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Engine bay looks really well thought out. :thumb:
Thanks mate
Tried to plan it so it makes sense.
Every item had 3 or 4 different possible locations and we tried to only do everything only once. Hate the idea of having to move stuff. We've been quite lucky hardly anything has had to be moved to fit something else.
So little update.
Paint booked for 7/5/19 and should be done and back by 28/5/19.
Ben has been putting the finishing touches to everything, including this chassis brace, which is a work of art
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And this little cover plate/heel rest for the pedal box
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Few more tiny bits and bobs to be buttoned up then off to paint.
Hoping to see a shakedown trackday at Brands mid-end of July.
Lovely work as usual, I would get Ben to put a footrest to the left of the clutch pedal while it’s there
totalnova
13-04-19, 09:24 AM
Chassis brace looks brilliant, think there would definitely be a market for them.
Have you decided on a colour yet?
Nick
Lovely work as usual, I would get Ben to put a footrest to the left of the clutch pedal while it’s there
Great shout Jezz!!!!
Chassis brace looks brilliant, think there would definitely be a market for them.
Have you decided on a colour yet?
Nick
Audi Brilliant Red outside and Ford Stealth Grey inside/underneath
Christ that looks nice.
Love the bottom end bracing.
Few last minute things going on before paint next Tuesday
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More last minute bits done
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Manifold ready for Zircotec coating
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That's it now, the next time I see the car it will be in colour and ready for the engine to go in
totalnova
05-05-19, 07:39 AM
Exciting times, this will be a real weapons when it's done.
Nick
nova_niek
06-05-19, 09:32 AM
Manifold ready for Zircotec coating
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I've read about Zircotec coating before, but don't have any experience with it nor have I heard of people's experiences with it. Any good? What do you think House?
novarally
06-05-19, 12:13 PM
I've read about Zircotec coating before, but don't have any experience with it nor have I heard of people's experiences with it. Any good? What do you think House?
Zircotec is something I've thought about, so I'm interested to hear House's view also. But what a shame to cover up those welds!
Well,
The options are leave it as is, we all know that XE's in Novas suffer with heat so this doesn't work for me.
Exhaust heat wrap... not matter how hard I try with this, after a few months it just frays and ends up looking awful and it's itchier than a loft insulation duvet so doesn't work for me either.
That puts us onto Zircotec.
I discussed this with Tim at the Phirm and they use it on a lot of their big powered cars to keep temps down. I know it's harder than a coffin nail and they do it in black now, it used to only come in white, which was a nightmare as thumb prints wouldn't come off it.
They claim on their website to reduce a manifold temp from 1100c surface down to 700c so it seems to work.
I do know people that have cracked manifolds on turbo cars and can't clean the zircotec off to repair the manifold.
I'm gonna call them tomorrow and discuss options and time frames as I'm away from home for a few weeks so can't send it to them.
So with the shell off for paint I've got a lot of the bits back with me in the workshop.
Been sorting and prepping stuff now Ben doesn't need it for mock up
Managed to source a set of driveshafts
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Now these I like!! Titanium bolts for crank sensor bracket, little dowty washers to seal, as the sump will run in a vacuum the washers should be plenty.
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And as I'm paranoid, lock wired in
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Filter back plate also painted as I didn't want the aluminium oxidising and looking crap.
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Got the special 510cc Pico injectors, sourced specifically for me by SBD, fitted and in, I also stripped and cleaned the throttle bodies, ensuring they went back together properly.
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Got the tank painted and added some heat resistant matting to the underside of the tank, I'll be using the same stuff on the underside of the tunnel aswell to keep the exhaust heat from radiating into the car.
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Stat housing cleaned, painted and assembled with 82 degree stat and brand new sensors in
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I couldn't resist a little gear indicator test, displays gear oil temp too
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A quick squirt of seam sealer and she's been dropped off with the painter.
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Aiming for 3-4 weeks to get the shell back with the doors, boot and bonnet a week after, this should allow us to get the engine back in and build the car up, then just bolt the doors and bits on when they're back.
8valve-craig
08-05-19, 10:14 AM
This is great news mate. Cant wait to see this all built up.
This is great news mate. Cant wait to see this all built up.
Thanks mate!!
Another step closer today, all stripped and inspected, as suspected it's never been used in anger.
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Despite being sat upside down on the bench at Modus for nearly 18 months there's still loads of assembly lube stuck to everything!!
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Belt and pulleys all off
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Pump on, had to cut a lug off the block for it to fit!!
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Had to modify this cover and make this little spacer for it to work properly
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All stripped back ready for the crank seal and new belt to arrive from SBD in the morning
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Sump went on today
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I was short on 4 bolts, they're on order!!
All safe and sound back home, only took me 2 years to pick it up after it was finished!!
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totalnova
09-05-19, 07:29 PM
Rocker needs painting.....
But seriously looks brilliant, I bet you feel like a kid at Christmas.
Rocker needs painting.....
But seriously looks brilliant, I bet you feel like a kid at Christmas.
I knew that would be the first comment!!!!! Haha
That's a temporary cover, the actual cover that is blanked off for the dry sump had an accident in the hot wash so I need to get it re-painted.
And yeah the idea that I could be driving it in 6 weeks after all this time is pretty mad.
the sump comes with an O-ring so you didn't need to silicone it:
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what has been done to this motor, and is that one of those fancy high torque starter motors?
the sump comes with an O-ring so you didn't need to silicone it
It doesn't or I'd have used it.
It's not an SBD kit, it's an original Pace one, hence needing to add the bracket for the external crank sensor.
Lots has been done to this engine!! 12.5:1CR, Newman PH5's, Neil Roper head, +1 wasted stem valves
And yep it's a high torque starter from Brise.
Engine looks most acceptable. Don't throw away the red blanks they look useful for storage engines!
Engine looks most acceptable. Don't throw away the red blanks they look useful for storage engines!
I'm prepping a little box especially for you
Never ending!!
Thought I'd get my clutch fitted and prepped and checked before we actually bolt the box on. Luckily I did!!
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The assembled height with the clutch fitted and slave cylinder, I measured from the block mating face to the height of the fingers 61mm add a mm for wear as per Helix's instructions, plus 44mm for the slave we get to 106mm.
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Unfortunately from the mating face on the box to the slave mounting face I only have 100.5
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Predictably Quaife were useless.
Luckily James at Relentless Performance is an AP dealer so he set about searching for a smaller slave to no avail.
We quickly realised that we had to change to a 7 & 1/4 inch clutch, which means a new flywheel and slave bearing but it's all ordered and will arrive tomorrow.
Got my cam cover painted too, it looks like cleaned up aluminium that been lacquered which is kind of what I wanted, won't be to everyone's liking.
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Hmmmmm titanium bolts
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Not strictly lock-wired correctly as all 5 should be linked but it will achieve what I'm looking for, the worst that will happen is all 5 will undo 1/4 of a turn.
And now onto the real prize of today!!
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James assures me it'll be quite forgiving and not such an on/off switch.
Awaiting the flywheel delivery then the whole lot is off to Jay at Modus for a balancing check before we can bolt it on. I will ofcourse bolt it all up and measure it prior to sending it to Jay.
Clutch is only there to hold the power, you won't even use it once you're out of the pit lane :)
Happy to have helped out with some bits on the car
totalnova
17-05-19, 04:45 PM
Speechless as always. I love this build, it's the attention to detail and money no object (that's the impression anyway) that will make this stand out.
Nick
Speechless as always. I love this build, it's the attention to detail and money no object (that's the impression anyway) that will make this stand out.
Nick
Thanks mate!!
I'm not sure it's money NO object but it has to be right and money isn't the deciding factor and I guess I'm so far in now I've got to keep going!!
Nearly there now!!!
Got my nice new black trainers on!! Oh and the flywheel arrived!! 2.5kg
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All fitted up
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Measurements taken to check everything
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I need to make up a 2.4mm spacer to sit behind slave to get the minimum travel I need.
Clutch is only there to hold the power, you won't even use it once you're out of the pit lane :)
Happy to have helped out with some bits on the car
Appreciate all your help and knowledge mate
Appreciate all your help and knowledge mate
No problem. Look forward to seeing it on track 👍
Love that House asked me to peer review his measurements while I was hammered in a field lol
Love that House asked me to peer review his measurements while I was hammered in a field lol
Who better to ask than a drunken farmer??
So I wasn't happy with my cam cover
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Went down to Modus and borrowed the blaster
Then re-filled it, I'm not very good with filler!!
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Got it as good as could be, bearing in mind it's a cam cover not a show piece and this car ain't no show pony.
Then back hammered effect hammerite which will be 2k lacquered to make it petrol resistant the same as my steering rack.
I know everyone hates hammerite but it's thick, it filled the little imperfections and once lacquered it's harder than a coffin nail
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Rack looks alright in the silver with lacquer on it
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I can't be doing all this smooth stuff, it's too much effort!!
totalnova
20-05-19, 07:21 PM
Yeah I have to admit I wasn't a fan of the cam cover before, black and understated all the way.
Yeah I have to admit I wasn't a fan of the cam cover before, black and understated all the way.
Yeah the silver was only ever gonna be temporary but I couldn't handle it!! I should imagine this will get painted properly at some point!!
Busy day today.
Got myself up to Ben with the new slave and bearing to see what we could do with regard to spacing the slave off box.
With a lot of tea fuelled debate, we decided that making a spacer behind the slave wouldn't be as easy as first envisaged. So we went with this idea
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I made the ring from a big bit of tube, tidied it up and parted it off on the lathe at 2.6mm
Laid in place
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I pressed the bearing in and it's raised the slave retracted height to 46.5mm which means brand new clutch travel will be around 5mm which is perfect.
Next, shift cut has been troubling me!! Some background info.
The quaife box uses a potentiometer connected to the indicator to display gear position. My original intention was to simply piggy back the signal wire to the ECU and then as soon as the gear change barrel starts to move, the ECU would be programmed to cut the ignition.
Here in is the problem, if the barrel is moving then the box is already trying to change gear but power is still applied. The answer is to fit some form of load cell to the lever so that as soon as the lever is pulled the ECU cuts the ignition and by the time the barrel starts to move the load on the box has been reduced and we're in business.
Handily, quaife don't give any scope for a load cell on their lever, with the neutral interlock going up through the lever aswell so changing it isn't an option.
Some tea and thinking later........
One load cell, courtesy of James at Relenetless, I cannot speak highly enough of how helpful he has been.
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Some measuring and a bit of turning on the lathe led to this
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Then some sweating and measuring 5 times, I had to cut down the end of the gear level push rod
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A bit more turning and some clever tapping, half of the middle spacer is tapped 1/4UNF the other half M8x1.25. Put together and tightened up
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When all was said and done, you can't resist a bench test!! I grabbed a false neautral between 2/3 cos the lever was only held by a bolt in the vice, when the input shaft is spun and the lever pulled properly all gears work beautifully, I even setup and adjusted the neutral interlock, so that's all done ready when it's back in the car
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Oh and the shell will be in primer by Friday
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Should see some colour by next Friday and be back with us roughly on schedule.
You don’t hang around do you. Nice job with the load cell
Can't wait to see it painted
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Underneath and engine bay painted.
Inside tomorrow
Full colour Monday/Tuesday
Can't wait to see it red
Jesus you're never happy, first you want paint on it, now you specify the colour!
Whilst the car has been away being painted I've also been sorting out my trackday setup.
Decided to get hold of a LWB, high top transit.
Looking to add a bed and shower in the back, with diesel air heater and a water heater.
All this means I've had to arrange a B+e towing licence in order to be able to tow legally.
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It's got a tow bar already and as it's rear wheel drive they come with a split battery system and charging system already so all in all a good base to work with
totalnova
08-06-19, 01:54 PM
You're not messing around house, I can see this conversion is going to get serious, it will end up with windows and everything haha.
Nick
You're not messing around house, I can see this conversion is going to get serious, it will end up with windows and everything haha.
Nick
Haha not sure how serious it'll get!! It'll be comfortable which is all I want!!
total_vauxhall
09-06-19, 07:42 AM
Just done b+e for the same reason owning a lwb 3500 transit . I have the bed up high at the back of mine all boxed in so when you open the rear doors it leaves a big space round the size of the back of vauxhall combo under the bed for track spares
Yeah I'm working it all out so it serves the purpose, I don't want to spend loads converting it so it'll be relatively cheap and a bit rough and ready but it's for somewhere to sleep that isn't under canvas cos I hate camping but hotel costs spiral out of control turns a £200 trackday into a £400 trackday!!!
total_vauxhall
09-06-19, 10:28 AM
That was our exact reason sick of waking up soaked in a tent and having to go racing feeling like shit . Much better in the van.
That was our exact reason sick of waking up soaked in a tent and having to go racing feeling like shit . Much better in the van.
Couldn't agree more mate, snetterton bike racing this weekend and it was pouring down, all of us huddled in my mates transit, diesel heater on full, warm and dry!!
In other news.
Car is officially painted red and in the oven baking now. I'm collecting it tomorrow lunchtime. Photos to follow.
totalnova
10-06-19, 08:36 PM
Car is officially painted red and in the oven baking now. I'm collecting it tomorrow lunchtime. Photos to follow.
Look forward to seeing the pics
total_vauxhall
10-06-19, 09:02 PM
Cant wait to see it painted that engine bay and the red will contrast very well
I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve!!! Not gonna sleep a wink tonight!!!
novarally
11-06-19, 03:56 PM
Where are the photos? ;) ;)
Where are the photos? ;) ;)
Well...........
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Got it straight back to Ben's and cracked on!!
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Front suspension on aswell and some stuff inside forgot to get pics of that!!
Engine will be in by 10am tomorrow, back on it's wheels and back home to my workshop for the real fun to begin
torquey
11-06-19, 08:15 PM
Paint looks awsome pal.
novarally
11-06-19, 08:18 PM
Well worth the (short!) wait. It looks great.
What’s the grey you’ve used for interior and engine bay?
totalnova
11-06-19, 08:26 PM
Looks brilliant, now the fun begins getting it built up. :thumb:
total_vauxhall
11-06-19, 08:44 PM
Very nice
What’s the grey you’ve used for interior and engine bay?
Thanks to everyone.
The interior and underneath is painted in Rover Hurricane Grey. We were going to use Ford Stealth Grey but we decided the continuous "why's it still in primer" questions would get boring!!
Bar far the best part of the build is bolting stuff on - it's easy and you get massive satisfaction!
If only the whole process of modifying could be that way!
totalnova
12-06-19, 11:17 AM
Bar far the best part of the build is bolting stuff on - it's easy and you get massive satisfaction!
If only the whole process of modifying could be that way!
Very true, I've found with modified parts nothing ever fits as it should, so I've spent half my time making modifications to modified parts.
Or buying a modified part and having to modify the car to make the modified part fit only to find the modified part now doesn't work as intended and you have to modify the part to suit the now modified car.
Car modifying........who'd do it!!
Busy day
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Back home
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novarally
13-06-19, 04:40 AM
Wow - a very busy day!
torquey
13-06-19, 07:05 AM
Looking great
Jonesfach
13-06-19, 01:57 PM
Be on the road by Mondaylol
Stunning work.
Be on the road by Mondaylol
Stunning work.
Hoping to have the engine turning over Monday. With any luck!!
Well........
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Sounds badass
Now back on the trailer and over to see Mitch at pro-line motorsport to have the last of the brake lines made up.
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Should be able to move under its own steam Thursday.
Rolling road booked for 28th June
totalnova
17-06-19, 11:45 PM
You're making great progress, just goes to show how well thought out it has been. :thumb:
You're making great progress, just goes to show how well thought out it has been. :thumb:
Thanks mate.
My original plan was to have the whole car complete and running prior to painting but we didn't get time for that!!
boffer8
19-06-19, 02:13 PM
Wow, this looks and sounds amazing! Seems to be flying along! by any chance are you bringing it to the VBOA weekend? would love to have a look around it!
Wow, this looks and sounds amazing! Seems to be flying along! by any chance are you bringing it to the VBOA weekend? would love to have a look around it!
It'll be there mate. I'm looking forward to it, got a few up north friends that are coming down to look too.
It might not have doors and boot or bonnet or windows!! But it'll be there, mapped and driving, don't look too hard though, there are already things I'm not happy with and will be changing!!!!
Assuming it doesn't blow up on the rollers ofcourse!!!!!
We're doing RRG aswell this year.
Bit more progress
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Oh and I've wanted a wheel hook ever since I've had a removable wheel!!!
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Just waiting on the resoviour to M/c lines which I should have tomorrow and I can get it all bled up and brakes working. So by Friday it'll be very almost complete.
A few minor niggles, the coolant drain won't seal so I've ordered a dowty washer for it and I ran out of extinguisher pipe so couldn't finish the last nozzle.
Nice! I'll keep a look out at VBOA
Well we've got a clutch pedal. All works!!
Had a minor panic, looking down into the top of the box where the slave cylinder is I saw fluid!!! PANIC!!!!
Emergency tampon on the end of a screwdriver
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Cleaned and checked, it seems the fluid I saw might have been a drop of oil that had somehow made it's way down there.
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Either way panic over!! Clutch pedal has about 50mm of travel, pedal stop all set according to Tilton's instructions.
Now, the DTA S40 is meant to run a coil pack and only has 2 coil drivers. This means each driver is running 2 coils as I'm using coil on plug, even running for a few minutes I have seen coil driver temps of up to 116 degrees and the engine turns itself off.
So, first upgrade!!!
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Started making up a brand new engine bay loom as the S60 uses 2 plugs, meaning my S40 loom is no use.
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Should have the new loom finished Monday/Tuesday ready in time for the RR Friday.
I've also just heard that the doors boot, bonnet, wings and bumpers are painted
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Back up to see Ben on Wednesday to fit them all up.
Clicky click!!!
https://youtu.be/UaAnTl1yMl0
Didn't quite get reverse properly, need a little adjustment on the clutch travel
total_vauxhall
22-06-19, 06:13 PM
:thumb:
boffer8
25-06-19, 12:11 PM
Happy days!
Really looking forward to seeing and hearing this... Credit to you for getting on with it so quickly!
The S60 should unlock a few more options for you than the S40 too
Thanks Boff.
I'll be there from Friday lunchtime, I'm sleeping over with Harvey but car will be on display with PNG during the day.
So last few little niggles sorted out.
Change of brake pads and put it on it's wheels and it's RR ready.
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Let's see what happens!!
I'm sleeping with Harvey. Let's see what happens!!
We can do more than hugs ;)
bazzap8389
25-06-19, 05:45 PM
Nice work mate. Thing of beauty!
Thanks Bazza.
So busy day today
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There we go!!
torquey
26-06-19, 09:20 PM
Looks brill. Well done.
novarally
26-06-19, 09:34 PM
Hugely modified but so subtle to look at.
Superb.
Hugely modified but so subtle to look at.
Superb.
Dunno what you mean Colin, it's just a 1.2 Mk1 with an induction kit and exhaust!!!
Looks brill. Well done.
Thanks mate
total_vauxhall
27-06-19, 06:47 AM
That front valance just make the whole look , realy nice build
That front valance just make the whole look , realy nice build
Thanks mate.
That front valance just make the whole look , realy nice build
Would look cool with the matching rear one too, but ask him what happened to that lol
Would look cool with the matching rear one too, but ask him what happened to that lol
I melted it at Brands on the sighting laps.
Errrrrr
https://youtu.be/GO_XKAC5WQ0
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totalnova
28-06-19, 09:19 PM
I saw it on their Facebook earlier, Really good power that.
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total_vauxhall
29-06-19, 05:42 PM
Revs nice and high aswell
Revs nice and high aswell
Soft limit at 8450.
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https://youtu.be/ukDgyglsWuM
novarally
30-06-19, 10:16 AM
https://youtu.be/ukDgyglsWuM (https://youtu.be/ukDgyglsWuM)
Goes well ;)
Jonesfach
30-06-19, 12:38 PM
White van must of thought....WTF!lol
total_vauxhall
30-06-19, 03:05 PM
^^ i thought the same lol
torquey
30-06-19, 04:49 PM
Sounds epic. Goes well
As said, you should totally upload that to pornhub lol
8valve-craig
02-07-19, 11:26 AM
It would be good to get this out on track with mine at some point see how they compare. I doubt there would be much in it.
Southie
02-07-19, 07:08 PM
That’s a cracking test, you must get a support bra though due to excessive man boob wobble lol
It would be good to get this out on track with mine at some point see how they compare. I doubt there would be much in it.
I disagree, your pedalling skills will be evident
Southie
02-07-19, 09:19 PM
Sounds like we need a PNG version of street outlaws.
NovalutionGSi
06-07-19, 12:05 PM
Well it certainly hasn't been built for comfort! Lol
Love that sequencal box. Needs a 2nd seat so you can scare the shit out of everyone doing passenger laps.
Need to update my project now... lol
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Took the car to Sywell for the VBOA show.
There was a little test strip of runway for hooning about, had a few runs on Saturday and then early Sunday morning.
Too much lock and right foot led to a blown inner CV on the end of the equal shaft setup.
I think it had been knocking from brand new so may have been knackered out the box. I'm investigating plunge tomorrow and will check it all adds up ok.
https://youtu.be/Ks-qPEX3EaE
totalnova
07-07-19, 11:00 PM
Sounds epic. shame about the mechanical failure, but I guess it's just teething problems.
Sounds epic. shame about the mechanical failure, but I guess it's just teething problems.
Yeah to be expected.
It seems that when the drive shafts were measured I hadn't taken into account the adjustment of the lower arms for camber. Which ofcourse will push the hub further out.
We manufactured to some 10mm spacers today and I've added them.
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All set and ready for tomorrow.
Where's the bonnet?
Removed cos I had to que for each run and it was 'king hot!!!
Interesting day at Mallory.
Some flat shift issues to start with and then an issue with the diff saw me only get a few sessions in.
Car back home, engine removal started so I can send the box back to quaife to get the plate diff removed and an ATB fitted.
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I know ATB's aren't as good, but I can't be dealing with diff problems, removing engine and box each time if the plates wear or the ramp angles aren't right or whatever.
I'm not going to worry about the 1 second a lap slower that I'll be, I just want the car to work every time I take it out.
Changed my mind, ordered a gripper, will be with me Saturday, box and diff off to a Quaife approved specialist to be installed and back to me hopefully in time to go in the car for me to make it to Brands 23rd July
https://youtu.be/Z8VkcqJgi_g
novarally
12-07-19, 08:46 AM
https://youtu.be/Z8VkcqJgi_g (https://youtu.be/Z8VkcqJgi_g)
Do you not find the thing dangling from where the rear view mirror would be rather distracting?!
totalnova
12-07-19, 10:02 AM
Do you not find the thing dangling from where the rear view mirror would be rather distracting?!
I was thinking that while watching the video
total_vauxhall
12-07-19, 10:20 AM
I was thinking that while watching the video
Its an analogue g force guage . When he touches the roof you know your going quick round the corners .
Car looks amazing on the track btw
Gripper FTW :)
Good to see you at the weekend fella
Do you not find the thing dangling from where the rear view mirror would be rather distracting?!
Not in the slightest mate!! Don't even see it!!
It's farther over than the rear view mirror it's pretty much infornt of the passenger!! Iain drove the car and removed it!! Haha saying it bothered him but I dont even see it!!
I'll move it before the next day to keep everyone happy!!!
Gripper FTW :)
Good to see you at the weekend fella
Likewise big lad
Car looks amazing on the track btw
Thanks mate, I'm mega rusty but I'll get it back I hope.
boffer8
12-07-19, 11:16 AM
Car looks and sounds mint, what gripper set up you going with?
Take it its a tran x your removing from the box then?
Good to have a poke round the car at the weekend and speak to you in regards to it, looking forward to seeing it get some abuse over the next few months!
Car looks and sounds mint, what gripper set up you going with?
Take it its a tran x your removing from the box then?
Good to have a poke round the car at the weekend and speak to you in regards to it, looking forward to seeing it get some abuse over the next few months!
Thanks mate, John at Gripper advises for a strong track setup for the diff, not the harshest they do as I still want occasional road use but next one down.
Great company to deal with, no nonsense, just facts and shipped it for arrival Saturday!!
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Box out, ready to be sent!!!
Fluid is brake cleaner
Hoping this is from the diff.......
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Taking it to Quaife in the morning, hoping they can explain!!
totalnova
14-07-19, 09:41 PM
Oh that doesn't look healthy
For the record the yellow man is ridiculous and I didn't even get out of the pits before removing it.
boffer8
15-07-19, 03:57 PM
Hoping this is from the diff.......
Taking it to Quaife in the morning, hoping they can explain!!
That looks like teeth edges or dog ring edges.... be interested to see inside..... :(
That looks like teeth edges or dog ring edges.... be interested to see inside..... :(
It's a long way for the dog ring edges to travel, if it is them, I wouldn't expect to see them in big chunks like that, I'd expect them to be pulverised.
The whole lot is super-finished too so would expect parts of the gear train/dog teeth to be polished, these chunks are really dull. Where as the diff is just normal, should find out soon enough.
I've told them I want photo evidence of where those bits are from!! They can't just tell me "oh it's this....." I want to see!!
It's done 1 trackday so whatever it is it's at their cost!!!
boffer8
16-07-19, 10:51 AM
Where is the magnet located?
I've seen Xtrac and quaife dog edges be like this on lower magnets from the sump...
Yes if superfinished should be mirror almost....
Photos will be very interesting and i would be surprised if they do... but id be pushing hard for it....
Totally agree... but Quaife have a way of putting it down to something they would deem beyond there control like oil type or something small and silly.... keep trying though and should get there... i know various people they have tried to fob off with things like this going wrong early in the products life...
Where is the magnet located?
Directly under the crown wheel and diff.
Let's see what they say! They know I'm not happy!!
If they claim oil type then I fail to see how an oil could cause the edges of teeth or dogs to break off.......we'll see I guess!!
In other news...
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JoeWak98
17-07-19, 09:47 PM
Changed my mind, ordered a gripper, will be with me Saturday, box and diff off to a Quaife approved specialist to be installed and back to me hopefully in time to go in the car for me to make it to Brands 23rd July
What ramp angles did you go for?? I’ve just got a gripper for my 1400 tarmac nova rally car and went for 45/90 & heavy preload. But untested yet!
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What ramp angles did you go for?? I’ve just got a gripper for my 1400 tarmac nova rally car and went for 45/90 & heavy preload. But untested yet!
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It's a secret!! Can't possibly say......... PM sent!!
Have you found your bonnet yet?
Have you found your bonnet yet?
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I never lost it!! Just ran without it as temps were getting high queuing between runs at VBOA
Have Quaife given you any estimation as to when they will respond to you with their cause?
are there any independent gearbox places you could take it to in case it ends up going down a legal route?
Have Quaife given you any estimation as to when they will respond to you with their cause?
are there any independent gearbox places you could take it to in case it ends up going down a legal route?
I guess there are independent places to take it. I'm not ready to go there just yet.
They've said they want atleast 4 weeks as a turnaround as they class this as "service" work.
If, however it needs a specific part manufactured then I guess it could be 10-12 weeks for that!!!
I don't see how they can say it's anything other than their problem, by their own admission this is a "motorsport" product that's done 20 trackday laps of Mallory park..........so if the box is screwed then that tells me it's certainly not fit for motorsport purpose!!
We know of 2 separate Hondas running this sequential box (albeit in a different casing), drag racing with nearly 700 horses without issue. I'm leaning towards it being completely diff related, hence the gripper diff purchase.
The issue I might have is it's 12 months old now, but I can easily show the progress of the car has meant that the box has only been "active" for 3-4 weeks but they don't offer warranty anyway so.....
Let's wait and see what they come back with before I get too bent out of shape.
Theresa big difference between no having a warranty and selling a product not fit for purpose. Was the original diff a quaife item?
Theresa big difference between no having a warranty and selling a product not fit for purpose. Was the original diff a quaife item?
Yes mate, well a Tran-X, which is ofcourse now owned by Quaife.
I find it interesting that when I sent the video of the wheel wobble after 4-5 laps to them, quaife told me they'd never ever ever seen anything like this before.......both John at Gripper and a Quaife approved independent gearbox specialist told me that this is a known problem with the Tran-X due to the offset plate layout. 5 one side 3 the other, instead of 4-4.
Doesn't explain the bits in the oil though........
I’ve been reading you build thread on this car for the start and I have to say hats off to you. So many unique parts and so much skill an time invested. I can only imagine your sense of achievement to finally get it on track an not be afraid to drive it as it was intended. Hopefully you get the teething problems sorted and really start enjoying it
I’ve been reading you build thread on this car for the start and I have to say hats off to you. So many unique parts and so much skill an time invested. I can only imagine your sense of achievement to finally get it on track an not be afraid to drive it as it was intended. Hopefully you get the teething problems sorted and really start enjoying it
Thanks mate.
I expected some issues so all is not lost. But it's looking a bit sorry for itself in the garage at the minute!!!
Be back together soon!!
Spoke to Quaife Friday and they've found an issue with the diff and part of the selector mechanism was dragging, which I think explains the crunch between 1st and 2nd.
They've said it's all their problem and asked me to bare with them whilst they engineer the solutions.
They are going to put it all back together with a "cutaway inspection case" so they can look inside and ensure they have everything as they'd like it.
To be fair to them although it's taken them 4 weeks to look they have admitted fault and are looking to make sure it's 100% correct before it comes back to me.
Some goodish news atleast.
Phew! Good theyve admitted liability, it couldve easily gone the other way as it does so often with the bigger manufacturers!
Phew! Good theyve admitted liability, it couldve easily gone the other way as it does so often with the bigger manufacturers!
To be honest mate I thought they were going to throw it back at me or ask for ££££ to fix it, but straight away they said "it's our fault, we'll sort it"
So a little relieved there!!
boffer8
27-08-19, 09:37 AM
Spoke to Quaife Friday and they've found an issue with the diff and part of the selector mechanism was dragging, which I think explains the crunch between 1st and 2nd.
They've said it's all their problem and asked me to bare with them whilst they engineer the solutions.
They are going to put it all back together with a "cutaway inspection case" so they can look inside and ensure they have everything as they'd like it.
To be fair to them although it's taken them 4 weeks to look they have admitted fault and are looking to make sure it's 100% correct before it comes back to me.
Some goodish news atleast.
Thats cracking news! Long time since ive heard them do something like this so sounds like it could be quite a tricky mistake.... Bet your looking forward to getting it back now knowing they should have sorted it
Sure am Boff!!! Picking it up tomorrow at about midday, so hoping to have a chat with them and see the bits that came out.
I'm away on holiday Sunday so not sure Ho much I'll get done with regard back in the car but I'll give it a go!!
I've heard or read somewhere that the basic off this gearbox was the Honda sequential were Quaife just added an Vauxhall bellhousing on it.
That would makes you think they had sorted problems like this as some Honda guys are running these gearboxes for some time now..
Are you still going to fit the Gripper diff?
boffer8
29-08-19, 08:53 AM
Sure am Boff!!! Picking it up tomorrow at about midday, so hoping to have a chat with them and see the bits that came out.
I'm away on holiday Sunday so not sure Ho much I'll get done with regard back in the car but I'll give it a go!!
Tidy! will be really interesting to hear/see(?) what they have been doing...
Knowing how fast you work it'll be back in and running by then! lol
So got home today from Quaife at 2pm
This was 8pm
https://youtu.be/WSBN83Ne5xE
Road test tomorrow
Quaife replaced 2nd gear and the 1-2 selector hub, which they also machined a little to give more clearance.
They think it wasn't picked up during their quality control, one of those things.
They fitted the gripper and have replaced all the plates in the Tran-x so I can sell it as new.
To be fair to them, they've been pretty good, could have charged me for everything but I was fair with them, didn't loose my temper which I think probably helped!!
The Simps
29-08-19, 11:22 PM
House! I've been reading through your build thread over the last few days (there is quite a lot of it! lol) and I have to give you credit for your commitment and thirst for constant improvement!
As for the latest version, I admire people like Ben who have such skills but also the vision. Between you both you have built an awesome car. If mine can end up even half as cool I'll be a happy Chappy.
I'm glad to here the gearbox issues are now resolved too.
Looking forward to seeing more trackway vids :)
House! I've been reading through your build thread over the last few days (there is quite a lot of it! lol)...........
I'm glad to here the gearbox issues are now resolved too.
Looking forward to seeing more trackway vids :)
Thanks mate,
I guess I just don't know when to call it a day on things, I should have stopped ages ago but you know how it is, I already want to change things on this car, boys gotta have their toys.
Box had to go in today as I'm off on holiday Sunday and I couldn't have relaxed knowing that the engine needed to go back in to see if the box works.
This way I hope I'll be able to chill and try and get a track day booked for the end of the week I'm back. That's the plan anyway!!
I guess it's all come a long way from the humble beginnings when I started this thread! This shell went to Ben for a roll cage and some seat mounts!! He's a bad influence!! But his skills are next level and he's shockingly handsome!!
I've heard or read somewhere that the basic off this gearbox was the Honda sequential were Quaife just added an Vauxhall bellhousing on it.
That would makes you think they had sorted problems like this as some Honda guys are running these gearboxes for some time now..
Are you still going to fit the Gripper diff?
Yes this is the Honda sequential with an F20 bell housing attached and F20 diff housing.
As for sorting the problems already I guess it's one of those things, quality control rejected part ends up in the production line. It happens.
I think the best thing I did was to not go in guns blazing and to try and work with them on it, they know I wanted it back and working, getting irate wouldn't have helped speed that process up, if anything it would have slowed it down cos they'd think I'm a nobhead. (Wait for Iain's comment).
Quaife fitted the Gripper diff for me whilst the box was apart so I'll be interested to see how that feels. They also fully re-built the tran x for me. Funnily enough I was told they prefer to fit Gripper LSD's or their own ATB. They're not a fan of the Tran X, despite it being a product they manufacture!!
Wish they'd told me that originally!!
Approximately 120 miles of road use done. Box feels loads better, still clunky out of 1st but no crunching into second.
I think I'll use the clutch 1-2 just to help it a little, I use the clutch on all downshifts anyway.
Diff feels really strong, no rattling or clattering like before.
First trackday booked 14/9/19 at Blyton Park. Bit of a trek for me but good circuit and most importantly my TSV support crew can be in attendance as it's their localish track
The Simps
02-09-19, 10:31 PM
Great news House!
Diff feels really strong, no rattling or clattering like before.
I did tell you to bosh in a Gripper from the start but know your reasons for the Tran-X. Does it feel like my diff when you had a blast round Blyton or have you not really had is 'working' on the road?
First trackday booked 14/9/19 at Blyton Park. Bit of a trek for me but good circuit and most importantly my TSV support crew can be in attendance as it's their localish track.
I'm only coming for the pizza as previous discussed, screw the cars.
Yeah hard to say until it's on track Harv but I'm looking forward to a proper test in it
Look forward to helping out...
...finish the garlic bread and ciders.
Look forward to helping out...
...finish the garlic bread and ciders.
No cider for you, you get too "touchy feely" on it
boffer8
11-09-19, 10:48 AM
So got home today from Quaife at 2pm
This was 8pm
https://youtu.be/WSBN83Ne5xE (https://youtu.be/WSBN83Ne5xE)
Road test tomorrow
Nice work.... knew you'd be on it like a car bonnet lol
Nice work.... knew you'd be on it like a car bonnet lol
Thanks big man!! I'll bang a video up as soon I'm back, assuming it all works!! Haha
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Pit crew working hard
Couple of videos from the end of the day yesterday.
Reasonably happy with the car, some changes and adjustments needed, as always!!
https://youtu.be/k7q-zfO2q1A
https://youtu.be/eRQPRkZ04JU (https://youtu.be/eRQPRkZ04JU)
totalnova
15-09-19, 02:21 PM
Those wheels look lovely House. lol
Car looks really good on track.
nova_niek
18-09-19, 11:41 AM
Couple of videos from the end of the day yesterday.
Reasonably happy with the car, some changes and adjustments needed, as always!!
https://youtu.be/eRQPRkZ04JU (https://youtu.be/eRQPRkZ04JU)
Ooooh the whine of straight cut gears. Love the sequential box.
Ooooh the whine of straight cut gears. Love the sequential box.
Yeah it's pretty cool, totally and utterly un-necessary and completely pointless but so is life!! Haha
Few small changes before the next outing, I've modified the shift cut now too to operate a full ignition cut
At Blyton it was only retarding the ignition 30 degrees which didn't feel like it fully unloaded the box, the full cut is loads better but not perfect, I'm hoping to have it running full closed loop shifting by the time I hit Cadwell on 13/10, but need a few wiring changes first.
I've also got a small upside down swirl pot arriving along with a facet lift pump, I think we're suffering fuelling issues below half a tank of fuel.
It's also possibly time to get the slicks and race wets mounted onto wheels and start using them.
So Cadwell 13/10, Snetterton 1/11 and hoping for Brands 11/11.
It looks like I'm gonna have a go at competing in the Javelin Sprint Series next year aswell.
novarally
18-09-19, 06:00 PM
I may be tempted by a Cadwell spectate then, haven’t managed to get there this year.
I may be tempted by a Cadwell spectate then, haven’t managed to get there this year.
Be great to put a face to your name Colin!!
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Pit crew working hard
I was weeing in your tank & Iain as usual was sitting in his chair wishing he had brought his Nova to a track he gets bored of after 5mins. You looked epic all day using your push to pass bullying technique, everything was just so slow compared to the super duper minty fast fresh hot sick slick red peril.
I was weeing in your tank & Iain as usual was sitting in his chair wishing he had brought his Nova to a track he gets bored of after 5mins. You looked epic all day using your push to pass bullying technique, everything was just so slow compared to the super duper minty fast fresh hot sick slick red peril.
That's a long hose to get it in the tank from there Harv!!
"I'm not interested in competing"
...does one trackday and is the fastest thing since cheese on toast...
"Lets do something competitive"
Popped up to Brands this evening to see a few pals who are on a bike trackday this weekend.
Sneaky sneaky to the end garage to use the weigh bridge!!
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That's with a full tank of fuel so I reckon 755kg empty.
We didn't have a target weight in mind but thought 750kg would be a good place to be so I'm reasonably happy with that.
Decent weight considering you've not gone mad and pinched every gram
_Tomiboy
24-09-19, 12:32 PM
I wondering every time how lighter is than my corsa B.
Some minor changes before Cadwell
Adding a swirl pot and lift pump
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All set to be plumbed in next week
boffer8
26-09-19, 02:12 PM
Love the inverted swirl pot....
Love the inverted swirl pot....
Off the shelf from Torques!! Holds about 1.5 litres, will be perfect I think.
Hmmmm just proof of concept, seeing if things will work
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boffer8
27-09-19, 10:56 AM
Looking good.... how have you spaced it down from the bumper?
How far back does it go?
Looking good.... how have you spaced it down from the bumper?
How far back does it go?
Spaced down about 60mm, from front to back it's around 400mm.
We plan to add an aluminium sheet onto the chassis brace to create a flat floor under the engine bay next
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It'll do for now
Looking good.... how have you spaced it down from the bumper?
How far back does it go?
Sorry mate!!! Misread your question
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These posts come down from the valence support bar we made you can see it here at the bottom of the pic
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We also made some rear supports that come from the tie bracket vertical bolts and translate across to the inside of the wings. I'll try and get some pics of those next time I remove the splitter.
Not Ben and I hung off the front and rear mountings and there's no flex in them at all so pretty happy they're strong enough.
novarally
29-09-19, 11:51 AM
Looking good, and glad to hear it's been built strong.
When I ran my Escort Cosworth in hillclimbs, the well-known aerodynamicist Simon McBeath had a look at my front splitter and told me that if it wasn't strong enough to stand on, then it wasn't going to work as it should. It wasn't as strong as that.
About 10 minutes later it tore off at about 100mph......
boffer8
30-09-19, 08:47 AM
Spaced down about 60mm, from front to back it's around 400mm.
We plan to add an aluminium sheet onto the chassis brace to create a flat floor under the engine bay next
How are you going to vent the bay then if you close off the floor? will you not suffer from air stacking?
Brackets look really good, i like how it protrudes forward yet you have the support still
How are you going to vent the bay then if you close off the floor? will you not suffer from air stacking?
Brackets look really good, i like how it protrudes forward yet you have the support still
We'll see, we're planning on adding a central vent in the skirt above the splitter to blow directly onto the manifold, that air should exit between the brace and the chassis as it's not sealed there. I've also not got no upper bulkhead lip where the original wiper mounts and the air that comes in the front past the radiator can exit out of the vents below the screen
New tank modified ready for install
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Added AN6 feed and returns and also a drain plug as it's always a pain to drain the tank if you need to.
I couldn't find an original nova level sensor so decided to go with one of the solid float type from CBS, as usual, needed some work to get it in and working
The Simps
03-10-19, 08:02 PM
Fancy!
brainsnova
04-10-19, 03:08 AM
Nice welding
What time do you reckon you’ll finish at Snetterton as it’s my home track and I’d love to come an have a nosey round this car
What time do you reckon you’ll finish at Snetterton as it’s my home track and I’d love to come an have a nosey round this car
Well I'm hoping we'll be there all day mate, don't tend to pack up too early unless there are issues or we're out of fuel (although Snet has fuel so that won't be issue) so likelihood is we'll still be there at 4.30-5 or whenever the day ends.
Nice welding
All Ben's work!! I make the bits, he welds them together!!
Few little updates before Cadwell on Sunday.
Popped over to see Mitch at Pro-line and we sorted the plumbing for the swirl pot
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Put less than 2 litres in the tank and it fired up and ran which is mega, just need to re-set the level sender settings and we're done.
Added these residual pressure valves to help prevent pad knock back
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One for the front brakes right near the M/c, as we think the issue is up front. Also added one for the rear brakes too. Both hold 2psi in the line to prevent the fluid from draining back and allowing the pistons to retract. Time will tell if this is successful.
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All set for tomorrow!!!
totalnova
13-10-19, 01:00 AM
Look forward to the videos.
Nick
Look forward to the videos.
Nick
Scared
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It is smashing it down
Got a few videos but it is properly terrifying.
Told you it was scary
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Proper video to follow when my laptop stops being a dick
torquey
14-10-19, 07:44 AM
Does look scary lol. Hope the damage was mininimal!
Does look scary lol. Hope the damage was mininimal!
It was a good hit!!
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We pulled the front wings off of the wheels, ripped the splitter and valence off and I went straight back out.
Tracks straight, brakes in a straight line. Felt fine, Ben seems to have made a strong car, the barrier there is especially soft too, it's got massive foam pads infront of the tyres to protect the bikers when they crash. Radiator took a whack and it's a little bit bent but still holds pressure.
I also hit right on the join of the barrier where the access road is so the barrier was extra thick there!!
I drove the car from where it crashed back to the pits, which I was pretty amazed by!!
Proper video
https://youtu.be/4vvZr9bBJZE
Wow that looked a pretty bloody hard impact. I’m impressed how calm you were after the impact!
glad it’s not too badly damaged
Wow that looked a pretty bloody hard impact. I’m impressed how calm you were after the impact!
glad it’s not too badly damaged
I'll be honest mate, no Adrenalin hit as I was going in, no shakes afterwards I was angry as I was going in cos I just thought "you total C**T, you've Fucked your new shell"
it was a good hit.
I can't recommend the HANS device enough, best £800 I've ever spent. That was a pretty hard stop and no neck pain at all today.
Got a bit of crash analysis coming up!!
So, I've reviewed the videos and discovered the following, sorry for images it was the best way I could get the pictures and pause it quickly enough.
Lap before the crash
Still on the gas at 3
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Well on the brakes by 2.5
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Crash lap
Still on the gas at 2.25
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Brake at 2
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I can't explain it other than to say that the 2 is my "safe" braking marker in the dry, can't think why!! Perhaps it was the chocolate brownie I ate for lunch........
Adopt the position, cross the arms!!
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It was at this point I thought, "have I filed the company VAT return"
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Little bit of front airbornedness
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So there we have it!! New wings are into paint today, indicators in their way to me, need to sort a new front valence and some driving skills before Snetterton 1/11/19
Words cannot express my feelings when you limped back in and I realised you'd ruined that nice front bumper.
I think I was surprisingly upbeat
But the damage is minimal considering the impact
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totalnova
14-10-19, 11:12 PM
Guess the car wanted rid of that front splitter lol
But on a serious note, glad you and the car are not too badly damaged, could have been a lot worse considering the speed you went off at.
Nick.
Guess the car wanted rid of that front splitter lol
But on a serious note, glad you and the car are not too badly damaged, couldn't have been a lot worse considering the speed you went off at.
Nick.
Big time mate!!! Snetterton in a few weeks!!
Some official Cadwell 13/10/2019 snaps
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torquey
17-10-19, 10:47 PM
Looking great again love the pics..
nova_niek
21-10-19, 02:05 PM
Looking great again love the pics..
+1
Nice pics indeed. :thumb:
NovalutionGSi
22-10-19, 07:23 AM
Awesome pictures, looks like it's going to take off up the hill.
What time are you at Snetterton from on the 1st? Might try and pop in to say hi before work.
boffer8
22-10-19, 08:51 AM
Great pics, front splitter makes it look really mean.... nice :thumb:
Great pics, front splitter makes it look really mean.... nice :thumb:
Busted now!!! Hahaha
Awesome pictures, looks like it's going to take off up the hill.
What time are you at Snetterton from on the 1st? Might try and pop in to say hi before work.
We'll be there from Thursday night.
stevep1
27-10-19, 12:09 PM
I am currently working away and have read this over the course of the week. while I have heard of hangar 30 on various forums ive never realized such amazing quality of work was done there. I literally live five minutes from the place too, and the Edwards motorsport exhaust was top work. will def be remembering that for future work. you have really spurned me on to get mine back driving again now. the cars turned out great
I am currently working away and have read this over the course of the week. while I have heard of hangar 30 on various forums ive never realized such amazing quality of work was done there. I literally live five minutes from the place too, and the Edwards motorsport exhaust was top work. will def be remembering that for future work. you have really spurned me on to get mine back driving again now. the cars turned out great
Thanks mate, Ben is awesome!!
The Simps
05-11-19, 04:29 PM
How was Snetterton house?
How was Snetterton house?
Scary mate, really not happy in the wet, tyres felt awful.
I've just ordered some Michillen P2L full wets.
I have just booked brands for 11/11/19 and that's set to be wet, I'm also going to get the car for a 4 wheel align to check where it's at as I'm not convinced the setup is where I want it.
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I was at brands on Monday spectating with a few friends doing a trackday, one of them was using the P2L's on his corsa and coming in from a soaking track after a 15 min session and the tyres were hot and sticky so I fancy a bit of that.
I can't seem to switch on the yoko's that I've been using but I'm assured these P2L's are the wet tyres to use. We'll see.
Few things to report on the car, pit lane limiter is now fully working, as is the dash2 page flip function button! Little things!!
My gear oil cooler seems to have died but I've got a new one on order and I need to get the temp sensor into the box some how.
nova_niek
11-11-19, 06:03 AM
I was at brand on Monday spectating with a few friends doing a trackday, one of them was using the P2L's on his corsa and coming in from a soaking track after a 15 min session and the tyres were hot and sticky so I fancy a bit of that.
Sounds like Michelin P2L's are the tyre to have. Not that I'm heavily into track days, but I'll make a mental note of these tyres. Cheers!
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Sounds like Michelin P2L's are the tyre to have. Not that I'm heavily into track days, but I'll make a mental note of these tyres. Cheers!
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I'm all set for today, damp track this morning. I'll let you know how they feel
P2L’s are the tyre to be on in the rain!!
Managed a 1:02 at Brands on a damp track.
Got black flagged for noise just before lunch which put a
dampener on things!!
Little video, barely more than half throttle at any point in the video as they told me another black flag would end the day.
I had the legs on the GTR but couldn't use full throttle cos of the noise!!!!
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Little bonus video
NovalutionGSi
19-11-19, 05:35 PM
Love those videos House, even some on power oversteer too.
Wasnt a nice day for Snetterton, hence why I didn't show my face. It's like being at Santa pod when it's raining there.
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Love those videos House, even some on power oversteer too.
Wasnt a nice day for Snetterton, hence why I didn't show my face. It's like being at Santa pod when it's raining there.
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Hahaha I remember that on power oversteer just after I passed the RS3!! It's so controllable in the dry and power solves everything!!
The diff is great, really recommend the Gripper, being able to turn in and power to the apex just feels immense.
As for Snet, I've never had a dry session there!!! Need to do a summer day!!
NovalutionGSi
20-11-19, 07:24 AM
Looks it.
Certainly try Snet in the summer, can then get the other problem, too much heat. I was there watching the touring cars on the friday with the temp up at 34 degrees. Lol
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Few minor little things.
Went back up to track and road to check a few bits and bobs.
First up was noise reduction, I used this at Cadwell previously and wanted to check it didn't affect the AFR as sometimes air boxes can cause problems
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Pleased to report no change at all and although it's hard to check when inside it did reduce the decibel meter reading by a few decibels so we'll see what happens
Another little plus was that we actually made 250.6bhp but slightly less torque but I'll take 250bhp however I can get it!
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Jim and Steve said fuelling is very very safe and with a bit of leaning 255+ would be achievable!!
So, air feed for the air box, hose is too long as I've got a reverie airbox on order and don't want to cut it down yet, headlight needs painting, both temporary solutions to see if it makes a difference
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Also, crash damage repair!!
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Might see if I can get a brands day in next week see if any of it has made a difference.
New front lower spoiler neded ASAP
New front lower spoiler neded ASAP
All in good time my man!! Haha
Splitter Mk2 is in process
Good video house,gotta say it would have got my juices going playing with that gtr on track I’d have been grinning ear to ear
Playing with that gtr would have got my juices going bud I’d have been grinning ear to ear
Awsome build thread be reading this on and of for a while the attention to details second to none for a track car , s**t about your wee off on the track
Awsome build thread be reading this on and of for a while the attention to details second to none for a track car , s**t about your wee off on the track
Haha thanks mate!! Learning requires mistakes!!
Got my proper air box from reverie fitted up.
Mega impressed, lovely looking bit of kit, had to offset it to the left to clear the dry sump tank but it's there.
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Hoping that kills the noise.
New rocker cover on trial. See how we get on.
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Thats some course weave on the airbox spacer :D love it
novarally
02-12-19, 02:33 PM
Very nice indeed, always love Reverie stuff, and the cam cover is cool too.
What coilpacks are those?
Very nice indeed, always love Reverie stuff, and the cam cover is cool too.
What coilpacks are those?
Hella coils to fit a Ford Duratec, as advised by SBD.
I can probably find euro car parts stock number if you're interested Colin??
novarally
02-12-19, 08:12 PM
Hella coils to fit a Ford Duratec, as advised by SBD.
I can probably find euro car parts stock number if you're interested Colin??
Thanks, I hadn’t seen those used before.
Did you wire up yourself? I’ve got the Yaris coilpacks for mine, which a lot of people use, but not got them wired in yet.
New cam cover is loads better. Red is a winner too
New cam cover is loads better. Red is a winner too
Because you like it, I'm going to remove it and sell it.
Thanks, I hadn’t seen those used before.
Did you wire up yourself? I’ve got the Yaris coilpacks for mine, which a lot of people use, but not got them wired in yet.
Yeah I made the loom, it still needs to be shortened on the coil pack cables because my plugs didn't arrive in time so I had to butcher an old S40 loom I had.
nova_niek
12-12-19, 03:56 AM
New rocker cover on trial. See how we get on.
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Thanks mate
TSV Back at it
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Enjoy bitches
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