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Welsh Dan
18-06-08, 11:07 PM
Why don't you just pull the wings out, seeing as its not a 'looker'?
trackdaynova
18-06-08, 11:25 PM
Martin - good idea... I'll have a look into it lol
Dan - I don't think there is enough metal on the standard three door wings to give me the room I need, unless you think otherwise?
I'll get the bottle jack and the wet ply wood out lol :cool:
trackdaynova
18-06-08, 11:30 PM
This is what I'm thinking... might see how it looks...
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/technical/31612-arch-rolling-without-arch-roller.html
Welsh Dan
18-06-08, 11:55 PM
Good stuff.
dhdev (Oli)
19-06-08, 12:01 AM
Hope you don't mind, but there was a curborough thread on CS so I linked them to your vids etc.
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=437292
This is just like what oddball on mig did, had the round rear arches welded in,
gave alot more cleanace.
trackdaynova
19-06-08, 08:20 AM
Yeah Oli, I was "all over the shop" wasn't I. :roll:
Who gives a flying fook how my driving style is, the main aim is to get around their the quickest, simple as, and I did.
I've actually dont Nova rear arches in the same manor, I just needed a few mm but between stretching the arched and trimming the lip right back, I can rear et40's on the rear of my SX :D
[quote=trackdaynova]Yeah Oli, I was "all over the shop" wasn't I. :roll:
Id like to see those f#ckers drive a 35.93 like you did.And considering the geometery was all over the place i dont for one minute think you were "all over the place" at all.
I thought the day was excellent apart from the pump incident and the 2 wheeling was cccccccccoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll !!!!!!!!!!
Liking the idea of the bottle jack and wet ply wood too!!!! Get it done!!!!!!!!!:thumb:
Yeah Oli, I was "all over the shop" wasn't I. :roll:
Who gives a flying fook how my driving style is, the main aim is to get around their the quickest, simple as, and I did.
:thumb:
it doesnt matter how it looks, if you get round quicker you win - end of
trackdaynova
24-06-08, 08:21 PM
Expecting to receive my new replacement tyres on behalf of JamSport any time now, spoke to Mark today, who assures me they were ordered yesterday.
So then - on the subject on wanting to get my nova below 767kg, I'm weighing up (lol) what options are available to me.
Now I've moved my battery to rear left of car, out of the wheel well - I'm now going to cut the spare wheel well out, in favour of a sheet of 2mm alloy riveted in.
I'm still looking around for fibreglass bonnet and boot - however I'm not overly fussed about fibreglass front wings anymore, after speaking to Oli, he explained that they're made so strong, that there isn't alot of weight advantage by fitting these.
Because I'd only be fitting these for clearence, and to lower COG, I'm now going to definately buy a bottle jack and do it the jap way, on all four corners.
Next up - is looking at unsprung weight, I've reduced it at the front by fitting the alloy four pot calipers which were much lighter than the standard items, and at the rear the small 4" springs have helped.
The lightest alloy wheel, value for money is the OZ SuperLeggera at 4.9kg per rim (7x15, and they do ET45), followed closely by the OZ UltraLeggera which is 5.1kg per rim (again, 7x15 ET45 available).
I've just weighed my Cesaros and they are 7kg each rim, no tyre, so across all four, they're 28kg... versus the optimum 4x SuperLeggeras 19.6kg, which would give me an unsprung weight loss of 8.4kg which is corking :thumb:
I have found these for sale at £100 per rim, so it's £400 for a 8.4kg unsprung weightloss...
Or do I go £300 for FG bonnet (£150) and FG boot (£150)...
Without someone weighing their FG items, and me removing mine and weighing them - I don't know which would give me the greatest advantage!
better to lose unsprung weight than sprung weight!
If I recall correctly, the FG boot was about 7kg as opposed to CP's standard item of 14kg. His was a mk2 SR item and the boot spoiler is massively heavy.
MC
You're obviously rich, so spend money on both!
MC
trackdaynova
24-06-08, 09:59 PM
OK, so there is a possible 7kg to be saved on the tailgate alone, and I presume more than 1kg on the bonnet? and £100 less... (for now...) lol
trackdaynova
24-06-08, 10:00 PM
You're obviously rich, so spend money on both!how fecking dare you, i ain't rich!
having a wife, a mortgage and 2 cars doesn't leave me much to play with :( lol I do most things on the cheap, where I can!
Search for some alloy front/rear hubs whilst your at it :thumb:
Here's an email from Andy at agmotorsport, who sell fibreglass bonnets and tailgates (at not a bad price)
The fibreglass bonnets weigh just under 5 kg. The standard steel one is aprox 12kg.
The fibreglass tailgate is 5kg. The standard steel one is aprox 11 to 12 kg when stripped completely bare of all parts - wiper motor, locks, glass etc etc
Hope that helps your decision.
xxspudxx
25-06-08, 07:54 AM
a local rally driver to me (Julian Wilkes sure someone has heard of his car) told me the other day that when he had his car set up for tarmac including tanks and cage and what not he had it weighing 723kg!!!
Think he must of cut a hell of a lot out to get it that weight but still kept it strong somehow?
craig green
25-06-08, 11:38 AM
I'd go the unsprung weight route.
dhdev (Oli)
25-06-08, 01:04 PM
Get the FG bits as the wheels won't affect the corner weighting at all if you get them at a later date ;)
better to lose unsprung weight than sprung weight!
Why?
Out of interest
trackdaynova
25-06-08, 06:32 PM
Ad, the unsprung weight of a wheel controls a trade-off between a wheel's bump-following ability and its vibration isolation. So any bumps and surface imperfections in the road (less likely on a track) cause tyre compression-which induces a force on the unsprung weight.
In time, the unsprung weight then responds to this force with movement of its own. The amount of movement is inversely proportional to the weight - a lighter wheel which readily moves in response to road bumps will have more grip when tracking over an imperfect road.
For this reason, lighter wheels are better. In contrast, a heavier wheel which moves less will not absorb as much vibration; the irregularities of the road surface will transfer to the cabin through the geometry of the suspension and hence ride quality is deteriorated. High unsprung weight also exacerbates wheel control under hard acceleration or braking.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Car_diagram.jpg
ednovasr2
25-06-08, 09:36 PM
how did you not roll it!
This car is a great example of attention to detail!
Nova_Loon
25-06-08, 11:07 PM
love it lol
BRoadGhost
26-06-08, 12:38 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Car_diagram.jpg <--- worryingly accurate diagram of a vauxhall nova
Welsh Dan
26-06-08, 12:41 AM
Its completely wrong, that one has independant rear suspension :p.
Its completely wrong, that one has independant rear suspension :p.
lol
Hope it all gets sorted for you Olly, it could have been worse you could have really injured yourself. :thumb:
ace-media
27-06-08, 08:52 PM
course you can tyrone :thumb:
lol Well that'll be me quoting Snatch for another few days. Damn you Oliver!
Olzor... (what? lol ) with regards to the unsprung weight/new wheels situation, have you looked at the Rota range? Cheaper, likely to be easier to get ahold of... hell - i'd ask Rare Rims for a cheeky bit of sponsorship tbh...
15 x 6.5 or 15 x 7 - don't think they're much (if any...) heavier than the Superleggera's:
Go rarerims.co.uk > Wheels > Lightweight Range
A 15 x 6.5" Rota Slipstream wheel is 5.39kg. £350 for a set too... :thumb:
trackdaynova
27-06-08, 09:00 PM
How odd should you mention rim widths etc, as thats also all gone out of the window lol also strange how you mentioned sponsership.
I've just bought a full Rally-Cross wide arch kit, consisting of wide front wings, wide skirts, and wide rear quarters which I shall be fitting. This is all secondhand, but new, never fitted.
I've done a sponsership deal with a fibreglass panel company who I'm going to get the bonnet and tailgate from.
So now I'll be running 8 x 15 rears at ET20 to widen the track out to the new rear quarters.
At the front I will be running 15mm hubcentric wheel spacers with 8 x 15 ET40 wheels also to widen the track.
All this said means I can lower the COG quite dramatically.
Spare wheel well is coming out in favour of an alloy sheet.
Thanks for the gen on the wheels Al, I'll certainly have a look at Rota's as opposed to OZ Ultra (or) Super Leggeras...
trackdaynova
27-06-08, 09:04 PM
Al - are these the Rota Slipstreams you were talking about?
http://rarerims.co.uk/images/Wheels/sml2_221.jpg
4x100 et40 15x7 Gunmetal polished lip
£380.00 (In Stock)
Wonder if they make a lower offset to 20, or less...
EDITTED / ADDED:
Spec:
15x6.5, 15x7, 16x7, 16x8, 17x7.5, 17x8, 17x8.5
4x100, 4x108, 4x114, 5x114
et28, et34, et40, et45, et48
Available in staggered setups please ask!
From 5kg
You'll have to ask about, but I have a feeling corsa lower arms and stuff would increase your track by 20mm.
EDIT: D'oh forgot you have the trick R/J'd stuff.
You really are going all out with one Olly!
Wide track kit will look cool..
dhdev (Oli)
28-06-08, 01:15 PM
So now I'll be running 8 x 15 rears at ET20 to widen the track out to the new rear quarters.
At the front I will be running 15mm hubcentric wheel spacers with 8 x 15 ET40 wheels also to widen the track.
Thanks for the gen on the wheels Al, I'll certainly have a look at Rota's as opposed to OZ Ultra (or) Super Leggeras...
Why spacers up front with different offset at the back? Surely having equal offset all round would be better, as it would allow you to swap wheels front to back to even out wear on track tyres?
For wheelweight info go to www.wheelweights.net (http://www.wheelweights.net) ;)
Rick Draper
28-06-08, 01:51 PM
Olly you are better off widening the rear beam and sorting out wider front suspension. Otherwise you will be killing wheel bearings with the offset of the new wheels and the pressures of tracking the car on 888's.
Just what i was about to say /\
Having low offset wheels to increase the track will put huge strain on hub bearings etc (which already get stressed enough on track etc)
dhdev (Oli)
28-06-08, 02:32 PM
I've had no trouble on my 25mm spacers and 888's, although mine doesn't have a big block lol
Rick Draper
28-06-08, 04:59 PM
I've had no trouble on my 25mm spacers and 888's, although mine doesn't have a big block lol
Just because you have not does not mean olly will not, look at Charles..
dhdev (Oli)
28-06-08, 05:53 PM
I didn't say Olly wouldn't, in fact I inferred that he may ;)
nova ian
28-06-08, 10:50 PM
Sounds good dude, plenty to keep you busy with then!
Got to agree with Rick though, I'm not convinced by the spacer idea. Just seems abit easy way round the problem which doesn't always work.
Can't wait to have a butchers at this wide arch kit.
trackdaynova
28-06-08, 11:07 PM
Jeeeeeeeeeeez lol
These are just ideas being thrown around, doesn't mean I've gone and done anything just yet.
I am currently in the process of having a complete new custom lower arm setup made with RJ'd inners, new shorter tiebars etc, this was prior to my decision to make it wide, so everything is still pretty much up in the air, so no getting knickers in a twist lol
I might whip the drums off the rear, and have some alloy spacers made to widen the rear beam, so I can retain the same offset allround really isn't that much more trouble to do, so thats probably the favoured move.
For now, some crap pitch black dark pics:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0889.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0890.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0891.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0892.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0893.jpg
Rear bumper will be sold on, along with grill as they're ghey mk2 items, and the front wings will be altered to cater my standard indicators at the front.
nathan.
28-06-08, 11:17 PM
Looking good olly.
Like the ideas of making the track wider and it will look awesome with that kit fitted :cool:
Fook me, you collected that quickly lol
Nice :)
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 09:46 AM
had it collected the following day from Glasgow :thumb:
awsome stuff olly...
putting the skirt's on or leaving them off??
i'd leave them off, they may not weigh much, but it's still extra weight at the end of the day lol
vaughanmc
29-06-08, 10:51 AM
Will be mean with the wide body on it :)
Oooo loving the wideness...
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 02:41 PM
Thanks for the comments, I'm not really known for hanging around for stuff, so I fitted the kit today... well... mocked it up so I could make up my mind.
Personally, I love it - I can appreciate others will hate it, but thats what car modifying is all about right.
We can't all have a GSi, with Speedlines, lowered 60mm now can we lol
Ste - not possible fitting the rear quarters without the skirts, unless you start chopping them up - I personally love the skirts as it keeps the width throughout.
As you can see from these pics fitted, the last foot or so of the skirt is in with the rear quarter already...
Anyway - enough talk, lets see some piccies
Good news on the weight of the front wings
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0894.jpg
Steve made a start in removing the front wings
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0895.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0896.jpghttp://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0897.jpg
Clearance that will be made at the back, which is ideal, as currently very closer to the inner arch, so either way, they need spacing out (or beam widening) anyway
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0898.jpg
Kit on, all held on very loosely
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0899.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0900.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0901.jpg
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 03:11 PM
wehhheyyy! well chuffed someone else does :) :thumb:
i'm ridiculously poor on photoshop, so please excuse this... but I just wanted to see what it'd look like, poor colour match I know - anyone else whose better (or even, professional *ahem* nova ian *ahem*) if you wouldn't mind...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0902.jpg
Lmao^ looks like grout(sp) for stickin bricks together :P
re: the rear beam, olly, maybe you could kindly ask Austin to make you a wider one, seen as tho he made the one for his loon?
could be worth a shot?
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 04:28 PM
I could drop him a line, but it's not a great deal of a job to be honest, could either weld in a steel box section to bring it out 55mm on either side... ala:
http://www.eurorallye.co.uk/images/broadbeam1.jpg
Alternatively, I could have some spacers made up, to fit in between the beam and the drum...
t45_ste has one for sale, but @ £225 I'll think i'll do me own lol
yeah just an idea thats all fella..
i need to sort meself with a welder so i can start on mine lol
How does it fix on? Rivets/Bolts? (have to cut out some of the rear 1/4 arch?)
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 04:49 PM
You cut out the complete rear quarter, but leave a 1" lip just to rivet the FG onto the metal.
Two options are to spray the panels, rivet them on, and job done :thumb:
or
Rivet them on, and smooth the edges in with more f*breglass or f*ller :gay:
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 04:55 PM
such like this Ad, red line is the cut of the metal, blue is the rivet where the FG panel would overlap
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0903.jpg
Ah right, i get ya.
Meh, fook smoothing them in, get them on lol
started this about 2 hours ago as I had to trawel through 131 pages lol very impressive build, amazed at the attention to detail
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5008/trackdaynovawidezr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
peester
29-06-08, 06:19 PM
crickey.. all on a drive way too? lol..
will look cool, dispite the loss of its 'wolf in sheeps clothing'..
Wide kit looks good imo, bit more hard-core, but as said it'll loose its sleeper'ish look..
Awesome photoshop too!
Funk me that looks tasty!
Dont got get when you hack off the outer skim on the quarter you'll need so my up a plate to join the inner to the fb outer..
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 08:08 PM
all on a drive way too? lol..WTF? whats that spose to mean? :confused:
Dont got get when you hack off the outer skim on the quarter you'll need so my up a plate to join the inner to the fb outer..Benn - am I not reading that correctly, or does it not make sense? lol
Translation lol
Peester meant all the work your doing, on your driveway... i.e. not in a heated workshop or something lol
Benn means the outer 1/4, where its joined to the inner, dont cut past the join so the inner and outer and still spot welded together....
:)
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 08:40 PM
it's all coming out, and then an alloy section being rivetted in from the inner panel, to the fibreglass :thumb:
nova ian
29-06-08, 08:42 PM
Here you go duck, seeing as you asked so discreetly!! :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/Wide-Arch.jpg
Looks good by the way, Nice to hear your putting it on:thumb:
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 08:44 PM
fecking hell man! what an awesome 'shop, from scratch I presume?
really nice Ian, definately made my mind up now :) thanks pal :thumb: +1 rep!
Looks 'ard. :cool:
Nice skills Ian
Benn - am I not reading that correctly, or does it not make sense? lol
Sorry yeah, you'll need to make up a joining piece from inner arch skin, to the fb wide arch.
trackdaynova
29-06-08, 09:09 PM
I'm not too sure how I'm going to fit it all yet.
I kinda just want to rivet it all on, and just leave the bare rivets and edges showing, ie proper rally car styliee, but I'm not sure whether I'll dig that look or not.
I suppose I can do that for starters, and if I do really not like the raw look, I can put a skim of fibreglass over the edge to blend it in.
My plan is to do this trackday coming up on Friday 18th, and then I have TOTB on Sunday 27th July.
I've now decided that it's then I'm going to take the car off the road for the rest of the year, as my insurance will be up, my MOT, and tax... so i'll do all the major changes from August, until its done.
That way, I'll have no deadlines, nor putting myself under pressure to get it finished before X trackday, which is what I usually do...
Now I've said that, i'll probably fit it next week and go from there lol
Count Vaux Alot
29-06-08, 10:20 PM
Really love the wide idea, and that photo shop is superb carry on the good work and get it done! This is going to be a real wepon, i'd love something similar.
facking hell olly that wide arch kit looks fecking awesome mate!!!!!!!!!!!
cant wait to see it all on either.if you want help then give me a bell and providing i aint working ill give you a hand.Then when im back off holiday we can sort the wheels out for my ride!!
btw steve looks gay in that pic!! lol :gay:
dhdev (Oli)
30-06-08, 07:53 AM
Kit looks super dooper! Looks like a proper track weapon now though, no more stealthing around as a '1.2' :thumb:
trackdaynova
30-06-08, 03:38 PM
I'm thinking of respraying my car, maybe white, as I love white novas
I know they're common - but really, champagne sucks ass man.
Reason being, is as now I've ordered my bonnet and tailgate, the only panels I won't need to spray are my doors, and roofskin, both of which I plan to replace in the not too far distant future for carbon and fibreglass panels...
So if I'm going to be changing the colour of my car, now is the time to do it...
I'll have a play on the ole' photoshop and see what I think...
And you could easily do a DIY jobbie, like you did for the engine bay, so wouldn;t cost much to do...
If your re-spraying it, I recon you should get some vinyl done at the same time. It's not going to be a sleeper any more, might as well shout about it ;)
I'll get 'shopping
trackdaynova
30-06-08, 06:46 PM
Go shopping' Ash :)
Here is nova_ians photoshop of my car in white, with the kit on...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0904.jpg
OOOOOOooooo, that looks cool as fook.
DO IT
trackdaynova
30-06-08, 07:03 PM
is it possible to get matt white paint?
Adam Moran
30-06-08, 07:04 PM
Black with White wheels ;)
is it possible to get matt white paint?
You can get matt finish laquer.
Welsh Dan
30-06-08, 07:10 PM
is it possible to get matt white paint?
B&Q sell it as emulsion :).
nova ian
30-06-08, 07:40 PM
Right then, Spent bloody ages doing this!! lol
First one: Put new rims on, and even went as far as photoshopping in new brakes as the old cessaro's had more spokes than these! Added a fibreglass bonnet with single support at front, and got rid of bonnet struts, removed side repeater and some other stuff I can't even remember!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/Wide-Arch-D.jpg
Hope you like them mate:thumb:
trackdaynova
30-06-08, 07:43 PM
well... everyone knows my love from white/ black combos from my previous Nova...
massive thanks to nova ian again, photoshopping moreso with the wheels I want (lightweight rota slipstream), addition to my new panels (fg bonnet), and attention to detail here and there (removal of bonnet struts), new bumper/ pinstrip colour scheme... I think my mind is made up!
PS: my pinstrip is a little thinner lol (used Ians shop as a base though)
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0906.jpg
good shop' but imo it doesnt look right..
I have some Sprint style skirts going spare if your after some lol
Also matt white paint is better known as Eggshell.
I love the wheels, they are a must!
Not sure on the white tho...
Looks spot on in that shop IMO
But im biased towards white lol
Awesome stuff Olly! I really love it in white, looks great. I can't wait to see it for real :)
trackdaynova
30-06-08, 09:48 PM
cheers mate :thumb: looking forward to ripping it apart again!
Black with White wheels ;)
bugger off lol lol thats how mine is :p
hybridturbo
01-07-08, 01:59 PM
Not really sure on the whole wide arch thing but if your taking the car off the road for x amount of months i would go the whole hog.
New inner arches to take the shape of the wider ones and remove as much metal as possible instead of just riveting over the top
106 maxi style aye..
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c139/gsijoe/jantrier-106maxi.jpg
dhdev (Oli)
01-07-08, 03:12 PM
I'd second that ^^^ get all the cage tagged in and do the FG roof/doors at the same time, then get it fully painted inside and out :thumb:
Adam Moran
01-07-08, 04:48 PM
bugger off lol lol thats how mine is :p
Ah yes.. but yours is a group n escort!
106 maxi style aye..
Agreed, i built up a Maxi Super 1600 GTi several years ago, the bodywork alone took some funking doing mind!
Looks very different with the wide arch kit.
I reckon it'd look awesome with a large flying chips logo on each door in yellow if painting the car white.
I'd second that ^^^ get all the cage tagged in and do the FG roof/doors at the same time, then get it fully painted inside and out :thumb:
That should like a good way to do it.
Cut the lower parts of the quarters off,
Caged fully welded and added bars,
Then lash on the white..
trackdaynova
01-07-08, 10:15 PM
I plan to cut the complete rear quarters out (window level and down)... so I don't understand whats being suggested? the rear inner arches will be extended out to meet the FG arch.
No point in adding bars to my cage, as it's just adding weight at no gain.
Carbon doors are only if Paul sells me them, and roof skin again, not a priority as I don't think there is alot of gain to be had, but every little helps
Going to be leaving the rivets exposed to start with, to see how it looks.
Just been doing some research on the front legs, I obviously need to elongate the top turret holes to the outer wings otherwise I won't be able to reduce the massive negative camber
I'd second that ^^^ get all the cage tagged in and do the FG roof/doors at the same time, then get it fully painted inside and out :thumb:
Screw that idea unless the cage is coming out and a T45 cage is replacing it.
From what I'm aware Olly is still keeping this within a sensible budget and building it maxi style comes at a large cost, I'd love to see it done that way but essentially unless you have a shed load of cash to put into it I don't feel its needed for what Olz wants.
Adam, Its group 4 :p :thumb:
broster
03-07-08, 07:18 AM
Screw that idea unless the cage is coming out and a T45 cage is replacing it.
i found making a few tie points from the cage to the body work makes a nice difference. regardless of the cage being t45 or not....
looking good with the wide arch stuck on :thumb:
trackdaynova
03-07-08, 10:21 AM
Thanks guys... got some new goodies, so went on to mess about fitting them
Big thanks to nova ian for coming down and helping me out tonight when we thought we were on a tight deadline :thumb: really appreciate that mate!
Prototype set of custom fabricated lower arms with RJ'd inner TCAs, sets of these will be readily available for sale soon
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0907.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0908.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0909.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0910.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0911.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0912.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0913.jpg
On with fitting
New vs Newer lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0914.jpg
Shexy inner TCAs, with M10 bolts, replaced the measly M6
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0915.jpg
This is about maximum castor you can expect to run, as a solid state without causing problems anywhere, and they don't catch the front wing on either lock
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0916.jpg
Slight occurance when you run the wheel so far forward is the driveshaft likes to caress the side of the oil filter (big cocks only)
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0917.jpg
Give it a tickle
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0918.jpg
Plenni-o-room
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0919.jpg
nova ian
03-07-08, 10:39 AM
These are very nice pieces of kit of very good quality, alot of potential and adjustment available, Just a shame vauxhall didn't take this into account when producing the xe's and put the oil filter out the way! waht were they playing at! lol
Good stuff Olly;) :thumb:
trackdaynova
03-07-08, 10:45 AM
As said above Yan - thanks loads for coming down to help me last night, really appreciated your time :)
nova ian
03-07-08, 10:49 AM
As said above Yan - thanks loads for coming down to help me last night, really appreciated your time :)
No worries, anytime:cool:
The Simps
03-07-08, 01:02 PM
looking good chap :cool:
Nice one Olly.
BTW the bolts were M10, they are now 1/2 inch ;)
Nice Olly. Looks well the new bottom arm setup does :)
looking very nice olly mate :thumb:
Count Vaux Alot
03-07-08, 09:27 PM
The new set up looks good! If you don't mind me asking are they expensive and do they fit well? Have you got any on car pics of the whole set up? Keep up the boundry pushing
trackdaynova
03-07-08, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone :)
Vaux Alot - I am sooooooo sorry! completely forgot to get you those measurements pal! I will get you them tomorrow with any luck.
This new setup fits nicely, my previous lower suspension setup will be for sale, with a polybushed inner, boxed off strengthened TCA, with rosejointed tiebars. All the new owner will need to buy is the front mounts :thumb:
krobinson
03-07-08, 09:45 PM
Awesome setup :)
Count Vaux Alot
03-07-08, 10:08 PM
Vaux Alot - I am sooooooo sorry! completely forgot to get you those measurements pal! I will get you them tomorrow with any luck.
This new setup fits nicely, my previous lower suspension setup will be for sale, with a polybushed inner, boxed off strengthened TCA, with rosejointed tiebars. All the new owner will need to buy is the front mounts :thumb:
Cheers dude no problem, the new set up looks very simple and purposeful hope it works as well as it looks good, thats a pain i've just brought all the bits :mad: just need to put them together, are the new control arms based on the old ones?
trackdaynova
03-07-08, 10:10 PM
my new track control arms are completely custom, but the ones i've just removed, are based on the OE ones, but beefed up and strengthened :)
i found making a few tie points from the cage to the body work makes a nice difference. regardless of the cage being t45 or not....
looking good with the wide arch stuck on :thumb:
Bracing the cage to the pillars is as far as I would go if I was bothered about weight, Its not going to get the car any lighter by building a CDS climbing frame in there
BRoadGhost
04-07-08, 07:28 PM
Some top notch fab there and another solution to what I run.
Only thing i will say is don't put it up a kerb because boxed arms eliminate what was before a cheap off the shelf item designed to bend in an extreme impact. That force now running those might mean the end of an entire front end.
trackdaynova
04-07-08, 09:10 PM
I hear ya Si :thumb: Never actually thought of it that way.
Looking forward to a completely solid/ bushless front end now... nice and tight :)
Count Vaux Alot
04-07-08, 09:46 PM
my new track control arms are completely custom, but the ones i've just removed, are based on the OE ones, but beefed up and strengthened :)
I should have asked if the new ones were the same size and shape etc as the the original GM ones not the strengthened ones you got of JB if that makes any sense? :tard: Are the new ones made from one and a half inch box?
trackdaynova
04-07-08, 10:12 PM
Not sure on the exact measurements, but the ones I first got from JB, are OE wishbones, that have just been strengthened... or am I getting it wrong? lol
Basically, you have standard OE ones, then first set I got from JB, which are identical but with strengthening, then I have my new new ones, which are completely custom, slightly longer than OE ones to give me instant negative camber which is what I wanted
greetings from sunny spain olly!!!
Hope you had a good time in benidorm?
Loving the stuff getting ready for the nova,thinner poly carb windows and fibreglass bonnet and wings etc.Should look awesome.
Sorry ive not been in touch or anything but been busy then on holiday in spain(did i forget to mention that?!!).
I should be able to get round next week at some point for a gander at the new goodies for the nova if thats ok?Ill call you fisrt either way!!! BYE
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 06:19 PM
Hiya Matt, yeah great time thanks!
Got my new rear polycarbs which are only 2mm thick, instead of my current 3mm thick to save some more weight yesterday, in preperation for my FG bonnet and boot.
Had a delivery today of my shares... shares in Grayston Bonnet pins lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0920.jpg
And another delivery from AG Motorsport
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0921.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0922.jpg
FG Bonnet weight
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0923.jpg
FG Tailgate weight, without polycarb in
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0924.jpg
Hinges already rivetted on
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0925.jpg
Will probably cut this inner panel out to reduce the weight further
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0927.jpg
Badda-bing, will be fitting them on Saturday
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0926.jpg
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 06:26 PM
My plans with the car have changed slightly -
Negliable, but along with my new rear 3 polycarbs, I'll no longer run names on rear windows, and I'll be removing my white sprint door squares, seeing as the local sprints are over with for this season
I'll concentrate more on trackdays, until I have some friendly sprint competition (*ahem* LiquidPug, m17tty, nova ian, Paul205 *ahem*)
So it might even go back to sleeperish with absolutely no stickers on, and smooth sides
I've sold on the wide rear quarters and rear bumper, simply because I worked out it'd cost the best part of £1200 to wide track it properly, with new wheels, new new new lower wider front arms, widening beam, fitting, making it look nice, and spraying it etc... for absolutely zero gain.
I've kept hold of the front wide wings, just so I can fit them and see what I think they look like without wide rears, I know Oli has them like that (and I personally think it looks awesome) but different colours make things appear majorly different.
I've bought a bottle jack to widen the rears slightly, as I only need enough to fit a 3mm spacer, so going wide was a bit OTT for such a little amount of space needed.
Other than that, thats it for now... I've cancelled tomorrows trackday at Donington Park, in preperation for a somewhat more important event, TOTB, next weekend :)
Ta for reading :thumb:
4kg tailgate, jesus, light as fook lol
vaughanmc
17-07-08, 06:40 PM
Good wee update mate
They staying white or they getting painted ?
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 06:55 PM
Ad - 4kg is damn light isn't it, will remove the interior panel aswell, 2mm polycarb shouldn't weigh too much, and I'll be having a stick-on rear plate to reduce the weight even moreso :)
Vaughan - the panels will probably stay white, as I doubt I'll have time to spray them, but I might go and get some paint tomorrow, and get them sprayed up for fitting before TOTB, either way they'll be on the car, just unsure what colour yet lol
vaughanmc
17-07-08, 06:57 PM
lol Nice one mate
Black bonnet and a body-colour tailgate, sweeeet !
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 07:04 PM
eugh noooo not black bonnet.
If I'm going to the effort of spraying them at all, might aswell be bodycolour lol
i'l be at TOTB Olz, will come say hello seens as tho i missed ya at PV
I have been wondering what you where gonna go about fitting the kit..
That boot and bonnet are very nice light touches.
That boot and bonnet are very nice light touches.
Smooove:cool:
i think ill make a trip upto TOTB this year.is your main priority the handling course?who else is in the team?
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 08:31 PM
Yup, I'm there purely for handling course, as my gearbox doesn't do me any favours in the 1/4 mile and top speed...
For our full 'TEAM VAUXHALL' team...
http://www.redlinemag.com/page/redline?entry=redline_totb_entry_list
We have Specky & GAZ'D who are capable of low 11sec quarters.
We have ChrisS which is capable of late 160mphs
Myself & Span are mainly there for handling
But obviously we have many more which are there to get points for our team :)
No reason why Olly won't do well at it, looking forward to seeing him suprise a few people :)
Cheers for returning my call last night Olz ;)
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 08:35 PM
Martin - sound mate, make sure you come and say hello :)
Make sure you have scruffs on, so you can be an addition to our Team Vauxhall Pit Crew :thumb:
Yup, I'm there purely for handling course, as my gearbox doesn't do me any favours in the 1/4 mile and top speed...
For our full 'TEAM VAUXHALL' team...
http://www.redlinemag.com/page/redline?entry=redline_totb_entry_list
We have Specky & GAZ'D who are capable of low 11sec quarters.
We have ChrisS which is capable of late 160mphs
Myself & Span are mainly there for handling
But obviously we have many more which are there to get points for our team :)
Specky and Gaz'd run high 11's, anyone with a turbo engine is capable of over 160mph as the team features some BIG power cars.
Are you camping Olz or going up on the day ?
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 08:38 PM
I thought Specky ran a 11.4 recently no? Surely under .5 means 'low' 11s ;) Wasn't sure about Gaz, but thanks for correction :)
We are going up on Saturday and stopping over, however not in a tent lol
Martin - sound mate, make sure you come and say hello :)
Make sure you have scruffs on, so you can be an addition to our Team Vauxhall Pit Crew :thumb:
yeah i make a crackign brew and can pass tools quick LMFAO
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 08:51 PM
Sound, we'll be there from 4pm on Saturday.
Options were - travel up in the Nova, but then we have to camp in a tent, and thats just wrong
Secondly was to drive both the Nova & Jeep up, so we can pile all the bits in the Jeep, and sleep in it, but that means twice as much fuel
Thirdly, we're towing the nova :gay: and sleeping in the Jeep
Sound, we'll be there from 4pm on Saturday.
Options were - travel up in the Nova, but then we have to camp in a tent, and thats just wrong
Secondly was to drive both the Nova & Jeep up, so we can pile all the bits in the Jeep, and sleep in it, but that means twice as much fuel
Thirdly, we're towing the nova :gay: and sleeping in the Jeep
i'l be there sometime sunday morning lookin rather hung over i should think, its my last nite of boozin and the like for 2months lol..
just what u need with a head ache loud cars poping and banging haha
do you still have to run all 3 events though?also slightly off topic-when you fitted the adjustable tiebars could you tell the difference?
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 09:02 PM
Nope, it's a kinda open pit arrangement, I'm going to spend all day on the handling circuit.
And should our team need any points, albeit coming 4th or 5th, I could possibly give the others a crack...
However, out of our team, I can categorically say that I will have the slowest quarter, and least top speed of 134mph.
And yes - great difference with the adjustable tie bars, just made everything so tight, and I'm looking forward to driving it again with the RJ'd inner TCAs as that will now make my suspension completely bushless :thumb:
I thought Specky ran a 11.4 recently no? Surely under .5 means 'low' 11s ;)
Correct
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZemYqLCvc
Yes Specky did do a low 11 on slicks but tbh I think a few people would if they used the same tires, totb will be on treads and Specky and Gaz'd have only managed high 11's on treads ;) lol
meh, slicks or no slicks, i'l still beat em' in my Bobcat ;)
Correct
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZemYqLCvc
Look at who uploaded the video lol ;) :thumb:
awesome additions to the nova olz. Think i may be doing a track car sooner rather than later as ive hadf some money through on the old premium bonds in the last couple of days according to a text from my old dear.So a valvered corsa could possibly be in the pipe line very soon!!!
trackdaynova
17-07-08, 11:53 PM
w00000t another Corsa XE to munch :D ;) lol jokey wokey
The Simps
17-07-08, 11:56 PM
completely bushless :thumb:
always good :thumb: lol
Like ur plans Olz.
dhdev (Oli)
18-07-08, 07:23 AM
Bushless suspension rocks (literally haha) Understand totally your reasons on not going proper wide track, hence why mine is just running spacers! I do think there are gains to be had from proper wide track, but maybe not enough to justify the cost...
Loving the weight saving you're doing, you'll be snapping at my heels soon! I best get the holesaw out again lol.
And 300+(bhp) on the TOTB site...I take it thats with a serious squirt of laughing gas :D
trackdaynova
18-07-08, 08:18 AM
Nah - the bhp claims on the site was them I think, as there wasn't a space for it on the entry form - and I certainly wouldn't over exagerrate my power figures, however I think I am the only one without that figure! lol
Infact, I'm probably theee only car with under 200bhp lol
dhdev (Oli)
18-07-08, 09:50 AM
You'll be a damn site lighter than most though ;)
Infact, I'm probably theee only car with under 200bhp lol
I got some gas you can borrow Olly!
dhdev (Oli)
18-07-08, 11:25 AM
I'm surprised that Chip isn't insisting that you run nitrous, he was (as usual) quite blunt with me when I offered to run in '06.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhdev
Isn't that cheating http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/lmao.gif
I'd prefer to do it sans NOS if possible. Would be something of an achievement to have a N/A 1.6 litre Nova mixing it with the TOTB big boys http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif
Doing it without nitrous would also be silly on the handling circuit though, there are a couple of straights you would be quicker down with the nitrous its a real power circuit really, hence the skylines manage ok on it, its not like going round the haynes track where a 1.6 16v nova might be fairly quick.
BUT if you qualify without nitrous, and want to run without it, im not going to exclude you from the team just cause you are a bit dim about motorsport and using whatever the rules dont expressly forbid! http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/lmao.gif
trackdaynova
18-07-08, 02:57 PM
Mazz... sounds tempting - but I wouldn't have a clue how to fit it.
I suppose it would help me on the straights...
TOTB Downloadable Event Program now available:
http://www.redlinemag.com/page/redline?entry=redline_totb_7_program
Chip/Spanish/Jonlem etc are all nitrous users though, im sure they could have you a kit fitted on the day.....
But being on bodies means you will need direct port kit.......
trackdaynova
18-07-08, 03:07 PM
Yup - thats right Ad.
Slight change of plan on the day, so it seems - just checked out the program and we are limited to only 5 attempts at the handling circuit, so I will definately be doing 1/4mile and Top Speed runs, I certainly ain't going home with only 5 handling attempts lol
Happy days!
trackdaynova
18-07-08, 07:51 PM
So im preparation for TOTB, I continued fitting the new RJ'd bottom arms and got the drivers side done, but with help from nova ian we'll do the passenger side then.
I had some paint mixed up today, and collected a litre of cellulose 'Platinum Metallic E112 / 50L' which is the colour of my car. So the panels will be sprayed tomorrow
So after doing the dirty work of doing the arms, my attention turned to the tailgate...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0929.jpg
Out with the pins, came out very easy
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0930.jpg
One metal standard but lightened tailgate with 3mm polycarb
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0931.jpg
12.2kg, yiiiiiiikes
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0932.jpg
Offered up FG item, played about with the hinges
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0933.jpg
2mm polycarb cut to shape and weighed alone, 1.2kg, old 3mm item weighed 1.7kg - so 0.5kg/ half a kilo saved on changing from 3-2mm alone
Rubber put on, getting a dab hand at that now lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0934.jpg
Laid ontop for now, as tailgate is being sprayed tomorrow
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0935.jpg
Removed door squares and names on windows, smooothie
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0936.jpg
Whipped off my standard metal, but lightened bonnet, 10.1kg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0937.jpg
Christ theres a good diff lose there then.
LiquidPug
18-07-08, 09:18 PM
What's next Olz - cling film????? lol
Looking good - glad you decided against the rear wide arches, would have been a b@ll-ache to do!
another xe´d corsa corsa to munch my ****!!!!! Ill have it big time matey!!!
Shame the red devil got sold but i reckon rob is well up for a joint build very soon so we could make a bit of a nova slayer????!!!! Or not !!!?????
Can you TEXT me the dates and whereabouts of TOTB as i might get a car load up there for some quality viewing.
Nice one Olly, good weight savings there. What does the f/g bonnet weight?
trackdaynova
18-07-08, 11:12 PM
Ad - all the new bits were weighed on Pg139 :) (5.3kg)
My car when I had it weighed as 767kg unladened
My tailgate, complete was 12.2kg, my new tailgate is 4kg, plus the 1.2kg for the new 2mm poly carb, so now a complete new tailgate is 5.2kg, so thats a 7kg saving.
New weight: 760kg
My bonnet as it was fitted was 10.1kg, and my new one being 5.3kg, being a 4.8kg loss.
New weight: 755kg (for now)
Obviously I have the rear quarter windows to do in 2mm, which will be negliable, but then I'll still probably do wheels, as there is 7.2kg unsprung weight to be saved there for £350
nice 1 olly just keeps getting better
Cool, nice savings then :)
dhdev (Oli)
19-07-08, 10:44 AM
I ****in love weight savings :cool:
Looks good mate, that is some SERIOUS weight saving from those 2 panels, I'm really curious now how much I saved with my bonnet as the old Ford stuff is built like a tank lol
Direct port nitrous kit sitting here from the greeny meany, braided lines, bottle heater, 3 x 11b bottles, can have it activated of tps if you like so all you have to do is drive and hold on :)
Update:
I've just got off the phone to Olly and I'll be fitting a kit this week :)
The extra power and torque on the handling circuit will make a BIG difference.
trackdaynova
19-07-08, 12:43 PM
cah0000t. thanks so much JB - really appreciate it!
I'm well chuffed with the tailgate weight, the bonnet is light, but I still think Oli's is even lighter, by the feels of it
Done now with fitting bottom arms, they're all done. Now just about to go and get geometry redone at a local place, whilst the paint dries on the panels.
Never sprayed before (other than engine bay), so wish me luck lol
Doesn't need be show standard paint finish, so it'll be REET :D
trackdaynova
20-07-08, 12:24 AM
May sound like a broken record, but big thanks once again to nova ian who came across today to get my car prepared for TOTB - really appreciate your constant help! - Also cheers for Liquid for popping in - was nice to see ya bruv'
First off, just a couple of piccies of the bottom arms fitted, and setup. I now have the full 4° positive castor which is what the groupA Nova tarmac rally cars ran, so I'm mega happy with that, and the fact they clear the front valance/ wings is even better - albeit by only about 4mm, but it clears
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0938.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0939.jpg
This emphasises just how much castor we have managed to gain with the new rosejointed setup
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0940.jpg
Next up - welcome to our spraybooth lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0941.jpg
Bonnet semi-primered
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0942.jpg
Tailgate drying in the sun whilst hanging off the washing line
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0943.jpg
Again, negliable but more weight saving done
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0944.jpg
trackdaynova
20-07-08, 12:26 AM
All primered, sprayed up in colour, flatted down, and laquered (yes, slight postage dent in bonnet... grrr), thanks to Ians persistance with the laquering
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0945.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0946.jpg
Tailgate
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0947.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0948.jpg
Bonnet just resting on the car to see the colour match, was quite pleased with how it came out
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0949.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0950.jpg
Good work as expected. Loving the spray boothe :cool:
Who needs a heated oven boothe when youve got a washing line :cool: lol
Great stuff
Colour match looks well too :)
vaughanmc
20-07-08, 12:39 AM
Paint job looks not too bad :)
When will the weight saving actually stop lol
Is there anything else that can be stripped out ?
trackdaynova
20-07-08, 12:39 AM
Yeah, I'm pleased with it, would have liked the finished product a little shinier though, should I be honest, but it's good enough for TOTB, and the car, as a track weapon!
Oh - notice I'm at the top of my threads on my coilovers like I was explaining to you... coppergrease on the lower threads btw lol not rust :)
Yup, just noticed now, wound right the way up.
dhdev (Oli)
20-07-08, 07:47 AM
Colour match looks good on bonnet and boot, and the weight saving from removing hinges etc is definately worth having :) Keep up the good work! i should be at TOTB to cheer on the lightweight under-powered car :thumb:
dhdev (Oli)
20-07-08, 08:43 AM
Seeing as we were talking about your car...What actually is happening to the champagne supernova today? Will you run it single seat on the day?
Well worth taking the passenger seat and belts out. Looking good Olly.
Good work once again:thumb:
trackdaynova
20-07-08, 10:43 AM
Car has to run full road trim, so 2 seats, 2 harnesses, altho, I think that is where the nitrous bottle will sit now lol
trackdaynova
20-07-08, 11:11 AM
Forgot to mention, at the geometry place yesterday they had the proper four wheel laser alignment, and the tracking was miles out, whilst it was up on ramps we did a full bolt check and torqued all the bottom arms up.
And from where my beam got rachet strapped at Jam Sport, nova ian borrowed a Porta-Power from a mate, and we managed to get the beam pulling parallel again, which gave much more stability on the way home! :)
nice work mate, realy good..
will seeya next sunday fella
Nice work dude,
you didnt flat the base coat off then lacquar it did you? As you should reapply base over anything you've flatted down, as the flatting will remove the metllic bits in the base and lacquar wont cover flattiing scratches.
trackdaynova
20-07-08, 11:48 PM
Ian was over again today to help me finish of the work needed in time, so thanks very much pal, I will be returning the favour in due course!
Jobs to be done were to fit cut out and rear quarter polycarbs, measure up and drill bonnet for the four pins, measure up and drill tailgate for pins, adjust hinges, set camber to -2°, set castor to +4°, bottle jack rear arches and space rear wheels out by 3mm, although these sound like small jobs, they're all time consuming and can't be rushed
Now for some pics, firstly to mark out the closest part of the rear arch to the wheel, which set circa 3mm from the tyrewall
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0951.jpg
Soak plywood in boiling water, until all bubbles disperse from wood, so its full soaked up
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0952.jpg
Get thick alloy, or steel to brace across the car so it's not pressing against shock absorber, put bottle jack horizontally, then plywood against arch and gentle jack out
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0953.jpg
Start to see the gains, use heat gun to heat the paint and metal so they flex instead of crack, then leave for both to go cold whilst arch is in final position
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0954.jpg
Relax jack, and admire lots of clearence, a damn site easier, nicer than I expected it to be, this clearence is with a 3mm spacer fitted, which didn't fit at all prior to this, I can now run fingers all the way down the tyre wall, without touching the arch
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0955.jpg
Slightly more done on the other side, as this was alot closer, loving the flairyness
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0956.jpg
Whilst I was doing the above, Ian was measuring up for the pin fitting, must say - his attention to detail is amazing, much more effort than I would have gone to!
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0957.jpg
Hole drilled, then he offered up the pin upside down to see where they needed filing too
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0958.jpg
All done, yes yes, i know
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0959.jpg
trackdaynova
20-07-08, 11:50 PM
Then cut the new rear quarter windows out, each 3mm item weighed 0.8kg (1.6kg pair), and each new 2mm item weighed 0.5kg (1kg pair), so another 0.5kg saving
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0964.jpg
On with the tailgate, alot of fiddling with the top hinges to get the panel gaps right, which we got in the end, then fitted the bottom pins the same position as Lee
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0960.jpg
Panel gaps look spot on for a fibreglass panel
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0961.jpg
Then side gaps fine, and new rear polycarb with no stickers
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0962.jpg
Tart
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0963.jpg
Used alloy tabs at the rear of the bay to mount the back pins
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0965.jpg
Final outcome, and new stickerless look
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0966.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0967.jpg
Looks pukka Olly :)
I picked up all the nitrous bits today, going to order some parts tomorrow so I have everything for when I fit it.
I might have to do the installation one weeknight and set it up at Elvington on the saturday ? I can't see your neighbours being too impressed with us doing static tests at 10pm LOL
nova ian
21-07-08, 09:56 AM
No worries man, It needed sorting and there's no way you'd have got it all done in a weekend on your own, glad to be of assistance:) :thumb:
novashed
21-07-08, 11:01 AM
nice work bloke, getting a bit ofan alrounder now mate! never thought id see you properly spraying, top job mate
WOW this has had some work on it!As stated if you flatted the base down then you should have sprayed more base on and not flatted it before lacuer being added.You might get a better finish and shine if you use some rubbing compound on it to get a deeper shine from the lacuer.
Loving the f/g additions and the BOOOOOSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT olz!
trackdaynova
21-07-08, 03:32 PM
lol just looked at the photos again, they are actually shadows from some trees on the bonnet, we're not that bad at spraying lol
Thats look really good Olly - top marks!
Liking the new arch clearance :cool:
F/g Panels look well :)
trackdaynova
21-07-08, 10:33 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone :)
LiquidPug
22-07-08, 06:43 PM
Olz - what you doing for a rear number plate?
What about http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STICK-ON-REAR-NUMBER-PLATE-SELF-ADHESIVE-SHOW-PLATE_W0QQitemZ150272109044QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m150272109044&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 :thumb:
trackdaynova
22-07-08, 06:56 PM
Just doing some tarting before TOTB, managed to paint my tow eyes red which I've wanted to for a while lol, made up my stick on plates, having them both front and rear for less weight, and fronts will leave air holes exposed, and rear, I wouldn't want to drill FG panels, and also gave the front valance a tidy up/ respray prior to fitting front plate...
Couple of pics for what it's worth
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0968.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0969.jpg
trackdaynova
22-07-08, 06:58 PM
lol @ Liq's reply - didn't even see that before I posted, I thought Ste L was the last to post on the previous page lol :thumb:
LiquidPug
22-07-08, 07:07 PM
PMSL - great minds and all that :gay:
Looking good mate! :)
Any 'paint the exhaust black' gen?
God this car has seen some changes! I have one word on my mid and it's hardcore! Car is looking awesome olly!
trackdaynova
22-07-08, 09:15 PM
Exhaust box may go black, however the tailpipe is making its own cutout on the bumper everytime I drive it lol meltage!
Thanks John - nice to know it appeals to those even without an actual interest in doing it themselves :) :thumb:
vaughanmc
22-07-08, 09:17 PM
Looks awsome mate - How much more weight saving are you going to do with the car ?
Surely there is no more places you can strip...
trackdaynova
22-07-08, 09:34 PM
been offered a fibreglass roof skin, but not sure what is to be gained, and what hassle it'd be fitting it.
i'll probably get some new wheels, which would save me another 7kg... and then I'll get the holesaw out :) :thumb:
LiquidPug
22-07-08, 09:59 PM
... and then I'll get the holesaw out :) :thumb:
Check out the holesaw action on this lol
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/Liquid106/Car_Stuff/205Gti.jpg
vaughanmc
22-07-08, 10:00 PM
lol Nice one mate
Will be mega quick, I'd love a blast round a track in it
trackdaynova
22-07-08, 10:05 PM
Apart from that being a horrible french piece of tat, the holes make it semi cool lol
MSN boyo
LiquidPug
22-07-08, 10:08 PM
just for that quip about the Pug class, no MSN.....
....go one then tart, don't want you to start :cry:
:thumb:
BRoadGhost
22-07-08, 11:07 PM
Yeah making those sections weak as possible is ideal for when the car takes a smack in the ar$e where the fuel cell will be living.
Oh and also on a FF layout I hear you want as little weight on the back as possible.
Wens the gas gettin fitted Olly? apart from thats are you allset for TOTB?
also will you be going round the curcuit in Speedos for that extra bitof less weight PMSL
Yeah making those sections weak as possible is ideal for when the car takes a smack in the ar$e where the fuel cell will be living.
Oh and also on a FF layout I hear you want as little weight on the back as possible.
Contradiction or what??
Use your head, hole saw in the rear to reduce rear weight. Fuel cell in the boot?? Why? You want the fuel tank centrally mounted as low down as possible ideally.
As little weight on the rear as possible is dangerous :thumb:
t45_ste
23-07-08, 05:47 PM
Yeah making those sections weak as possible is ideal for when the car takes a smack in the ar$e where the fuel cell will be living.
Oh and also on a FF layout I hear you want as little weight on the back as possible.
Sarcasm i think :D
trackdaynova
23-07-08, 06:22 PM
Martin - gas is being fitted on Thursday night, courtesey of Jonboy & Gav :thumb: other than wiring the shiftlight up, getting tracking sorted, and sorting tyres out, I'm half way there lol :)
DOH
I really want to go TOTB :(
We're going from Stoke Friday morning with Bicco, you an join us if you want - its quite a trek though..
Cheers for the offer Mazz, but im working(hence why i cant go lol ) :(
But i think im going be "ill" on sunday anyway :D
Martin - gas is being fitted on Thursday night, courtesey of Jonboy & Gav :thumb: other than wiring the shiftlight up, getting tracking sorted, and sorting tyres out, I'm half way there lol :)
Sorted lol Youve got some great mates lol..
some of mine wont even stand there to watch never mind help pmsl
i'm looking forwards to sunday now, i never spent much time on the HC last year, but will be checking it out when your on it fella:thumb:
24hrs and counting till you experience torque LOL
trackdaynova
24-07-08, 06:38 PM
Well currently at JBs, in process of fitting the Nitrous... just a couple of pics so far...
Bits off ready for measuring and marking out
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0969-1.jpg
Ohhh blue and red bits
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0970.jpg
Trumpets & backing plate off for drilling
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0971.jpg
Navigators footplate out, and is that where the bottle is suppose to go?
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0972.jpg
Castor on front wheel, as not shown a pic before with wheel on
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0973.jpg
Will update with more later...
Welsh Dan
24-07-08, 06:51 PM
Has it got Nozzzzzzz mate? :D
Good stuff :cool:
How much are you running? 100hp through a controller?
str8 from the bottle FTW pmsl
LEWI007
24-07-08, 08:19 PM
Really good nova but i dont really like the wide arches myself but its a great car keep it up
Well I have to say I'm feeling a touch rough today LOL, possibly not as bad as Olly does after leaving at 2am but hey ho.
Install is done, had no time for testing though as it was really late and as the night went on my brain stopped working so everything seemed to be worked on 5 times and we didn't seem to be getting anywhere.
There is a few things to sort yet but nothing that can't be done on saturday, the tps box isn't in yet so its on a button controlled by the passenger.
Typically one thing that really got on my tits was trying to get the air filter back over the trumpets, twice I damaged the pipes but then got them routed reasonably well.
I think Olz is happier than I am with it but it'll do what it needs to, possibly after some sleep tonight I'll have a clearer head for finishing it off, or maybe not as we now have Gavs Nova to make look complete lol
Thanks again Olz for the help and food and drink last night, without that we would of been fooked
trackdaynova
25-07-08, 05:11 PM
No probs James :) ;)
There won't be a controller, just a straight hit with 50 or 75bhp jet when I hit WOT, depending on how fruity I'm feeling lol
Just a few more pics from yesterday...
New plugs, plus spares
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0974.jpg
DOF injector shot
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0975.jpg
NA vs Turbo lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0976.jpg
All the lonesome nights, left Jonboy with a mahoooosive right fore-arm lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0977.jpg
Goodies on
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0978.jpg
Injectors in
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0979.jpg
Funk me that forearms liek my leg pmsl
Nice neat install mate. Ready for sunday now ?
Nice install, proper tidy :cool:
Looking a bit hardcore...
looking good olz.Love the nitrous idea,should be handy at totb.
Good luck for sunday mate
LiquidPug
25-07-08, 09:44 PM
Come on tart - post up your progress!!!!!!!
trackdaynova
26-07-08, 08:56 AM
so, we're officially set for TOTB, gave it a wash (wtf?!) yesterday... Me & Ian managed to wash the paint off the bonnet lol I'm taking it back to wherever I got the dodgy spraying done lol
funniest part was over at James' house, Turbo Gav turned up, he said "hey nice spray job on the bonnet", he then ran his hand down it and continued "yeah, you can cut that up into squares and use it as sand paper" lol
so yesterday was just basically to get tracking redone, load up nova, sort trailer out and wire in shiftlight :)
I got a maximiser if you want it Olly, we won't be til easrly sunday though..
trackdaynova
26-07-08, 11:16 AM
I think JB is bringing one for us to wire up mate - but thanks for the offer mate, really cool of ya.
Sorting the car out this morning and sun was in a cool position, so thought I'd grab a few more to whore the cheating gas
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0980.jpg
Moody
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0981.jpg
My new neatly installed shiftlights
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0982.jpg
Hooked up and ready to go - leaving in 30mins :)
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0983.jpg
nice pics olz, me has a new desktop lol
nova ian
26-07-08, 02:23 PM
Good work mate, glad its all sorted.
Shame I can't make it, but best of luck to you, kick some ass mate!!
Nice pics Olly as always.
Best of luck.
At least your trailoring it just incase the worst happens lol
peester
26-07-08, 07:16 PM
crickey this must be a hoot to drive; awesome spec now... looking forward to results..
Well done today olly, did some good times, looked good on the handling curcuit fella
every time i came over to say hi, you was about to go back out lol so never bothered ya's
yeah i got a couple of pictures today when you was on the handling circuit.it looked to go well and handle very well aswell!much impressed:thumb:
dhdev (Oli)
27-07-08, 09:34 PM
Congrats on the result today Olly. Some fine driving displayed. I have a few pics and vids which I'm uploading at the moment :thumb:
54 seconds dead on the handling circuit!! An excellent achievement to say the front runners were around 49 and substantially more power than yourself.. Well done Olly top skills. :)
trackdaynova
27-07-08, 09:57 PM
Thanks everyone for the nice comments, and even more so those that turned up to support me/ us as 'Team Vauxhall', it has been an awesome day out - a real good experience.
Obviously being a complete Nitrous virgin, I was probably asking alot of dumb questions for those that knew about it, but there is only one way to learn right?
So, I came 2nd place overall in the FWD Handling Group, which I'm over the moon about with a 54.00s run, and the winner did a 53.97s run, a mear 0.03s better. A 450bhp Fiat Coupe who has won for the past 5 years running :( so I didn't do too bad, right?
My 54.00 run was with a 100bhp shot of Nitrous, straight in, no controller.
I took several hundred photos, along with in car footage of all my handling course runs, and 1/4 mile.
I also managed to achieve a 12.8s @ 112mph quarter, which again wasn't too bad considering its on concrete etc.
Despite the hurls of abuse my car got, not one single thing went wrong, and even enabled me to drive half way home just for the crack. No tyre pressure nor suspension was tweaked, it was literally as I took it.
It was awesome meeting all the friendly new faces, too many to name and the most thanks goes to Jonboy for the constant help, advice and encouragement throughout the weekend to get me the results I achieved :)
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