaned and painted,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/rearbrakes1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/rearbrakes2.jpg
Beam back.. Looks great, had to drill out the old bushes (hence the rusty dust in some pics)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff28.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff8.jpg
Time to build the hubs and braking bits up.. Garage isn't the nicest place too sit. So made a work bench and sat in front of the tv to do it..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff29.jpg
Not a fun job when you stripped it a month before and didn't take any pics to help you remember...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff3.jpg
Discs grease masked and painted. (painted the edge of the disc as i hate it when they are all rusty)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMAG0251.jpg
Grease it,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMAG0250.jpg
Then paint it,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMAG0249.jpg
Then wipe paint off and the braking surface is clean...
So then start rebuilding beam, Remember my bad caster? Using some tig (soh-cah-toa) i worked out what was needed to fix it and had some shim made to correct. (left 1.4mm and right 2.9mm cut on a lathe)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/shims1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/shims2.jpg
Hubs on, disc on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff15.jpg
Calipar on,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff24.jpg
Bolts painted ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff18.jpg
ARB painted Arden blue.. ;) and fitted with new bolts..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff23.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff21.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Beamstuff19.jpg
Coilovers stripped and cleaned ready to refit.
All new brake lines made.. Altho that don't look that great, they are all bent with a bender to be right and night, all have been painted too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines3.jpg
Hose clips..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines9.jpg
*** More updates one page back***
The Goodrich braided hoses are sh*te too. So i've wire wheeled them all clean and repainted them too.. So they look a bit better..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Brakelines8.jpg
Will refit tomoz,
And that's everything up to speed.
Edit, needs an oil change so...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/filter2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/filter1.jpg
brainsnova
23-03-12, 11:14 PM
Excellent work and update just as I expected lol
Cheers dude, been a long dirty road to get here..lol
BRoadGhost
24-03-12, 10:56 PM
Benn! Stop spending time painting oil filters & start fabricating some independent rear suspension :D
Again, top work Benn.
Cheers dude.
Benn! Stop spending time painting oil filters & start fabricating some independent rear suspension :D
If i had your fab skills i would dude. I'd love to have turreted the back end too, but im not sure my welding is strong enough for the job..
Beam has come up well!
Rest of the lines are now on too, looks nice. Pics later..
looking good ben :thumb:
Cheers dude. One side of toe is sorter, the other still looks a bit out.
NOV4_SPORT
26-03-12, 08:19 AM
Looking good benn
Vlietje
26-03-12, 08:29 AM
You're not chroming the Goodridges?! Tssssss.....
Looking good benn
Not as tidy as i'd have liked, but much better.
You're not chroming the Goodridges?! Tssssss.....
Nah their crap really.
SimonTW
26-03-12, 08:52 AM
Should have just gone for HEL or the Goodridge ones with stainless ends. I like the colour coded oil filter! Very neat touch!
BRoadGhost
26-03-12, 05:25 PM
How strong of a MIG welder have you got access to Ben? Anything 130 upwards would be fine providing you don't go beyond 2MM steel.
You won't gain confidence without going for it; If your main concern is strength, I think it'll be more bomb-proof than you imagine, even with average messy looking welds. Remember it's the shape & structure of the metal going in that'll dictate the durability. Go get some 2MM sheet steel, a load of 1MM cutting disks for the grinder, some paint, enough gas / wire for the welder and make the push!
[btw if you are going to, make them high and further towards the back of the car than the o.e positioning]
Now's the time to go for such things; before you know it you'll be tubbing arches & extending the beam!
http://img.overpic.net/images/t/m/c/xtmcca27n9905p1jzoc9c.jpg
http://img.overpic.net/images/g/9/t/xg9t448cxh931bw9drt0a.jpg
Should have just gone for HEL or the Goodridge ones with stainless ends. I like the colour coded oil filter! Very neat touch!
I didnt know they made them, had these a while as you can see. A coat of paint has sorted it.
My filter was polished last year, but they are very cheap tin, so wasnt great, this way it wont rust with in tomins.
How strong of a MIG welder have you got access to Ben? Anything 130 upwards would be fine providing you don't go beyond 2MM steel.
You won't gain confidence without going for it; If your main concern is strength, I think it'll be more bomb-proof than you imagine, even with average messy looking welds. Remember it's the shape & structure of the metal going in that'll dictate the durability. Go get some 2MM sheet steel, a load of 1MM cutting disks for the grinder, some paint, enough gas / wire for the welder and make the push!
[btw if you are going to, make them high and further towards the back of the car than the o.e positioning]
Now's the time to go for such things; before you know it you'll be tubbing arches & extending the beam!
http://img.overpic.net/images/g/9/t/xg9t448cxh931bw9drt0a.jpg
I have a Clarks 151te, welds really well. Ive been doing some jobs with it so had a bit of pratice.
Looking at your tubs, im gonna say your your skills are a bit better than mine, but as you say you learn as you do, but there is the safty worry where its something structle.. ive used door skin metal as thats nice and thick.
Count Vaux Alot
27-03-12, 11:14 AM
How strong of a MIG welder have you got access to Ben? Anything 130 upwards would be fine providing you don't go beyond 2MM steel.
You won't gain confidence without going for it; If your main concern is strength, I think it'll be more bomb-proof than you imagine, even with average messy looking welds. Remember it's the shape & structure of the metal going in that'll dictate the durability. Go get some 2MM sheet steel, a load of 1MM cutting disks for the grinder, some paint, enough gas / wire for the welder and make the push!
[btw if you are going to, make them high and further towards the back of the car than the o.e positioning]
Now's the time to go for such things; before you know it you'll be tubbing arches & extending the beam!
http://img.overpic.net/images/t/m/c/xtmcca27n9905p1jzoc9c.jpg
http://img.overpic.net/images/g/9/t/xg9t448cxh931bw9drt0a.jpg
Oh dear i'm spent! this gives me very very bad thoughts given i have some horribly rotten inner arches lol
P.S BRoad do you have any more pics specifically how much of the old you cut out?
BRoadGhost
27-03-12, 01:12 PM
Yeah there's some more somewhere, but I shouldn't be hijacking another member's thread. I left some on the O/S just because of how deep in it goes with the o.e filler location.
Aside from that everything went.
matthew172
27-03-12, 01:20 PM
Yeah there's some more somewhere, but I shouldn't be hijacking another member's thread. I left some on the O/S just because of how deep in it goes with the o.e filler location.
Aside from that everything went.
have you got a build thread anywhere?
Southie
27-03-12, 01:44 PM
As ever nice work Benn, nice little touches are what make your motor stand out :cool:
Count Vaux Alot
27-03-12, 02:07 PM
Yeah there's some more somewhere, but I shouldn't be hijacking another member's thread. I left some on the O/S just because of how deep in it goes with the o.e filler location.
Aside from that everything went.
Ok cool i'll pm you
PS sorry for the hijack Benn :)
As ever nice work Benn, nice little touches are what make your motor stand out :cool:
Cheers dude, all in the line of making it better...
Ok cool i'll pm you
PS sorry for the hijack Benn :)
Its cool, Mr ghost needs a build thread, as he has an amazing car! And his last build thread stopped quite a few years ago...
Jeff16v
28-03-12, 07:39 PM
Love the filter Benn, any subtle changes this year?
peester
28-03-12, 07:51 PM
awesome work, all in that teeney garage, heroic stuff.
Love the filter Benn, any subtle changes this year?
Cheers jeff, yeah i have one or two... ;)
awesome work, all in that teeney garage, heroic stuff.
Cheers Dave, ive learnt to squeeze in tight to sit/lay where i need to lol yours is still looking great too.
Count Vaux Alot
29-03-12, 10:59 AM
Top draw as always dude :)
Cheers James, more when i get home.
Got the hub off, measured everything and worked out the angles again. Still says 2.9. So put everything back together and will wait till i get a tracking report before worrying any more. Adjusted the handbrake as well so it's just touching as it should be set. Did a lil touching up too.. As bit had got marked when fitting, so took finished pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0684.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0685.jpg
Did the brake lines in blue to match the under side of the car (lines on the floor plan are black so they don't look like I've painted over them while doing the floor)
Saw this some where, thought what a great idea. So used some black silicone and did it. Looks tidier i find.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/IMG_0688.jpg
Jeff16v
04-04-12, 07:59 PM
Awesome Benn, so lovely underneath. Although the fuel hose needs treating, it's got dust on it. :)
Overspray on wheels.
I used the rubber bits from a metal P clip for those lugs, worked well.
Awesome Benn, so lovely underneath. Although the fuel hose needs treating, it's got dust on it. :)
It's getting there. That is the hose i think i'll replace. Will look much tidier. Thank you too :)
Overspray on wheels.
I used the rubber bits from a metal P clip for those lugs, worked well.
Funny that as there where well away from the car when working on it.. But they are very dirty anyway.
looking good ben :thumb:
real credit to you buddy
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