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MARTIN KELSON
12-08-12, 08:04 PM
Like the internal shifter.
Never really seen one in 'action' before.
Looks easier changes than my std one on quickshift.
Maybe another job to do! :)
needs tb's. :)
He's far too much of a tart to do that.
Video looks good! awesome quality/angle, Only thing I'd try and do if I could is shift the cam up a bit, but I'm guessing that's just where it sits on the mount?
Camera is much much better there!
MK999 buy me TBs and I'll fit them! Unfortunately Nova spending is being cut somewhat for other stuff now.
I'm well chuffed with the camera too, much higher and the rear view mirror ruins most of the forward view so this is the best place for it IMO. You don't lose anything other than the bit under the wiper from the seats anyway
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dbilas-throttle-bodies-c20xe-vauxhall-nova-corsa-astra-calibra-cavalier-/261081703753?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cc9aea549
MK999 buy me TBs and I'll fit them! Unfortunately Nova spending is being cut somewhat for other stuff now.
What if I could get Jenveys at knockdown prices? :p
Then save your student loan and get some lol
Told you he was too much of a tart :p
Iain needs something... Johnny A has a awesome kit for sale at the mo...
Sounds like it's worth setting up some sort of charity/donation site so people can chip in for TBs for me lol
auction TJ off as a slave?
turbojolt
13-08-12, 07:32 PM
auction TJ off as a slave?
yer sell the black man thats orignal.
ian (with 2 i's) you car is fast enough!! just enjoy it, no point plowing more money into it if your going to be a grown up and buy a house lol
or rent the spare room and get tb's!
or rent TJ's ar5e and get tb's!
Edited for truth!
ian (with 2 i's) you car is fast enough!! just enjoy it, no point plowing more money into it if your going to be a grown up and buy a house lol
He's bough the house, so can spend some cash on tbs.
Helen of Troy
13-08-12, 09:16 PM
really cool car there pal
BRoadGhost
13-08-12, 09:47 PM
I would be most unhappy with any play in or around the bearing; is it the drive flange that's not tight enough interference or the knuckle's had too much taken off it you think?
The replacement bearing of the same make is a snug fit in the knuckle, and the hub in the bearing also. I think the play is in the bearing itself, I can wiggle it and see the outer metal stay still and and the rubber cover move.
I have a spare knuckle and a new bearing that feels good, so I could have it machined up to suit and swap the hub over into it.
Blyton Park full day open pit with Nova Ian off here on Wednesday, feels strange but there's not much prep to do for it!
Taking my GoPro so should hopefully capture some interesting footage to report back with.
Small bit of prep done, I've fitted some EBC Yellowstuff brakepads to replace the Ferodo DS2500s, looking forward to reporting back on how these hold up.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/676.JPG
Also these came up for sale, Nova fitment 5mm spacers, so off come my universal 6mm spacers and spigot rings. They didn't vibrate like this really, but the amount my wheels go on and off it'll be nice to have one piece there only. Rears required a small chamfer to clear the radius on the brake drum, like the V6 spigots did.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/677.JPG
All fitted up:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/678.JPG
BRoadGhost
20-08-12, 09:09 PM
You could have bought my black diamond & redstuff V6 setup for the cost of those 16V pads.
They were only £60, rest of the setup seems to work OK so don't mind buying new pads for it.
Few pics from Blyton yesterday with Ian. Nothing broke and car performed as good as ever so good times.
Struggled to get the brakepads bedded in and feeling strong in the morning, they're feeling a little better now but not perfect.
Went out with Ian in his with some 300lb rear springs and it felt a lot more balanced so may be tweaking the rear spring rates again too.
My semi slicks are knackered now so going to get some better tyres for the next outing.
Also feel the car needs a lot more power for the straights, so pondering the cheapest way to give it a bit of a kick.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/679.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/680.JPG
Usual picture of Nova on black wheels lol
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/681.JPG
Got some footage using my GoPro too, uploaded in 720 just to please Benn, here's one of me chucking it about the track trying to scare the passenger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI2AQD5A_6s&feature=youtu.be
And one of me running out of any talent I had in the first place lollol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6TycYBcM_0&list=UUmdUHHYfoHFrHezXyPnSp3w&index=2&feature=plcp
peester
23-08-12, 07:17 PM
christ it look aggresive and purposeful on the matt cesaros with the semi slicks. I like the way the car has evolved further gradually since you finished it as a project, the more track days you do..
Reminds me a bit of martin hill's old nova when it was white- one of my faves.
Faster in a straight line.. cams, some headwork? NOS? buy some itb's off tweeks on a buy now pay later. lol.
nova_stee
23-08-12, 07:25 PM
Bang a let it for some more go
turbojolt
23-08-12, 07:46 PM
epic save lol, that new camera setup your running is top notch fella
Yeah loving the new camera too, interesting to watch what I do with the wheel afterwards.
I did ponder a LET but would it really be that cheap to get more power? Engine, loom/ECU, ancillaries, rebuild, FMIC, F28...
Some headwork, cams and inlet changes would be nice, but ITBs seem expensive too and I dunno if I dunno what kind of MPG some twin 48s would give? lol
Good save brother, for a minute I though "oh noes, here comes the armco" lol
MARTIN KELSON
23-08-12, 08:02 PM
Throttle bodies over the 48's. I ve had both & definetly worth the wait for the ITB's
They come up 2nd hand so keep looking for a nice set of Jenvey's
Thats a narrow track, good save!
Just get an interest free credit card & get em on order :)
turbojolt
23-08-12, 08:02 PM
get them autosprint 288 cams, that way i can know what they perform like with out me forking out :p
chimp007_uk
23-08-12, 09:18 PM
get them autosprint 288 cams, that way i can know what they perform like with out me forking out :p
Do they require piston work for clearance? And do they use hydraulic lifters?
turbojolt
23-08-12, 09:32 PM
no and yes
LET on standard management is un-usable on track ime
Cheapst way of more power on straights is nos
About time on the video! Is much better being there too. 2nd vid, 0:17 man you take that S at a hell of a speed and seem to really hold it well thru it. What happened there? Brakes lock up? Or where you still slowing when you started to turn in?
I was doing some late braking to test out the new pads, was just way too late and hard on the brakes so probably locked up yeah. Cool LET is a no-no then, think some injection friendly cams and maybe a new head to try and stop it burning oil could be good.
SimonTW
24-08-12, 09:03 AM
Great save on the second video!
LET on st management is fine for track. A lot cheaper than TBs but TBs are better for track i think.
LET on st management is fine for track. A lot cheaper than TBs but TBs are better for track i think.
I agree. Mine is great on track, but TB'd cars take off cause of the low down toqure curve. Where Lets need to build up more..
markmcgivern
27-08-12, 09:09 AM
love the thread!keep up the great work. Where did you get or where can you get carbon door cards from and the rears?
Top stuff Iain, nice save in the vid lol
Camera position looks well!
If you want more power then why bother with some puff injection cams and single figure bhp headwork? get some decent cams and save for tb's, or forget all that and build a LET up.
Carbon doorcards were second hand but bought from Performance Trim when they were still going, not sure where you can get some now sorry.
Adam that's the ultimate goal really, but I don't have a huge amount to spend on the car at the moment. Another problem is I'm insured up to 165bhp and it's already mega expensive insurance. I've sorted myself out some mild cams now anyway. :)
peester
27-08-12, 08:10 PM
i think cmc composites chris does carbon doorcards.
Just found a couple of pics on the Javelin Trackdays facebook page, looks quite nicely sat in the corners/under braking now?
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/683.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/684.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/682.JPG
Could do with going a bit lower, specially the back end
Few pics of recent work and improvements.
I tried out an SFI box to replace the powercap. Looked nice and OE, kinda lol
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/685.JPG
Wouldn't fit past the rollcage bar anyway:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/686.JPG
It seemed to smooth out the rev range and felt quite torquey in the mid range however lacked the initial throttle response I like, so I removed it.
My exhaust kept working loose at the manifold, due to lack of flexi in the system (Why on earth didn't Ashley make it with a flexi?)
You can see here how thin the metal has worn, and the groove inside where the manifold has been eating into it:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/687.JPG
Chop chop:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/688.JPG
Fitted:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/689.JPG
While I was under there I was a bit shocked at the state of my chassis leg, oops!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/690.JPG
Now some improvements, purchased a pair of reground Kent AST 1612 camshafts:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/691.JPG
Fitted up into the head:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/692.JPG
Slight problem to overcome, the cams are later DISpac cams, you can tell as there's a thread in them:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/693.JPG
This meant the dizzy sat like this as the central hole is a lot shallower:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/694.JPG
Chopped 5-6mm off the end of the dizzy and it bolted up fine:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/695.JPG
Impressed with the feel of them. It runs quite lumpy on idle now, feels like it pulls strongly right up to the limiter now. In fact I'm after a way of disabling or upping the rev limiter while retaining the standard (or chipped/modified) ECU!
nova_stee
04-09-12, 06:29 PM
The cheap ebay chips remove the rev limiter and they run the same
turbojolt
04-09-12, 06:30 PM
nice work mate, you dont hang about do you them cams would have sat in my garage for months before fitting them lol
The cheap ebay chips remove the rev limiter and they run the same
Was thinking about those actually, if I can be 100% sure they don't mess with any fueling then that sounds like the cheapest way. Happy to get an aftermarket OMEX or something to manage the rev limiter.
Had them about a week and couldn't resist fitting them Turby, pretty happy with them although I was a bit worried they'd be coming out again when I noticed they're not early dizzy ones!
turbojolt
04-09-12, 06:35 PM
be interesting to get the nova on the same rolling road that you was on before and see the difference ;)
In the meantime, I'm building up my scene points hahaha lol Noticed my tow eye was barely reachable, perhaps my front bumper is sitting a bit far forward.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/696.JPG
Don't worry it neatly packs away like this so isn't on show:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/697.JPG
turbojolt
04-09-12, 07:11 PM
when did you do the wing mirrors aswell? never noticed them before
The sfi box over power cap is a long running testing thing. Chassis legs take a beating if you jack the car up alot, i use a bit of wood covered in a bit of jumper after making mine better.
Good work wit the cams.
Get it on the rollers to make sure the cams are doing what they should be and also take the SFi for a 'like for like' comparison with the power cap.
When are you replacing my spare cam shaft seals you thief? and no I don't want cheap motorfactor ones I want Elring :p
Wing mirrors have been black for ages.
Yeah I jack the car up but usually a little further forward than that where it meets the other leg piece. Not sure how thats happened but oh well.
Rollers would be nice, I'll take it to the next club day. SFI box is a pain to refit though as I need to remove oil cooler, rollcage bar, etc, etc!
This is without a doubt my favourite WIP, I like how you do everything yourself, and all documented (I've saved a few pics for my own reference!) So are the cams a direct swop for a standard XE, bar the drive slot? Worth doing then? Are they expensive?
Glad the pics are of use Mazz, figured things like the dizzy chopping would be helpful to people. Those cams were reground using standard XE later model dispac ones, requiring the dizzy modification. I imagine they'd regrind earlier ones if you gave them some tho and they'd fit the dizzy fine.
I got them second hand, not sure how much Kent charge for the regrinding, if I were to get some done Autosprint look quite reasonably priced, or the QED Q42H's look nice too. According to Kent's site they're mild injection cams so should work fine with the standard ECU.
Southie
05-09-12, 01:01 PM
I think TJ is referring to the little bits of gold you've added to the mirrors.
Love the track action, nice save on the 2nd video ;)
I think TJ is referring to the little bits of gold you've added to the mirrors.
That's satin catching a sunset :p
Southie
05-09-12, 01:07 PM
That's satin catching a sunset :p
Put your tongue away you filthy animal lol
You say that like you know where it's been.
Southie
05-09-12, 01:11 PM
By that comment I suspect i'm right then :wisewood:
NOV4_SPORT
05-09-12, 01:25 PM
Looking really good mate, really like the action shots out on the track mate :cool:
Iain
nice work mate, you dont hang about do you them cams would have sat in someone elses garage for months before fitting them lol
corrected that for you sarah lol
corrected that for you sarah lol
Is that his weekend name?
turbojolt
10-09-12, 03:07 PM
Is that his weekend name?
dont you start aswell lol
dont you start aswell lol
Sorry Sarah :(
I saw this on CS and thought you might be interested in them Iain for a bit more power?
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=643037
scott.parker
19-09-12, 06:16 AM
But how do you add more power if the ecu is the same? Surely it needs to be re mapped, or replaced?
But how do you add more power if the ecu is the same? Surely it needs to be re mapped, or replaced?
You run it lean as **** and wait for all the valves to melt? lol
Hey Mieran, I've looked at stuff like that before when a Dbilas setup came up for sale for similar money. Not sure if it's a worthwhile route going down, the reviews of the Dbilas setup seemed quite mixed.
Scott yeah I guess it's down to the better design/airflow/throttle response, and probably an ECU map to suit the changes?
Would definitely want an AFR gauge with that on though!
I'm currently chasing seeking idle, cutting out, misfiring and aftermarket revlimiter not working. :(
chimp007_uk
19-09-12, 07:31 PM
You run it lean as **** and wait for all the valves to melt? lol
Howd you come to that conclusion!? You have a standard airflow meter so if it flows more air, it alters the fuelling. I set up an fpr on my xe when it was running injection, on a rolling road. Went from 160hp at 14:1, to 164 at 12.1:1.
Easy to see how a dblias set-ups work!
ECU is obviously mapped on a standard inlet blah blah.
If the ecu could simply fuel according and adjust to the amount of air flowing through the afm, and then give the correct output for any circumstances then you would only ever need a single ecu, to run any engine... lol
It cant learn that way.
It see's lets say "20" incoming air, looks at coolant temp etc, and then injects say "50" fuel because thats what programmed on its map.
That would be good for the engine the ecu was designed with, but now the engine has a completely different inlet tract and flow characteristics it will not need that "50" fuel anymore.
Thats trying to put it a simple way anyhow lol
I remember a guy on mig put dbilas bodies on his c16xe (standard ecu), it sounded nice, made more peak power(at higher peak rpm) but it was actually slower on track and down 1/4mile, by a long way too.
chimp007-14:1 afr isnt best for peak power, hence why you saw a change...
I took the Nova out for 15 minutes earlier today to warm up the oil ready for an oil change, ended with me at the side of the road and getting a tow back. Started running on three cylinders and a loud clattering noise from the top end.
Whipped the rocker cover off to find this, to the left and right of the cam cap are #2 exhaust cylinders. Slight problem here!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/698.JPG
Pulled the exhaust off and my mate said "watch this" and proceeded to do this with his fingers through the exhaust port lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dePMW-PWH2Y&feature=youtu.be
Engine stripped down again to assess the problem/damage
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/699.JPG
Come out little valve we won't hurt you lol
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/700.JPG
For some unknown reason it's snapped one of the valve springs (new when built 12k ago). Luckily I didn't run it for too long after it happened, although the valve has been touching the piston as it moved when I cranked it by hand when it was timed up.
Will have the head off in a couple of weeks when I have time and crack on with fixing it, but it's a good opportunity to do the stem seals when I'm there as it's burning oil anyway.
invest in some new gm springs.
They were a set of brand new GM springs when I built it. :(
Hmm bought May 2010 via a mate who could get trade prices, think I've shot myself in the foot there.
nova_stee
22-09-12, 09:07 PM
buy double valve springs the bigger cams are probably botteming out the spring
turbojolt
22-09-12, 09:51 PM
sorry to see this mate, could be worse I'm sure this isn't going to tax your skills :)
you think its pure coincidence this happening after the lumpy cam going in?
scott.parker
23-09-12, 09:13 AM
Not good dude, hope there's no other unseen damage, sometimes bend valves an jam the guides in?
Oh bugger, uprated ones the way forward.
buy double valve springs the bigger cams are probably botteming out the spring
You reckon? If the springs were bottoming out I'd expect loud clattering or some sort of mechanical locking as the camshaft wouldn't be able to turn properly?
sorry to see this mate, could be worse I'm sure this isn't going to tax your skills :)
you think its pure coincidence this happening after the lumpy cam going in?
Everything has gone wrong since trying to mod it tbh lol This week I've had to replace the ICV to resolve the dodgy idle and fit a new coil to fix some hefty misfires. I don't know if the cams have caused this tbh
Oh bugger, uprated ones the way forward.
Undecided whether to fit just one new one, a full new set of standard ones or upgrade them while I've got the chance. Upgrade is probably overkill as I won't be revving beyond 7500 or going much more wild on the cams.
turbojolt
23-09-12, 08:18 PM
ive got a gm head sat in my shed that you can BORROW while the work is happening to your current one, if it needs to get on the road quickly
(mind you it is untested so dont know how helpfull this offer really is :tard:)
NP there's no rush to get it fixed, there's no trackdays booked at the mo!
You reckon? If the springs were bottoming out I'd expect loud clattering or some sort of mechanical locking as the camshaft wouldn't be able to turn properly?
Everything has gone wrong since trying to mod it tbh lol This week I've had to replace the ICV to resolve the dodgy idle and fit a new coil to fix some hefty misfires. I don't know if the cams have caused this tbh
Undecided whether to fit just one new one, a full new set of standard ones or upgrade them while I've got the chance. Upgrade is probably overkill as I won't be revving beyond 7500 or going much more wild on the cams.
If the springs aren't man enough it'll valve bounce, sometimes very audible but if it's only very slight it might just feel like the limiter is coming in. But this will happen dynamically, cams will 'fire' the valve away from theirselves at high speed, you won't necessarily notice it just turning the engine over.
Just one of the bizarre things with cars, upgrade something and it starts failing left right and centre!
Personally I'd avoid standard replacements on a car the age of a Nova, you've no idea if they've been sat on a shelf for 20 years and in what conditions. If they are new 'standard' replacements the quality is probably questionable as third party parts are getting worse and worse recently. I'd talk to whoever your cams are done by and ask what they recommend, going too stiff will actually lose you power as the engine is turning over rock hard springs.
On with fixing my valve spring problem. Head off.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/701.JPG
It all looks carbony but the bores look good, no scoring or damage
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/702.JPG
Head off with problem valve:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/703.JPG
Rest of head looks pretty good, some weird build up on a few of the exhaust valves though?
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/704.JPG
And the cause of it all! Valve is good, spring is in three pieces lol
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/705.JPG
I'd like some advice on the head gasket please... You can see some darker marks between the cylinders on the head, and also on the block. Check the pics above for what I mean. Does this imply there's been some sealing problems around the bores?
I'm using a Cometic 1.9mm MLS headgasket, if the marks are possibly sealing issues I may look to using a standard gasket but I'm a little unsure.
Well I think I've decided to go back to a standard headgasket due to the marks on the head and block, it'll have a slightly higher compression but will hopefully seal better.
On with the head build...
Wonder why it was burning lots of oil lol
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/706.JPG
Stripped and cleaned:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/707.JPG
Cleaned all the deposits off the valves:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/708.JPG
Cleaned (ish lol) the head and relapped the valve seats:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/709.JPG
1x new early valve spring!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/710.JPG
All done!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/711.JPG
Looks like your gasket has been blowing across. Was the block decked and head skimmed when you rebuilt it? And was it ground or fly cut ('diamond' finish like a scene whores wheels lol). MLS will be very sensitive to surface finish.
Yes pretty much what I expected and a thread on MIG confirmed. There's a clean silver line as if it's been sealing around each chamber but it's happened somehow.
Head was skimmed, block was checked and confirmed OK and he wasn't keen on decking it as he thought it'd had it before.
Unsure how it was done, I do suspect it's not perfect enough for MLS so popping a standard gasket on for the rebuild (choice between GM, Payen and Elring!)
turbojolt
04-10-12, 10:21 PM
how do you clean up the head and bits so well?
Valves bench grinder with wire wheel. Head with tfr degreaser, nylon brush, a bit of careful scraping and wire pipe brush down the ports
turbojolt
04-10-12, 10:30 PM
cheers, i will be adding all them bits and bobs to my payday tool wish list
Yes pretty much what I expected and a thread on MIG confirmed. There's a clean silver line as if it's been sealing around each chamber but it's happened somehow.
Head was skimmed, block was checked and confirmed OK and he wasn't keen on decking it as he thought it'd had it before.
Unsure how it was done, I do suspect it's not perfect enough for MLS so popping a standard gasket on for the rebuild (choice between GM, Payen and Elring!)
I would get it skimmed again to make sure it's all good, you'd be surprised how much heads bow after being torqued and run. If you're running high comp I'd be tempted to find somewhere that can fly cut it and use MLS again. If it was fly cut it would have come back with a near mirror finish on it, and you would have noticed it being shiny shiny!
Also if combustion has been skipping across the block, check it very very carefully with a straight edge, clean it up as best you can with isopropyl alchohol and a cloth, NO abrasives. I suspect it will have low spots between the cylinders though.
and while it's all out double check valve seals, brake cleaner in the ports, dry the combustion chambers and look for leaks if you've not got a vacuum tester handy.
I really REALLY don't want to skim the head again. There's already no step on the edge and it's skimming into the casting marks. I remember it having curved machining marks in the head when it was done.
All stem seals have been changed. I'll spray some brake cleaner down there but it should be fine as I spent a while on the valves on the first build.
Mark Sparks
05-10-12, 07:20 PM
Sounds like you might need a new head if its been skimmed that much.
I can understand why you wouldn't want to want to skim it again but it needs to be right or your doing the whole job again in not so very long.
Yeah ideally I would need a new one, I might source one to slowly build up with nice parts.
I've had a straight edge on the head and I'm pretty sure it'll be fine to go back on as-is tbh, I didn't even notice anything that made me think it was blowing between cylinders until I stripped it so screw it lol
Not uprating the valve springs?
Talked to Kent on the phone who recommended the 1612 cams didn't need or want double springs. I could have got their uprated singles but it sounded quite pricey so hoping this was a freak accident
I really REALLY don't want to skim the head again. There's already no step on the edge and it's skimming into the casting marks. I remember it having curved machining marks in the head when it was done.
All stem seals have been changed. I'll spray some brake cleaner down there but it should be fine as I spent a while on the valves on the first build.
The curve on one end of the head it starts eating into from standard height. Looks really bad when you get 10 thou into it :p Looking at the inlet valve height it hasn't had much taken off.
And I meant the valve seals, not the valve stem seals. I.E are your valves actually sealing against the cylinder head or have they moved/bent/been compromised in some way. Much more hassle to sort when the heads back on again.
Well Haynes lists a minimum height and it's under it, so I do think it's had lots taken off.
And yeah I probably should have checked these things, but I don't have a lot of time so I'd rather I have a working car than something that takes me another month to get perfect.
With this in mind I smashed the head on with a standard headgasket:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/712.JPG
Fitted my new vernier pulleys for when I buy the tools to set them up properly:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/713.JPG
Ran it up to temperature and all seems good:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/714.JPG
Job jobbed:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/715.JPG
i've a feeling iaiaiain will actually be using them properly
Pulleys are sexy. Cams in too?
Haha, you really dont mess about do you Lemon, good work and good to see youve got in back together again, been back out in it yet or is it on SORN?
Yeah Kent cams are in with the pulleys, so hopefully I'll get round to setting them up properly and notice an improvement.
Yep been out in it today Spuddy, won't be SORNing it I don't think!
Yep been out in it today Spuddy, won't be SORNing it I don't think!
Good man, mines only on SORN for this month, going to retax next payday, not driven it for a couple of weeks and took it out last weekend and just gave it death everywhere, was contemplating selling up, now im contemplating throttle bodies lol
Same, caned it everywhere today lol Thinking of some sort of spotlights for the dark winter nights on the lanes!
Same, caned it everywhere today lol Thinking of some sort of spotlights for the dark winter nights on the lanes!
Epic, i refer you to my sig :d
Novasport
07-10-12, 10:50 PM
Mmm lamp pod ;)
reecegsi
09-10-12, 11:48 PM
Nice cams:) glad there doing you well nova looks good
Since the cams feel like they want to carry on beyond what the standard ECU would allow, I thought I'd raise the rev limit. Chatted to someone who sells ECU chips who sorted me out a chip for my spare ECU, with some fueling/ignition tweaks and an RPM limit set at 8,000!
Cracked open my spare ECU:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/716.JPG
Chip is removable:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/717.JPG
In goes my aftermarket one:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/718.JPG
OK so 8,000 rpm isn't really a sensible limit with a standard top end! So I have this neat little unit which I have set at 7,500 rpm. Also has a secondary 'launch' limit that I've mounted via the button on the steering wheel which is a lot of fun I must admit!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/719.JPG
Yeah it's an OMEX limiter 'with launch control'. I've got a button on the steering wheel that sets the rev limit at something I can define, e.g. 4,000rpm. So I can sit at the lights at exactly 4,000, dump the clutch, off it goes then release the button to revert back to the normal limit when the wheels have stopped spinning. Want a video? lol
yes, video of lionel at the traffic light grand prix!
Good work, throw a video up
Yeah it's an OMEX limiter 'with launch control'. I've got a button on the steering wheel that sets the rev limit at something I can define, e.g. 4,000rpm. So I can sit at the lights at exactly 4,000, dump the clutch, off it goes then release the button to revert back to the normal limit when the wheels have stopped spinning. Want a video? lol
Thought it was, but wanted to check. Vids NOW!
My mate has the same omex setup on his bike carbed xe corsa, works really well and he uses it all the time at the local dragway!
turbojolt
16-10-12, 06:15 PM
geez get a video up already
Hahaha, it'll have to be the weekend I'm afraid.
Well Nova headlights are rubbish, so I've fitted some spotlights. They're not pretty but they're hopefully functional
Bumper iron modified and boxed up to the bumper:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/721.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/722.JPG
Brackets bolted to the top:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/723.JPG
Front end apart to wire them in, damn me running the wiring through the wing!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/724.JPG
On and fitted:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/725.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/726.JPG
Look interesting, i reckon they would look more at home on a mk1, kinda convincing me more to get the 'Ring - Rally Giant' spotlights that we have on the shelf at work lol
Went out for the launch control video and a little test with it earlier:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/727.JPG
This quickly descended into chavvy louting about, enjoy lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5fwLpJsrco&feature=youtu.be
Then I found out my Nova could do this, so more chavving happened lol lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR0_EOpP7rs&feature=youtu.be
Lmfao, looks like youre are rally giants aswell, how much you give for them Lemonel?
Yeah they're Ring Rallygiants. £30 posted off eBay. Can you get them cheaper?? Interested if so cos I'm kinda tempted by this:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/FourSpots.png
Errr, i 'might' be able to get them cheaper (:p), but we only have one set on the shelf atm, ill look into whether we can get more, as im pretty much decided now that i want them:thumb:
Lol at your vids though, and my mates nova comes up in the 'similar videos' section after the launch test, the white J reg one top left popping flames :d
Looks like the LC works well, and better than my mate had explained it, you keep the button pressed till youve got enough momentum to eliminate the wheelspin, then let go and get the rest of the rev range/power, yes?
turbojolt
17-11-12, 07:40 PM
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo flames
I prefer the third launch lol my kinda driving lol
tahir868
17-11-12, 09:26 PM
Awesome :thumb:
novadave24
18-11-12, 01:05 AM
loving the flames mate sounds good as well ;)
Looks like the LC works well, and better than my mate had explained it, you keep the button pressed till youve got enough momentum to eliminate the wheelspin, then let go and get the rest of the rev range/power, yes?
It's crude but it seems to help, I was just launching with my foot flat to the floor. Suppose it gets you moving with minimal wheelspin so it'll have traction up to a set RPM. All can be done with your right foot but meh lol
Novasport
18-11-12, 10:36 AM
Yeah they're Ring Rallygiants. £30 posted off eBay. Can you get them cheaper?? Interested if so cos I'm kinda tempted by this:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/FourSpots.png
Do it, I did and it used to be mint coming home from work over Drum Hill with the four of them blaring away :)
Super Oscars were awesome until some dozy cow squashed them :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/NovaSport/B395_ABH___Billing-1.jpg
I dont like the lights. Is there a night pic too see how much they light up?
Love the flame vid.
scott.parker
18-11-12, 07:48 PM
See I've always found my nova lights to be quite good, lol my astra an old passat ones are/were rubbish compared to my track car an the mk1.
Dude love the popping flames vid lol lol lol
Not properly tested both on a dark road yet Benn as waiting on my replacement lamp as one arrived damaged.
My mate uploaded another vid, seeing as everyone loves the flames lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LT4GxlQgqI&feature=youtu.be
turbojolt
19-11-12, 06:58 PM
*moist
i know what someones getting for xmas, a fake burbery hat
This might not come as a shock but I've already got one.
turbojolt
19-11-12, 07:05 PM
This might not come as a shock but I've already got one.
a moist man or a hat
Both in one nice package.
Lmfao, @ the second vid, you epic charver lol
Btw how are you running the omex on there with standard injection, or have i missed that bit?
Yes. I chipped the ECU to set the standard limiter at 8000rpm and I have the adjustable Omex cutting in at 7500. Just works off the coil so works with the standard management on there.
scott.parker
19-11-12, 09:27 PM
Lol second vid is even better lol
Lol second vid is even better lol
He has just fitted a 'Bee-R' limiter like all the other charvers lol
Not so much a WIP update, more of a pic whoring, but I've just been sent across some pics from a photoshoot with a mate we did on Saturday. Didn't even let the shocking weather stop him! Proper chuffed with the results!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/001.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/002.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/003.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/004.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/005.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/006.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/007.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/008.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/009.JPG
thegingerwhinger
25-11-12, 09:59 PM
looks awesome mate. well done!!!
He has just fitted a 'Bee-R' limiter like all the other charvers lol
These are actually pretty good TBH. Defo on my shopping list for the 4S.
Picks look cracking Iain!
turbojolt
25-11-12, 10:04 PM
wtf looks like a mag shoot, you really should get on to TV as this car deserves a feature
scott.parker
25-11-12, 10:35 PM
Lookin more like a rally slag now...
M Sutton
26-11-12, 09:03 AM
Lovely pics of a lovely car!
this pic is koooooool :)
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/003.JPG
peester
26-11-12, 10:04 AM
car looks awesome as always, doing a great job of using it properly.. Not for me though, those spot lamps. Think of the aero dynamics! lol.
8valve-craig
26-11-12, 10:30 AM
Pic 5 is ace, As stated above a well constructed E-mail to Dan at TV would see this featured in no time.
Cant help but think it needs rear window trays though.
looks effing sweet
more spot lamps please
edit: like this:
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z436/karlos01/002.jpg
Cheers all, glad you like the pics.
I might send them into Total Vauxhall for the 'Readers Rides' section, wouldn't hope/expect them to feature it as at the end of the day it's just another white XE track car!
it has heko deflectors and an ax wiper. what else will they need?
lol
I really like the evolution of this car, and the fact you've done most of it yourself too
Fire off the pics Lemonel, can't hurt!
Cant help but think it needs rear window trays though.
What do you mean? The metal window surrounds?
Cheers mazz
Ah, ha.
Pictures are fantastic. Where they shot with just to light guns? The lights don't look as bad as i thought they would. Car looks awesome.
The vac line by the tb needs tucking down tho.
Looks awesome Lemon, and ill third TJ's comment of its feature worthy, a hall of fame wouldnt do it justice at all, as the fact thats its had a bare shell rebuild (literally) not just rubbed back and painted but fully repanneled, by you, on your drive in some horrible weathers, and the fact that the end result is a damned good looking and perfectly functioning package, screams feature car imo :thumb:
Send off some piccies and a bit of a 'here's what ive done' write up :d
Looks spot on Iain! Top job :)
Superb, my very good and close friend. Amazing pictures of a great car.
You should be proud of yourself mate. :)
http://iainel.co.uk/images/gallery/NovaPhotoshootNov2012/003.JPG
that looks epic!
zeifer33
28-11-12, 07:44 AM
Lovely pics Iain, you have a really good machine.
Cheers again all!
Benn I think it was done with two yeah.
NOV4_SPORT
28-11-12, 04:40 PM
Wow that looks really good mate ! Spot on
Iain
wtf looks like a mag shoot, you really should get on to tv as this car deserves a feature
doesn't the work have to have been done by reg & al to get a tv feature...? Lol lol
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306077_10152290952530285_267016054_n.jpg
turbojolt
04-12-12, 04:51 PM
less beer will help with the shaking hands carl (with a k)
i was pi$$ing myself laughing mate lol
You've ruined the surprise of the Nova's replacement, damn.
Not updated this in a while, but not done a huge amount. Cracking on with it again though, partly out of boredom and partly to get it ready for 2013 trackdays.
Poor little Nova outside in the snow:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/728.JPG
I fancied changing to a matching rear lights setup, so I've fitted twin reverse lights. Needing a fog, I figured I'd use one of those motorsport rainlights, a cluster of bright red LEDs. Mounted it on the bumper iron like this:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/729.JPG
Not too nasty looking in the bumper IMO:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/730.JPG
All wired up:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/731.JPG
Lowered it a bit more - only a few threads down on the front as I have no suspension travel left, but the rear has come down a fair bit:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/732.JPG
I fancy having some brake ducting to try out on the next trackday to see if I can keep the Mintex 1144 pads that faded at Donington, so have been mocking them up. Choices are...
1) Along tiebar. Problem here is that there's no room for it between the caliper and the strut at full lock, and the wheel will scrub it.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/733.JPG
2) Up the strut and through the crossmember.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/734.JPG
Problem with 2) is that it's very tight to the wheel on full lock, and it gets stuck between the strut, brake line and chassis leg:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/735.JPG
3) Along the bottom of the tiebar, and up to the front splitter. Problem here is that the splitter takes a beating when I reverse up my driveway and it will have very small ground clearance, however there's a nice clean route for the air and no real obstructions:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/736.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/737.JPG
4) Through the steering arm hole, up and to the front. Problem here is that its very tight on the drivers side where the alt is, and there's no way to route it to the front for cold air on the passenger side unless I centralise the radiator:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/738.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/739.JPG
What do people think is the best way to route them?
Oh and this nice surprise I found earlier needs fixing, the crossmember has cracked between the tiebar bracket bolt and the unused hole on the drivers side. Thinking of the best way to fix this...
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/740.JPG
Edit: as 8valve-craig has pointed out elsewhere, my alternator belt has flipped itself inside out again, grr. Not done this for a little while since I reduced the tension, so I think I have alignment issues there
You run your arb on top of the tie bars? Why?
Id run it down on the tie bars and in, more room and looks better and better air flow...
Arches need a clean too.
ARB runs below the tiebars as it's supposed to. Below/inside tiebars definitely looks best for clearance and flow, but it'll just rip it off reversing up the driveway I think!
Whole thing needs a clean, will go on a mad cleaning spree when it warms up a bit.
Sorry wasn't looking at the picture correctly. Surly if its running along the tie bar it will the same hight as wouldn't touch anything...
Not trying to sound a nob head, but is that tubing really going to do anything? Looks awful lol
andy_mk3
26-01-13, 10:29 PM
I agree, I can't see that doing an awful lot to be honest. What discs are they?
Well I wasn't really thinking of it for styling Edd lol What would I need to change to make it effective then?
256x24 vented discs.
what about making something like this?
http://www.myturbodiesel.com/images/misc/brake/duct.jpg
Well I wasn't really thinking of it for styling Edd lol What would I need to change to make it effective then?
256x24 vented discs.
I know your not doing it for styling lol my point is that for how terrible it looks is it really going to make that much difference?
iain, i think you need to get some duct pieces fabricated to mount on your hub. google image searching 'brake cooling ducts' gives lots of food for thought. if you mount a sheet metal nozzle to the duct, you can then move the flexi duct into an area where it won't catch any moving parts.
do you have steering lock stops?
what about making something like this?
http://www.myturbodiesel.com/images/misc/brake/duct.jpg
Thats a perfect idea, just a little wind deflector to channel air thats passing the car anyways whilst at speed, and pointing it towards the braking area, thats got to be as good a solution as your k&n style 'induction' hose :thumb:
What would I need to change to make it effective then?
Fit 4pots and 288s.
Something like these?
150787648135
Although I agree with Adam :)
turbojolt
27-01-13, 01:34 PM
couldnt you drill/cut some holes in the lower left and right corners of the bumper and metal behind it to get more air flowing to them?
the aim is to get a specific blast of air to the brake, not just to fill the arch area with air.
turbojolt
27-01-13, 02:13 PM
no **** sherlock lol
if he done what i was saying it would be easier to run his piping to the desired area, rather then running it through the engine bay, the way I'm picturing it is a feed along the lines of what some people do from there bumper to a induction kit (when you see the red ring around a hole in the bumper), i will try and find a picture now.
I didn't realize we were fcuking about with Formula 1 cars lol
Guess it's just me that thinks a big bit of pipe rammed into a 20 year caliper is going to do fcuk all
turbojolt
27-01-13, 02:25 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/frayz55/scooby/p23.jpg
Turbojolt that is my plan, route the pipework to the bumper or splitter and drill a hole for airflow into it. Maybe get a duct if there's room where I end up choosing.
I don't see how routing cold air from the front of the car to the brakes is stupid or reserved only for F1 cars. The car stops fine with 256mm brakes, I want to use these brake pads as I like how they feel and they struggle when they get hot, so the obvious route is to try and cool them down. Edd you're not being particularly constructive tbh, do you see all trackday enthusiasts as F1 wannabes?
The scoops are interesting, I do wonder if I can mount something on the tiebar to achieve something, although they rely on airflow under the front bumper?
Mowgli I like that idea, figured the metal ends were just there to point air at where matters (which I believe is the centre of the disc?). Wonder if I can rig something up to keep the pipework away as you say
The pic that Pie posted looks a decent idea
What I was getting at is that all this effort to route some airflow towards the brakes is not going to be worth it, you'll never tell the difference and would be better off putting tme and money into something else on the car
All IMO of course
Better picture of the crack in the crossmember now it's cleaned up:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/741.JPG
Decided to weld it up for the time being and keep an eye on it. Assume it might have cracked due to the hefty plate just next to the tiebar bracket where I plated some rot putting stress elsewhere.
Welded up the crack:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/742.JPG
Etch primered and seam sealed:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/743.JPG
you'll never tell the difference
The difference should be pretty easy to see by directly comparing how long it takes the brakes to fade around a track like Donington.
turbojolt
27-01-13, 04:52 PM
i dont see how getting more air to the brakes could be a bad thing, he clearly already has the piping and its not going to be a massivly time consuming job, just make the air flow as direct as possibe
ive got some steel plate from a strenghting kit you can have if you want to plate over the crack aswell mate
scott.parker
27-01-13, 04:55 PM
Iain, I've got a mk4 Astra turbo splitter that has holes in the splitter and the plastic ducting vents to allow brake ducting to br routed etc, let me know if your interested an you can have it for what I paid posted etc..
Got steel here if I want to do that cheers! Bit of a bugger for access with the oil cooler and radiator in there to start plating it, that and I worry it's going to look like a patchwork quilt if I keep adding plates!
Iain, I've got a mk4 Astra turbo splitter that has holes in the splitter and the plastic ducting vents to allow brake ducting to br routed etc, let me know if your interested an you can have it for what I paid posted etc..
Sounds interesting, any pics of the ducting attached to one? I have the air duct splitter-end pieces from a 7 series I was going to mock up today but forgot! These ones:
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww171/ElaineBeemer/EbayParts176-1.jpg
astra coupe uese brake ducts also zafira's in the splitter
astra gsi ducts
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c152/dannyfranks/DSC01087.jpg
http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/images/brkducts_web.jpg
scott.parker
27-01-13, 05:05 PM
The ducting is attached to the back of the platter for the cope turbo one, no pics I'm afraid, not at home at mo either, try Google mate.
The pic that Pie posted looks a decent idea
What I was getting at is that all this effort to route some airflow towards the brakes is not going to be worth it, you'll never tell the difference and would be better off putting tme and money into something else on the car
All IMO of course
you wernt in the car going flat out at donnington in the passenger seat when he sat there, 2 inches from the chicane when he said 'oh my god karl i have no brakes' que an oh f**k clench from my balloon knot!
shaunboy84
08-02-13, 07:42 PM
Rang Beevers auto panels in the week to order my rear quarters. Made it quite clear I was going to pick them up to avoid damage (as recommended by Paul off here), thought that was that and then they arrived in the post :roll:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/190.JPG
One is good:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/191.JPG
The other is damaged:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/192.JPG
So will be ringing them on Monday and asking for a replacement... Collected, if they know what that means. :roll:
could you mail me there address for these panels mate many thanks
scott.parker
08-02-13, 08:32 PM
Dude here's the mk 4 turbo splitter with ducting
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii505/scottie3080/20130205_155907_zps8775b903.jpg
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii505/scottie3080/20130205_155926_zps7f64c3f3.jpg
could you mail me there address for these panels mate many thanks
I think Beevers went under/stopped trading a little while ago mate, sorry.
Cheers for the pics Scott, I have some parts collected and a plan to hopefully execute tomorrow weather dependent so I'll post up how far I get
OK here's what I've been up to the past few weeks
Finished my crossmember repair, primed and painted:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/744.JPG
While I had the paint out I thought I'd plan ahead and cut away some of the crossmember to match the wings:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/745.JPG
Also fitted my new Powerflex ARB bushes:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/746.JPG
What's left of the FloFlex ones after barely any work, one's split already:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/747.JPG
On with the brake ducting...
The pic someone posted previously with the Vauxhall ducts, managed to borrow a pair off Harvey for use on his mk2 Astra:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/748.JPG
They're very far off fit-and-forget really, as the angle of the tiebar/bottom arm is vastly different to the bottom arm angle of the mk2 Astra:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/749.JPG
So I'm proceeding with the ducting idea. Seeing as the proper scoop ducts are £40 a pair, and the Revotec machined alloy intakes are £20 a pair, I bought these plastic intakes for £5 posted the pair, cheapness ftw lol
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/750.JPG
Utilised my cut-down crossmember and drilled/mounted them in the bumper like this:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/751.JPG
Duct can come along here:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/752.JPG
Will be attached to the lower arm/ARB like this:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/753.JPG
And up to the rear of the knuckle like this, to point at the middle of the disc. I will make something up for the end of this pipe to channel air into the disc even more, like Mowgli suggested.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/754.JPG
Needed some new dry trackday tyres so purchased 6 19/57/15 Michelin S9C tyres:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/755.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/756.JPG
Needed to test fit them front and back to make sure I wouldn't have any clearance issues, but they fit well:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/757.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/758.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/759.JPG
Looking forward to trying them out!
turbojolt
09-02-13, 05:29 PM
wont the pipe get ripped to peices by the tyre when turning in now?
That pic showing it routed under the car is with the wheel at full lock left, so should clear. Just.
turbojolt
09-02-13, 05:34 PM
good stuff, i swear my wheels come alot closer to the tie bar then that
slicks look awsome!!
Nice work on the ducts, they blend in well.
Liking the slicks.
Decent work on the ducts, got the right idea aiming it at the centre of the disc too :)
Liking the man tyres too, just be careful they're not more man than you are :gay: lol
Hope you have a well baffled sump ,using slicks Ian ,i found out the hard way
MK999 I realised pointing it at the front meant the caliper and carrier blocked the disc entirely, so hopefully I can channel it into the centre of the disc and it'll be effective.
Toymex thats something I did ponder the other day actually, not sure whether to give it a go or plan ahead and fit one before the first trackday... The XE has a baffle plate above the sump which the smallblocks don't have do they?
Centre of the disc is ideal as the brake disc cooling is basically a centrifugal air pump formed by the rotating fins.
Seems those slicks are more man than you and your sump then :p
You want something like:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc219/TIL13R/Project%20DTR/BaffledSump2.jpg
or:
http://product-images.qedmotorsport.co.uk/vauxhall/c20xe/lubrication/qed-dry-sump-kit-cast-sump.jpg
For high scoring man points :d
zeifer33
09-02-13, 07:01 PM
Nice mods Iain, good work.
8valve-craig
09-02-13, 07:13 PM
Agree'd on the slicks unfortunately. I wouldnt even entertain the idea without a fully rose jointed front end and a dry sump setup.
turbojolt
09-02-13, 07:21 PM
ive got a sump for sale if you want one to baffle out :d
My sump was baffled when it suffered from oil starvation ,its the long sweeping bends that are the killers
Slicks look mean as ****!
kevster
09-02-13, 10:39 PM
Looking good dude'
Will look at baffled sumps, probably a good idea, cheers guys.
I would look into an Accusump aswell to be on the safe side
I'm trying to spend less on the thing nowa days lol
peester
10-02-13, 10:26 AM
Wow things have got a tad more purposeful round 'ere, looks nails.
Maybe keep a beadie eye out on the competition/race/rally scene/forums etc for used competition wet and dry sump set ups - the c20xe is a lot more popular that most vauxhall engines; stand a better chance of finding something suitable.
I seem to remember finding some interesting stuff on westfield/caterham sites? (though that might have been more to so with finding rwd sumps to fit c20xe's)
Failing that, find a good credit card? :-)
I'm impressed with the brake cooling vents, looks like they are reallly going to work, for the end at the brake are you looking to use somethine like a thin hoover attchment end to create some jet pressure and direct the air or will this type of shape just restrict the flow?
8valve-craig
10-02-13, 11:40 AM
If you want the details of a friend of mine he will be more than happy to tig a baffle into your sump.
Think he charges £50, I have one of his on mine.
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/smith9051/Nova%20on%20bike%20carbs/130.jpg
Why would people not use the slicks till the sumps done and stuff?
8valve-craig
10-02-13, 06:18 PM
Phenomenol grip will pull the oil away from the pick-up.
Which in turn will result in blue engine parts.
The extra grip means everything on/in the car will get "thrown about" more and put under extra stress.
Ah i see, ok. Cheers guys. IaIn, best get on to Jonlem for a tie bar set up then....
I'm impressed with the brake cooling vents, looks like they are reallly going to work, for the end at the brake are you looking to use somethine like a thin hoover attchment end to create some jet pressure and direct the air or will this type of shape just restrict the flow?
Cheers, yeah hoover atachment is exactly what I had in mind! lol I will try and get some 2" steel tube and squash one end to narrow down the air to the right place.
If you want the details of a friend of mine he will be more than happy to tig a baffle into your sump.
Cheers for the info Craig, messaged him so will likely be using him if he's up for doing it
scott.parker
10-02-13, 09:38 PM
Dan runs 8-9'' wide wheels with slick tyres on his wide arch, not sure if he's baffled the sump??
trackdaynova
12-02-13, 06:17 PM
Keep close tabs on this thread with a keen eye, loving the slicks - once you've ragged em about and got them up to temperature - you'll be amazed at the corner speeds & grip they produce!
I like how your car is evolving...
turbojolt
12-02-13, 07:20 PM
this car needs tb's.
wont even pay me 30 quid for a sump doubt he will shell out for throttle bodies lol
this car needs tb's.your car needs driving lol
Cheers Olly, yeah looking forward to getting them on and seeing how they feel as I've never driven on slicks before. Had the remaining 5 fitted up today so all ready to roll.
ITBs would be a fantastic addition but the key factor for me is insurance as I like to keep things legit and 100% declared. Looking for a trailer so possibly in March can either take it off the road or get a limited mileage policy for cheapness
trackdaynova
17-02-13, 11:36 PM
Cheers for the welcome back Burgo my Northamptonshire squeeze x
Iain, keep it as it is regarding the engine, when the car starts to slow YOU down, that's when you hunt for more power, if you're off throttle, or braking earlier than you want to be, then you don't need any more power just yet.
At the moment, you may find the car has larger capabilities than the driver, that'll soon change as you do more trackdays!
When my car is fixed again, looking forward to you taking me out, and you can drive the Busa
You got any trackdays booked in the near future Iain?
Very True Ollie, I was feeling a little underpowered on the last Donington day I did which is why I prefer Blyton. See if the longer rev range/cams help things at all!
Busa drive accepted, although I'd be happy with just a passenger ride, sounds fun!
Adam nothing booked yet, insurance/MOT/tax is due in March and the Nova's off the road while the sump is baffled now so probably aim for April?
Well a bit of an all-over-the-place update and all off a camera phone unfortunately but here's what I've been up to
Swapped out my OMEX limiter with launch control for an Armtech unit as it has a built in shift light. Nice little unit and even fitted a clutch switch which triggers the rev limiter at whatever the current RPM is when the clutch is depressed for full throttle gearchanges
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/760.JPG
Tried to stop my alternator belt flipping inside out. You can see the pulleys are slightly out of line here:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/761.JPG
So off comes 1x alternator:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/762.JPG
A weird selection of spacers and stuff that positioned the top pulley! From the nut on the right anticlockwise to the fan at the top...
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/763.JPG
Elongated bracket holes for more on-car adjustment also:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/764.JPG
Bolted it back together with one less spacer:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/765.JPG
And so far so good, it seems to be far more in line.
Now I rounded off my oil level drain bolt a while ago and it's always bugged me, so took everything off to molegrip it out and also change a leaking driveshaft seal:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/766.JPG
The issue with the level bolt was that you couldn't get a socket on it, only an open ended spanner. So I fixed it once and for all. Take one bracket:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/767.JPG
Chop chop, weld weld:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/768.JPG
Smooth it all off:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/769.JPG
Looks factory!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/770.JPG
And allows easy access to the level bolt like factory:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/771.JPG
Also sent my sump off for baffling by Dewis Motorsport on MIG, so I've now refitted this with a new baffle plate. Nice looking welding!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/772.JPG
All the alt stuff i've done. Nice work. Love the rear mount mod, nice welding.
gary_126
26-03-13, 09:05 PM
If your still after mk4 astra brake cooling ducts ive a pair here. (as well as a pair of vectra b gsi ones)
turbojolt
26-03-13, 09:08 PM
going to sound like such a brown nose'er, but every time this build pops up I'm impressed with the work done the car is so amazing
but i will never get in it again lol
Alternator seems happy now so I just need to order a 925 belt (the 913 is a little short) and I'm good to go
Gary sorted the brake cooling now with bumper intakes and ducting work.
TJ there's not a huge amount of interesting work occurring recently, you'll have to come along to a trackday with me though!
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