Spaceframed SR20DET RWD Nova [Archive] - Page 9 - Performance Nova Group

The Simps

17-06-19, 11:58 AM

Please tell me this project will be alive again, 3th time now I went to the thread lol

Project is still alive! It's now at home so there's hopefully more chance of getting time to work on it, which has happened but I've been distracted with doing some maintenance work on the M3 and then with a new purchase to replace my daily. It's also intended to replace the M3 too but I'm going to try and keep them both as long as I can!

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But the Neva work that has happened so far...

I want to get it on the spit so I decided to lop the back end off as it was a) in the way and b) I just wasn't happy with it anyway! I've had some weld in threaded inserts made to go in some tube ends. Next step is to get those in and brackets made from there to the spit ends.

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Hopefully some little updates will happen over the summer!

millworm

17-06-19, 12:20 PM

Good to see your still cracking on with this

boffer8

19-06-19, 02:09 PM

Good to see it still surviving and hopefully resume progress soon!

Southie

19-06-19, 07:08 PM

This thread should be in a time capsule for others to read, it will one day be history in the making...

The Simps

04-08-19, 10:16 PM

So some progress this week which will hopefully continue! Rear bungs now in place and rear part of the spit welded and bolted in the place. The bungs will also act as a mounting point for the rear end structure of the car. Where the back currently is is where the rear screen ends, so can fit in a hatch or saloon body at this point. Fairly happy with the welding considering it has been literally years since I even tacked anything! lol

On another note, anyone know of any free image hosting sites? Photobucket has the annoying image tags on now grrr....

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total_vauxhall

04-08-19, 10:46 PM

Tapatalk . No messing around just go onto the png page and post your pics straight on same with all other forums you use all in one place

The Simps

05-08-19, 08:15 AM

Tapatalk . No messing around just go onto the png page and post your pics straight on same with all other forums you use all in one place

Great tip, thanks!

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Benn

05-08-19, 09:54 AM

Tidy welding as you've not done it in a while.
Love the rear idea, But just really happy to see you working on it.

The Simps

05-08-19, 09:59 AM

Tidy welding as you've not done it in a while.
Love the rear idea, But just really happy to see you working on it.

Me too mate, me too!

So much easier now it’s at home. Was nice having the old workshop but being able to just pop downstairs for 20-30mins tinker time is great. I’ve missed it.

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House

05-08-19, 11:21 AM

Best decision I made was converting the garage into a workshop so you can just nip in there and have a play!!

With the car!!!!

The Simps

10-08-19, 08:09 PM

Mounted the front section of the spit today. Now need to tweak it slightly then raise both ends so i can get a full spin from it :)

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The Simps

11-08-19, 07:26 PM

And it’s on!

Time to crack on.

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House

12-08-19, 08:07 AM

Excellent work!!!

The Simps

12-08-19, 08:58 AM

Thanks House, really enjoying being back at it again :)

House

12-08-19, 04:32 PM

It's great to see it coming back to life mate.

Iain and I talked about making a budget rear wheeler just for fun.

This is going to be epic when done

The Simps

12-08-19, 06:50 PM

Is there such a thing as a "budget" red Nova? lol I guess the money is saved in doing all your own fab work.

House

13-08-19, 11:33 AM

Is there such a thing as a "budget" red Nova? lol I guess the money is saved in doing all your own fab work.

Not in my case mate!!! Hahahaha

The Simps

07-01-20, 11:47 PM

So... to update on where things have progressed since August.

Part 1 of 3

There was a lot of standing around in dissatisfaction with some of the previous work I had done to the frame and I decided if I didn’t correct/change/improve it now I knew I would regret it. However, with such long term projects there has to be compromise as things are always evolving and I could just end up going around in circles! There was even a moment in October where I was considering completely starting again! [emoji85]

So I decided it would be sensible to work back to front, which started with the rear panelling. It was sloppy, rough and the recess inconsistent.

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So starting with pass side it was all chopped out and with some jiggery & spacers I piloted building a frame out of 3x10mm plate...

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Then some 1mm sheet and you get the idea...

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The Simps

08-01-20, 12:08 AM

Part 2 of 3

In order to continue this panelling two things had to happen:-

1] remove and refit better a section of tubing (angle was off by maybe 5deg compared to other side and was bugging me!)

Choppy! Choppy!

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Ah... that’s better for my brain...

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2] address the horrid bottom section of the middle panel...

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As you can see from the above pic the cross brace was removed (will be redesigned later) and the subframe mounting point tube wish trimmed, shaped and made to flow better...

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Same was repeated on the other side to match. The framing work was then completed for these 3 panels each side before making up more templates. These templates will eventually be carbon sheet not steel and bonded in (more panelling in part 3!).

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The Simps

08-01-20, 12:26 AM

Part 3 of 3

So with the panel templates ongoing, a tedious a not very exciting job, I moved on to some other parts. Firstly adding some more tubing...

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Repeat on the other side...

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Then it was back to more panel templates [emoji30]

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Including a sneaky one out of some old, crappy carbon sheet to give an idea of the intended end result (just imagine the tubing is all anthracitish)...

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Then distracted away from that again for a bit I removed the outer sill piece, trimmed up the inner section and added a length of tube. The inner section will be getting removed when I build the new, lower complete floor structure [emoji13]

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So that’s where I’m up to other than a few more panel templates and framing work. Once that’s all done I need to repeat the sill removal & tidy on pass side. Some more tubing and box has been ordered for when I rebuild the floor but I want to refit engine & box again before I go at that.

Thanks for following along. It’s been really great getting back at it again, albeit in small bursts! Then brain is filling up with ideas daily!! [emoji854]

totalnova

08-01-20, 05:07 PM

Great to see an update on this and the panelling looks great. I think it's normal that as projects progress you'll notice things you're not happy with, but I guess you need to know what you can leave and what will always bug you.
Nick

The Simps

08-01-20, 05:14 PM

but I guess you need to know what you can leave and what will always bug you.
Nick

Exactly that! There's definitely compromise in there somewhere.

millworm

08-01-20, 06:20 PM

Glad to see you're still cracking on with this, know the stress of having to go back a correct work you previously done, have pretty much started over with mine (granted it's not as much of a project as yours is!)

Benn

08-01-20, 08:12 PM

Fantastic to see you working on this again.

The Simps

08-01-20, 08:13 PM

have pretty much started over with mine

This your 2dr LET saloon? Whats the do with that now then?

The Simps

08-01-20, 08:19 PM

Fantastic to see you working on this again.

Thanks mate :)

millworm

08-01-20, 09:37 PM

This your 2dr LET saloon? Whats the do with that now then?

Nothing spectacular, I got distracted building my xe mk1 fiesta and by the time i came back to it i wasn't happy with alot of the work I'd done. Still going for a fast road/track car but just redoing a lot of the fab work and had to build up a spare let for the time being as I want to go further with mine

The Simps

08-01-20, 09:42 PM

Nothing spectacular, I got distracted building my xe mk1 fiesta and by the time i came back to it i wasn't happy with alot of the work I'd done. Still going for a fast road/track car but just redoing a lot of the fab work and had to build up a spare let for the time being as I want to go further with mine

Gotcha.

I think for me, the ever increasing supply of youtube videos on various builds has inspired.

millworm

09-01-20, 12:57 AM

Second that, lot of knowledge out there now especially on the fabricating side of things and generally made me more of a perfectionist than I used to be haha

nova_niek

13-01-20, 05:24 AM

Like others, I'm glad to see this is moving forward. Look forward to more updates. Do you have a link to the Fiesta build anywhere? Cheers!

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millworm

13-01-20, 05:47 PM

Like others, I'm glad to see this is moving forward. Look forward to more updates. Do you have a link to the Fiesta build anywhere? Cheers!

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I never really made one but there are a lot of pictures on my Instagram @millworm95

DEAN-DOHERTY

17-01-20, 04:45 AM

The Simps

17-01-20, 07:13 AM

This is epic. Me and a mate have discussed and without it sounding wrong, I've fantasised many times how i would love to build a space framed car. For me ideally a nova. I'd no idea one was in the making. I've not had a look around this forum in years.

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Just as a caveat, I have no idea if I’m doing it right! Lol I’m just sticking to the principle of triangulate and getting a professional welder to do most of the finished welding. I have no idea how this would be in a crash?? Can you be to stiff? Needs an engineers oversight/opinion really to be honest. I highly doubt this car ever sees the road!

blue_peg_16v

17-01-20, 09:16 AM

Woooooo it’s still alive

DEAN-DOHERTY

17-01-20, 05:16 PM

Looks great either way. A crash would be sore. No crumble zone points. Surely if built to a good standard "road legal compliant" you could go down the kit car route and have it registered and tested.

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The Simps

18-01-20, 04:49 AM

Where are the crumple zones on a normal nova? Once you hit the chassis legs its all solid?!? Thinking about kit cars, they’re normally just all box section?? Should I be using some thinner walled tube/box on front & rear so it twists/bends easier?? [emoji2369] i dunno! [emoji23]

House

18-01-20, 02:25 PM

Don't be so negative!! Haha build it to work!! A crash should be the last thing on your mind!! Haha

Although, as I was cruising to the barrier at Cadwell I did think "hmmmmm maybe I did need that collapsible column, instead of the body stabbing bit of bar that we used"

The Simps

26-02-20, 10:36 PM

So to update...

I’ll let the pics do the talking but basically:

1) I finished all the framing on the tubing on the rear end bar a few finishing touches and an x brace on the large centre piece. I’ve not bothered to make any more panels out of steel at this stage, knowing/hoping it will all be carbon anyway.

2) Remove the outer sill on passenger side.

3) Refitted engine & box.

4) Started to think where my new floor needs to be, especially around drivers feet with wheel clearance and gaining whatever space I can! I might drop down a tyre size I think, just to give me a little more room.

5) Build a dolly jig so I know the new floor will be level to all the main pickups. Principle is 70mm box on same size wheels as rotisserie, so the two go together and also separate - is modular the right word? I then cut loads of smaller 70mm cubes that I can stack for consistent height. Front subframe is to be the lowest point and also the floor level so I can then go flat right the way through. Subframe is 3 cubes high off the jig (210mm). Once floor is built there is a very high chance I will be redoing the front chassis legs/subframe pickup points, probably out of tube. Floor will be made out of the 25x50mm box.

6) Attach car to jig [emoji41]

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It’s been so much thinking, staring, head scratching and pondering to figure out how best to move forward, but mounted everything squarely to the jig tonight and see my cubes actually work was a real feeling of achievement and progress.

Now to plan removal of the old and in with the new!

The Simps

26-02-20, 10:38 PM

p.s. ignore the rotisserie at the rear and its support through the middle of the car, they are turned to one side, so not running down the cars centre at present!

Iain

02-03-20, 09:17 PM

Nice.

House

03-03-20, 08:40 AM

Go on The Simps!! Good to see this getting some love

The Simps

08-03-20, 08:19 PM

So quiet week this week but got 3hrs in this afternoon.

After lots of checking and re-checking that everything was stable and won’t collapse on me, I made a start at removing the remaining sills and floor sections...

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You can now see with the sleeved extensions where the new floor ends up.

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Need to scollop the sleeves around the horizontal tubes for a better fit and to have more of the pillar posts inside the sleeve. Will also make 1 or 2 uprights and a diagonal piece at the rear. Like this...

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The front will also tie into the front subframe area but will do that when I come to redoing the front chassis rails etc.

Hopefully will get some time for progress evenings this week [emoji4]

The Simps

15-03-20, 07:46 PM

Being a financial adviser, this week was not exactly quiet at work so no Neva project time. But put in a shift this afternoon and got the drivers side sill/floor and supports made and reading for tacking.

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Benn

26-03-20, 10:57 AM

Looking good Si.

blue_peg_16v

28-03-20, 12:05 PM

Glad to see your still on with it mate

scott.parker

28-03-20, 03:30 PM

Wow! Still building it! Good going
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The Simps

29-03-20, 08:40 AM

Thanks fellas.

Being stuck at home I’ve put some good time in this week and nearly finished the main part of the floor structure, removing all of the old...

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Should have the front part of the X welded up today. The floor is 25x50 box and there will be additional supporting 25x25 box where required, such as around tunnel. Pedal box area will obviously have a well supported structure too.

I will then need to add a small trapezium shape section that will run between the rack and bellhousing like so...

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Then its engine & box back out to start thinking about the redesign of the front end, particular the chassis legs.

Really enjoying being back on this [emoji4]

blue_peg_16v

29-03-20, 08:48 AM

Spot on at least the lock down is having a positive impact somewhere lol

bazzap8389

29-03-20, 01:52 PM

Coming along nicely mate. Good to see everyone working on their projects just now!

The Simps

29-03-20, 03:35 PM

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Front part of the X made & welded in. Time to chill for the rest of the day [emoji4]

Aron 6pot

30-03-20, 06:54 PM

This things nuts, I'm really looking forward to seeing some panels back on it and looking like a nova again.

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The Simps

31-03-20, 07:44 PM

Made the gearbox mount today subject to welding in the floor support and making the adapter bolt to the floor, but it’s enough for now.

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I’ve got room to fit a crush tube in the centre of the adapter (trapezium shaped part) which I may do yet.

I then spent a couple of hours tidying up ready for engine to come back out, hopefully tomorrow!

The Simps

01-04-20, 06:47 PM

Engine came back out today. Now ready to rework the front end. Just need to decide how I want to do it before I start hacking away! [emoji23]

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Aron 6pot

02-04-20, 08:23 PM

What tube bender are you using?

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The Simps

03-04-20, 08:29 AM

What tube bender are you using?

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I don’t, thats why everything is straight pieces where possible! Lol

I think from memory, other than the initial custom cages main hoop, windscreen/roof bar, and a pillar posts, the only other bent tube is around the front turret tops and bulkhead to front cross member. Those I had to get bent for me.

Benn

04-04-20, 01:31 PM

Gear box mount looks good.

The Simps

02-05-20, 07:56 PM

Ok, so it’s been a month since I updated and I’ve been working on it most days.

I had a good offer on my Nissan s14a donor shell so needed to crack on getting remaining bits off I needed, but more importantly, making a new, better jig of the front end. What I discovered is that I had my tension rod brackets in the wrong alignment - glad I caught it now before I redid the front end! While changing the front end to correct that, I also decided I wanted to redo the turrets. I never liked where they sat as I had to take a chunk out of the wings like so...

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So I did some trig and worked out that moving the turrets inbound 30mm will take my camber from -1 to -4, about where I’ll likely run it. My top mounts of choice then have 3deg either way, so well within scope for what I need. So cue one over engineered, adjustable jig! (It’s made out of offcuts and scraps as getting more steel has been challenging!)

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And some one-piece cnc’d turrets currently being made...

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The Simps

02-05-20, 08:08 PM

So jig done, I started lopping pieces off the front end, first creating room for the footwells.

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And here’s where I’m at as of today. I have the new front half of the floor basic structure in place and the upright tubes which tie in the floor to the turrets (a complicated bit of notching at the top, took a few attempts!). And then to end the day I lopped off the front bar!

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While I wait on the machined turrets, next step is replacing the box chassis rails with tube with weld in bosses. Bosses should be here this week. I also have to pluck up the courage to chop the current turrets out! I had replacement 90deg bends arrive yesterday ready, along with 5m of tube.

Rockin on!

Aron 6pot

02-05-20, 08:33 PM

The Simps

03-05-20, 12:16 PM

Very nice [emoji106]

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Thanks Aron.

I was just looking back through the thread trying to establish some timeline perspective...

June 2013 - Test fit of the sr20, box, and subframes

Jan 2015 - Removal of the body from the frame/chassis.

I really lost a few years somewhere, a good woman really does change your life! [emoji1787]

millworm

03-05-20, 01:29 PM

Good progress mate

The Simps

03-05-20, 03:08 PM

Good progress mate

Thank you

scott.parker

03-05-20, 08:16 PM

scott.parker

03-05-20, 08:16 PM

The Simps

04-05-20, 06:41 PM

Wow, love it mate, im impressed you a) still have it, b) have the balls to realise you can improve on it now, because a lot would have given up 10 times over thing is, these days this is done a lot more now, but back when you started it, it's was something very uncommon! Brilliant update dude. 

Thank you Scott, very kind words indeed!

It is amazing it's still going, I agree. I do it mostly as a stress relief outlet if I'm honest. It's certainly more about the journey than the final destination.

Crazy engine swaps are without doubt more common than when I started this 7 years ago. I don't think there are that many fully space framed hobby builds though? Ones I've seen have been done in motorsport or fabrication shops. But of course, the quality is without doubt going to be better than anything I can build - I would hope so anyway!! lol

The Simps

04-05-20, 07:59 PM

Old chassis rails now chopped out. While I wait for my machined collars & inserts for the mounting points I will be pondering a plan!

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Nova_Tek

04-05-20, 08:01 PM

Where the phrase "built it, not bought it" cannot be argued!

The Simps

10-05-20, 06:48 PM

Worked on the subframe mounting points this afternoon. Very time consuming but pleased with the results.

These are 12mm ID, 20mm OD steel crush tubes. The hole needed to be 10mm offset from the tube centreline. So after some templating and tube notcher fettling this happened...

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Other one done...

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Then other side and subframe mounts done, subject to welding of course, which I want my mate to do as a proper welder person - they need to be strong.

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Next up is the same for the tension bracket mounts!

Thanks for reading.

stt

10-05-20, 11:18 PM

Great work, really enjoying the updates

novarally

11-05-20, 08:36 AM

Great work, really enjoying the updates

I’ll second that. Great progress.

The Simps

11-05-20, 03:13 PM

Thanks chaps!

Do we think that subframe structure is man enough for the task? Obviously normally its a piece of box section chassis with crush tubes so being tube with crush tubes (of which both are thicker walled steel!) it should be stronger. But is having greater contact across the subframe mounting surface important?? I have a tendency to over engineer these things!

Once welded I doubt the crush tubes would twist or flex, subframe should not either I would assume? I will also be running another vertical piece of tube from between the two subframe bolts up to the strut tower, which conveniently is where the front part of the turret meets.

Iain

11-05-20, 04:28 PM

The Simps

11-05-20, 04:38 PM

Simps you're a madman. Love the work on this.

I know what you mean about the subframe, if it's got 2 flats on top I'd be happier if it was sitting on box section. Is there a lot of push/pull force on it?

This the top of the subframe mounting point...

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It obviously holds the engine and front suspension but doesn’t have the same forces on it as a driven axle.

I guess see how it goes (assuming I actually get to drive one day!) and if it is a flex point then I just build the subframe into the chassis [emoji13]

The Simps

11-05-20, 06:26 PM

Drivers side tension rod bracket mounting point done. These are threaded, bolting up from underneath like factory.

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The Simps

13-05-20, 06:54 PM

Both sides now drilled and in place (not welded).

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Need to make a decision now how I want to do the front section.

Aron 6pot

13-05-20, 06:55 PM

Top job! That's looking very nice.

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The Simps

13-05-20, 07:42 PM

Thanks Aron

The Simps

14-05-20, 05:31 PM

Pick up finished turret tops tomorrow! [emoji2]

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The Simps

14-05-20, 06:56 PM

Lamb chop anyone?? #commited

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Aron 6pot

14-05-20, 07:59 PM

Pick up finished turret tops tomorrow! [emoji2]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200514/a26265d362b47f670fc91e4ecc63a276.jpgThey are a thing of beauty!

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The Simps

14-05-20, 09:15 PM

They are a thing of beauty!

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It also means I can weld tube ends straight to it nice an easy ie no more 90 deg bend around it or big plated section - new design coming!

Iain

15-05-20, 11:23 AM

Love that turret!

The Simps

16-05-20, 05:28 AM

So I cleaned up where I lopped off the old turrets, bolted all the required suspension components back on and mounted up the new turret! I then moved them inboard 30mm as planned and checked the camber which was -3.5deg. I was aiming for around -4deg so I know I can go further if I want to!

I need to now decide whether to come up and or inbound more. Looking at old pics I can go up but not sure if I should wait for the body to be back on before I make a decision and know if it definitely clears [emoji848]

I also have not yet fully decided on how I will attach the turrets to the chassis, well more like where, but I have some ideas. A choice of one piece of tube impacts the next... Lots of standing and staring while tea drinking to be done!

The pics:

Stock position...

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Moved inbound 30mm...

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Add suspension and check camber...

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The Simps

17-05-20, 05:46 PM

No big update today as I try and keep my neighbours happy with no grinder noises all day on a Sunday! [emoji23] So just a few hours this afternoon.

Chopped off the other old turret, now needs the excess grinding back.

Mounted and levelled the turrets.

Fitted an upright each side between the subframe and tension bracket mounts to the upper bar.

I have now also moved both turrets at total of 35mm inbound and raised them 25mm [emoji4]

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The Simps

23-05-20, 06:05 PM

Tagging the turrets into the chassis is underway. Such a time consuming process!

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The Simps

23-05-20, 06:07 PM

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Seems I’ve reached my image upload limit for month!

I’ve got one to tie in on the front then its onto the other side. I’m then gonna pull the shell/nova body out of storage and give it a test fit, make sure everything is clearing.

Benn

25-05-20, 06:27 PM

That turret.... Christ!

The Simps

25-05-20, 07:24 PM

That turret.... Christ!

Too big? [emoji23]

The Simps

25-05-20, 11:20 PM

It's starting to take shape...

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Just need to make and add these little front pieces next and it's ready for plating in the gaps...

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I also went to my storage unit today to dig out the shell - not far off test fitting it on the body now! :eek:

blue_peg_16v

07-06-20, 04:50 PM

Looking good mate

Nova_Tek

07-06-20, 08:17 PM

Getting better and better Simps :thumb:

The Simps

08-06-20, 08:49 AM

Thanks fellas.

Front turret supports are now in place...

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I’ve also reinstated the front posts for the slam panel & rotisserie mounts, although they will likely change once I’m done with the rotisserie.

Hopefully getting the shell home this week if the weather holds off long enough [emoji1696]

Nova_Tek

08-06-20, 12:10 PM

I’ve also reinstated the front posts for the slam panel & rotisserie mounts, although they will likely change once I’m done with the rotisserie.

Hopefully getting the shell home this week if the weather holds off long enough [emoji1696]

Can't beat a bit of chicken and driving... Gotta have that rotissserie!! lol

The Simps

08-06-20, 11:05 PM

Can't beat a bit of chicken and driving... Gotta have that rotissserie!! lol

[emoji23]

The Simps

14-06-20, 01:22 PM

So June 2013 was the first prelim test fit of the engine to see if the project was viable...

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Jan 2015 the body was removed from the frame...

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June 2020 and the body is finally reunited with the frame!

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I’ve now got some fiddling to do to get it in place (about 25mm back and 25mm down. I then want to check clearance of everything (especially the front turrets!) then I can get all the front end welded up.

millworm

15-06-20, 02:30 AM

That's a mile stone right there!

Will F

17-06-20, 09:56 AM

Yeaaahhhhsssss

Southie

18-06-20, 02:23 PM

Lockdown has been good for some after all :thumb:

Nova_Tek

18-06-20, 08:36 PM

Levelled up, Simps!

nova_niek

18-06-20, 10:37 PM

Woooo hoooo! [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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Shamish82

26-06-20, 07:45 PM

This is a good motivation boost for you. Looking good

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Benn

07-07-20, 12:45 PM

Loving the turrets.
So good to see the shell on it again

The Simps

07-07-20, 08:20 PM

Thanks Benn. Front end has now all been welded. With work busy again I've not had any real significant time on it but I have next week off, so hoping to dedicate two full days. I want to make the tag points for locating the shell so I can remove the exoskeleton that is around it, get engine back in and figure out the bulkhead, and finally cut away the rear arches for clearance and I can actually put it on its wheels rolling again :)

I've ordered a new seat too - hopefully this one fits! 6 week lead time tho :(

Benn

10-07-20, 12:19 PM

Sounds like a plan.

Is going very well

The Simps

16-07-20, 07:50 PM

So in the last few days I’ve done some chopping (rear wheel clearance), made some temporary brackets (locating the A pillars), and chopped of the exo-skeleton that was around the body!

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It’s looking a little more Nova like now!

I almost took it off the jig just to see it on all 4 wheels and under it’s own weight, but would only have to go putting it back on the jig again. So I didn’t! [emoji1787]

House

16-07-20, 09:22 PM

Fuck yes!!!!

Crack on

Iain

17-07-20, 11:06 AM

Whats the plan for arches then? Wide saloon-shape steel?

The Simps

17-07-20, 09:16 PM

Whats the plan for arches then? Wide saloon-shape steel?

I’m really torn between something 80s boxy, like e30 m3 style, or staying true to the loon and staying round. I’ve got about 90-100mm to fill in the back, less up front.

Will F

20-07-20, 10:00 AM

Wow - looking like a car again must give you huge motivation!

Nova_Tek

23-07-20, 11:28 PM

Either those wheels are huge, or I've forgotten how small a Nova is!

The Simps

24-07-20, 12:05 AM

Either those wheels are huge, or I've forgotten how small a Nova is!

They are 17s in Nissan S14 size diameter! 235 rear and 215 front I think is what's on there. I have the option to go a little smaller diameter and could always drop down an inch front and rear (currently 8" & 9"). I would like to ideally run staggered wheel diameter too with 17s rear and 16s front, but that will depend on if I decide to run drop knuckles to help keep the geo in check as they won't work with 16s. We shall see...

But yes, a Nova is still small lol

Nova_Tek

27-07-20, 03:12 PM

They are 17s in Nissan S14 size diameter! 235 rear and 215 front I think is what's on there. I have the option to go a little smaller diameter and could always drop down an inch front and rear (currently 8" & 9"). I would like to ideally run staggered wheel diameter too with 17s rear and 16s front, but that will depend on if I decide to run drop knuckles to help keep the geo in check as they won't work with 16s. We shall see...

But yes, a Nova is still small lol

Sounds like you've got it pretty much worked out.

I'm at the point of thinking about what wheels to go for, want to go 17" and something different, but Nova friendly wheels are basically 'Unobtainium'.

Benn

04-08-20, 12:23 PM

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Holy F**K that looks awesome.

The Simps

04-08-20, 05:41 PM

So mocked the front end back on as best I could and test fitted the bonnet. It just catches on one of the turret/top mount nuts, but with some trimming away of the under structure we should be all good! Was nice to have the face on the car again :)

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Then I set about looking into the front wheel positioning...

The rears line up with middle of the arch but the fronts are set back due to me deciding I wanted the engine further back. Like so...

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So I trimmed out the wing for clearancing and set about a test fit...

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Now. I’m obviously going to be flaring out the arches, probably keeping the saloon round look, just bigger. If I keep the bumper as stock and start the arch flair just above it, i just have enough tyre clearance to the bumper on lock. Rear would need trimming back more but I plan to run that open anyway, time attack car style. If I wider the sides of the bumper then I can move the wheel forward. Which brings me on to that...

Above is all stock arms but with turrets moved in to about -3-4deg camber as stock. Stock there should be c7deg castor and I’m told I don’t want to be running anymore than 7.5deg really for a grip set up.

Until I get the coilovers, arms etc I’m not really going to know what’s possible in terms of moving the wheel forward and keeping good geo. Guess what I’ll have to buy soon then!

The Simps

04-08-20, 05:42 PM

And here’s some gratuity pics for fun!

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torquey

04-08-20, 05:52 PM

Looks great its defo getting there now.

The Simps

04-08-20, 05:56 PM

Looks great its defo getting there now.

Oh she's got some way to go yet! lol

RJM25R

07-08-20, 11:11 PM

Ready for Trax????

:-)

NovalutionGSi

08-08-20, 11:05 AM

Certainly moved on quickly. Looking awesome already.

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The Simps

10-08-20, 09:16 PM

Ready for Trax????

:-)

[emoji23] brilliant!

The Simps

10-08-20, 09:21 PM

Need some input please gents!

New corbeau seat arrived today (LE Pro) and I’m really pleased with it. It’s designed specifically for the lotus elise so its narrow but at the same time accommodating, basically lower sides.

Now on to positioning. How close is too close to the roll cage? I think I’ve got it about where it needs to be for comfortable pedals and gear stick.

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Nova_Tek

24-08-20, 01:55 PM

Great stuff mate, starting to take shape :thumb:

The Simps

06-11-20, 06:23 PM

So to update this as it?s been a while. Not a huge amount to say as mostly gathering parts such as a willwood peddle box and some used but ok tein coilovers (temporary until I get what I really want).

I?ve modified a lotus elise subframe that fits my seat to straighten it up and made mounts & tunnel accordingly...

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Headroom is good, a little tight in a helmet but I am directly under the roll bar...

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The Simps

06-11-20, 06:27 PM

And as today was nice I fitted up the coilovers and rolled it out the garage. A happy day [emoji4]

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Still a long way to go but seeing it as a rolling chassis again does give me motivation.

Iain

06-11-20, 06:31 PM

Looks badass. Always fine they look cooler in this mid build phase than finished.

The Simps

06-11-20, 10:44 PM

Looks badass. Always fine they look cooler in this mid build phase than finished.

I know exactly what you mean! lol

Been struggling to figure out the steering column last few days. Pretty sure I will make a new shaft and weld on a lifeline boss. I will then obviously need bearing carriers, UJ's, bulkhead fittings and appropriate connection rack end. I've tried 10x + to count the number of splines on the end of the Nissan UJ to rack and lose count every time! [emoji1787][emoji85]

NovalutionGSi

07-11-20, 09:15 AM

Looking awesome now mate. [emoji106]

Is this just going to be a track car or be road legal?

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The Simps

07-11-20, 10:49 AM

Looking awesome now mate. [emoji106]

Is this just going to be a track car or be road legal?

Thanks bud.

Just track. Would be back breaking on the road plus a nightmare with SVA etc.

NovalutionGSi

07-11-20, 10:54 AM

Thanks bud.

Just track. Would be back breaking on the road plus a nightmare with SVA etc.Shame, but yes understand that. Would be mega out on the road but a lot of work.

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novarally

07-11-20, 03:24 PM

That's looking excellent, great work.

Iain

09-11-20, 02:13 PM

Slap a Nova plate on it and just MOT it.

The Simps

09-01-21, 07:45 PM

Update time.

Been steadily gathering parts and figuring out the steering column the past few months. I am running the S14 (200sx) steering rack and the input spline is a strange count on both sides of the UJ connection, so I was always going to need the lower part of the S14 column for simple ease. It is whether I use the whole S14 column, the nova column (with lower S14 part welded on) so I can retain keys, stalks etc, or simply make my own touring car style. So I set to work!

S14 and Nova columns side by side...

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I chopped the end off I needed from the S14 column and it turned out the splined end was actually pressed into a splined sleeve. Thankfully I cut it right where the splined part ends! Lol (the part is pictured machined down here, more on that later).

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Inspired by House?s set up, I got in touch with Ben @ Hangar 30 who supplied me with a bracket that comes off the cage to hold a bearing carrier and bearing for top end of the column.

The bearing ID is 3/4 inch. He advised me to use some 3/4 inch cds for the column with a nice thick wall c5mm. This was proving tricky to source, let alone in a small length, so opted for a piece of solid 3/4 inch bright steel bar. It?ll be a touch heavier than the cds but in all honesty, weight saving on this build has not been a huge priority, just a consideration.

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The Simps

09-01-21, 07:55 PM

So I now needed to attach the 3/4 inch column to the lifeline weld on boss (20mm od) top end, and the S14 piece rack end, and with a UJ and bulkhead bearing in between.

So I had the boss and S14 piece machined down to 3/4 inch, sourced a 3/4 inch uj, and I found a sierra bulkhead bearing that takes a 25mm od shaft. It then required a series of 25mm od 3/4 inch id machined sleeves,collars to bring it all together which will eventually get welded into place...

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Interestingly, it worked out about the same length as the S14 column! Albeit the bulkhead fitment on my set up is closer to the rack (slightly).

And here it is all together...

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The Simps

09-01-21, 07:59 PM

And here?s how it all comes together in the car. The final version of the bulkhead bearing bracket will be changing slightly but same position and angle.

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The Simps

09-01-21, 08:01 PM

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The Simps

09-01-21, 08:02 PM

I?m now waiting on some grub screws to arrive. I will drill and tap all the sleeves so I can nip everything up in final position to check all moves ok before getting it tig?d.

Iain

09-01-21, 08:57 PM

Lovely work. The bracket Ben provided looks proper, will look badass in a dashless car.

Nova_Tek

09-01-21, 10:40 PM

Thorough work as always!

The Simps

09-01-21, 10:54 PM

Cheers chaps [emoji106]

House

10-01-21, 09:07 AM

Ben gives good help.

Excellent work on the fabrication.

Botedly

24-01-21, 01:05 PM

This build is pretty much the only reason I log in at the moment. Brilliant work.

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Iain

24-01-21, 01:06 PM

This build is pretty much the only reason I log in at the moment. Brilliant work.

Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHarsh for the rest of us updating.

But fair. Epic build.

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The Simps

24-01-21, 01:09 PM

Harsh for the rest of us updating.

But fair. Epic build.

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Thats what I thought! Loads of awesome builds on here (and from people who actually know what they?re doing! [emoji23]) and updated far more regularly than mine!

But thank you Botedly. Hopefully have more updates soon but been really lacking motivation to get in the garage lately.

torquey

24-01-21, 01:46 PM

Know the feeling hard to get motivated with the garage being like a freezer! Good work as always pal

House

29-01-21, 05:17 PM

Know the feeling hard to get motivated with the garage being like a freezer! Good work as always pal

My garage is 19 degrees and I still be bothered!!! Haha

torquey

29-01-21, 06:17 PM

Haha if only mine was...

NovalutionGSi

30-01-21, 11:38 AM

My garage is 19 degrees and I still be bothered!!! HahaNo one likes a show off...

I draw the line at it being around 0 and having to lay on the floor under the Nova... I may like it... but not to get a chill in my bones... i'm getting old now. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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torquey

30-01-21, 12:27 PM

No one likes a show off...

I draw the line at it being around 0 and having to lay on the floor under the Nova... I may like it... but not to get a chill in my bones... i'm getting old now. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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Iam feeling it now too at my age.

The Simps

07-03-21, 06:15 PM

So I tried much harder to just spend a few hours a week in garage, which I mostly achieved. Progress is slow but progress none the less.

Put the passenger side seat rails in. No mounting brackets just yet as I need to make/modify an elise passenger frame first and get another seat!

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Put this tube in connecting bulkhead to front rails to hopefully aid in deflecting any head ons away from my feet!

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Replaced the bits of wood spacing out the A pillars both sides with some little tubes. I?ve got some tidying up to do on shell when it?s next off the frame then this can all be strengthened and boxed in. For now, the tubes help with locating everything.

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The Simps

07-03-21, 06:19 PM

I started doing some templating for the bulkhead around my feet. Took forever tweaking it but happy how it all turned out. I also made a start on the frame for the tunnel.

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The Simps

07-03-21, 06:20 PM

The sides of the tunnel will be removable, top probably will be fixed, undecided yet.

total_vauxhall

07-03-21, 10:22 PM

Looks f'ing mint. One question though, what do you gain by the front coilovers been slightly layed over like that. Great work btw

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The Simps

07-03-21, 11:53 PM

Looks f'ing mint. One question though, what do you gain by the front coilovers been slightly layed over like that. Great work btw

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Thanks!

So the geometry is based upon 200sx S14 stock geo and shock tower position, angle etc, but with them pulled inbound for more camber in the stock position (and to tuck inside the inner wings) and up to give more shock travel as I will be pretty low. Also helped to keep the camber sensible for moving so far inboard. I think in standard camber plate position is around 3.5deg. The run a fair amount of castor as standard c6-7deg I think which is typical on a lot of rwd stuff. I moved the engine and subframe back an inch (from memory) and plan to pull the wheel back forward by that again with adjustable lower arms and tension rods. If its too much castor I have a lot of adjustment in the turrets.

Hard to tell I know from the pics, but looking back at notes it was 35mm in and 25mm up.

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And you can see how in the last pic the wheels are yet to be moved forward, which will induce more castor, which I can always take some back out again on the turrets but spinning the mount holes.

The Simps

07-03-21, 11:54 PM

Looks f'ing mint. One question though, what do you gain by the front coilovers been slightly layed over like that. Great work btw

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Assuming that was what you were referring to! [emoji23]

total_vauxhall

08-03-21, 12:10 PM

Assuming that was what you were referring to! [emoji23]Yes thats it mate that explains it

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Nova_Tek

15-03-21, 07:14 PM

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That just looks sexy!

nova_niek

17-03-21, 04:55 AM

Stunning work as always. Love it.

The Simps

17-03-21, 07:17 PM

Thank you [emoji4]

Hopefully more progress soon!

The Simps

04-05-21, 05:39 PM

So been plodding along with this, mostly focusing on steering column and drivers footwell...

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The Simps

04-05-21, 05:47 PM

And this weekend I made the drivers foot rest...

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And now I need some help and inspiration with the remaining dimple dies...

I want to add plenty for some reduced weight but also cos dimple dies! Lol So it I see it as an opportunity to do something interesting. I love symmetry and geometric patterns, and so version 1 was this... (circles being the holes and there will be 5-10mm of the trumpeting around that)

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And then version 2, a bit more traditional and asymmetric...

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Side by side...

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The Simps

04-05-21, 05:47 PM

Thoughts people?

The Simps

04-05-21, 07:20 PM

Here?s an extended version 2. I think this is the one...

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Who?d of thought this would of been so stressful! God knows what?s gonna happen to me when I get a bead roller! [emoji1787]

totalnova

04-05-21, 09:21 PM

Version one, look like a crop circle.

The Simps

04-05-21, 09:36 PM

Version one, look like a crop circle.

[emoji23] it does

novarally

06-05-21, 05:52 PM

[emoji23] it does

Have you watched any Ryan Tuerck videos on YouTube?

If you can get past his annoying and childish American arrogance, then they've done some great builds, and he has a truly brilliant fabricator called Dom. He's certainly the brains behind the operation!

He did some great stuff with an aluminium footrest in one of their drift cars. Good for inspiration.

EDIT - took me a while to find it, but here it is;

(1) Best Floor Plate Ever Machined? East Coast Car EP.9 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDh9thJkYw4)

The latest build they're doing, a modern Supra with a Judd V10 motor is quite something.

The Simps

06-05-21, 08:19 PM

Have you watched any Ryan Tuerck videos on YouTube?

If you can get past his annoying and childish American arrogance, then they've done some great builds, and he has a truly brilliant fabricator called Dom. He's certainly the brains behind the operation!

He did some great stuff with an aluminium footrest in one of their drift cars. Good for inspiration.

EDIT - took me a while to find it, but here it is;

(1) Best Floor Plate Ever Machined? East Coast Car EP.9 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDh9thJkYw4)

The latest build they're doing, a modern Supra with a Judd V10 motor is quite something.

I found the Supra build over Xmas, very cool indeed, ?Dom spec? is certainly something! I had not watched any previous vids though so that was helpful, thank you! I feel like when it comes to fab work and building cars in general, if you have a lathe and a mill the possibilities of what you can achieve go to a whole new level!

The Simps

06-05-21, 08:28 PM

Starting drilling, punching and dimpling last night...

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I?ve learned a few things. The initial pilot hole for the hole punch is not as critical as I thought in terms of alignment. Because the hole punch clamps/stamps through rather than turning, you can use that to line up square. The dimple die obviously needs a snug fit to the hole but is really effortless. I was expecting lots of distortion on the steel but none.

I also learned I had to scale down my size plans. The die?s themselves have a good 5-10mm of flat after the taper section. So with that first row, that flat section was encroaching on the tapered part of the hole next to it. I just got away with it!

Hopefully get the rest done later, but it?s actually quite time consuming if you want them nicely lined up.

novarally

06-05-21, 08:32 PM

I found the Supra build over Xmas, very cool indeed, ?Dom spec? is certainly something! I had not watched any previous vids though so that was helpful, thank you! I feel like when it comes to fab work and building cars in general, if you have a lathe and a mill the possibilities of what you can achieve go to a whole new level!

The equipment they have access to certainly helps, and then there's the space they have. Seems like a USA thing, every house and workshop is vast.

The other fabrication/tuning series I enjoy from the USA is Rob Dahm (a rotary engine expert). He's come a long way since his early days, to the point where he's now machining his own engines.

The Simps

06-05-21, 08:37 PM

The equipment they have access to certainly helps, and then there's the space they have. Seems like a USA thing, every house and workshop is vast.

The other fabrication/tuning series I enjoy from the USA is Rob Dahm (a rotary engine expert). He's come a long way since his early days, to the point where he's now machining his own engines.

If you're a middle class American you will have more disposable income compared to a middle class Brit, thus more tools and toys! And yeah, much bigger houses, garages and workshops.

Rob Dahm is an enjoyable watch too, I love his honesty with his videos.

Fitzee's Fabrications is also worth a look for good metal work skills, The Fab Forums too.

novarally

06-05-21, 08:43 PM

If you're a middle class American you will have more disposable income compared to a middle class Brit, thus more tools and toys! And yeah, much bigger houses, garages and workshops.

Rob Dahm is an enjoyable watch too, I love his honesty with his videos.

Fitzee's Fabrications is also worth a look for good metal work skills, The Fab Forums too.

Thanks, I've watched one episode of Fab Forums, but Fitzee's Fabrications is new to me. I shall give that a go.

Oh yes, forgot to mention Papadakis Racing who also do some fancy stuff.

The Simps

06-05-21, 08:44 PM

Thanks, I've watched one episode of Fab Forums, but Fitzee's Fabrications is new to me. I shall give that a go.

Oh yes, forgot to mention Papadakis Racing who also do some fancy stuff.

Will certainly give that a watch! I find I watch more YouTube than TV these days.

novarally

06-05-21, 08:54 PM

Will certainly give that a watch! I find I watch more YouTube than TV these days.

Very much the same for me!

Nova_Tek

07-05-21, 11:34 AM

Great progress Simps!

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The Simps

07-05-21, 01:20 PM

Great progress Simps!

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Thank you [emoji120]

The Simps

07-05-21, 01:24 PM

Just finished up all the dimpling, really pleased with how it?s come out in the end and learned a lot! Need to weld in the support & mounts and its done [emoji4]

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These also arrived today, very nicely made I must say...

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I?ve been reading that a lot of the stiffer engine mounts out there can end up raising the engine 10-15mm, which I obviously do not want. These mounts come well recommended and only increase height minimally but there?s scope to strip them down and machine a little off if required, hopefully not!

Thought I better get these in and trial fitted to make sure none of the chassis is affected.

The Simps

07-05-21, 01:27 PM

Very much the same for me!

Colin, how do you mount your nova fibreglass doors? Is there a hinge kit you use or just fab something? I was thinking a simple c shaped bracket bolted to the door that goes between the body parts might work??

novarally

07-05-21, 02:43 PM

Colin, how do you mount your nova fibreglass doors? Is there a hinge kit you use or just fab something? I was thinking a simple c shaped bracket bolted to the door that goes between the body parts might work??

My carbon fibre doors have just got the hinges out of a set of standard steel doors, cut out and bolted into them.

I have also got some fabricated hinges that Ben Speechley at Hangar 30 does, which are slightly lighter and a bit more elegant. I haven't fitted those yet.

The standard hinges work just fine. Happy to supply photos if you need them.

The Simps

07-05-21, 03:04 PM

My carbon fibre doors have just got the hinges out of a set of standard steel doors, cut out and bolted into them.

I have also got some fabricated hinges that Ben Speechley at Hangar 30 does, which are slightly lighter and a bit more elegant. I haven't fitted those yet.

The standard hinges work just fine. Happy to supply photos if you need them.

If you wouldn?t mind sharing a photo of both that would be great. I might message Ben when time comes then for a hinge set, don?t really want to cut up my steel ones as they are pretty decent.

novarally

07-05-21, 03:17 PM

If you wouldn?t mind sharing a photo of both that would be great. I might message Ben when time comes then for a hinge set, don?t really want to cut up my steel ones as they are pretty decent.

No problem at all, I'll get some photos.

My standard hinges date back to the days when I had dozens of rusty Nova doors, so it was no problem to chop them up! I keep forgetting that these cars have real value now.............

novarally

07-05-21, 03:58 PM

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That's all 4 of the Hangar 30 hinges taped together in the last photo, just in case that's not obvious!

The Simps

07-05-21, 04:12 PM

Nova_Tek

07-05-21, 04:20 PM

The Simps

07-05-21, 04:51 PM

Next big purchase might have to be the fuel tank as I need to figure out the mounting structure for it. Really want one these from Nuke...

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prs

07-05-21, 09:54 PM

The Simps

08-05-21, 12:11 AM

The Nuke CFC and the Radium Engineering FCST are quite expensive for what you get( iirc. 1000 pound for a basic unit with fuel cell but without fuellpumps/ levelsender/ fillerneck-flappervalve etc.).

I have made one myself and the total cost for the parts is around 100pound for the topplate, fullpump mounts, swirlpot, 6pin fuel resistent bulkhead connector, Viton flapper valve and the fillerneck
The (used) ATL fuel cell was around 180 pounds.
It saves quite some money and it is an straightforward job..

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Good job on building one yourself, looks good!

They?re not a cheap unit, no. The CFC on it?s own without pumps, sensor etc is c?550-600. The one I pictured with the tank comes in at around ?650, so a cheap tank to be fair, although not FIA approved, which doesn?t bother me anyway.

I could even get one made for less that would be more than suitable for the job but there?s just something about the set up and tank I really like, I can?t explain it.

This build is about function but not entirely over form. It?s very much about the journey for me (bloody should be, it?s taken long enough! Lol)

Iain

08-05-21, 12:12 PM

I like your holey bits.

The Simps

08-05-21, 12:22 PM

I like your holey bits.

Off topic but also on, I had my first vindaloo last night, so not all my holey bits are likeable today!

novarally

08-05-21, 09:01 PM

Looks very neat that Nuke fuel cell.

I was quite taken with the Radium one that they installed in the Formula Supra, then reconsidered when I looked at the prices!

Great work PRS on your home made version.

The Simps

26-07-21, 01:39 PM

So to update this.

With lockdown ending works been pretty busy with long days, so not much time in the garage. We then got the news our landlord wants to try selling the house during this current crazy market climate! So knowing we are on the move I needed to crack on and get what work I have done on the car sealed.

So body came back off

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I then first wanted to focus on tidying up the inside of the shell/body so when it goes back on it is ready to be welded/fixed to the frame permanently. But also I wanted any bare metal cleaned up and painted. So that happened

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The paint of choice was a coating called Steel-It. It is used a lot in offroad circles for chassis parts, arms etc instead of powdercoat and basically dries hard for a good protective seal. But its party piece is it actually contains pigments of stainless steel and is weld thru, perfect for what I need! I sprayed a test piece then tried welding to it and it does work. Quick clean up and you can then just respray the welded bit and it blends well.

Next up is getting the frame stripped down and back on the rotisserie. Ive got some smaller fab jobs I want to do and bits to finish weld on the underside, then I will coat the whole thing in more Steel-It.

If there is time before any move, I also need to redo the rear turret tops. The angle of the strut is all wrong and the mounting point on the hub is under stress. They need to be more upright. Hopefully I will get time to do them but I need the frame rolling and everything bolted back on for the move as I am expecting to be going to a smaller space :(

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novarally

26-07-21, 02:31 PM

House

26-07-21, 05:36 PM

Go on the Simps.

Crap about the move.

No chance to buy the house??

The Simps

26-07-21, 07:25 PM

Looking excellent as always and some good progress there.

Have you any idea what the weight is of the original bits of the Nova shell? Roof, with the A/B/C pillars etc?

Very curious if you do have any idea!

What?s the plan for attaching the shell to the spaceframe chassis?

Thanks Colin. Frustrating that every time I get momentum something always stops me!

As for weight, no idea. Will see if I can rig up some scales and find out!

Attachment wise, it was held on by a pair of these tabs on each pillar (you can see the b pillar ones in previous post pics)

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But just those 6 wont be enough to support it with glass, doors, trunk etc. I could do gusset plates to the cage but seeing as I dont need structural rigidity in the body I want to try and make it bolt on/off if possible. So maybe double up on tabs? Tricky bit is obviously making sure I get a good seal on the bulkheads if making it removable, I have some thoughts on that.

novarally

26-07-21, 07:31 PM

Thanks Colin. Frustrating that every time I get momentum something always stops me!

As for weight, no idea. Will see if I can rig up some scales and find out!

Attachment wise, it was held on by a pair of these tabs on each pillar (you can see the b pillar ones in previous post pics)

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But just those 6 wont be enough to support it with glass, doors, trunk etc. I could do gusset plates to the cage but seeing as I dont need structural rigidity in the body I want to try and make it bolt on/off if possible. So maybe double up on tabs? Tricky bit is obviously making sure I get a good seal on the bulkheads if making it removable, I have some thoughts on that.

Thanks. Now you point me to them I can see the tabs on the body. It's a neat solution.

Where did you get the tabs from out of interest? Or did you have them made?

If you can weight the body without too much hassle I would certainly be interested. I'm also intrigued by your bulkhead sealing ideas.

As you've probably guessed, making my Nova body removable is one of the future plans. Although I might split mine down the middle so the rear part is removable for engine access.

The Simps

26-07-21, 07:31 PM

No chance to buy the house??

It?s an awesome house but out of our price range realistically. It is also very unique and with that comes expensive upkeep/repairs, which the missus is not keen on!

We will be buying somewhere. It?s a few years earlier than we would of liked but at least now my partner passed her 5yr point since moving here and can now apply for permanent residency and thus get a mortgage.

This is the current place, going to definitely miss it. Been a real pleasure having the opportunity to live here.

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The Simps

26-07-21, 07:35 PM

Thanks. Now you point me to them I can see the tabs on the body. It's a neat solution.

Where did you get the tabs from out of interest? Or did you have them made?

If you can weight the body without too much hassle I would certainly be interested. I'm also intrigued by your bulkhead sealing ideas.

As you've probably guessed, making my Nova body removable is one of the future plans. Although I might split mine down the middle so the rear part is removable for engine access.

Brackets are an ebay item, he does them with rivnuts too - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brackets-inc-M6-nutserts-Riv-nut-Fabrication-chassis-tab-motorsport-race-rally-/274759321922?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

My plan is to make the sealing points be overlapping panels bolted together with some kind of seal between, foam maybe?? Trick is orientating them correctly so it can all still be easily removed!

novarally

26-07-21, 07:36 PM

That is a stunning looking house.

The Simps

26-07-21, 07:51 PM

That is a stunning looking house.

It is a former lodge house, supposedly designed by the renowned architect Anthony Salvin who was quite the man in the mid 19th century for his gothic/tudor style!

The Simps

26-07-21, 07:53 PM

novarally

26-07-21, 08:11 PM

It is a former lodge house, supposedly designed by the renowned architect Anthony Salvin who was quite the man in the mid 19th century for his gothic/tudor style!

I?d love somewhere with some proper character like that. What?s it worth, out of idle curiosity?

novarally

26-07-21, 08:16 PM

Going back to the bulkhead sealing etc, I have no experience of doing such a task. All I know is from watching drift cars and drag cars they always seem to fill up with smoke, so stuffs gonna get through one way or another right? How do you stop engine fumes etc??? Is it therefore more a case of safety from fire or flying objects??

I’ve only ever seen race cars that have removable bodies. And as you say they never seal totally.

In terms of motorsport regulations there is only a requirement to have a sealed bulkhead between the fuel tank and the cockpit, and the engine and the cockpit.

I guess the only solution to that is to make the bulkheads solely within the spaceframe chassis.

The Simps

26-07-21, 08:17 PM

I?d love somewhere with some proper character like that. What?s it worth, out of idle curiosity?

I "think" it's going to go up in the ?7-800k region. Which around here, you can get a lot of nice character for that money. But for someone who falls in love with it...

novarally

26-07-21, 08:18 PM

It is a former lodge house, supposedly designed by the renowned architect Anthony Salvin who was quite the man in the mid 19th century for his gothic/tudor style!

I thought I?d heard of Salvin. He designed Harlaxton House, one of my favourite buildings from my time living in Lincolnshire 😀

The Simps

26-07-21, 08:20 PM

I’ve only ever seen race cars that have removable bodies. And as you say they never seal totally.

In terms of motorsport regulations there is only a requirement to have a sealed bulkhead between the fuel tank and the cockpit, and the engine and the cockpit.

I guess the only solution to that is to make the bulkheads solely within the spaceframe chassis.

I never understood how some of the drag cars get away with having the gearbox and prop exposed inside the cabin, with the gearbox bolting up to the bulkhead??

my thoughts are to try and build the sills into the frame and then have the a and b pillars boxed off at the bottom and bolt down onto the sill sections. Then as long as I can seal up between the frame posts and body pillar posts it could be all good?

The Simps

26-07-21, 08:22 PM

I thought I?d heard of Salvin. He designed Harlaxton House, one of my favourite buildings from my time living in Lincolnshire 

Just looked Harlaxton Manor up and definitely is his renowned style. He did so many projects in his time it was crazy. He was young when he got his big break.

novarally

26-07-21, 08:25 PM

I "think" it's going to go up in the ?7-800k region. Which around here, you can get a lot of nice character for that money. But for someone who falls in love with it...

Out of my league, but it doesn’t sound unreasonable at all.

The Simps

26-07-21, 08:28 PM

Out of my league, but it doesn’t sound unreasonable at all.

Ideal for someone moving up from the south. A lot of properties like this have been selling for silly money this past year with southern money bidding wars and people looking to flee to the countryside.

novarally

26-07-21, 08:32 PM

Ideal for someone moving up from the south. A lot of properties like this have been selling for silly money this past year with southern money bidding wars and people looking to flee to the countryside.

Very much so, the farm we bought in Lincolnshire was ?280k in 2005.

I’d bet that’s worth ?600k now.

My ex-Mrs has done alright out of that

The Simps

31-07-21, 04:23 PM

Engine & box back out. More tube ordered (hopefully for the last time! [emoji13]). More cans of Steel-It ordered. Hopefully this week I can get the rest of the tubes done. Then I can get it onto the rotisserie for welding it all up before painting.

I really want to have all bare metal surfaces coated and the car mostly assembled by the end of August [emoji1696]

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The Simps

31-07-21, 04:25 PM

Very much so, the farm we bought in Lincolnshire was ?280k in 2005.

I?d bet that?s worth ?600k now.

My ex-Mrs has done alright out of that

I think I remember that place. I came and picked up a disked rear beam from you with a mate. Reasonable amount of land from what I remember and you had a big workshop in one of the barns? I guess being a farm it would have plenty of land! [emoji23]

novarally

31-07-21, 08:37 PM

I think I remember that place. I came and picked up a disked rear beam from you with a mate. Reasonable amount of land from what I remember and you had a big workshop in one of the barns? I guess being a farm it would have plenty of land! [emoji23]

Yes, that's the place. I had a big workshop with a 2-post lift, and depending on when you visited I'd subsequently put up another building, of about 1500 sq/ft.

There were various other buildings/stables, many in a state of disrepair. It was just under 5 acres in total.

total_vauxhall

31-07-21, 10:30 PM

I never understood how some of the drag cars get away with having the gearbox and prop exposed inside the cabin, with the gearbox bolting up to the bulkhead??

my thoughts are to try and build the sills into the frame and then have the a and b pillars boxed off at the bottom and bolt down onto the sill sections. Then as long as I can seal up between the frame posts and body pillar posts it could be all good?Drag cars with the prop inside usualy have a tube welded in a strategic place to stop it coming into the cockpit if it fails and the gearboxes are wrapped in a kevlar "diaper"
To stop parts flying all over. Usualy bolted to a mid plate. The bulk head usualy just has to protect you from fire and flying parts. I know in the fwd series we have to have a 150x250x6mm plate bolted to the bulkhead inline with the flywheel and all holes welded up but thats about it. That chassis is looking mint nice work

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The Simps

02-08-21, 08:30 AM

Drag cars with the prop inside usualy have a tube welded in a strategic place to stop it coming into the cockpit if it fails and the gearboxes are wrapped in a kevlar "diaper"
To stop parts flying all over. Usualy bolted to a mid plate. The bulk head usualy just has to protect you from fire and flying parts. I know in the fwd series we have to have a 150x250x6mm plate bolted to the bulkhead inline with the flywheel and all holes welded up but thats about it. That chassis is looking mint nice work

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Ah yes, the diaper, I remember this from a 187 Customs (Murder Nova) youtube episode where he had to fit one for a certain racetrack.

6mm plate! Jeez! But I guess a flywheel ripping through your chassis is no joke!

total_vauxhall

02-08-21, 03:00 PM

Hajaha yea i remember seeing a flywheel and clutch practically cut the front of a civic in half like an 8000rpm 7kg sawblade lol

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The Simps

03-08-21, 06:59 PM

Tube work afternoon today!

Added b pillar door bars each side, grab handle drivers side (help my fat ass over the climbing frame!), and drivers a pillar to turret support.

Hopefully get passenger front turret done tomorrow and hoping so more tube will be arriving!

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NovalutionGSi

03-08-21, 07:09 PM

Sod putting the loon shell back on, run it like that. [emoji106]

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The Simps

03-08-21, 07:10 PM

Sod putting the loon shell back on, run it like that. [emoji106]

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It has crossed my mind! [emoji23]

Iain

03-08-21, 09:14 PM

Confused, have I logged into PNG or Rightmove?

As cool as a removable shell would be, what's the realistic benefit once the car's built?

The Simps

03-08-21, 09:15 PM

Confused, have I logged into PNG or Rightmove?

[emoji23][emoji2369]

The Simps

03-08-21, 09:17 PM

As cool as a removable shell would be, what's the realistic benefit once the car's built?

Might make it easier for repairing the shell when I bin it off on the first corner??

But yes, you are probably right. It?s just a feature really. I wont do it if its not simple enough.

total_vauxhall

03-08-21, 09:29 PM

Never have to worry about rotten chassis legs again lol

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The Simps

11-08-21, 08:55 PM

I had a productive weekend and a few hours today. Floor structure, tunnel, passenger seat brackets, and door bars are now made and tacked in place. I?ve got a couple more bars to add then it?s redo on the rear turrets. Hopefully that can be accomplished by the weekend and I can get it on the rotisserie for welding next week. I?ve then got a chap lined up to media blast the whole chassis before I cover it in Steel-it [emoji4]

A few pics?

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NovalutionGSi

11-08-21, 08:58 PM

Love it... I'm not sure if I want to sit in it (without the shell on) or climb it. [emoji1787][emoji106]

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The Simps

11-08-21, 09:10 PM

Love it... I'm not sure if I want to sit in it (without the shell on) or climb it. [emoji1787][emoji106]

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I?ve done the door bars so I can easily swing my legs in! Lol

The Simps

11-08-21, 09:11 PM

Its certainly a challenge climbing around it tho!

House

12-08-21, 04:53 PM

Go on the Simps

The Simps

12-08-21, 06:49 PM

A pillar support bars this afternoon. I deliberated for a while on how to do these, and originally it was one long bar notched close to the existing door bar, but just didn?t look right. So I ended up doing it in two pieces and I?m much happier with it. Need to do bottom piece on drivers side tomorrow then start chopping out the rear turrets! [emoji85]

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millworm

12-08-21, 07:32 PM

Looks good, seen similar design in a lot of other cages aswell

House

12-08-21, 09:11 PM

Those vertical bars are a great idea, I elected not to have them on mine cos I'm fat and couldn't bend small enough to get in with them there!!

The Simps

12-08-21, 09:14 PM

Those vertical bars are a great idea, I elected not to have them on mine cos I'm fat and couldn't bend small enough to get in with them there!!

I am 18st of man love. I did the dip in the door bars to where my leg swings in. That vertical also acts as grab handle to pull me out. I think my seat is further back too which prob helps.

The Simps

12-08-21, 09:15 PM

I cant decide whether to bother doing a roof diagonal or not. The seats are positioned directly under the main hoop.

House

12-08-21, 09:54 PM

Again I don't have the roof X cos of helmet clearance....not that helmet.....but my seats are in front of the main hoop.

I'd say if you've got the tube and the time then fit it.

The Simps

13-08-21, 07:05 PM

Again I don't have the roof X cos of helmet clearance....not that helmet.....but my seats are in front of the main hoop.

I'd say if you've got the tube and the time then fit it.

That makes a lot of sense. If I?ve got time after doing rear turrets I?ll do one.

The Simps

13-08-21, 07:07 PM

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Lower drivers side a pillar brace tacked in.

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Cars now ready to cut out and redo the rear turrets [emoji51] You can see how much it needs to move by. Its not much, but enough to strain everything.

The Simps

16-08-21, 10:10 PM

Weekends progress?.

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My welder mate buzzing stuff up tonight, more tomorrow!

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House

17-08-21, 02:59 PM

This is getting dangerously close to be finished!!!!

The Simps

17-08-21, 06:49 PM

This is getting dangerously close to be finished!!!!

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The Simps

17-08-21, 06:59 PM

Coming in live from a garage somewhere in Norwich?! Lol

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total_vauxhall

19-08-21, 08:25 PM

Looking mint. And even more to the point that esab looks unreal

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NovalutionGSi

21-08-21, 09:27 PM

Thats looking awesome.
Seems to be a few more Norwich based Novas making their way back to life.
Rich has his GSi running again now.

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The Simps

28-08-21, 08:11 AM

Turrets got finished at the rear along with all other welding the other week

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I decided not to have the whole thing media blasted as I just couldn?t justify the cost right now with moving house. Plus it would of been a lot of faff putting it back on wheels to put on a trailer to then put back on the rotisserie for the blaster, then back on wheels to trailer home to only have to put back on rotisserie again! So I just spent all of last weekend taking everything back to bare metal and given it a good rough surface for keying.

Dad and I starting spraying on Monday but ran out of cans doh! So I?ve re-ordered more but in normal tins for use in a spray gun. We will be hopefully getting a couple of full coats on tomorrow. I will then start bolting parts on the weekend after giving, it a full week to cure. Car should then be ready for moving and storing at its new home without rusting away on me!

More pics tomorrow [emoji1696]

House

28-08-21, 06:11 PM

Yes!!!!

The Simps

29-08-21, 07:45 PM

Well it is painted!

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But what a ballache it was! The stuff is pretty thick and shouldn?t have thinners added and if so, no more than 5%. Dad?s Machine Mart spray gun struggled with it. Needed a bigger nozzle size I think. We had the regulator up to 50psi just to get it out. It would spray but quite stop start so was hard to do long runs. He persisted tho and he did a pretty good job to be fair. It?s not an easy thing to clamber around!

Our make shift spray booth did ok but there was quite a bit of overspray on the frame but I?ve just buffed it with a microfibre and most has come off to a more consistent, light textured finish.

Give it a week to cure now then I?ll start putting it all back together ready for the move.

House

30-08-21, 07:31 AM

Love that, this is gonna be epic when it's done.

I'm guessing you've found somewhere to move to with a good workshop space??

The Simps

30-08-21, 10:02 AM

Love that, this is gonna be epic when it's done.

I'm guessing you've found somewhere to move to with a good workshop space??

Thanks House.

Nope to the workshop.

Current digs has a single door garage but it is 1.5 garages wide inside, which is great (can probably see this from my pics). There is also a room next door to that the size of a single garage that is my tool & store room. I also have a couple of sheds for overflow crap.

New house just has a single garage.

I?m hoping that with most stuff back on the nova I can get it into the garage along with a couple of workbenches & my tool chest, but it is hopeful! Everything else will go into the two sheds I?m bringing with. Come Spring, the plan is to build a simple shed on to the back of the garage to create a tool & store room. Then further down the road as money allows and subject to being able to buy a bit of extra land from the neighbour, build a nice big double garage on the side/back of the house.

nova_niek

01-09-21, 11:57 AM

Nice result! I can imagine the trouble you face when climbing all over the bars to lay down the paint. End result is worth the effort though.

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The Simps

03-09-21, 08:53 PM

Paint is nice and cured so re-assembly has started! Just wish it was final assembly with all clean parts [emoji57] I had considered just giving some bits a quick wire brush & hammerite but it?s just a waste of time and paint as it will be getting upgraded. So stock bits will do for now!

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