Spaceframed SR20DET RWD Nova

[The Simps]

It all fits up...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-12-084.jpg


And onto the car...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-12-085.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-12-086.jpg


Will almost look factory. I just hope the linkage will still work. The reason why I like it being there is I know I won't have to move it again when I have to get choppy choppy to go rwd next year.

[The Simps]

I then slung the car loom into place to see if it goes through the old brake servo hole and it a perfect fit!

I don't want to cut a large hole on the left like normal because I will be going carbs at some point and obviously don't want to be left with a gaping hole. I can also nicely mount the ECU on the inside onto the old glove box mount. Also means I'll be able to umplug the ECU easily too for security.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-12-087.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-12-088.jpg


Can anyone see any potential pitfalls running it like this? Other than the obvious and making sure it clears the alternator & linkage ok.

[The Simps]

top project this one mate, have got to agree with everyone them cav turbo wheels look ace on the sedan. some real work gone into it.


Cheers dude! :thumb: And sedan - another new word for the saloon to go with loon & coupe! lol



i personally would get a cheap respray sorted, i think its got such potential to be a real good looking car with them rims, dosnt have to be mint, just a bit of shiney white paint and itd look sweet.

also has anybody else noticed how many white cars are about nowadays, lol white cars rock!


I better do a change of colour then - matt black anyone?

[trackdaynova]

Nice one Simps :thumb: was good meeting you properly yesterday pal :)

Good on ya for coming and introducing yourself :thumb: :D

[The Simps]

Good to see you too mate! Be good to get some trackdays going next year so I can pick up some driving tips from ya!

[ben doodar]

ha ha. my mate had a nova saloon a while back n i nicked a sedan badge off a 306 sedan n stuck it on his nova, and its stuck ever since. lol
white ftw

[The Simps]

I've booked Michael for Monday after xmas so hopefully by the end of the day I'll have tubbed rear arches! Can't wait :)

[The Simps]

Just realised that I've been working on this car a little over a year now - crikey!

[burgo]

Just realised that I've been working on this car a little over a year now - crikey!not done much have ya :p

i like the way you routed the loom, may well steal that idea

[Benn]

I've booked Michael for Monday after xmas so hopefully by the end of the day I'll have tubbed rear arches! Can't wait :)

Mmmmmmmmmm tubed rear arches.

[John]

really well thought out car, like it!

[The Simps]

Cheers guys.

I just hope I'm not being too optimistic to get 2 tubbed arches done in a day.

[John]

where are you planning on mounting the rear struts at the top? i'm presuming the original mount is going in order to fit the tubs?

[Adam]

Nice work, liking the loom placement, looks very tidy

[The Simps]

where are you planning on mounting the rear struts at the top? i'm presuming the original mount is going in order to fit the tubs?


I picked up a steel tube when I got the metal (4" wide I think) that I plan to cut in half and mount to the side of the tubs. I'll also be moving the mounting point around 2 inches up to allow for more shock movement given how low it is.

Thanks Adam. :thumb:

[Benn]

Guessing the tubs will be like Fears if so on the flat sides cant you weld the tube/brace in between them like mine?

[The Simps]

Yeah, basically.

I got some nice flexi 1mm (I think) sheet for the curve and then some thicker stuff for the vertical side parts.

[Benn]

Sexy! Weld it stright to the sides then just under where the shock mount will be (as thats the bit that will flex most)

[The Simps]

I will use some 4mm on the flat of the strut top mounts.

[Benn]

Cool well you know what i mean. Big tube=win.

[The Simps]

Found a battery last nite and had a play with the new linkage position. It was difficult to test it as you just can't hold onto the motor as its too powerfull, the mount needs to be fixed.

So I had a long hard think about the movement of the linkage/clearance on the servo etc and welded in the bracket.

Hooked up the battery and EPIC fail!

1 - The bracket was just flexing so it needed more strengthening to hold it steady.
2 - As a result of the flexing the bracket snapped lol
3 - The linkage didn'tclear the servo when going round.

I was pi$$ed off at this point so put it down and walked away. I'll have a rethink and come back to it.

I then, determined, went back to the gearstick plate. I played around with the welder and setting and got it right so I could get a decent weld without blowing through. It might look a bit rough but I was getting better as I moved round and even worked out how to weld up the old blow-thru holes. So all in all pleased with that and I'm sure with more & more practice my welding will only improve :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/23-12-08.jpg

[nova ian]

Good going, as you've probably seen in my thread I've done some shocking welding on mine, but also some fairly decent bits, but its all about practice, so good on you for having ago aswell mate :thumb:

[The Simps]

Cheers bud.

Michael is coming over on the tuesday after xmas for some rear arch action! I can't wait :D :D

[burgo]

just mount it in the same place as mine simps. you only have to weld one washer to the wiper mech and job done

[The Simps]

Any pics mate?

[burgo]

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/wiper/

[The Simps]

So you're running just the single wiper then? hwo does it effect the wiper angle using the corsa vertical spindle?

[burgo]

ye just the single wiper but its plenty good enough. the angle of the spindle makes no difference aswell

[The Simps]

cheers bud. looks like another visit to the scrappy for me! lol

[burgo]

the best bit of course is that it plugs straight in aswell :)

[The Simps]

I'm gonna change the plug on mine tho, that ones too big and bulky! lol think of the weight man! lol

[The Simps]

Just had a moment of madness and used my xmas money to buy a set of R1 Carbs! :D

[Jay]

Just had a moment of madness and used my xmas money to buy a set of R1 Carbs! :D

Good lad. :thumb:

[The Simps]

Not good as I also need the basics like driveshafts, clutch, brakes, fuel pump 1st! lol It will be very tight whether this gets done by April.

[Adam]

OllyH has shafts!!!

[The Simps]

Olly was running baby ones! I need equal ones again. I'm holding off on them until last tho as I might have to look down the root of higher strength CVs due to the angle the shafts will be running at so might need some custom shafts made up.

[trackdaynova]

baby shafts rooolz ok :D

[The Simps]

lol

[Ash]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108893 :thumb:

[Benn]

ye just the single wiper but its plenty good enough. the angle of the spindle makes no difference aswell

Will it run both std wipers tho?

[The Simps]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108893 :thumb:


If thats a link to the equal shafts I've already got the fixed bracket and CVs I need the actual shafts. But cheers for the link, a mate was after a set! lol

[The Simps]

Will it run both std wipers tho?


It will need to be cut down Benn.

[krobinson]

When's the shell gettin painted then?? :p :p :p :p :p

[Benn]

It will need to be cut down Benn.

I'm right. Why cant it be simple..

[The Simps]

Ok, so the wiper linkage saga continued today!!

After some picture help from Burgo I devised how I was gonna do it. He used a corsa B setup and mines a Corsa C so a little different but very similar. This is what I ended up with...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/28-12-081.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/28-12-082.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/28-12-083.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/th_28-12-085.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/?action=view&current=28-12-085.flv)


I basically had to cut out the motor mount and swing it round and adjust for clearance of the motor position. I then swapped round the connecting bars and welded it all up. I've welded the assembly to the car but I'm tempted to grind it off and bolt it in instead.

Question now is that I've obviously gone to single wiper. What cars have a good long, straight wiper arm and how do I go about modifying it for a longer sweep?

[The Simps]

Shaun's dad kindly cut out my dash end blank template in aluminium. I've cut out a piece of vinyl off the back of the old seats and just need to glue it all in and work out how I'm going to mount it in place. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/28-12-084.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/28-12-08.jpg

[Benn]

As i said. Love it.

[The Simps]

Any idea on which bit to lengthen/shorten for a longer sweep?

[The Simps]

Excuse the crude drawing but would extending the blue bit work?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/linkage-1.jpg

[burgo]

excellent bit of bodge work. you either lenghen the motor end or shorten the wiper end

[trackdaynova]

gotta love a bit of MS Paint lol

Answer is as Burgo said :thumb:

[Graeme]

When using the std nova set up I extended the wiper end by 8mm and that gave me the sweep required, if that makes sense

[The Simps]

excellent bit of bodge work. you either lenghen the motor end or shorten the wiper end


How dare you use such a dirty word in my thread! :mad: lol

So... either lengthen A or shorten B...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/linkage2.jpg


I've got the othe link bar that ran from spindle to spindle so I'll chop that down and try that 1st as that'll be easier than try to shorten the other bit.

Arches are being done tomorrow :cool:

[ben doodar]

loving the dash

[MK999]

How dare you use such a dirty word in my thread! :mad: lol

So... either lengthen A or shorten B...

I've got the othe link bar that ran from spindle to spindle so I'll chop that down and try that 1st as that'll be easier than try to shorten the other bit.

Arches are being done tomorrow :cool:

Lengthening A will just push the wiper further over on it's sweep, rather than making it wider, ie. it will clear the left half of the screen and not the right, to make it longer you want to lengthen the piece A attaches to which is attached to the motor, if it gets confusing make a cardboard mock up and play around with it til you get the idea? If you make it to scale you could even get the perfect lengths figured out :D

[The Simps]

Lengthening A will just push the wiper further over on it's sweep, rather than making it wider, ie. it will clear the left half of the screen and not the right, to make it longer you want to lengthen the piece A attaches to which is attached to the motor, if it gets confusing make a cardboard mock up and play around with it til you get the idea? If you make it to scale you could even get the perfect lengths figured out :D


I was going it over in my head last night and was thinking the same about lengthening A not working. So I need to either lengthen the connecting piece on the motor or shorten the piece spindle end.

Cardboard mock up sounds good!

[The Simps]

Had a fun day today! Didn't get as much done as I'd anticipated but really pleased with what we've done. I didn't realize how much work was actually involved to do the job. There's a lot of measuring, thinking, cutting, thinking, measuring, thinking, cutting, thinking etc.

There's at least another 2 full days of work left but the other side will *hopefully* be easier now we know how we're gonna do it.

BIG thanks to Michael! Fantastic work as always, he deserves full credit. So here we go....

Ride height at start of the day and very little travel left in the shock...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08002.jpg


The 1st incision...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08001.jpg


The 2nd...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08003.jpg


The 3rd...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08004.jpg

[The Simps]

Lovely clean chassis rails and loads a room!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08020.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08005.jpg

[The Simps]

I originally planned on cutting out the whole inner arch and raising the new inner arch height at least an inch. After looking at it again it doesn't need it. Taking out what we have and tubbing this section will give more than enough clearance all round.


Next up we cut in half a piece of around 5mm thick tubing to use as the upright of the turret. As I aim to run it low, one of the downsides of the stock positions is the damper travel is nearly all but taken away so can easily bottom out. By raising the top mounting point it counteracts this. I wanted to gain around 2 inches. Conveniently, 60mm (just over 2 inches) puts it perfectly in line where the new inner arch would run. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08008.jpg


Shock then positioned up and bottom shock mount moved over...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08011.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08012.jpg

[The Simps]

Another piece of thick plate was then used to complete the top...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08016.jpg

[Benn]

Thats making me wet!

[The Simps]

With the wheel up in place it gives plenty of room for a wider wheel without rubbing the shock/spring and the shock itself has loads of room...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08014.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08013.jpg

[The Simps]

Seeing as I'd raised the top point by 60mm I raised the spring platform up to match and lowered the car down...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08017.jpg

[The Simps]

There's still room to go a little further (if I wanted but really don't think it'd be needed!), and the shock now has plenty of travel to work properly.
From the outside it sits like so...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08018.jpg


To put it into perspective, the coloured in pink (lol) masking tape is where a normal hatch arch would run...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08019.jpg


More than enough me thinks!! :eek: :cool:


Its all tacked in enough so the car can come back down on the floor. I'm hoping to have Michael back for another day in 2/3wks time to finish off this side. This chassis needs plating back in and obviously the metal shaped for tub.


She's got a cool stance now...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08021.jpg

:thumb: :D

[vaughanmc]

Looks mega mega low :)

Will be an awsome bit of kit when its done fella! Top work

[Benn]

That looks fantastic dude, great work.

[The Simps]

Cheers chaps :D

More than certain I'm gonna have to get some custom shorter front shocks from Avo.

[Benn]

Good man!

[trackdaynova]

it looks phenominal on the back Si :thumb:

however you're seriously gonna have to raise the engine in the bay surely, to prevent sump smashes, and manifold problems?

[wilson_sri]

That incredible! Looks mean as fook, awesome stuff.

[Adam]

Top work that!!!! Nice


Loooooowww :cool:

[The Simps]

however you're seriously gonna have to raise the engine in the bay surely, to prevent sump smashes, and manifold problems?


We'll have to see on that one! I'm just relying on the fact that circuits are smooth!! lol If not its dry sump time! lol

[burgo]

saloon ftw :)

[Graeme]

Looking good now mate, when is the next installment coming?

[The Simps]

Carbs arrived today, will gets some better pics up at the weekend. Need to have a good look as to whether they can be respaced as I want it to fit on the manifold with straight runners.

Hopefully Michael will be back in 2 weekends time for another days work.

[ben doodar]

fantastic, awesome work there dude, i even thought bout getting a sedan for a second then......

[Pistol Pete]

Loving your work Simps. Should look cool as ever when finished. Hell it looks good now in the stage it is in!!

[The Simps]

cheers dudes! Makes it all worth doing.

Ben - only for a second?! lol

[Nova_Tek]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08018.jpg


Good work Simps looks like you are puttin a load of time into this. Interesting read for me but I have one question, I hope Im not gonna make myself look like a n00b:

Why does the rear wheel look like its not sitting center of the rear arch and more towards the left?

:thumb:

[The Simps]

Interesting read for me but I have one question, I hope Im not gonna make myself look like a n00b:

Why does the rear wheel look like its not sitting center of the rear arch and more towards the left?

:thumb:


Not a noob at all mate! does look od I know! Was like that before we touched anything...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08122008041.jpg


And other side is the same...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/05-05-085.jpg


I'm guessing a saloon thing maybe?

[The Simps]

anyone got a pic of hatch rear square on with no bumper on (bumper comes into the arch remember!)?

[The Simps]

Here we go! If you look where my old hatch one sits, its right at the front of the arch. If you take the bumper off which wraps around into the arch I bet it would look the same!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20LET%20Build/15042007.jpg

[Nova_Tek]

Hmmm... maybe the absence of the bumper gives that illusion. Hopefully its just that, you'll find out for sure when you do the 4 wheel tracking.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, that red Nova... love it!

[Spudly]

This looks awesome ive just read it through from page one, major attention to detail absolutely spot on:thumb:

As for the rear wheel in the arch this will be because its so low its passed its longest point and is starting to be pulled back in towards the car body the lower you run it due to the beam being in a fixed position, if you raise it then it should in theory return to near center and after so much travel will move back towards the line of the car body the more you move it away if that makes any sense at all?

[BRoadGhost]

The wheel doesn't look like it's centered in the arch because it ISN'T sitting in the middle of the arch.

No loon based illusion - you can see it on the red one above also.

Simple reason is the beam is going beyond the horizontal and shortening the wheelbase. Go measure it - you've lost about 18MM from the rear alone there.

[ben doodar]

Ben - only for a second?! lol
well no, im actually begiing to think about 1 as a next project.
i think its just them cav turbo wheels, they suit that car sooo much. please tell us you are going to have a quick respray just to tidy it all up.

[The Simps]

please tell us you are going to have a quick respray just to tidy it all up.


As I've said many a times it is rock bottom on the shopping list. Its just unneccessary spending imo. Yes it will look prettier but thats not what its built for! The engine bay will be nice, clean, simple and pretty looking - that will be the attraction. The outside will be an illusion as it were.

:thumb:

[The Simps]

The wheel doesn't look like it's centered in the arch because it ISN'T sitting in the middle of the arch.

No loon based illusion - you can see it on the red one above also.

Simple reason is the beam is going beyond the horizontal and shortening the wheelbase. Go measure it - you've lost about 18MM from the rear alone there.


The axle is no longer horizontal, its starting to slope up.

[Rick Draper]

The axle is no longer horizontal, its starting to slope up.

Exactly so the wheel base has been shortened.

[The Simps]

The carbs...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/02-01-09.jpg



David - SLICKCORSA has kindly offered to help me break them down this weekend and see whats involved to re-space them to find the standard XE runners like his bike throttle bodies:-

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4796&d=1223747135
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4799&d=1223747272

On 1st inspection of the carbs it looks like exactly the same needs to be done.

[Adam]

Only probs with splitting the carbs is having to extend the linkage rods etc between the carbs, and the fuel rail that feeds the carb float bowls

[The Simps]

Only probs with splitting the carbs is having to extend the linkage rods etc between the carbs, and the fuel rail that feeds the carb float bowls


David had the linakge bars extended if you look on the pics and had a great job done of it! We'll basically strip them all done and go from there - can only but try!

[Adam]

K,cool. Tis miles easier to keep the carbs standard, and make an inlet to suit. But if your working on a budget then its worthwhile having a mess and seeing what can be done. :)

[The Simps]

You're looking at £150-200 to buy a manifold. Might get lucky and get on for less. I can probably get thecarbs respaced for between £0-50 if its possible. Worth having a go and will give nice straight runners!

[The Simps]

looking at the pic below Adam.

What do A & B need connecting up to? They are listed in the R1 workshop manual as Vacuum chamber vent hose (A) & Float chamber vent hose (B).


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/carbs.jpg

[Nova_Tek]

As I've said many a times it is rock bottom on the shopping list. Its just unneccessary spending imo. Yes it will look prettier but thats not what its built for! The engine bay will be nice, clean, simple and pretty looking - that will be the attraction. The outside will be an illusion as it were.

:thumb:

Personally Id just sort out the probelm areas in a DIY fashion and give it a quick decent spray with rattle cans. Will look tidier but will still have that 'rustic' (sp) look for you to be able to show off your lump

[The Simps]

So the wipers saga continues! I'm determined not to be beaten lol

So, the spindle thats in there at the moment is this one and the rod is connected to the ball joint on the right...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/Image025.jpg


I decided to swap it for the other spindle which was just straight (same length) but the ball joint is not offset. This did give a slightly longer sweep but the link bar was hitting the spindle :mad:

Off came the link bar and I grabbed the spare one for the otherside. Modifications commenced!...

[The Simps]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0047.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0048.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/Image006.jpg

[The Simps]

Success!! It no longer hits and I've got a half decent sweep. There's still a little more room if I want to push it so I'm gonna try shortening a touch the spindle rod. I also need to get a straight wiper arm from the scrappy. But this is what its like so far...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/th_Video003.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/?action=view&current=Video003.flv)

[Adam]

"A" are just left open as there breathers.
Pretty sure "B" is the fuel supply, and as you can see the carbs have kind of a fuel rail inbetween them.....

[The Simps]

Carb update is next, just sorting the pics!

[The Simps]

Onto the R1 carbs next.

Massive thanks again to David for his help today! We set to work stripping the carbs in his cosy warm workshop (:roll:) and now I have 4 individual carbs...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0050.jpg


The spacing should be relatively easy. The choke bracket needs cutting and extended where marked with a black pen and 2 new longer bolts need making up...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0058.jpg

[The Simps]

Spacers need re-making for fuel and others...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0062.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0063.jpg

[The Simps]

The throttle linkages fit together by a little tab that sits between a spring and another top on the ajoining body. The tab just needs lengthening as per David's (last pic)...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0056.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0057.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0045.jpg


Next up is to chop down a standard inlet manifold and so about making up some alloy runners to mate engine with carbs!

[The Simps]

Some questions tho I wouldn't mind having confirmed.


I'm fairly confident this is the fuel in pipe on he back of one of the carbs...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0054.jpg


There's a large pipe one end and a smaller (vacuum size pipe on the far end of the bank of carbs. Nothing came attatched to these - what are they?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0051.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0052.jpg


And finally, referring back to an old picture...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/carbs.jpg


I've been told these breathers are needed and don't connect up to anything. Question is can I take off the stupid black things on A and just leave the pipe exposed one end and the holes in sides of the carbs open? And on B remove the piping and again leave holes in the sides of the carbs? Surely this will invite crap into the carbs?

They are listed in the R1 service manual as:-

A - Vacuum chamber air vent hose
B - Float chamber air vent hose.



Thanks in advance.
:beer:

[Adam]

Yes you can remove the black things, but they have small filters in to stop crap getting into the diaphram chamber covers.

Those thin pipes, one each end of the carb set is for a coolant connection, so isnt needed.

I had a labelled diagram somewhere, will see if i can dig it out.

[draper]

be interesting to see the outcome of the carb modifications

[Benn]

Use bloody macro.

Why are you making them individual?

[Benn]

Those thin pipes, one each end of the carb set is for a coolant connection, so isnt needed.

Why not use them? The warmer must work good for them to have it?

[Adam]

Found some of my old pics of mine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/Pb290006-vent3.jpg
Red-Idle mix screw
Yellow-Fuel bowl drain screws
Blue-Fuel IN

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/Pb290005-vent2.jpg
Coolant circulation circuit, comes the side of the carb at tother end

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/Pipes1.jpg
Blue-Idle speed adjuster
Red-Carb breather circuit(just leave that open and pointing down), it runs to the airbox on the R1 bike originally.


Hope that helps.

[The Simps]

Thats awesome Adam!

So with the coolant pipes, am I best to still connect them up with spacers?

I suppose the breather system is to revent unwanted gasses back in.

[The Simps]

Use bloody macro.

Why are you making them individual?


It was a new camera and I was convinced it was crap compared to my old one despite being 3mps more! Found out why 2 pics to the end!

I'm repsacing because I hate the look of the angled runners and want straight runners from a performance perspective!

[The Simps]

Thought I'd add this pic too for people's reference...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/04-01-0926.jpg

[ben doodar]

would you say that the wiper linkage has suffiant wiping action?

[Adam]

Just leave the coolant pipes open mate, they'll obviously be fine with nothing in them.....

[The Simps]

would you say that the wiper linkage has suffiant wiping action?


For the driver yeah! lol

[The Simps]

Just leave the coolant pipes open mate, they'll obviously be fine with nothing in them.....

Was thinking that. As coolant runs straight through them they aren't going to be going into the carbs anywhere, just acting as a jacket.

[Adam]

Aye :)

[Benn]

It was a new camera and I was convinced it was crap compared to my old one despite being 3mps more! Found out why 2 pics to the end!

I'm repsacing because I hate the look of the angled runners and want straight runners from a performance perspective!

lol allways the way, and cool.

[ben doodar]

lol suppose its you who needs to see where your going after all. top work as ever dude.

[nova ian]

Good work on the carbs mate :thumb: Looks like a good way around not having a custom manifold... :cool:

Some good info about the carbs too, (Nice one Adam!)

Re the coolant pipe that runs across the bank of carbs, I would say there is no point in joining them as you don't use it anyway... But thinking about it could you route the smaller of the two water pipes from the inlet manifold through here and on to the header tank?? I assume thats similar to how the standard water route works on the injection manifold?? Dont know if it would help or make any difference to the running of them.

[The Simps]

lol suppose its you who needs to see where your going after all. top work as ever dude.

:thumb:

[The Simps]

Good work on the carbs mate :thumb: Looks like a good way around not having a custom manifold... :cool:

Some good info about the carbs too, (Nice one Adam!)

Re the coolant pipe that runs across the bank of carbs, I would say there is no point in joining them as you don't use it anyway... But thinking about it could you route the smaller of the two water pipes from the inlet manifold through here and on to the header tank?? I assume thats similar to how the standard water route works on the injection manifold?? Dont know if it would help or make any difference to the running of them.


It will still need a custom manifoild making up. I don't know if you've seen the thread on MIG from the guy from estonia I think who's making a manifold from scratch for his 8v? I'm looking to do something similar. I'm hoping to ally weld some tubes to the ovals on the stock manifold then using weld and dremel smooth them out to the round 40mm top. Gonna take a few man hours but worth it for the results. I just think having the 2 wonkey runners make it looked bodged - just my personal take.

I'm not gonna bother running the water pipe from the head to the tank. I'm gonna plug the hole, it not needed. The theory from what you say is ok except the alternator pipe end is correct ID but the dizzy end (outlet) is tiny like small vacuum size so too much messing out tbh.

I'm just trying to work out in my head how I'm going to run the breathers A & B in the previous diagrams without it looking shoddy. I want rid of the big round black filter thingies but will need to find an alternative!

[ben doodar]

a mate of mine had bike carbs on a 106 rally. he got a inlet manifold gasket coppied that on to a sheet of steel cut it out, and had sum 2" exhaust pipe weldedto it n some samco hoses to connect them up, cost him virtually nothing, am sure you could conjur somthing up simaler if you have to.

[The Simps]

You can easily bodge a cheap manifold together like that and it will do the job. I'd like to come up with something a little better tho! I'm aiming for something like this but welded to a chopped, stock manifiold and welded to look neat.

http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd327/c20letnova/PA170022-1.jpg
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd327/c20letnova/PA170014.jpg

[The Simps]

Above pictures courtesy of this thread:- http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/369086-c20ne-r1-bike-carbs-mod-custom-manifold.html

It really is an interesting read if people like to see machine worker jiggery pokery and attention to detail.

[The Simps]

Can anyone see a problem running this breather system?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/Carbventingv2.jpg


Red is the larger vents referred to as "A" earlier and blue being "B". The green dots being small breather filters.

Or do you think its better that the engine cover has its own filter?

[The Simps]

This is what I'll think I'll do...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/Carbventingv3.jpg

I'll put a bung over the outlet on the far left as it sticks up and out so would look gash with a pipe coming off.

I could even join the others with a 4 way block into 1 filter. But at least those I can route downwards and have it under the manifold out of the way.

[The Simps]

With a lack of funds at the mo its time to get on with the boring free jobs...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-01-09001.jpg

[The Simps]

Got back from the cinema tonight around midnite after watching Role Model (recommend it to anyone - well funny!!) and didn't feel tired so started looking at wiring looms and pealing back tape! My eyes now hurt, my hands are tacky and its certainly time to go to bed!

I'm very lucky its a very basic model, 1ltr carb loom. Its now divided into 3 parts:-

A - Behind Dash (Instrument Panel, Heater Switches, Stalks etc
B - Rear of Car (Rear Lights etc)
C - Engine Bay Loom


The plan is to chop out the midde section and the loom is going to come into the old battery tray area as washer bottlle, wiper motor, servo, heater are all in there now. The light loom will then go out the inner wing, under the wings and back in by the headlights to go to lights, rad, fan & gearbox. All well hidden basically and nice and neat behind the dash. The lights will obviously need swapping but what's being chopped out the middle will be more than enough to lengthen back in. Same goes for the rears which will now run down the right.

I know I cud just swap the wires over at the stalk save all the lengthening etc but I'm happier to do it this way so colours stay as they are to make things easier if a problem comes up.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/09-01-09002.jpg

I'm off to bed!!

[discoinferno]

good work so far mate :D

[krobinson]

If your going to go to so much bother hideing the loom etc, then you'll need some nice paint ;)

[The Simps]

If your going to go to so much bother hideing the loom etc, then you'll need some nice paint ;)


lol :D

The inside and engine bay will be nice fresh paint, definately.

[The Simps]

Got a few hours in today.

Started by tacking in the corsa servo base plate. I've been meaning to do this for ages! While I was there I drilled the whole for the car loom to pass through.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09007.jpg

[The Simps]

So that then nicely led on to the wiring!!

I'd previously stripped the loom and labelled everything up. I wanted to move the main grommit back down towards the fuse box so I seperated the 2 strands (engine bay & rear of car) as far back as they would go which was up to where the indicator wires were all joined up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09003.jpg


There is only one wire (in my loom) that was stopping them being seperated which was the wire that goes from the reverse switch in the gearbox to the rear lights so I cut this, lengthened it and ran it back down the fusebox end and back down the other strand.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09004.jpg


I then pulled the main power cable back through the loom. This is good news because there's plenty of length there to run to a battery pretty much anywhere in the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09006.jpg

[The Simps]

Placed into the car you've got the strand that goes to the dash instruments, a strand for the rear of the car, the power cable and the strand going through to the engine bay.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09008.jpg


Once in the engine bay I seperated the plugs for the Brake MC, Wiper Motor, Heater & Washer bottle. I'm also going to have to run the wire along the scuttle area for the other side indicator. There's another strand for the starter, alternator & oil pressure swith. The other strand is obviously for the lights which will run under the wings and back in again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-01-09010.jpg



It doesn't look like anything needs lengthening, just shortening which is always easier and neater and think how much weight I'm saving! lol Other than the wire for the reverse light all I've had to cut so far is 2 earths which will just need a ring terminal and screwed to the chassis elsewhere

[Ash]

Tidy wiring there, considering re-doing mine now seeing that. You keeping the bulkhead?

Love how low it's sat on the turbo wheels :cool: Top marks for tubbing the rear too.

[The Simps]

Cheers Ash.

Wiring has been a doddle so far. As said, only cut 3 wires to get this far and everything will plug in as it is but I obviously want it tidier. You've just got to take your time stripping it all back and labelling everthing up because you will forget! lol

The bulkhead is staying and I'll be fitting a black scuttle panel with 2 holes for the brake reservoir and washer bottle.

Slammed is the only way frward on loons or the just look daft!

[Ash]

That was my problem, I ripped the loom out the old red one and didn't lable a thing. Jump forward 18 months to when I re-fitted it to the grey old and you can see my problem lol

[The Simps]

lol

[The Simps]

I did the same with an alarm I cut out of a calibra I broke - was a nearly new clifford 600 :tard: Still got it somewhere!

[Benn]

As i've said good work dude. Love what your doing with the loom.

Ash the haynes manual will have all the wiring colours..

[The Simps]

EDIT - just realised I posted the same picture twice at the end there! lol

[Adam]

Good work mate, liking the loom work!

[The Simps]

Cheers.

[Shaun_O'Donnell]

Damn good read so far, loving the wheels, the stance and the dents.

[The Simps]

Damn good read so far, loving the wheels, the stance and the dents.


dents FTW!! lol Cheers Shaun.

[mikey14sr]

Nice work on the loom fella, tidy.

[The Simps]

Picked up one of my front wings during the week. Left it with a mate over christmas who was shaping them for more clearance. I'm really pleased with the results - exactly what I asked for! It will obviously need a bit of filler But it gives me the room I need. I've currently got the coilovers at there lowest setting on an 8" spring and I need to drop around another inch. I've got just about that left I can go now with the modded wings. So looks like a 5 " spring it is which will mean I can bring the spring platform up 2" so there's no risk of it hitting the tyre and give me the extra drop!

Wing before with the straight edge coming down...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/16-10-0811.jpg

[The Simps]

New mods...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/18-01-09001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/18-01-09002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/18-01-09007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/18-01-09008.jpg

[The Simps]

I then carried on with the wiring in the engine bay. Switching it over the other side is turning out to be very easy! Everything basically needs to get shortened which is easy enough and means wires keep the same colours. The only thing I need to lengthen is the reverse switch (mentioned in previous posts), wire to indicator on pass wing, RHD headlight could do with an inch or so to rule out any potential problems and I want to put a switch in to overide the fan so need to run 2 wires back into the car.

Only got one pic then the battery ran out! lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/18-01-09009.jpg


Questions if they can be answered here rather than posting a seperate thread...


- Does anyone have a rad temp switch plug (male part) they wouldn't mind parting with?

- I noticed the ignition wire that goes to the starter has a section soldered in that is quoted as being a resistor cable. Can someone explain why its there and does the resistance vary between engines ie do I need to change it with going from a 1.0 to a 2.0?

- Starter end, where the above resistor cable goes back into a normal black igntion wire, there's another igntion wire coming off with a single connector on the end. I have a feeling it originally went to the coil - can i get rid of this? I take it, it can't be used as a spare ignition feed because the resistor cable inline effects it?

Thanks for reading.

[draper]

i might have the rad switch plug matey, im sorting my shed/garage/loft out (again) tomorrow so can check

good work again aswell

[The Simps]

nice one! Mines just 2 spade connectors at the minute! I guess someone had to put a bypass in at some point in its life. I take it the plugs are the same across all nova's?

[draper]

id guess the same across all vauxhalls tbh

[Benn]

Yeah they are the same, think i have one too.
Remember the loom will need to go over the head light, you lose an inch ish doing that.
Looking look.

[The Simps]

loom needs to go over the headlight?

[Benn]

Yeah, when the loom comes back in to the back, is right next to the headlight, so it needs to go up and over it.

Wings cool cool, see Mig for rest of reply..lol

[The Simps]

Oh yeah! It comes in just above the indicator plug and clears everything. I've got it running under the slam with the old trick of just tucking the conduit underneath and running the clips from the inside.

[Benn]

Ah cool just checking and yeah same as mine.

[The Simps]

I should of done it on my red one really but never did. Just ran it down the sides with conduit neatly but then hid it going across the slam.

[Benn]

Its allways a nice neat trick, really cleans the bay up.

[burgo]

i took mine down the other side, dunno why now tho thinking about it. the way youve got it does make more sence. i assume you took the engine wiring through the bulhead behind the engine to hide that?

[The Simps]

i took mine down the other side, dunno why now tho thinking about it. the way youve got it does make more sence. i assume you took the engine wiring through the bulhead behind the engine to hide that?


Running bike carbs so no engine loom to speak off, but if I were it would go through the old brake servo hole.

The wires for starter, alternator etc will go through the normal hole with the fat red going to a bulkhead connector next to where the main loom comes through.

[bowman]

some nice work there matey, given me some tips for mine!

you fitting plastic windows?

[The Simps]

Cheers.

I plan too yep.

[mayhem]

just went through the thread, looks great!

btw, the belgium saloon you posted on page 7 has airride;) so its easy to go low on the rear

[bowman]

Cheers.

I plan too yep.

hmmm.... fancy selling me the quarter glass?;) do you know the hatch windows are bigger, so you'll probs need to make your own quarter windows.

[The Simps]

hmmm.... fancy selling me the quarter glass?;) do you know the hatch windows are bigger, so you'll probs need to make your own quarter windows.


Mates dad works at a boat builders so gonna make a cardboard template and hand them to him to cut. Once I know they're all done mate you're more than welcome to them :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Some interesting ideas - i like your style and persistence but i can help feeling your new found lowness will only cause you more hassle than good given my own experiences with clearance in several areas.

Drive shafts - mine touch the rear of the inner wing when i go low and the angle looks painful as hell - this can be avoided by altering castor so the wheels come towards the front of the car (i don't know if you plan on doing and castor adjustability mods?)

Exhaust manifold and mid system silencer/engine sump/gearbox sump - these foul everything with the rear low (i did the rear turreting similar to how you have and i bearly utalise the ability to drop it that low as its a complete PITA and mine isn't driven in anger)

TCA angle

Tie bar clearance on the gearbox - you will need to space these down if you arn't going custom tie bars.

I know yours is track based but you will still have to ge the car there - if you drive it you will definately have touble with the above...i couldn't get out of my garage and its only a gradual foot and a half long slop.
If you trailor it the trailor will have to be low and the ramps long as it wil foul midway down the car and end up like a seesaw!

Like Olly said earlier you may have to consider engine positioning etc to overcome this.

This may sound over critical but it isn't ment like that, its purly a warning from my experience. If you look at some of the pics of my car from the NEC the rear is quite high even though i can get the whole tyre under the arch, its just too annoying to bother because of ground clearance.

Please feel free to prove me wrong i wont mind :D essay over :thumb:

[The Simps]

Nope, know exactly what you're saying and thanks for taking the time to post!

The plan is to position the suspension as reasonably low as it can go without massive mods to the front arches. Its easy then to come upwards rather than getting it all done and wishing I wish I could go lower (sorta what Olly started doing).

Driveshafts - yes this will be a problem. Not having any yet to put in situ I can't comment. I know my old red ones sat VERy close to the rear part. I've got a few spare cv's I'll be taking on the first trackday! lol I'm not too worried about this tho as its not an issue when I go rwd (which I hope to next year).

Exhaust - downpipe has 3-4" as it standards, more than Olly had, due to the 16s I think and on track I'll be running the 50 profile tyres too. Running the cav shifter the centre boxes can be tucked right up. I will be running side exits and cutting the sills. The silencers will be tucked up where the fuel tank used to be.

The tie bars have already been lowered and sit on the bottom of the TCA and lowered on the front x-member. I may put them lower yet at the front. The TCA is actually sitting pretty flat if at the mo with only a very slight upturn. I'd love to run a custom setup but its not on the immediate list of things to buy to get it running!

Road or trailor it will be an ass! The coilovers are pretty easy to raise and lower so will just have to live with that!

It just looks so dam cool! lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

There is no argument over the sexuality of the stance thats for sure!

[The Simps]

male?

[Count Vaux Alot]

lol i think its Bi....a bit for both

[The Simps]

lol

[trackdaynova]

rep for you Simon for building such an awesome looking car, love the wiring down the outer wings :)

[Count Vaux Alot]

i'll quote you when i do it on mine.....

[The Simps]

i'll quote you when i do it on mine.....


You can't copy me!! Besides its way too much hassle for what you gain. I wouldn't ever do it again :roll:


On another note, got my other wing back today and my Megajolt arrived in the post today too!

[Benn]

i'll quote you when i do it on mine.....

Hidden wiring rules.

[The Simps]

rep for you Simon for building such an awesome looking car, love the wiring down the outer wings :)


Thank you. That and my terrible joke rep have pushed me up to "jewel in the rough" lol

[trackdaynova]

:thumb: i never actually knew you could hover over the rep to see what it says lol

I agree to a certain extent about the wiring, on a trackcar, i find that hiding the wiring so there isn't easy quick access to it, is kinda own-goal-ish lol

EDIT: apparently I have a 'brilliant future' lol lol lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

You can't copy me!!

Now were have i seen some one turret a saloon before? lol lol

Now now if you didn't want people to use your ideas i wouldn't have posted them on the net!

Besides i was only winding Olly up as he isn't usually into form over function lol

[Benn]

You can't copy me!!!

Pfft you copied me bar its on the left insted of the right...lol

[trackdaynova]

Besides i was only winding Olly up as he isn't usually into form over function lolamen to that brown brother :thumb: *high fiiiiiiive*

[The Simps]

the plan is to put plugs in key places so it will be very functional.

It also serves the function that there is less restrictions in the engine bay for perfect airflow as its all out of the way :wtf:

I havn't copied you on the turrets! Firstly I've ony turreted one side and I'm going to leave it wide open so I can keep an eye on the tyre tread from inside the car ;) Functional yet again!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08016.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

I havn't copied you on the turrets! Firstly I've ony turreted one side and I'm going to leave it wide open so I can keep an eye on the tyre tread from inside the car ;) Functional yet again!


And i haven't copied your loom...they are ideas that every one has and shares so others can benefit too.
I can't see you not turreting both sides? And it might get a bit wet inside if it rains.....

[trackdaynova]

lol i was only messing with my comments Si :thumb: :D

[The Simps]

lol ok. I give up. I've been joking and i thought you were but now i don't now! lol sarcasm fail?

[Count Vaux Alot]

I was joking but i though you were getting a bit serious too lol sarcasm fail? lol.....i'm going to bed lol

[trackdaynova]

I was joking, but then thought you took my comments about functionality to heart, so I backed out :( lol hug?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Group hug!

[The Simps]

Group hug!


You were planning this all along you big woofter!! Group hug (and squeeze!) I know your game!!!







lol

[nova ian]

Any news on this mr simps??? Little birdie told me you have an ecu? :D

[The Simps]

hey bud.

Larndersport is making my manifold for me in his spare time so thats on the go. I'm still doing the wiring - very slowly! lol And yes, I have picked up a Megajolt ECU! Just need to get a ford EDIS-4 system to get it all working.

Its all coming together slowly. Money & time are issues at the moment. I can't see me having it out this year tbh :(

[nova ian]

Tell me about it, the old money and time is always the dark cloud above...

Shame you don't think it will be ready this year, but keep at it mate every bit of progress is still progress thats the way I look at it :cool:

[Count Vaux Alot]

I can't see me having it out this year tbh :(

Honestly boyo are you pulling my leg?! Get on with it....and you Ian! lol

[nova ian]

Honestly boyo are you pulling my leg?! Get on with it....and you Ian! lol

Mine will be done this year! :p :D

[The Simps]

I still need to buy shafts, diff, seats, brakes, turrets building, clutch that I can think of off the top of my head. At least £1k there.

[nova ian]

Sure does add up like you say.

Are you going to be mapping your ecu yourself?
Also hows the carb spacing going? have you bolted them back together or do you still need some parts to do so?

[The Simps]

As its only ignition mapping I'll have a go myself. I've got a base map for XE on 45s (I think!) so won't be a million miles out.

The carb spacing should be relatively simple, just time taken to machine bits. Once Shaun has finished the manifold we can then look to measure up what we need for the spacers etc.

[Count Vaux Alot]

I recon i have at least 2k worth of bits left to source lol

[The Simps]

I gave up my Audi saving me £500pm then my lodger goes an moves out losing me £450pm!! Sods law.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Rubbish!

[vx kev]

Lovin the build so far :D
Some read like :eek:
Turbo rims all the way ;)

[The Simps]

cheers.

hoping to get all the wiring done and ticked off the list this weekend.

[The Simps]

With no pussy to cater for this weekend I'm determined to check some jobs off the list. I was going to get the wiring done but needed to multi plugs first so went down the scrappy this morning and filled up my toolbox! lol While I was there I picked up a citreon zx wiper linkage and bracket.

I need to get the wiper sorted before I can finish the wiring so I know where things run. Out came the old setup I made and fitted up the new one (motor not yet fitted)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-02-09001.jpg

Much better!!

Just had to work out how to mount it so decided on making up some brackets using some box like so...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-02-09002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-02-09004.jpg

Wire wheel then came out...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/14-02-09005.jpg


I put it all back on and tacked the brackets to the bulkhead - brilliant I thought! But no. I couldn't then remove the linkage without having to break the tacks off! lol

I then spent the next 30mins staring at it trying to work out a tidy way of doing it but nothing has immediately come to mind so I walked away, will sleep on it and go back tomorrow - any suggestions?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Is the corsa brake set up done and dusted? What wiper arm are you using? I should be receiving mine in the week so you can always wait to see how i do it lol lol

All i can suggest now (without having it in my hands to actually see) it to try fitting it with nuts and bolts so everything is removable ie not welded.

[bowman]

definatley interested in how this works out, i would go for a bolt on set up though, would'nt fancy welding somthing french to my car LOLlol

Is the linkage just to stiff and cracking the tacks?

[The Simps]

Is the corsa brake set up done and dusted?

The plate has been tacked in. Will get my welder mate to blast all the way round it with his bigger MIG and much more talent! lol I won't chop the pedal to the clutch cable is in place etc just in case. Going to see how it feels before looking to strengthen it anymore.



All i can suggest now (without having it in my hands to actually see) it to try fitting it with nuts and bolts so everything is removable ie not welded.

I got a wiper arm from the ZX too but its a too long. I'd also bought a few weeks back a corsa B setup with brand new storm single wiper conversion fitted to it but fitting the corsa stuff is just an ass! I've end up using the arm off that kit.

Regarding just bolting it up. Prob is the other side of the bulkhead is that hollow tube section and don't really want to go cutting it out.

I had thought about welding the brackets lower down and using some longer bolts with nuts halfway up the thread but it might be too weak + look gash!

[The Simps]

definatley interested in how this works out, i would go for a bolt on set up though, would'nt fancy welding somthing french to my car LOLlol

Is the linkage just to stiff and cracking the tacks?


It all works tacked in and only the little brackets out of box section are welded on the linkage still unbolts. Problem is you have to pull the assembly down for the spindle to pass back down but of course the brackets are in the way. :tard:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Regarding just bolting it up. Prob is the other side of the bulkhead is that hollow tube section and don't really want to go cutting it out.


Could you not turn the whole thing round and make up a bracket to bolt it to the front edge? if that makes sense? :confused:

[The Simps]

Heater is in the way.

[Count Vaux Alot]

a la Olivers attempt

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/neocapture/nc0597.jpg

[bowman]

you ditch the heater and fit one of these under the dash!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Powerful-200W-12V-Ceramic-Car-Heater-ID-403_W0QQitemZ390012347068QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cam pervan_Caravan_Accessories?hash=item390012347068&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1308

thats my plan anyway!:)

[The Simps]

The ZX one appears to be different to the AX ones.

There is another bolt hold tab that is along the middle edge on the other side to the others (can't see it in pics). That lines up so I could bolt it to the gutter the bonnet sits in but thats not really tidy enough tbh.

Thinking about it, the spindle clamp to the scuttle take the weight on the left so if I just welded the rhd bracket as per my original plan, it should still let me pull it clear. Maybe. lol

[The Simps]

^^ I had one of those before Bowman years ago in my red nova when I ran it stripped and they're crap!! lol

[Benn]

Utter crap.

Comming along tho dude.

[The Simps]

And so on with the show!

Long hard think and several cups of tea later I made some more bracketry!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/15-02-09002.jpg


To fit like so...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/15-02-09003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/15-02-09004.jpg


And proof i works :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/th_15-02-09007.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/?action=view&current=15-02-09007.flv)


You can just make out in the pics that the motor and bracket does move slightly when it hits the end on the drivers side to come back. I'm fairly confident tho that when I do the bolt attaching it to the bracket up tight it will stop it.

The setup is completely removable and the bracket utilises an existing captive nut that the brake pedal assembly would have attached too. I'm gonna leave it all in for now while I finish up the wiring then when its out I'll chop off the excess metal and beef up the welds :D

[The Simps]

Back onto the wiring and now I had some more connectors I finished off the single multiplugs for the headlights so they're easier to remove...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/15-02-09001.jpg


I then sussed out and chopped the rest of the wires in the bay to length then laid out the wires to the rear and they'll be nothing to chop out here if I don't want to but we'll see. Just need an assistant then I can get it all soldered up then just need to run the wires for a few switches, fuel pumps etc.


My "dumb" question today is my rad fan is mounted engine side - do I want it to suck theair through or blow back forward through the rad?

[Count Vaux Alot]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/15-02-09002.jpg


Fuuck my old boots that could have sunk the titanic are you sure the nova doesn't move around the wiper now lol nice to see you have over come though :thumb:

[The Simps]

Might be a little overkill but it was easier to chop some of that down than chop into some sheet! lol

Don't dare even think about how much weight is in it tho...

[AlexW]

Fan wants to suck if its on the engine size.

I like the wiper setup, would like to do away with my standard setup but dont want a single wiper, so i think my only real option is to cut and weld the corsa settup.

[Rich]

I know its a random question, do you know what dealer the car was sold from? I work at the kingston branch (previously lance own, now know as Now vauxhall)

[The Simps]

I know its a random question, do you know what dealer the car was sold from? I work at the kingston branch (previously lance own, now know as Now vauxhall)


Sorry mate, not a clue! Why do you ask?

[The Simps]

Fan wants to suck if its on the engine size.

I like the wiper setup, would like to do away with my standard setup but dont want a single wiper, so i think my only real option is to cut and weld the corsa settup.


2 wipers can be done using the corsa B setup just takes time planning out how to mount it.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Update??? its been a week! lol

[Graeme]

Where are the tubbed arches up to?

[The Simps]

only got a couple of hours on it this weekend gone. Was fettling with the gearbox mount as theengine wasn't sat true. Gonna be drilling 2 new holes in the mount this week on my mates pillar drill as I snapped 2 drill bits trying to do it with a normal hand held drill! :doh:

tubbed arches havn't changed but the hope is to have michael back either march or april to finish them.

[ben doodar]

This is what I'll think I'll do...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/Carbventingv3.jpg

I'll put a bung over the outlet on the far left as it sticks up and out so would look gash with a pipe coming off.

I could even join the others with a 4 way block into 1 filter. But at least those I can route downwards and have it under the manifold out of the way.

hiya mate, just noticed this and thought where are u getting the vacum for the brake servo from? as ive never heard much talk of this obviously it would come from the inlet manifold but have never actually noticed it on any pictures?
great work as allways by the way.

[The Simps]

hi ben, I'll be welding a thread for the vacuum to the bottom of one of the manifold runners.

[Count Vaux Alot]

I thought you had just updated your wip....silly me lol

[Benn]

Yeah get out there and get on with it.

[The Simps]

I thought you had just updated your wip....silly me lol


If only i was a member I'd neg rep you!

[Count Vaux Alot]

If only i was a member I'd neg rep you!

For why? personally i would focus that anger to something more positive such as your car....

[The Simps]

lol

I was gonna go up tonight when I finished work but it started snowing and its cold up there. Plus I need a 2nd person to help finish off the wiring and Shaun's a bigger woos than I am!! lol

Maybe I'll be able to get up there this weekend.

The manifold is getting close to being finished anyway.

[Benn]

Whats being done to the manifold?

[The Simps]

Its being made! lol

Shaun's making it for me at work. Chopped up an xe inlet, making 4 straight runners to weld to it that go to the carbs then the carbs respaced. All the r1 manifolds I've seen have wonky runners cos the carb spacing is wrong. I wantd them straight.

[Benn]

Ah i remember.

[The Simps]

No progress to report sadly only that the manifold is really coming along now and hopefully welded up over the coming week or so (pics when I see it again). Its another weekend where I'm just to busy to get down there but I hoping to do a couple of hours tonight, maybe.

I have however, put a shopping list together of what I still need to get it running and its scary!!


EDIS 4 Setup (£45)
Bottom Pulley with Trigger Wheel (£50-100)
Custom Plug Leads (£40)
Sausage Filter (£50-100?)
Flywheel (£20)
Clutch (£200)
Brake Bias (£40)
Brake Pads & Discs All Round (£100)
Brake & Fuel Lines (£30)
Fuel Tank (£50)
Fuel Pumps & Regulator (£100)
Driveshafts & CVs (£200)
Bucket Seats (£100-£650)


Thats what I can think of right now and christ the "little things" add up! lol

I'm booked a weeks holiday 1st week of May so the plan is to get as much saved up between now and then and have a blitz week.

Sorry for a sadly, nothing update :(

[dj_wudgey]

will be a right car when finished this!! keep it up matey!! and work on the mustard yellow turbo aswell??

[The Simps]

Cheers dude.

We need to get the engine out of Shaun's so he can start his changes but again its time!

[djbrowney]

sounds good mate, i must pop over sometime im in norwich most days with work now, what sort of trigger wheel/ pulley you gonna run ?

[Benn]

I have however, put a shopping list together of what I still need to get it running and its scary!!


EDIS 4 Setup (£45)
Bottom Pulley with Trigger Wheel (£50-100)
Custom Plug Leads (£40)
Sausage Filter (£50-100?)
Flywheel (£20)
Clutch (£200)
Brake Bias (£40)
Brake Pads & Discs All Round (£100)
Brake & Fuel Lines (£30)
Fuel Tank (£50)
Fuel Pumps & Regulator (£100)
Driveshafts & CVs (£200)
Bucket Seats (£100-£650)




What the hugely pricey bottom pully and trigger wheel? Whats up with the std one?
Custom leads? Why?

[John]

What sort of driveshafts are you running for £200?

[The Simps]

I need a 36-1 trigger wheel to run the ford EDIS-4. Chris Astley can do me an all in one alloy jobby with single V. I havn't even got a standard one you see. Besides, when the engine gets flipped round at some point in the near future it will be on display so a nice shiny, one piece pulley is a must! lol

I need a set of leads that have vaux one end and ford the other (for coilpack) not sure where to get these made yet so price is a big guess tbh.

Driveshafts will be equal length ones which are around £150 new then I need some CVs. I've already got the equal bracket.

Browney, more than welcome to drop by but bear in mind the car is 25mins outside of norwich and I work 12hr days during the week! lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

H&H ign solutions do custom leads i think....

[The Simps]

Cheers James, will look into it.

[Rich]

Sorry mate, not a clue! Why do you ask?

I work for the ex lance owen kingston branch, now known as Now Vauxhall. Bit of usless information for everyone lol

[krobinson]

Keep at it Simps, do you think you'll have this out in 2009?>

[Count Vaux Alot]

lol /\

[krobinson]

2019?? lol