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RallyMarshal
23-02-17, 09:55 AM
Im very disappointed in this update. The comments on Iains thread led me to believe there would be an element of shonkiness and I cannot find it..
In seriousness, how does the fuel level sender unit fit onto the Nova tank for the new gauge?
Paul..
Im very disappointed in this update. The comments on Iains thread led me to believe there would be an element of shonkiness and I cannot find it..
In seriousness, how does the fuel level sender unit fit onto the Nova tank for the new gauge?
Paul..
Paul, as you well know and Iain is fond of telling everyone, everything I do is half arsed and shonky to some degree!!!
I'm running a tank in the boot in this shell so it's an aftermarket float sender.
I'll be changing all this in the new shell, back to standard location as it's a lot better
Full time Shonky coming up!!
Home early from work, wife out in London tonight, few hours in the garage.
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I had one of these ages ago but it was rubbish so ditched it, this one is proper
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Even added an earth strap, thanks Brucer for the heads up on using the back of the alternator!!!
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This was red, changed it to black cos Iain's little brain couldn't deal with an earth being red!!
Then got a bit bolt happy
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I think they look loads better!!
I also managed to move my seat by tipping it forward, moving it down one hole at the front that allowed me to move it back 40mm and it's still clear of the roll cage, legs feel so much better now!! I just need to bring the wheel a bit closer to me again, will look at another spacer.
Brake fluid change tomorrow and get the trackday box ready and we're all good for Coombe on the 3rd March.
nova_niek
23-02-17, 08:19 PM
Progress! Love the updates, lots of laughs while reading this. Keep it up Mr. House.
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turbojolt
23-02-17, 08:37 PM
Amazing iain can ignore his mismatched coloured car but can't ignore a red earth cable
Amazing iain can ignore his mismatched coloured car but can't ignore a red earth cable
Bang!! Knife in the jugular!!!!
turbojolt
23-02-17, 08:43 PM
No one can see but I'm dabbing so hard
LEWI007
24-02-17, 06:28 PM
I need some of those bolts youve used for fastening the wings and bonnet, what size are they ? id probably get some stainless ones off ebay.
I need some of those bolts youve used for fastening the wings and bonnet, what size are they ? id probably get some stainless ones off ebay.
M6 mate, I gently ran a tap down the holes that way the existing clips are retained. It's possible to get to the underside and use nuts on all of but the very front corner ones.
These are stainless bolts, I need some stainless spring washers and penny washers!!
Did a few things today, update coming once I get home!!!
So I started the day with a nice little drive out, waste a bit of fuel!!
When I got home I decided I hated my fuel tank location!! Iain constantly belittles me about how it was mounted and how it looks so I thought I'd do something to make it look better!!
Before
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After
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And no fire, which is a bonus!!
I need to order some different fittings and I want to get a different lift pump, low pressure high volume, but it all works as is and looks loads better than before, plus lower COG which always helps!!
Onto my next little idea
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Lambda bung was a twat to get out!!! Had to weld a foot long piece of angle to it!! Then cut it off cos it won't spinout without hitting stuff!!
All in an effort to get this working
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My little AFR!! I know it's not really a reference figure you would use but if for any reason we end up lean I'll possibly be able to see before real disaster strikes.
Still didn't get my brake fluid changed or the trackday box sorted........maybe need to do that Sunday!!
That tank is so much better down there.
LEWI007
25-02-17, 07:33 PM
Fuel tank is alot tidier, i like how this car started off pretty basic and now its pretty well specced
Fuel tank is alot tidier, i like how this car started off pretty basic and now its pretty well specced
I've got a new pump and fittings on order to tidy it up more and finish it off!!
I'm finally getting it close to where I want it!! Just in time to rip it apart and start on the new shell!!!
Few little bits today!!
Iain suggested switching to a special shifter turret that he claims would "revolutionise my gear change experience" he found me one at an old car deconstruction centre. He told me he'd cleaned it prior to my collection Saturday evening, needless to say he hadn't, he's such a let down. He didn't even have any biscuits for me to gorge myself on. Anyway I digress.
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Cleaned, heated and painted.
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Installed, I ditched the pin and went with an 8mm bolt, it has a nice long shank so it'll hopefully keep slop a minimum.
It is loads better, looking at an internal shifter as my next step.
I also got the scrubbing brush out and scrubbed the back of the car to get as much of the grime that seems to have stuck to everything off, looks a little better.
Did a brake fluid change, running Motul something or other, see how it fairs.
Ordered up some tubing to make some caliper end mounts for my brake ducting
Few engine bay shots. Can't believe it looked like this when I got the car 3 and a bit years ago!!!
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Back to the present!!
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Ungrateful is an understatement.
Ungrateful is an understatement.
Think of it that he's so 'mean' because he's hiding his true feeling towards you....
ps did you paint the cam cover "white"?
Mxcrazy
26-02-17, 11:24 PM
Whats the turret then? Is it off a later f17 style, with an 'H' pattern cast in to the inside and 'pin' on the 'finger'. I know the cable style f17 ones are like that.
ps did you paint the cam cover "white"?
Shit!! You kill me, we stuck it in the hot wash to get the carbon out the inside!! Ironically we did that rather than acid bath it to try and preserve the paint!! Needless to say, we failed.
Whats the turret then? Is it off a later f17 style, with an 'H' pattern cast in to the inside and 'pin' on the 'finger'. I know the cable style f17 ones are like that.
I don't know in truth which box it's off, Iain suggests these mods, I cry about trying to find the parts and he then goes and gets them for me!! He's my little shining star!!
But yes it does have the little detents inside which give it a much more positive engagement.
Back from Havant near Portsmouth early today, picked up my brake ducting from Argos, eBay delivered it there!! Decided I'd had enough of this pikey solution
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Well actually, Big Al saw it and as I'm sure you can predict said it was a "pile of shit"
So I set about making something a bit more substantial
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51mm OD exhaust pipe, flattened out a little with a hammer
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Rather happy with that!! Directs the air directly to the centre of the disc, narrowing the outlet slightly might speed the air a touch aswell, let's see, I know they work as I had them at Mallory and it solved a host of braking problems and yes I painted them properly before installation!!
_Tomiboy
28-02-17, 07:16 AM
Nice installation, I must do similar. If i drive on longer track the discs are blue. :)
Hang the fuck on. You came to Havant and didn't come the 5mins more to see you?
Loving the progress, tanks looks much better sunk down, the brake cooling tube is a great way. That should help alot.
Hang the fuck on. You came to Havant and didn't come the 5mins more to see you?
Sorry mate!! Was piss wet through from the rain!!!
Few little things worked out today. Found a wiring diagram online for wipers, I've been having to manually park the wipers which is bloody boring!!
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Made the little loom up this evening and tested it, all works, on fast second speed too!! Will get it all wired in properly tomorrow!!
Joined Craig at a very very wet Castle Coombe on Friday.
For some reason my heated screen refused to de-mist, I think it's screwed!!
No drama, brake ducting borrowed
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Did the job perfectly, de-misted the screen, meant all was not ruined!!
Amazing how much front end grip the Rainsports offered, really felt confident in the car. Few little tickles out of the last corner Camp as it was really slippery with both a Clio and an RX7 smashing into the barrier in a big way in the morning.
Also collected my new windows!!
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New seals required for the front but I've got a little plan for those. Rears in, looking fresh.
Also decided that my seat was far too high, 9 inch grinder came out, added some new 30x30x3mm box and that went in well, levelled the car up as best as I could and as such the seat rails went in level, just need my weld in inserts to properly keep the seat in place.
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Seats were level before, bout 30mm lower and even further back now too, got to sort something with the steering wheel next, get it lower and closer to me
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New front brake lines to go on, little link to get them away from the wheel as I've had the current ones rub on the inside of the wheel!!! These will be loads better.
Few sneak peaks of what's happening next weekend
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Need the bigger discs, will swap those out at Euros tomorrow, then get the lines fitted up, might not have the handbrake fitted but will hopefully have it all ready and aligned for Cadwell, worst case Ben has done a good job of getting it straight and square so could run Cadwell without getting it 4 wheel aligned.
Ordered all the cap head bolts and got some lovely SS brake fittings and PVC coated SS Braided lines, will have fun making that this week.
That beam is giving me the horn!
That beam is giving me the horn!
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BRoadGhost
20-03-17, 10:41 PM
That'll work wonders
8valve-craig
21-03-17, 07:07 AM
Looks like mine. Yours is probably better though if it was made by Ben at Hangar 30.
Looks like mine. Yours is probably better though if it was made by Ben at Hangar 30.
Yeah it was, yours is better as it's made by you!! I have to pay people to make things!!
Looks like mine. Yours is probably better though if it was made by Ben at Hangar 30.
His looks like yours? Whose was built first? [emoji12]
8valve-craig
21-03-17, 08:54 AM
His looks like yours? Whose was built first? [emoji12]
Not sure, but at a guess the one that VW Motorsport made back in the early 80's?
Not sure, but at a guess the one that VW Motorsport made back in the early 80's?
Hahaha love it!!!
Love the beam, how much did it set you back by?
I've been tempted to buy the ARB and make up some mounting plates and weld them to my beam, but was unsure if I'd then need the rose jointed arms for triangulation strength?
Love the beam, how much did it set you back by?
I've been tempted to buy the ARB and make up some mounting plates and weld them to my beam, but was unsure if I'd then need the rose jointed arms for triangulation strength?
The beam cost enough!! Well into 4 figures after sourcing the beam, new discs, pads, calipers, wheel bearings, handbrake cables, all new braided lines, fittings and clamps and the work carried out but it's proper!!
The rear ARB is a Saab effort, 9-3 i believe, available from Ebay I'm sure it's BMC motorsport that sell them.
You don't need the triangulation with an ARB, what the triangulation is trying to eliminate is unwanted toe and camber changes mid corner. Camber more than toe in truth. The additional ARB just stiffens the flimsy beam up.
Doesn't look like it'll be done for Cadwell now as the calipers are 7/16-20 UNF inlets instead of M10x1 as I'd predicted, new ones on order but I'm running out of time.
I see how it will prevent or hugely reduce the toe change, but as it's bracing at the bottom of the arm, I can't see how a camber change will be prevented.
I see how it will prevent or hugely reduce the toe change, but as it's bracing at the bottom of the arm, I can't see how a camber change will be prevented.
The camber change is, hopefully, prevented by that fact the ends of the beam can't twist as they are now braced below the wheel centre line.
Could it give them more chance to twist as the moment of movement is no longer going into toe and camber, but camber only?
I'm sure it's been thought through well but to my idiot eyes it doesn't look like it solves all the ailments listed. Granted we are starting with a shit design in the first place so that won't help lol
Could it give them more chance to twist as the moment of movement is no longer going into toe and camber, but camber only?
I'm sure it's been thought through well but to my idiot eyes it doesn't look like it solves all the ailments listed. Granted we are starting with a shit design in the first place so that won't help lol
I think the idea is that there is a support below the beam now so if we imagine looking end on at the beam from the back of the wheel we currently have an L where the bracing turns that into a T (please imagine that the T is on it's side as I can't put on it's side here) then imagine the bottom of the T is connected to the long part of the T with the wheel bolted to the top of the T.
It must help prevent movement around the pivot point/centre of the T
Well atleast I hope it does!!!!
8valve-craig
22-03-17, 11:10 PM
The best thing to do House is test it for yourself. I used to get tyre witness marks on the inner and outer arches, yet nothing near contact throughout bump static.
Im still on the fence as I went up a tyre size since fitting, but can let you know soon. Only had a wet day on 205's since as you know.
The best thing to do House is test it for yourself. I used to get tyre witness marks on the inner and outer arches, yet nothing near contact throughout bump static.
Im still on the fence as I went up a tyre size since fitting, but can let you know soon. Only had a wet day on 205's since as you know.
Well unfortunately it's doesn't look like I've time to get this on before Cadwell.
I too have inner arch tyre marks yet plenty of clearance when static testing.
I'll be interested to know your feedback once you've used it on a dry day!!
BRoadGhost
23-03-17, 08:08 AM
It'll make the front feel sharper; better turn in & following stability.
The beam cost enough!! Well into 4 figures after sourcing the beam, new discs, pads, calipers, wheel bearings, handbrake cables, all new braided lines, fittings and clamps and the work carried out but it's proper!!
The rear ARB is a Saab effort, 9-3 i believe, available from Ebay I'm sure it's BMC motorsport that sell them.
You don't need the triangulation with an ARB, what the triangulation is trying to eliminate is unwanted toe and camber changes mid corner. Camber more than toe in truth. The additional ARB just stiffens the flimsy beam up.
Doesn't look like it'll be done for Cadwell now as the calipers are 7/16-20 UNF inlets instead of M10x1 as I'd predicted, new ones on order but I'm running out of time.
Ahh tidy, well i've got a couple of spare beams and some time so I may try make one myself.
brainsnova
23-03-17, 04:50 PM
Amazing iain can ignore his mismatched coloured car but can't ignore a red earth cable
Its not technically correct that's why lol red is + in a nova
Its not technically correct that's why lol red is + in a nova
It's a cable, it carries voltage, I know what voltage it carries, the colour is irrelevant!!
Bolts arrived today for the beam so thought I'd have a crack at it.
Bolts for holding the bearings on are wrong, the shank is far too long, re-ordered, should be here Tuesday
Got one side done, threw a wheel on to check the clearance to it and make sure it'll work.
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Pretty pleased with most of that. The lines will stay as a separate feed for both left and right for now but it'll be changing to a single flexi to the beam and a T piece on the beam itself for when this moves to the new shell.
Rear discs are also huge at 264mm but the pads are teeny!!! Handbrake will be a mash up for Nova and combo van, if I can re-rope a lift I'm almost certain I can figure out a handbrake setup that will work!!
Track and Road Wednesday for a little map tune, then up to see my partner in crime and off to our little house we're renting for Wednesday night, it's got a hot tub!! Then Cadwell Thursday morning!!
Car is pretty much ready, new front flexis going in tomorrow and re-instate the passenger brake ducting. Seat is in it's new lower position so I'm looking forward to trying that and first time at Cadwell on slicks, Vbox will defo be on, see if we can get below 1.50!!!
Wow long post, mostly waffle.
BRoadGhost
25-03-17, 10:00 PM
Didn't see before it runs a double bar per corner; be interesting to see the underside if at all possible?
Didn't see before it runs a double bar per corner; be interesting to see the underside if at all possible?
Double bar per corner??
That's the secondary ARB. Photos incoming
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Not the easiest to make out cos the lights are cold and the background is messy will dig some more out tomorrow
BRoadGhost
26-03-17, 05:42 PM
Looks like 1st rate work; if anything the new ARB looks to be adding spring rate & weight, where the links are perfectly engineered for lateral strength. Could try without the ARB say in the wet?
Looks like 1st rate work; if anything the new ARB looks to be adding spring rate & weight, where the links are perfectly engineered for lateral strength. Could try without the ARB say in the wet?
Very easy to remove for that very test.
Iain and I were discussing it different things we can change while at the track.
Ben's work is first rate, the only words to describe it, can't wait to see all results of the shell prep.
The House Man living it large today at Cadwell. Passenger ride was AWESOME, car feels lovely and punchy and solid out there with the rebuilt lump no longer smoking like a steam train.
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Few crappy laps for those that care
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The first sweeping down tight right corner looks fun.
Great video. Cant wait to see you out in the new build.
nova_niek
31-03-17, 07:25 PM
Cadwell seems a nice and winding little track. Would like to have a go there myself. Enjoyed the onboard footage! 👍
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BRoadGhost
31-03-17, 08:10 PM
Sooo.... How does it feel?
Cadwell seems a nice and winding little track. Would like to have a go there myself. Enjoyed the onboard footage! [emoji106]
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It's is, they call it the mini Nurburgring!!
The beam wasn't on Ghost, it's literally just gone on this evening.
Just need to solve the air in the rear lines, handbrake is sorted and works
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Little adjuster I made, threw it on, to see if it works.
Quite happy with most of that!!
New shell update
Collected from Ben and got it home!!
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Gonna call the blasters Monday and get it booked in, should be with them in 2 weeks time
Brakes look fapping huge!! And work rather too well, locking the rears!! Need a .75 rear MC, will order one up.
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I'll never tire of looking under there and seeing this!!
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Feels really sharp, like it wants to turn in, I'm hoping on the slicks it'll feel a bit more planted at the rear. I've added some front damping and softened the rear as far as I dare, will need to play around with the shocks and damping.
Will need to get the geo measured so I can add some rear camber, hoping to see 3 degrees as I'm still getting rubber rolling up in the middle of the rears. All good fun
the new rear axle looks good!
don't you have a brake proportioning valve? that can maybe sort the rear brakes from locking up..
by the look of the wheelnuts you will be needing some longer wheel studs too..
the new rear axle looks good!
don't you have a brake proportioning valve? that can maybe sort the rear brakes from locking up..
by the look of the wheelnuts you will be needing some longer wheel studs too..
Wheel studs are fine,plenty of penetration on them, as for the proportioning valve, Iain and I are just discussing that very thing!!
Iirc something like green threads is all you need for a secure enough fixing, so those nuts are fine in my book lol
you need to be cunning about the valve as some are rate adjustable from a single fixed point, which might be above the point you need it limiting. A bigger bore mc would help reduce the rear pressure
the proportioning valve
My Astra is running an adjustable one in my pedal box setup in-line to the rears, retaining the .700 rear m/c giving me infinite adjustment. Car feels lovely and balanced with the .625 front. I'm running 285mm front Hi-Spec 4 pots and stock rear Astra GTE 16v discs with the stock ATE two pots.
This one will do you click me (http://www.advantage-motorsport.co.uk/obp-brake-bias-proprtioning-valve-screw-type.html?gclid=CM6Uk-2NiNMCFXgz0wodPeYPRA). You can twist my knob anytime ;)
BRoadGhost
03-04-17, 08:27 PM
It's all relative with pads, disk sizes, calipers, MCs & bias etc to get it not locking rears; try not to tempt a rear bias as fun as it seems because it'll stop you dancing mid corner / on entry & just put the car in backwards! Beam looks great; you might find something like a 250LBs/inch long spring with dampers set to soft being the ideal now that it has the lateral strength.
It's all relative with pads, disk sizes, calipers, MCs & bias etc to get it not locking rears; try not to tempt a rear bias as fun as it seems because it'll stop you dancing mid corner / on entry & just put the car in backwards! Beam looks great; you might find something like a 250LBs/inch long spring with dampers set to soft being the ideal now that it has the lateral strength.
Softer springs are on the list for purchase, can change them in 20 mins so will take them to the next track day. I think I'm running 350's on the rear now, it's does feel a little disconnected at the rear, would like to try it with slicks before panicking!!
As for the brakes, the .75 M/C is on it's way, I'll throw this on and Iain has offered me the lend of his bias valve so I'm gonna see how the .75 works and go from there.
.75 m/c fitted this evening, just need to get the fittings for the bias valve and I can get that inline aswell
Shell dropped off at the blasters
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When I was at T&R getting mapped, the boys suggested a proper bonnet vent/scoop. As I'd already had a drilling session it wasn't possible to make a recessed hidden one so I set out to find the most offensive one I could.
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Mission accomplished!! It looks fucking awful.
Still I set about getting it on
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Even filed the edges of the hole and gently countersunked the mounting bolt holes.
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Intentionally offset to be directly over the bodies.
Yes yes it silver, yes yes it looks awful, Iain has already told me. However function dictates form, if it works it works.
Can't test it though my air temp sensor has eaten itself, either that or the engine loom has another break in it. Will be making my own one for the new shell.
Love the scoopage, colour works perfectly like like like.
Is a bit subtle
You've met me, subtle is my middle name!!!
Nothing wrong with a bonnet scoop:thumb:
Thanks boys, I thought it would garner negative reviews
Thanks boy, I thought it would garner negative reviews
It's a track car ,built for a purpose not to look pretty ,got to admit though I had to fit mine centrally my OCD couldn't cope with it being offset
It's a track car ,built for a purpose not to look pretty ,got to admit though I had to fit mine centrally my OCD couldn't cope with it being offset
Well here's the thing, it's central to the throttle bodies!! So...it's central to the item it's intending to serve, that's how I justify it atleast!!! Hahaaha
TBH I'm a little disappointed that it's not a wrx scoop
TBH I'm a little disappointed that it's not a wrx scoop
Don't even go there.
Nobhead
Or
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Or
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Got one on order!!!
As one for a roof scoop for ventilation
As one for a roof scoop for ventilation
I do need a roof vent, it's like a sauna in the summer
turbojolt
09-04-17, 01:01 AM
Hiddious shameful scoop, vomited in my mouth twice then sharted due to cringing to hard
nova_niek
09-04-17, 10:04 AM
Hiddious shameful scoop, vomited in my mouth twice then sharted due to cringing to hard
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Sent from my Nokia 6310i using the keypad
BRoadGhost
09-04-17, 10:42 AM
I had a fiberglass replica scoop like that bonded up from the underside many moons ago. Function wise yes a good move but (me being me now) buying two, cutting & bonding for a wider equal width could cause gasps!
Scoop looks like, should ram nice cold air in.
I like that it's offset, makes people realise what a piece of shit it is!!!
nova_stee
09-04-17, 07:41 PM
Have you not thought about a massive fuck off rear wing to push back end down
Have you not thought about a massive fuck off rear wing to push back end down
Surely, you jest??
Not on my watch pal!!! Hahaha
RallyMarshal
10-04-17, 07:55 AM
I like it... though body colour would improve it...
Be aware though, they dont tend to push that much air into the bodies at that location due to the air pressure. The main reason I have one is to allow hot air to escape from the engine bay when stationary..
Paul..
They dont tend to push that much air into the bodies at that location due to the air pressure.
Tim and I discussed this very thing on Friday evening, we're going to come up with something for the new shell I think. Maybe an inlet plenum with a proper cold air feed not 100% on it yet.
I've already started to plan the dash setup we're going to make
RallyMarshal
10-04-17, 12:27 PM
Protec do a cold air feed that picks up air from the leading edge of the bonnet...
http://pro-tecmotorsport.com/parts/product/engine-transmission-parts/corsa-b-nova-air-induction-kit/
Paul..
turbojolt
10-04-17, 05:24 PM
If it was me the cowling would be attached to the bodies and up and out of the skuttle panel
The scuttle is fairly low pressure, but fresh and cold so could be a winner if you aren't trying to fanny about with ram air
Ram air..... Derbyshires latest airline taking you away from the horrors of northern life to excellent destinations such as Baghdad, Aleppo and a gulag in Siberia
If it was me the cowling would be attached to the bodies and up and out of the skuttle panel
This is exactly what Tim and I are discussing, sealed into the back of the bonnet/scuttle area
Vent works!! Loads of air moving around the bay, at 40mph I could feel significant amounts air blowing around my legs, with the vent taped over (very scientificly) that breeze was virtually non existent.
Just to clarify I have a hole that my clutch cable passes through, this is where the air comes through into the cabin, I have just ordered some bungs to fill said hole, something I haven't got round to until now.
Proper test results once the new air temp sensor is fitted.
Protec do a cold air feed that picks up air from the leading edge of the bonnet...
http://pro-tecmotorsport.com/parts/product/engine-transmission-parts/corsa-b-nova-air-induction-kit/
Paul..
Had a fiberglass one on a Corsa B a few years back. Well over priced from ProTec. I got mine from Magnum Motorsport who make them for ProTec then done a wet dob overlay with carbon kevlar.
Surely, you jest??
Not on my watch pal!!! Hahaha
Aero works alot tho... Chassis mounted...
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New discs bolted to some bells borrowed from a friend until he can manufacture me some proper ones
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Calipers are back, hopefully they'll be with me next weekend then I just need to fit them!! Oh and buy some wheels that will fit over them!!
Oooooooooooooooooo that's a very nice looking brake set up.
Oooooooooooooooooo that's a very nice looking brake set up.
Hoping it'll perform better than the hi-specs!!
Using your ballsack would be better than lospecs
i think everyone i've seen says the Alcon are one of the best.
turbojolt
27-04-17, 07:49 PM
Hispec seem to be a aesthetic mod from what people say. Hopefully your new ones work well. that way I won't die on my passenger ride next month!
millworm
27-04-17, 11:55 PM
They looks the business, your front wheels will disappear under the car when you stamp on them lol
Well, this is a progressive build after all, I mean it's not like I bought 5 sets of brakes before deciding on the Alcons!!
Boom fitted
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They fit under the Cromodoras with space to spare but I've had to remove the wheel weights!!! Have to see how that feels.
Feel pretty good on the pads Mintex F4R's that came with them.
Wondering if I now need some stiffer front springs to counter the dive.
Stiffen the Damping a touch as opposed to messing with the springs.
you do need a bit of dive to load the tyres up to get better traction for slowing
BRoadGhost
30-04-17, 12:10 PM
Paint the big alcon bit on the calipers black :D
Stiffen the Damping a touch as opposed to messing with the springs.
you do need a bit of dive to load the tyres up to get better traction for slowing
Yeah this is what I'm reading!! I'm already quite stiff at the front as it is, so this might have to wait until I get the golds on the new shell
Paint the big alcon bit on the calipers black :D
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totalnova
01-05-17, 05:08 PM
I'm already quite stiff at the front as it is :gay:
lol
:gay:
lol
Jealous?!? Hahaha
BRoadGhost
02-05-17, 10:32 PM
Should be good; going for an aggressive pad?
RallyMarshal
03-05-17, 07:43 AM
If youve got F4Rs then bed them in properly and they will be mint :-)
Paul..
The F4R's feel good on the road but that's not really transferable to track. I'm going to order some CL6 endurance to have with me aswell, always good to have a proven pads in the toolbox just incase!!
Off to Ibiza tomorrow then rockingham on the 13th with Iain. Should be fun!!
Must find some wheels!!
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Wheels ordered, hoping they arrive Thursday so I can get the tyres on and ready for Wockingham with TSV.
Was hoping for a 4 wheel align before then too but not sure I'll get one, might just add 1.5 degrees of rear camber with the spacers and see how it fairs.
that are some very nice wheels! what size did you order?
that are some very nice wheels! what size did you order?
15x7j ET38 which is close to the Cromodoras I'm running now which are 15x7j ET37.
Spoke to the wheel place today they won't be shipped til mid next week, so it looks like it'll be Cromodoras on the front and Cesaros on the rear!!! Can't use the outside wheel weights with the Cromodoras as they foul the calipers so wobbly dobbler will be the name of the game
15x7j Can't use the outside wheel weights with the Cromodoras as they foul the calipers so wobbly dobbler will be the name of the game
Stick the weights on the face of the wheel and start a new trend ;)
Stick the weights on the face of the wheel and start a new trend ;)
A good chum just suggested inside the spoke which could well work, I'll look tomorrow, luckily I've a tyre place that just let me use their machines so I can potter around!!
grind rubber off the other side :D
grind rubber off the other side :D
Stanley knife it off??
Stanley knife it off??
If thats more your bag, then yeah
Not a bad day in all at Rockingham yesterday, no videos from me as I forgot my SD card.
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Iain and I got a garage cos it's crap enough if it rains, let alone all your stuff getting soaked. The rain held off apart from a few little sprinkles that didn't really affect the track which was good, especially after a wet Rockingham was described to be "as slippery as a bucket of eels covered in olive oil" during the briefing.
We had a fairly quiet morning, learning the track, which despite a few awkward bumps flows really well, there were many many sideways moments, mostly on purpose!! Including one moment where both Iain and I were sideways through the same corner at the same time, absolute hilarity!!
On a vehicle point, we seem to have survived intact, brakes were next level, defo worth the investment, few clonks from my top mount bushes that need addressing but other than that all good
BRoadGhost
14-05-17, 12:27 PM
Sweet; shame no videos
Highlights for me included seeing House spin out in the first session and cover his engine bay in oil due to the dipstick pushing out. lol
Car was performing very well on the day, we annoyed a few Caterhams.
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Little photo Iain just sent me.
I forgot to mention in the confusion of packing I forgot to load my rear slicks!! Luckily Iain brought extras, so I borrowed them and all was good!!!
Bit slippy though, I reckon it was a ploy to slow me down!!!!
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So MOT done, well, I say MOT, it went on the ramp and the brake tester!!!
Decided the silver scoop was out of place
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My favourite, matt black!! Looks a touch better!!
So onto Brands, me and this nobhead decided it was time we tried Paddock Hill bend properly so MSV it was, little bike ride through the woods to get the blood pumping first though!!
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Wet Wet Wet in the morning, loads and loads of fun!! Learning a bit of car control on what was essentially a skid pan!!!
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Then lunch time something peeked out from behind the clouds and the familiar question of "slicks?!?" Was asked about 20 times!!
However before that we happened to find out that Brands has a weigh bridge, I couldn't resist!!
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I was really surprised at the weight!!
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Didn't think I'd be that light, almost impressed!! Haha
Anyway so the afternoon session started dry on we were on slicks, well we performed a record speed tyre change Iain did 8 wheels on 2 cars in the last 6 minutes before the end of lunch!! Just as we were getting our helmets ready, this BMW driving dickhead, thinking he was a hero did this and brought a red flag out for 25 bloody minutes!!
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By the time it was cleaned up, the rain had started again, we, being bigger heroes than BMW boy, decided that slicks on a damp track was the right decision!! We didn't fall off and we were actually surprised by how much grip was on offer, however when the rain started bouncing off the track we decided to have a little break.
We did get some proper dry laps in though and Paddock Hill bend is loads of fun in the wet and the dry!!
Anyway, all in all, a rather good day, shame it was so expensive for what is a 60 second lap but we had loads of fun as always!!
Videos to follow!!
turbojolt
06-06-17, 09:57 PM
Looks a expensive mistake for BMW man
Looks a expensive mistake for BMW man
Apparently it was for sale on Ebay for £5,000!!! Not now!!
Few dry laps chasing Iain.
https://youtu.be/P15c4g22RwE
Few wet laps, bit of turning left round Paddock Hill bend!!
https://youtu.be/tthT8X8Ehp4
(https://youtu.be/tthT8X8Ehp4)
8valve-craig
07-06-17, 06:52 AM
Good write up Housey. Rain is a bit depressing but you can still have just as much fun in it.
Looks a expensive mistake for BMW man
I'll be impressed if its rebuild with M-tech bits. They must be getting expensive now surely.
The rain worked well as we experienced the track in both conditions. Awesome day.
I'm trying to buy a touring for the missus at the moment and the price is crazy. I sent her a photo with the caption 'e30s just gone up in price again' lol
Housy forgot to mention the new camera footage is off his new GoPro with WiFi remote. Very nice kit.
Yeah what Iain said!! On his advice I last minute (Sunday night) purchased a go-pro hero 4 silver and wifi remote, awesome bit of kit, so easy to start and stop videos and serves a double purpose as a session timer!!!!
The added bonus of it is the outside footage is great but you also get to see me pedalling, working on that heel and toe!! Kind of getting it right!!
How does IaIn always look so camp?
How does IaIn always look so camp?
He's bent as a 9 bob note.
He can pedal though!!
That is a horrendously unflattering photo in my defense. Usually I look way camper.
scottmasterton
07-06-17, 03:08 PM
House looks great :) whats a rough spec at that weight?
So went to pick this up today
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Alpha coat just to protect it, can be welded through so wont hinder Ben doing his job
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Engine bay isn't too sad, no surprises here, we knew the battery tray had been very poorly repaired, few other little holes, but again nothing we didn't know about
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Underside and rear suspension mounts are in in top shape
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Both rear arches need work, but what's new!!
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All tucked up under a waterproof cover ready for when Ben has space, which we hope will be a few weeks time
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House looks great
I am shockingly handsome, thankyou!!
It's not a great spec as those that follow know already
Basic run down
XE on throttle bodies
Hanger 30 adjustable front suspension
Hanger 30 rear disc beam
Half rear cage
Seam welded engine bay
OBP pedal box
fuel tank in the boot
Steel boot, bonnet and doors
That's about it.
The new shell will be different but again there's no reason we can't get to under 800kg
Was a good day ,the Nova boys having it in the P,ing rain when most were tucked up in the garages. It certainly was slippery though!
Was a good day ,the Nova boys having it in the P,ing rain when most were tucked up in the garages. It certainly was slippery though!
It was slippier than a bucket of eels covered in olive oil.
I know it looks really slow in the videos but I don't think I could have gone any quicker, just reviewing my wet lap videos and almost every lap has a correction in it at some point, oversteer at Paddock Hill and understeer through clearways. Whatever though it was a top day.
I make no comment about the dry weather only drivers, they need to grow a pair!!
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Back for a 4 wheel alignment, new machine better system for holding it on the wheel
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Here's what we started with
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Bit of mucking around but got it pretty good, this was before we set the front toe
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It seems the new rear beam has inadvertently given me some rear toe out, we've always tried to avoid toe out as it's meant to be scary, admittedly it's not a lot of toe out but car feels really good so it's staying!!
Then a nice little pic showing the front camber
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jamie rigby
10-06-17, 05:05 PM
Cool build mate!
What suspension are you on mate? I'm new to Novas and looking at Gaz but unsure on spring rates yet
Looks like you guys had fun!
Brands is a great circuit, last time i was there i got to hoon a Ferrari Cali round it. Came very close to getting punted off by a dude in an F430 that was driving like a joy rider!
What suspension are you on mate? I'm new to Novas and looking at Gaz but unsure on spring rates yet
Thanks but are you sure you're looking at the same car we look at?? It's a pile of shit!!
Suspension, Gaz coil overs all round, think I run 425lb's on the front and 250lb on the rear.
It actually handles really well without a rear anti roll bar too but I've got it there incase I want to be like Iain and induce loads of lift off over steer!!
Mike, I don't mind Brands, being that it's so close to me I should do it more often but it's £250 a day which is extortion!!
BRoadGhost
11-06-17, 01:23 PM
Altogether more serious with the shell etc now. IMO go full ham & plate all mounting points / raise them; tub arches & cage.
I've been putting this off for ages but decided today I'd try and fit an internal shifter. I sifted through Iain's waffle on his build and found a little diagram and also some other comments about getting the slot in the right place which helped.
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I decided not to remove the original upstand from the old nova lever and instead to mount a plate onto it, glad I did this as gear lever height is now perfect, just had to space the back up a little get the ball on the lever in the right place.
Rather annoyingly I've had to leave this part of the carpet support in
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As my solid rear brake pipe is clipped to it!! Anyway as we all know this shell is fubar anyway so I don't care, I'll stick some edging strip over it and be done with it!!
Road tested, got it spot on first time, works perfectly!!
This will remove 10 seconds a lap easy, I'm going to be even quicker than Iain now!!
BRoadGhost
11-06-17, 01:35 PM
Internal shifter of any description's gonna be a step up - think you'd go cable? I've just gone RJ on my cable & turret and it is seriously short (I was beating synchros before) so that's gonna be something to learn when back on the road.
Altogether more serious with the shell etc now. IMO go full ham & plate all mounting points / raise them; tub arches & cage.
Ben has all this under control for the new shell, I'm being guided by him, he has built many quick cars and knows what works.
think you'd go cable?
New gearbox comes with a lever so wont need to worry about cables!!
torquey
11-06-17, 04:34 PM
Have I missed something what's wrong with your shell?
Have I missed something what's wrong with your shell?
Roof skin replacement isn't great, it's started to crack the filler and there are so many things I don't like and can't be bothered to try and sort out.
Easier to just get a new shell and start again but do it properly, shell prep will be done by Ben @ Hanger 30, engine is built and ready, just needs the dry sump kit fitting, lots of little bits being done, as from my previous post the shell has been blasted and is ready to go back to Ben, just waiting for a slot from him, then back to me for mocking up, back to Ben for adjustments, then paint, build, drive. Easy as.
torquey
11-06-17, 05:06 PM
Oh right gonna say it don't look a bad shell in the pics but if your not happy with it might as well re shell as said will save time .
Oh right gonna say it don't look a bad shell in the pics but if your not happy with it might as well re shell as said will save time .
To be fair mate, there's no rust on it, just bits I'm not happy with!!
torquey
11-06-17, 06:23 PM
So whats happening with the shell?
So whats happening with the shell?
Well I need the doors and front wings as they're solid, as for the rest of the shell, I'm not sure, I can't see it being worth anything, roof skin is fubar, it doesn't have any mounts for standard pedals or seats, the cage is just a half one in the rear.
torquey
11-06-17, 08:07 PM
Arr right might be use to someone .
jamie rigby
12-06-17, 07:30 PM
Thanks but are you sure you're looking at the same car we look at?? It's a pile of shit!!
Suspension, Gaz coil overs all round, think I run 425lb's on the front and 250lb on the rear.
It actually handles really well without a rear anti roll bar too but I've got it there incase I want to be like Iain and induce loads of lift off over steer!!
haha nah man its good, like what your doing with the shifter, will have to do it myself on mine at somepoint!
That seems heavy upfront i take it thats for the sheer engine weight? i built a big spec xr2 and that was on 250 fronts 450 rears was great maybe 300s upfront wouldve been better though!
haha nah man its good, like what your doing with the shifter, will have to do it myself on mine at somepoint!
That seems heavy upfront i take it thats for the sheer engine weight? i built a big spec xr2 and that was on 250 fronts 450 rears was great maybe 300s upfront wouldve been better though!
As I'm no longer running a front ARB I'm trying to curb the body roll and diving on the brakes with stiffer springs, seems to work well
8valve-craig
12-06-17, 07:46 PM
I found the only way to get my 2.0 Nova really handling well in the dry was with tough springs and some aggressive geo. It works really well now but is definitely a handful. I'm sure there is a middle ground somewhere.
Ill let let House and Lain find it then will just copy them.
jamie rigby
12-06-17, 07:52 PM
cheers guys think i'll order some Gaz Golds and go for stiff maybe 375 fronts and probs 450s rear with no arbs and see how it is!
one more question so i'm not spammimg your thread, i take it a baffled sump is a definate requirement? (Xe revving to 7500rpm on Federal RSRs)
one more question so i'm not spammimg your thread, i take it a baffled sump is a definate requirement? (Xe revving to 7500rpm on Federal RSRs)
You're not spamming mate, the whole point of this is to share knowledge!!
I'd say yes baffled sump is a must.
Craig runs a dry sump and my new shell will have one too but I'm using a baffled sump at present
jamie rigby
12-06-17, 08:36 PM
You're not spamming mate, the whole point of this is to share knowledge!!
I'd say yes baffled sump is a must.
Craig runs a dry sump and my new shell will have one too but I'm using a baffled sump at present
cheers mate i'll look into it!
juest reading back through your thread, seen your running a Corsa B EPAS rack, are these a straight fit? (mounting points, coloum and thread for TRE's?) definetley NEED one of these after how bad the standard steering feels!
seen your running a Corsa B EPAS rack, are these a straight fit? (mounting points, coloum and thread for TRE's?)
Yes I am and yes straight fit, you just need to swap the arms over for nova ones as the corsa is a wider track I believe.
One of the best upgrades I've done, made the car feel a lot sharper
I like the shifter. Piky fitting is nice too.
I like the shifter. Piky fitting is nice too.
Pikey fitting?!? How fucking dare you!!! I spent atleast 22 minutes doing that!!!!
Oh dear, what have I done?!?
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8valve-craig
21-06-17, 08:33 PM
Oh dear, what have I done?!?
Bought another money pit?
Be better round the track than a shitty nova :p
C5 BiTurbo are great cars.
mcrtuning.com in Banbury is where you want to take this for stooopid horsepowers (700+ but still totally drivable everyday)
Bought another money pit?
Yeah but I'm a millionaire aint I!!!
C5 BiTurbo are great cars.
mcrtuning.com in Banbury is where you want to take this for stooopid horsepowers (700+ but still totally drivable everyday)
I've been going to The Phirm in Blackwater for 15 years with various VAG cars, so we've got a few plans!! MRC are pretty insane too though, some of the result they get are mental!!
It'll see 530 without too much work but I'll be keeping it as is for a while, got some tidying up to do underneath first!!
Have you lost your mind? This makes no sense to buy at all.
Because of this I fully condone your purchase. Well done on winning at enjoying life.
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Just because life is for living!!
Always wanted to own an RS6 and an Aston Martin V8 Vantage!!
1 down, 1 to go!!!
When's the Towbar being fitted,get to the track days a bit quickerlol
When's the Towbar being fitted,get to the track days a bit quickerlol
LMAO wouldnt wanna tow with any RS Audi, i frequent Audi forums an never heard anyone getting over 23 mpg from a RS6 lol most average 20 or less.
Be lucky if you get over 15 when towing a trailer lol
Well, Audi don't actually provide a stamp on it for towing, so it wouldn't work, I'm sure you could but as Mike says. I managed 24.4mpg over 330 miles. Some A roads from Holyhead down through Wales and around Shrewsbury then down the M5 and last Cirencester along the 417 to the M4, M25 and home. Cruising at 65-70 it nearly gets to 30!!!! But then some young wipper snapper comes up behind you in an Astra VXR and flashes you out the way and when that happens the law states you have to educate them.
In all fairness it really goes but it's hard to describe, it doesn't Pin you to the seat but you nail it off the line, look down and you're doing 80, it's really sedate and comfy!!!
Im impressed you got that mpg!
Its a shame there one of the most expensive cars ever made to run/maintain (other then the V10 version lol) as the performance in them is phenomenol. Effortless power all the way upto about 165. Nice clean power delivery, pretty quite & super comfy.
I work with a guy whos got a C5 (RS6) saloon, an his dad a B7 RS4. There both so different to drive with the 6 being way more refined an handles like heck for a barge.
If i didnt do so many miles Id have a saloon without a doubt, but as it is ill have to settle for a supercharged S4 lol remap & smaller pulley makes more power then the current RS6 for £15,000 less lol you use RS246 at all House? Wealth of knowledge on there.
you use RS246 at all House? Wealth of knowledge on there.
I'm registered on there mate and it's very useful for research, Tim tells me anything I need to know, he's well practiced in these monsters, you might know of the blue S3 they built with 614 HP, that's next level!!
Supercharged S4!! I had a go out in a Supercharged RS4 that The Phirm put together, 650 Horse, was utterly insane.
I agree the RS4 is more of a drivers car, the 6 more of a wagon, I like it cos I'm hoping I can blat about in it, it's fun, understated, doesn't attract too much attention and then come home get the wife, foster kids and dog in the back and take them out somewhere!!!
Certainly a wagon aye lol fastest estate car ever built i think??
Dont think ive seen that S3, but not been on there in ages lol yea the B8 S4 is a 3.0 TFSi, there actually supercharged not turbo. Pulley change & engine remap (and gearbox remap if auto) makes stupid power for a 3.0 (480+ on standard blower, near 600 with an APR blower kit)
Certainly a wagon aye lol fastest estate car ever built i think??
Dont think ive seen that S3, but not been on there in ages lol yea the B8 S4 is a 3.0 TFSi, there actually supercharged not turbo. Pulley change & engine remap (and gearbox remap if auto) makes stupid power for a 3.0 (480+ on standard blower, near 600 with an APR blower kit)
I love it!!!! I did look at the V10 C6 but they're in the 30's for a decent one and I can get an Aston for not much more!! RS6 C5 is a start!! I love how it looks too, squat and mean!! hahaha
The TFSI engines are next level, Paul at the Phirm has a 2.0 TFSI in a mk2 golf, running proper pedals, clocks, the lot it's very impressive!!
God yea i love them too. But things like the V10s are no joke when it comes to maintenance/running costs. Road tax is is 500 odd a year i think?
£1k+ a corner for DRC repair, £7k for a new gearbox, £200+ a tyre... crazy money!
C6 RS6 is £900 for a major service!!! too many spark plugs
C6 RS6 is £900 for a major service!!! too many spark plugs
Thats not a bad price considering the 80k service & camblet/tensioners on my daily Audi was around £800 at a main dealer. But the longlife services are only 160 odd for a lowly TDi mile muncher lol there probably double that for you now lol
You seen the price of brake discs yet!
You seen the price of brake discs yet!
Yep!! I've been offered a set of carbon ceramics with pads for £4k, very very tempted considering standard discs are £450 plus each!!!
Found out today the engine undertray is past it's best, just found one online £468!!!!! Can see how these were £65k cars new!!
Respect for an audi lover. If ur rich keep up with the new so plenty dow to blow this is the way to go! http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/201950830338
A pal of mine has one of these, utterly savage!!
Yep only 50k lol Raid the mattress lol
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Parts coming thick and fast now!!
8valve-craig
14-07-17, 11:50 PM
That's not a sequential shifter.
That's not a sequential shifter.
Correct!! Had a choice, sequential box or RS6, the RS6 won.
RallyMarshal
22-08-17, 07:48 AM
Update time....
Stuff's going on, shit is getting real. That is all.
Will be back later in the year
Oh and i traded the C5 RS6 in for a C6 RS6, 570HP, 5.0 V10 twin turbo. going for a re-map in a few weeks, aiming for 700 plus BHP and 700-750ft/lb of torque. 0-100mph in 6 seconds. That'll do.
My Touareg V10 derv, as you say, 'twin twin turbo' currently has more torque in stock form with 553lb/ft then your V10 petrol guzzler in stock form, grant you have more bhp. However, that'll soon change once you get your mental remap. more of everything! Mine is better in the snow that your's lol.
But my penis is bigger than yours Harv so it all evens itself out!!!
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Few pictures showing progress is still happening
totalnova
18-03-18, 06:29 PM
Looks like a good few hours have gone into that, is this a new shell your building if I remember right?
Nick
Yep, sure is Nick, I can’t take the credit, Ben @ Hanger 30 is doing the biz!!!
total_vauxhall
19-03-18, 11:08 AM
Very clean work
All the work is fantastic on this...
Ben’s work is exceptional!!!
totalnova
20-03-18, 01:09 PM
Yep, sure is Nick, I can’t take the credit, Ben @ Hanger 30 is doing the biz!!!
Where is this hanger 50? I've heard of it before but can't find any info.
BRoadGhost
20-03-18, 01:50 PM
Fab work's looking 1st rate; are you considering plating the various weak spots / reinforcing rear beam bolt holes & lower arm bolt holes? Could be an ideal time.
Standard inner rear arches IMO should be binned entirely.
Where is this hanger 50? I've heard of it before but can't find any info.
Hanger 30
He has a Facebook page.
Fab work's looking 1st rate; are you considering plating the various weak spots / reinforcing rear beam bolt holes & lower arm bolt holes? Could be an ideal time.
Standard inner rear arches IMO should be binned entirely.
Ben knows what he’s doing, he has a budget and free reign to do as he pleases.
BRoadGhost
20-03-18, 08:45 PM
I don't know the guy or what's been instructed or commissioned; does he do tarmac cars / FF hatchbacks ordinarily & which bits your putting on it?
I’ve heard he’ll do anything for the right price.
Anything at all.
I don't know the guy or what's been instructed or commissioned; does he do tarmac cars / FF hatchbacks ordinarily & which bits your putting on it?
I’ve basically told him to go to town on it, do everything he feels will benefit it. He’s built a number of fast novas, I just pay him some money every couple of weeks and he sends me a load of gangster pictures.
I know the following is on the list
Front cross member replaced, with direct to cross member tie bars
Full HH cage with a lot of additional little touches
Custom steering column and mountings
Quaife DTT shifter (leaving an option for the sequential at the moment)
Full HH playing kit to go on
Custom made “solid” engine mounts (rubber bushed but very stiff) including 4th mount to cross member
Chassis leg mod for dry sump
Sub frame bracing, to tie the cross member to the suspension pivot points
Custom fuel tank with in tank pump and swirl pot
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Southie
21-03-18, 10:48 PM
Nice bit of stitching, my grandma would have love this fine work.
Still enjoying your project after all this time ;)
Nice bit of stitching, my grandma would have love this fine work.
Still enjoying your project after all this time ;)
Thanks mate!! Hoping to get a unit this year, I’ve got some contracting to do in America but that should secure some money for unit rental!! It’s £1000 a month round my way!! But the new accountant says I can swing it!!!
Need to get the old shell out on track!! Unfortunately foster kids have arrived and thrown a spanner in the works!!! [emoji23][emoji23]
Here you go you benders.
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So, last of the underseal came off today, it’s gonna back on some wheels tomorrow then the cage starts
Should see 2 weeks of solid progress now, cage, seat mounts and steering column
Steering setup we’ll be using the same setup Ben has devised
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His pedal box can be seen here along with cage and some additional bars we’re adding, he’s gone with a HH cage aswell so has done all the R&D meaning it should go in mine easier!!!!
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The search for a unit continues.
total_vauxhall
26-03-18, 09:03 PM
Column looks spot on mate
Column looks spot on mate
Ben’s the man mate!! He knows what he’s doing!!!
I’m also making a custom dash, hopefully secured a Stack dash setup
steeringcolumn looks very nice!
Novarally140016v
29-03-18, 06:44 PM
Steering setup we’ll be using the same setup Ben has devised
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His pedal box can be seen here along with cage and some additional bars we’re adding, he’s gone with a HH cage aswell so has done all the R&D meaning it should go in mine easier!!!!
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The search for a unit continues.
Hi, I like the steel steering column mount, is it custom made or can it be purchased?
total_vauxhall
29-03-18, 09:11 PM
Look under autograss mini on.ebay pal I found a few before when I looked into doing mine
nova ian
29-03-18, 09:33 PM
Owens Fabrications for them steering column mounts ����
Hi, I like the steel steering column mount, is it custom made or can it be purchased?
What this lot said!! Ben is sourcing everything so I’m afraid I don’t have a clue!!!!
TallDave
31-03-18, 10:45 PM
Ah Mr House, its nice to read a few updates again, some nice welding to swoon over, add in a bit of fabrication and we're in anorak heaven.... sigh!
Loving the Tilton pedal box, presumably you're fitting one into your car?
Keep the updates coming, they make an old bloke happy.
Im guessing UJ will be added to the steering colunm?
Ah Mr House, its nice to read a few updates again, some nice welding to swoon over, add in a bit of fabrication and we're in anorak heaven.... sigh!
Loving the Tilton pedal box, presumably you're fitting one into your car?
Keep the updates coming, they make an old bloke happy.
Hold on to your seats for this one!!!
Yep reverse tilton pedal box, the one that puts the master cylinders under your heels, luckily I’m over to America quite often at the moment and can get one shipped over!!!
Im guessing UJ will be added to the steering colunm?
Yes mate, using a standard rack, albeit with quaife internals. This was only pictured for the steering wheel position.
Luckily Ben and I are close in height and build so I don’t have to keep making visits to the workshop for seat fitting, if it fits Ben it’ll fit me, however Ben is building some adjustment into the pedal box.
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Nearly as good as my RS6 Porn!!!
totalnova
03-05-18, 04:34 AM
Jaw dropping, absolutely stunning work.
Jaw dropping, absolutely stunning work.
As we all know, I don’t have the skill or the time to have done this so all the credit must go to Ben at Hanger 30 for his exceptional work.
nova_niek
07-05-18, 07:11 AM
Jaw dropping, absolutely stunning work.
+1
Looking very sexy indeed.
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Not been started in 7 months!! First turn of the key
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Fired straight up!! Even washed it ahead of Mallory on Friday!! First trackday in a while!!
Few changes to try out, new steering wheel position and internal shifter.
Should be a good day!!
Iain going to Mallory? I think he has been missing you showing him the way round ��, new shell is looking good, are you going up to Bens anytime soon, I need a beam picking up!
JoeWak98
07-05-18, 10:40 PM
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Not been started in 7 months!! First turn of the key
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Fired straight up!! Even washed it ahead of Mallory on Friday!! First trackday in a while!!
Few changes to try out, new steering wheel position and internal shifter.
Should be a good day!!
What Rev counter have you used mate??
Cheers
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Iain going to Mallory? I think he has been missing you showing him the way round **½*¸€, new shell is looking good, are you going up to Bens anytime soon, I need a beam picking up!
Iain is there yes!! I’ll be busting his balls as usual!!
I need to take my dry sump pump up to Ben in the next 2 weeks so could maybe pick it up for you mate?? I’ll see what I can do!!
What Rev counter have you used mate??
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Fucked if I know mate!!! I’ll have to have another look when I get home!! It’s been so long since I’ve looked at the car I’ve forgotten!! Haha
Make sure you have the camera on, we all like to see Iain struggling to stay in front! If you could grab the beam that would be great, I’m often at Brands so could grab it off you if that’s ok
Make sure you have the camera on, we all like to see Iain struggling to stay in front! If you could grab the beam that would be great, I’m often at Brands so could grab it off you if that’s ok
We’ll sort something mate!!!
Iain is switching back to semi slicks so I’ll have to do the same or he’ll cry his eyes out that I’m only faster cos I’m on slicks!!!
JoeWak98
09-05-18, 07:10 PM
Fucked if I know mate!!! I’ll have to have another look when I get home!! It’s been so long since I’ve looked at the car I’ve forgotten!! Haha
Hahaha no bother, just looking for a decent rev counter for the rally car [emoji1303]
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Hahaha no bother, just looking for a decent rev counter for the rally car [emoji1303]
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We’re at Mallory Friday I’ll look then for you mate!!
JoeWak98
09-05-18, 07:28 PM
We’re at Mallory Friday I’ll look then for you mate!!
[emoji1303][emoji1303]Top man
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NovalutionGSi
12-05-18, 09:11 AM
So how did Friday go then Mr House?
Seen that there were 3 from team stonky and only 1 ended the day running...
So how did Friday go then Mr House?
Seen that there were 3 from team stonky and only 1 ended the day running...
Friday went well until I destroyed 4th coming onto the start finish straight chasing Iain, managed a total of 20 laps!!
It appears my ability to not break gearboxes has run out of talent!!
Never mind, it's kicked my butt into action cos I'm not removing the box on the drive, I'm bored of doing that and I'm getting old and can't be arsed crawling around under a car anymore!!
I'm looking at a unit Monday, as soon as that's confirmed I'll order a ramp and get that installed then get the engine and box out and Iain has an old F20 we're gonna throw in, carry on abusing the car for a bit, toyed with the idea of an SCCR but I've got a little something special planned for the new shell and don't wanna punt £2,500 at this car.
New one is maybe 4-5 weeks from being finished so I'll get that in the unit and start mocking that up and getting it sorted. At present the only things I need out of the current car are the throttle bodies, ECU and brakes but who knows I might get sentimental and keep the current car as a backup stick it on some ATE's or back on the hi-specs and just buy another set of Jenvey bodies. I'd like to keep the current car running aslong as possible, don't want to fall into the trap of having a car in progress and forgetting what it feels like to do track days. We'll see.
Also retiring our VW Caddy from work to become a dedicated track tow van, tools and everything in it permanently cos I'm bored of loading and unloading the Passat. Should mean I can literally turn up to the unit, get in the Caddy and go, no worrying if I've got everything or not!!
That was a bit of a long explanation!!!! Sorry mate!!!
Shame about yesterday, I have got some compbrake 4 pots you can use if you want to keep the old shell going. The unit and Caddy sound like good ideas, it really does my nut having to keep loading and unloading the van prior to an event
NovalutionGSi
12-05-18, 06:27 PM
In-depth reply, good work! Lol.
Sounds like an awesome plan, shame your so far away, I'd be calling in to borrow them ramps. Lol
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