Spaceframed SR20DET RWD Nova

[L14MNP]

Lovely 14a there mate. :)

I must say though, you are the only person I have ever known to search one out with cream leather! Most of the boys swap their newer registered cars back to black!

Have fun!

[The Simps]

Cheers Limp. Drove it for the 1st time today and although i wasnt able to push it I can tell its gonna be fun! Same power as my old nova but more refined. I know what you mean about the leather but I think when clean it looks more luxurious and is a great contrast against the black.

Another thing Limp - I've got a set of 18x7 technomagnesia detroit f1s in 4 stud nissan fitment i need rid of. Where would u suggest i advertise them to get the primera/almera gti crowd interested?

[Spudly]

Ooooh arent nissan 4x100 like vauxhalls, may be of interest to cav owners too lol

[MK999]

Glad you're liking rear wheel drive :d Mate at work has one in a slightly worse off condition but higher spec, they're proper mean looking cars as they skulk along the ground :) I like the plate too, might have to borrow it for the Nova? A'll Gt U! Although being a track car we could just have some "ILL GET U" plates made up, possibly with "GOT YOU!" On the back?

[The Simps]

Plates is for sale as it happens mate! Lol Got another of my own to go on.

Spud - not vaux fit sadly. 4x114.3 or something stupid.

[MK999]

Plates is for sale as it happens mate! Lol Got another of my own to go on.

Spud - not vaux fit sadly. 4x114.3 or something stupid.

Call it a chassis design? That'd be mint for my yellow machine lol

[The Simps]

Would love to but need the cash! Lol

[John]

ggrrrrrr, where are the nova updates! lol

[MK999]

Would love to but need the cash! Lol

Tenner? lol

[L14MNP]

I'm not sure Simps. I want shot of my RL7's in the same flavour. I was just gonna try eBay and Driftworks as the S13's are 4x114.3, Primera's as you say (all except P12) and N15 Almeras will all be suitable candidates.

I get what you mean about the leather too. I'm not against the cream as such, just I have never been in any with it. The three my mates have/have had are all black.

If you need any parts drop me a PM. I'm mates with a lad that has just broken an RB25DET damson one and there's always bits floating around from others - if you're stuck.

[The Simps]

With the proceeds of my parts clearout this last few weeks I ordered a welder today :)

Blame MK999 for no progress this weekend tho as I'm messing around with his stinky diesel!

That is all.

[Count Vaux Alot]

You will start getting neg rep for rubbish updates at this rate - mind you i like the sound of a new welded :)

[Paul]

Oo what you gone for?

[MK999]

With the proceeds of my parts clearout this last few weeks I ordered a welder today :)

Blame MK999 for no progress this weekend tho as I'm messing around with his stinky diesel!

That is all.

Considering I am to blame for most of the progress so far that's not so bad :p

Besides, you got nothing to weld yet lol

[The Simps]

Made a start tonight. Got the base plates tacked in & started offering up the cage. More at the weekend!

[The Simps]

Made a start tonight. Got the base plates tacked in & started offering up the cage. More at the weekend!

[John]

Pics or gtfo (lol)

[MK999]

You've done what now? :eek: lol

[The Simps]

Would of done but more fun not to! :p

[Count Vaux Alot]

Pics or gtfo (lol)

Agreed...pics or it didn't happen lol

[The Simps]

Fine, didnt happen. I dont care lol

[Pistol Pete]

Just because you have done some work, doesnt mean you can post twice about it lol

[The Simps]

Lol

[MK999]

Just because you have done some work, doesnt mean you can post twice about it lol

He probably didn't believe it himself.

[Andy]

yawn
unsubscribed

[Mazz]

yawn
unsubscribed

lol

[The Simps]

How's this for a little proof....?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/07-04-112.jpg


There really isnt alot to show yet at this stage, hopefully be the weekend finish there will tho. Have treated myself to some new toolage in prep too...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/07-04-114.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/07-04-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/07-04-113.jpg

[Benn]

About time. Good man.

[The Simps]

All good things come to those who wait!

[Benn]

Enough waiting!

[MK999]

I see you took my advice on the 151 too! :d Least there's more than one tool in there now lol

[The Simps]

I see you took my advice on the 151 too! :d Least there's more than one tool in there now lol


Cheeky! I was going with the 135 but this one came up 2nd hand through a mate. Dirty but barely used.

[The Simps]

Well just got in from a very looooonnnnnnnggggg day but pleased with what was achieved! I took more pics but with the light poor and the iphone not having a flash they didnt come out :( But here's what I got....

Started by welding the back edge of the foot plates as once the tube is in place it wont be easy to get to. So 1st time for well over a year doing a bead of weld it wasnt tooo bad...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-112.jpg


Then on to the next three...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-113.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-114.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-115.jpg

[The Simps]

Got the a piller tubes in place where I wanted them next with the handy use of some cable ties then tacked it into place...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-116.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-118.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-117.jpg

[The Simps]

Main hoop was up next and it needed some pursuading to say the least but happy with the final position and laid down some nice slugs too :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-119.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-1110.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-1111.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-1112.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-1113.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-1114.jpg

[The Simps]

Started fettling with the windscreen bar next and just need to finish that up hopefully in the morning. So this is where I'm up to....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/08-04-11.jpg

[The Simps]

A downside to the whole affair is that due to the snugness of the fit the body has been stretched and most of the dents in the roof have now popped out :(

[stupot89]

fook me i thought this was a few bean tins now lol get a move on man lol

nice update though keep at it

[MK999]

A downside to the whole affair is that due to the snugness of the fit the body has been stretched and most of the dents in the roof have now popped out :(

Hammer time.lol

[The Simps]

Went up there again today and got the roof/windscreen bar in...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/10-04-11.jpg


Then I got cracking with welding everything in and the wire ran out :mad:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/10-04-112.jpg


Will try n get some more wire in the week. Not sure when I can get up there next, hopefully sunday night.

[MK999]

What setting are you using on the rollcage stuff? doesn't look like it's penetrating much to me

[The Simps]

Its on setting two. Its penetrating ok. I can see the tube burning through as I push the weld along.

[MK999]

I would crank it up to 3 min/3 max for that depending how slow you're moving, very much doubt it would start blowing through.

[The Simps]

I'll blast a small off cut i've got and see what the crack is. Tube isnt "that" thick tho.

[MK999]

I'll blast a small off cut i've got and see what the crack is. Tube isnt "that" thick tho.

Your plates should be though, 3mm? Which means you can stay away from the tube ever so slightly, get good penetration into it all, being a tube up against a 3mm plate it's also quite a chunky construction in general so tends to act like a big heatsink.

[Ben]

penetration looks spot on to me in the shots of the half welded parts.

[The Simps]

penetration looks spot on to me in the shots of the half welded parts.

What about the tube to the plate in the last pic?

[Iain]

I would crank it up to 3 min/3 max for that depending how slow you're moving, very much doubt it would start blowing through.

3min/3max settings are quite different from eachother, no?

I believe (and this manual looks to back me up (http://www.clarkeservice.co.uk/manuals/mig_welders/mig110e-160en.pdf)) on the 151TE the settings go (lowest) MIN 1, 2, 3, MAX 1, 2, 3 (highest) so he'll want MAX 2 or 3 for this work?

[The Simps]

3min/3max settings are quite different from eachother, no?

I believe (and this manual looks to back me up (http://www.clarkeservice.co.uk/manuals/mig_welders/mig110e-160en.pdf)) on the 151TE the settings go (lowest) MIN 1, 2, 3, MAX 1, 2, 3 (highest) so he'll want MAX 2 or 3 for this work?

Thats very interesting! I assumed it would be min 1, max 1, min 2 etc

[MK999]

3min/3max settings are quite different from eachother, no?

I believe (and this manual looks to back me up (http://www.clarkeservice.co.uk/manuals/mig_welders/mig110e-160en.pdf)) on the 151TE the settings go (lowest) MIN 1, 2, 3, MAX 1, 2, 3 (highest) so he'll want MAX 2 or 3 for this work?

That indeed would be what I meant, haven't used mine in a while now :( Probably getting confused with the old snap on settings also

[Iain]

I have the same 151TE and have always used the settings order as above, going by what the manual has said. :)

I think the other Clarke MIG models use the MIN1, MAX1 etc etc order which is quite confusing?!

[The Simps]

Looks like the smaller models go they way we thought Mark, its just the higher ones that are different.

[MK999]

Looks like the smaller models go they way we thought Mark, its just the higher ones that are different.

Yeah mine is a higher one, same as yours but it's got a bottle holder and wheels lol

[The Simps]

Mines got a bottle holder & wheels!!

[MK999]

Mines got a bottle holder & wheels!!

can't remember what the difference is then, thought it was that.

Just looked it up, yours has a hobby bottle holder? Mine has a platform for man bottles, rather than little girly bottles :p

[The Simps]

Still doesn't make your welding any better tho..... :p

[Count Vaux Alot]

You both weld like the pair of homo's that you are! lol

[Longdogcharlie]

Looking good Simon. will have to get them both on a track day somewhere when they are finished. !!

[The Simps]

Looking good Simon. will have to get them both on a track day somewhere when they are finished. !!


I'm not sure that word is allowed to be used in this thread! lol

[dj_wudgey]

this any further this motor?? i hope so it will be a awesome piece off kit this

[Benn]

Its looking good Mr Day.

[The Simps]

this any further this motor?? i hope so it will be a awesome piece off kit this

Been having the odd hour on it here n there welding panels, tubes etc. Will get some better pics when I'm next up there. Just never looks like much to show! lol



Its looking good Mr Day.

Cheers bud. Slowly getting there.

[Benn]

Shouldn't you be getting the frame from the diff and sh*t in before doing the cage?

[The Simps]

The cage & rear end, gearbox etc are all one structure. The car is no longer structural. The cage is the chassis.

[Benn]

Ah, space framing... Nice.

[blue_peg_16v]

simps pull ya finger out lol awsome work mate looking forward to seeing it on the mistrals dont leave it for long though mate i may have them away while your not looking lol

[The Simps]

Ah, space framing... Nice.

Yep. All tags into the rear hoop so needed that in first...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/Novachassis.jpg



simps pull ya finger out lol awsome work mate looking forward to seeing it on the mistrals dont leave it for long though mate i may have them away while your not looking lol

I'm spending what free time I can up there but its near on impossible nights as I just dont get home from work in time and cant work up there past 9pm cos of the neighbours. Weekends its trying to fit everything in! Just waiting on Mark to sort me some info out then I can find out how much the rear section is gonna cost me to get the tubing bent & supplied! :eek:

[Longdogcharlie]

the tubing looks great, I made somethink similar for a rangerover external roll cage. It looks like a lot of work, but will be worth it in the end. it will be ace rear wheel drive.

I know how you feel mind with the "not enough hours in the day" senario

have a good few bank holidays coming tho so that should help things.

[Paul]

I thought this had been scrapped ;)

[The Simps]

So a few pics of what I've been up to (mainly fluffing about practising my welding!). lol

The drivers front base plate is all welded in. I made some small plates up to fill the gaps to the sill then blasted over the lot to make it look tidy...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-1112.jpg


I then set about tidying the front of the sill where it had been chopped off. So this is how it was...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-1110.jpg


Trim that back to shape...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-116.jpg


Bit of CAD and make a plate and tack it in...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-115.jpg


Blast round it...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-114.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-113.jpg


Smooth it all back...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-112.jpg


Then the next plate in place...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-1111.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-117.jpg


Just need to put the little fillet piece in next.

I'd also previously tidied up the area above along the seem. Its hard to see, but when you grind it back there is 3 parts to the skin and they need tieing back in.

Passenger side, unwelded...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-118.jpg


Drivers, welded...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-119.jpg


Some might wonder why I'm farting around doing this but it will all hopefully come clear soon! In hindsight I wouldn't have use the base plates that came with the cage and use some normal square bent plate but oh well, I'll know next time!

[The Simps]

the tubing looks great, I made somethink similar for a rangerover external roll cage. It looks like a lot of work, but will be worth it in the end. it will be ace rear wheel drive.

I know how you feel mind with the "not enough hours in the day" senario

have a good few bank holidays coming tho so that should help things.


Cheers Charlie. Cant wait to get it finished now like yourself, but I'm a little further from the finish line than you! lol



I thought this had been scrapped ;)

Cheeky! lol

[The Simps]

So been away all weekend but got in a little time friday. So where I left off need to make a fillet for in here....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-117.jpg


So did that and welded it up...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0021.jpg


Then smoothed that off all tidy...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0023.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/DSCF0024.jpg


Then my gas ran out. Changed the bottle over to a new one which was one of the higher pressure 110ltr mini bottles but nothing coming through??? Had to leave it but will investigate during the week so I can crack on!

[scott.parker]

Nice to see an update, interesting rear space frame, will keep my eye on the progress!

[gazz]

Good project there bud. :thumb:
As regards to gas what is it your using?
Also would it not be more cost effective to buy a refillable bottle?
Those mini one's only last 30 mins i found.

[The Simps]

Nice to see an update, interesting rear space frame, will keep my eye on the progress!

Cheers Scott :thumb:



Good project there bud. :thumb:
As regards to gas what is it your using?
Also would it not be more cost effective to buy a refillable bottle?
Those mini one's only last 30 mins i found.

Thanks gazz. I'm using co2/argon mix from machine mart. I have considered a refillable bottle but believe it or not I wont use the welder enough to justify it. I only use it on this car and as we all now that doesnt happen very often! lol Other than these fiddly little bits I'm doing the rest is mostly just tacking tubing together as a friend will be doing the finishing off.

[gazz]

Thanks gazz. I'm using co2/argon mix from machine mart. I have considered a refillable bottle but believe it or not I wont use the welder enough to justify it. I only use it on this car and as we all now that doesnt happen very often! lol Other than these fiddly little bits I'm doing the rest is mostly just tacking tubing together as a friend will be doing the finishing off.

Thats fair enough,
Good luck with build, End result should be stunning :thumb:

[The Simps]

I hope so. long way til the end tho!

[MK999]

I hope so. long way til the end tho!

Is with you around lol Trying to get those measurements btw but obviously people are pretty busy atm, or taking a few days off lol

[The Simps]

or taking a few days off lol

Cant blame em! :thumb:

[The Simps]

For my own reference:-

Clutches
C20XE - 225/228 - 24
C20LET - 228 - 14 (230 Cover)
924 2.0 - 215 - 24
924 2.5 - 225 - 23
944 2.5 - 225 - 23
944 2.5T - 240 - 23
944 2.7 - 225 - 23
944 3.0 - 225 - 23

[The Simps]

Looks like if I ever change to a later, tougher box I shouldbe able to use the porsche clutch plate with a turbo cover plate.

[The Simps]

Anyone care to have a stab at whats wrong/what I'm doing wrong with my welder??

It was all going swimmingly when the weld started getting lots of small perferations in. Gas ran out I thought as is normally the case! Switched to a new bottle I got but its still the same?? makes no difference to the weld at all no matter what setting I have on the regulator. It also seems to leave a lot of brown sooty deposit when it welds. I took off the shroud and cleaned it all off/out etc but no difference. Tried another bottle but no difference. Any ideas?? Only difference is I'm using a 110ltr mini bottle rather than the lower pressure ones of the same size. Its co2/argon mix which Ive always been using.

[MK999]

Hear the gas coming out the nozzle? Put it next to your ear lol

It's probably just unclean crappy nova metal tbh

[The Simps]

This is on fresh metal too.

I didnt hear the gas first come out when I turned the reg for the 1st time as it happened. Also didnt do it on any of the older bottles. I wonder if the reg is damaged or something. The pin does move but maybe not enough??

[MK999]

Something I got told to try when I was suffering low flow rates, was to just put something against the pin on the bottle, and tap it, as they sometimes stick, and also make sure the reg is screwed all the way down. It's possible the regulator is damaged though, they are only cheap things for hobby bottles usually, £10-13 for a brass casting with all the intricate parts to seal against 110+ bar... something has to give somewhere

[The Simps]

About £16 for a new one from Machine Mart. Worth a go I think.

[MK999]

You can get a fairly decent size proper bottle on a non rental thing for about £55 (including regulator!) +£50 deposit? That might work out best for you, it will weld nicer too tbh. Want me to drop you a link?

[The Simps]

So on to todays progress. With the drivers side done I went onto the passenger side...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-118.jpg


Part way through... as you can see I blew through towards the bottom right. Because its nearly upside down its outside my skill set to puddle it so will wait till cars on the spit and repair that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/26-04-112.jpg


And all done...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/26-04-113.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/26-04-114.jpg


Which meant I could tack this in...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/26-04-11.jpg


Onto the rear plates next.

[MK999]

Looks like I need to get my **** in gear and get you some more tubes to tack up :d

[The Simps]

Got plenty more to go yet bud, no rush!

[MK999]

Got plenty more to go yet bud, no rush!

Well, don't wanna give you the chance to pause, last time we did that it was a year before you got the cage... lol

[The Simps]

While I'm waiting for Mark to sort me out some stuff thought I'd get me some rimmage for the 200...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/IMG_0859.jpg


18" Rota Drifts, 8.5" front, 9.5" rears for now. Will eventually get some 10s for the back and put 9.5s on front but these came up so cheap I couldnt say no. Just need some spacers and coilovers for it next. Picked up some 320mm brembos for the front too, just waiting on delivery and in the process of sorting 300mm brembo rears

:)

[blue_peg_16v]

My shock has disappeared for a minute there I thought you had done something to the nova lol

[John]

My shock has disappeared for a minute there I thought you had done something to the nova lol

bah-ha-ha lol lol

[The Simps]

I would if I had the stuff off mark but he's a busy boy with exams right now.

[MK999]

He's still trying to track down a copy of all the files after his hard drive went kaput :/

[Benn]

Ben likes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/IMG_0859.jpg

[The Simps]

Mark - How do you think your exam went today?

Benn - just needs slamming now!!

[MK999]

I'm sure I never mentioned I had an exam, stalking me? lol Fairly well, guessed one question from theory without revising it or knowing any of the formulas but got reasonable answers, if that comes off I should be on for a 2:1/1st in that, one Wednesday I nailed and be surprised if I don't have a first tbh!

[The Simps]

You see! All that time spent studying between jerking off has paid off in the end :)

[scott.parker]

In my sad way i prefer the Vectra! lol

[mowgli]

In my sad way i prefer the Vectra! lol

i agree.. a lot of the jap stuff isn't good looking...

[The Simps]

How dare you!!! Lol

[MK999]

I like the S14 but it keeps costing money that could be going into my big interview seller (if I ever find the files) lol

[The Simps]

The wheels shouldnt end up costing me anything if all turns out how it should.

[MK999]

The wheels shouldnt end up costing me anything if all turns out how it should.

Neither should mine but they now owe me £240 considering I cant sell the old ones lol

[Benn]

Benn - just needs slamming now!!

Yes, yes it does.

[L14MNP]

i agree.. a lot of the jap stuff isn't good looking...

A lot isn't, but the S14a is a cracker IMO.
Both looking great Simps. :)

[The Simps]

Just a little proof the project is still alive - we now have door bars!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/11-07-11.jpg


Was up the shed today rolling and sealing the rear arches on the vectra and had a little down time while the sealer was drying so had a crack at the door bars. I fecked the 1st attempt up by getting the scollop too wide but no biggy, its a 48" piece so pretty confident can get re-used. Once you get an idea for it the ends arent actually too hard to do.

There has been a change of plans with the car that shall hopefully see it finished quicker mainly because it will be half if not a third of the original cost.

[Rick Draper]

:d

[The Simps]

And two more bars put in place tonight!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/12-07-11.jpg


The piece I pi$$ed up yesterday cut in half perfectly to make the above so no tubing wasted! yay! Not sure now whether to make it into an X or leave as is. Not exactly easy to get into for a fat lad now.

[MK999]

crosses or just the single diagonal as a token effort, that bar floating around in the middle of nowhere is doing pish all for anything.

You forget to mention it will be at least 1/6th as awesome too :P And I've gotta change my dissertation subject :p

[The Simps]

crosses or just the single diagonal as a token effort, that bar floating around in the middle of nowhere is doing pish all for anything.


Can you translate that please? Are you saying what I've done isn't doing anything it needs to be a full cross?

[scott.parker]

you still messing with this, by the time its made you will have forgot how to put it back together again! lol

[MK999]

Can you translate that please? Are you saying what I've done isn't doing anything it needs to be a full cross?

Image works better than text!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/MK999/Doorcrosses.jpg

[The Simps]

Needs to be full cross then! Diagram makes sense. Its hard getting in & out as it is now but probably cos its all lose. Once welded will prob be easier.

[The Simps]

you still messing with this, by the time its made you will have forgot how to put it back together again! lol

Was waiting for the next piece of the puzzle to get priced up but now directions have changed. It will now be turbo powered and a much simpler design, albeit not as good but will be a massive improvement over normal nova suspension.

I'm looking like being made redundant on friday and on garden leave for 3-6mths so will have plenty of free time! Lol

[The Simps]

Was made redundant yesterday so hopefully some more free time to play :)

[MK999]

Gardening leave ftmfw, is that on basic pay or have you got some commission based stuff lined up as well? Good luck finding a new job though dude, staying in finance stuff? I'll have to come up one sunday or something and give you a hand with it :) Considering you're a big gay mincer and all :p

[The Simps]

I'm sort of on garden leave. I am required to see clients as and when required but not to seek out appointments. That period ends mid-october then I have essentially a 10 week notice period to serve but the company are looking to pay us the notice up front so essentially my last day is 29th October and this is the day I can start a new job in the industry if I so wish.

I plan to set up as an IFA but that will most likely not be until the new year and I have to make a decision whether to use this opportunity to go do some travelling or not. I also plan to use the time to do some hardcore studying and get some qualifications under my belt in a bid to move towards Chartered status.

Money wise I'm going to be on my average wage for the last 12months based upon all elements of my pay which is an excellent deal to be honest. So its pretty much earnings as usual. I've got 8 years service with them too (I miss out on 9 years by 20 days Grrrrr!!!!) and that package is also excellent but that money needs to be put to one side for the new business :(

[Alex J]

is this finished yet??

[The Simps]

yep.

[MK999]

yep.

In a 2 foot square already?

[The Simps]

Just to update, things are still moving with this an proof will be up soon I promise!

[Andy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QzZ15-L38

[The Simps]

lol

[Benn]

Just to update, things are still moving with this an proof will be up soon I promise!

Like the ricecripey (sp) square things, the above is a lie.

[MK999]

Finished mincing around in America in your convertible now? :gay:

[The Simps]

Rear subframe I'm using now...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/IMG_1071.jpg


Set of adjustable arms for said subframe and a pair for the fronts...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/IMG_1072.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

Parts laying on the floor isn't progress!

[The Simps]

Took a lot of sweat stripping that subframe off and down to bare frame! lol

[L14MNP]

S-exy!

[The Simps]

S-exy!

lol like what you did there!

[MK999]

Parts laying on the floor isn't progress!

But for this mincer we'll take it.

[Benn]

Nice bits.

[The Simps]

Welded a few more climbing bars in today and made a dolly to push it all around - but forget to take my phone with me! lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Updates douch?

[MK999]

He's got a donor but he's still a tart and currently mincing in the US I believe.

[The Simps]

He's got a donor but he's still a tart and currently mincing in the US I believe.

Are you stalking me again?? lol

I've almost finished some upgrades my my 200sx then it can come out the shop and on the road then there's room to bring the nova back into play. And yes, I now have a donor.

[MK999]

Only a little bit. When are we pulling this sx apart then lol

[The Simps]

I'll be in touch don't worry.

[Benn]

I wanna see this to believe it.

[Count Vaux Alot]

It's all talk.

[Southie]

By the time this is roadworthy all the oil in the world will have dried out lol

[The Simps]

The donor...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/4533ebce.jpg

[MK999]

Looks shiny, had you just washed it as well? WTF are you washing a donor for lol

When can I cut it up? lol

[The Simps]

Still debating whether to sell it or not, thats why it got washed. Its low mileage and in very good condition, seems a shame to break it. But on the other hand the profit wouldn't be that great and yes, I may be able to get a more battered/rotten car with more mods but what condition is that engine & running gear going to be in.

I'm thinking to strip this one down for the bits I need and just store away the shell incase I smack up my other one lol

[MK999]

I thought we were using the floor pan, don't make me grind it out while you're not looking.

[Benn]

So you'll be using a sx for all the bits? Thought you where using mx5?

[burgo]

So you'll be using a sx for all the bits? Thought you where using mx5?

no thats lee

[The Simps]

Just using front & rear subframes and running gear. Not gonna make the floorpan fit the nova. Going to have the subframes bolt up to the cage assembly then floorpan around it. Thats the plan anyway. Will need your help Mark to work out roll centres etc.

[The Simps]

So you'll be using a sx for all the bits? Thought you where using mx5?

Originally the design was based around mx5 rear uprights but never anything else.

[autoworksnovasport]

mx5 running gear looks to be a good base ive just bought a complete set of front and rear subframes ready for a future project

[burgo]

mx5 running gear looks to be a good base ive just bought a complete set of front and rear subframes ready for a future project

ls400 is a good fit as well ;)

[autoworksnovasport]

dont cut that up atleast use an s13 thats already rotten

[Benn]

Just using front & rear subframes and running gear. Not gonna make the floorpan fit the nova. Going to have the subframes bolt up to the cage assembly then floorpan around it. Thats the plan anyway. Will need your help Mark to work out roll centres etc.

Ah, that would be good.

[autoworksnovasport]

ls400 is a good fit as well ;)

as in lexus?

[blue_peg_16v]

Simps you disappoint thought there was real progress lol

[mowgli]

so what's gonna happen to the porsche running gear?

[The Simps]

mx5 running gear looks to be a good base ive just bought a complete set of front and rear subframes ready for a future project

MX5 gear is great but ultimately I'm thinking of long term power upgrades etc. Originally I was obsessed with keeping 4x100 PCD to run the 17" mistrals I had but now I've woke up! The great thing with using the nissan setup is there is a huge wealth of parts out there for not a lot of money because they're common. For example, a completely rose jointed, fully adjustable rear end can be had for £200. Also, having another 200sx as a toy, when I upgrade power on that the old bits can go on the track car or vice versa.



dont cut that up atleast use an s13 thats already rotten

I won't be cutting it up. I'll most likely, once I've robbed all the running gear, completely shot blast the underside and seal it then store the shell.



Simps you disappoint thought there was real progress lol

You should know better than that by now! lol



so what's gonna happen to the porsche running gear?

I've already weighed in the transaxle & torque tube when my old vectra went bye bye. The XE I was gonna use will stay on the shelf. The SBD XE to type 9 bell housing adapter I bought I will ebay when I get round to it! The gbox on tube owe me nothing so I'm not at a loss.

[The Simps]

Sorry no actual nova update but my 200sx is now out of the workshop and bar a mapping session is done for what I wanted to do with it this year. Its certainly had all the money I'll willing to put into it for now! The pics...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/dabb9e61.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/04bdb03b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/8e00bd0b.jpg


The donor vehicle is on the right and waiting to get stripped of its running gear...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/200s.jpg


I've just got to tidy out the workshop, alter a few things then the nova will get put on the jig. This WILL be the spring/summer of progress - I promise.

[burgo]

Sorry no actual nova update


you suck!!

[The Simps]

:D

As a moderator burg can you change the thread title to " Nova Turbo Spaceframed RWD Trackcar"

Thanks.

[burgo]

:D

As a moderator burg can you change the thread title to " Nova Turbo Spaceframed RWD Trackcar"

Thanks.


when i see signs of this being the case certainly ;) :p

[The Simps]

fpmsl

[Count Vaux Alot]

you suck!!

Normally I would agree with you but I have a feeling that he does alot of thinking and talking about sucking but doesn't actually do any sucking a bit like working on the nova.

[Benn]

Love the rims, look great.

So the nova really is still in the design stage then... But with parts to do the build. How much longer is a 200 than the nova?

[The Simps]

So the nova really is still in the design stage then... But with parts to do the build. How much longer is a 200 than the nova?

Got the design all worked out in my head and the route of attack. Should have all the parts to have all the running gear into the shell minus buying some metal.

Wheelbase is 2535 mm against the novas 2350 mm. Track is obviously slightly wider which I will be keeping.

[Benn]

Its sorter? Im surpriced at that. No major cutting up on the running gear then.

[The Simps]

Its sorter? Im surpriced at that. No major cutting up on the running gear then.

No, no, no. 200 is longer by nearly 20cm which I can easily lose in the prop.

[Benn]

Oops didnt read that right. Not to much to lose really.
Time to get cracking i think.

[burgo]

length is always the easy bit its the track that is the tricky bit

[The Simps]

length is always the easy bit its the track that is the tricky bit

Yep but I can run wider arches, DTM style! lol

[autoworksnovasport]

any sketches for a teaser??

[burgo]

Yep but I can run wider arches, DTM style! lol

na thats to easy

[The Simps]

any sketches for a teaser??

Sorry, I can't draw for sh!t! lol



na thats to easy

Never happy are you burgs...

[MK999]

What spaceframe? I thought you were botching an S14 chassis onto the nova body and calling it a day :p

[mowgli]

No, no, no. 200 is longer by nearly 20cm which I can easily lose in the prop.

when doing the wide arches, why not simply keep the original jap wheelbase & make the new arches further back, which will help in the proportions of the nova loon, imho

[Connor]

This project is very interesting! Love those s14a's, think of getting one myself. Sure will be a beast once its done!

[Rickyb]

I know its a daft question but any updates on this?

[Count Vaux Alot]

I know its a daft question but any updates on this?


lol

[The Simps]

I can do an update!

The donor is being taken for MOT next week and should go straight through. It's far too good a shell to break so its going. As for the project I just simply have not had the time. My business is expanding and every time I think I have a free day I lose it. I've not given up tho. It may just be a while. It's made harder that the workshop is 30mins drive away but I'm hoping to move next year and maybe have it on site.

[MK999]

What! You told me I could grinderise it. :(

Those slash marks in your fancy M3 that look like grinder holes, that isn't going to be me ;)

Might have more time if you stopped jetting off to America on fancy holidays :p

[The Simps]

What! You told me I could grinderise it. :(

Those slash marks in your fancy M3 that look like grinder holes, that isn't going to be me ;)

Might have more time if you stopped jetting off to America on fancy holidays :p


The 200 was never gonna be grinderised, well I was hoping to avoid that. If I find another thats not so clean then maybe!

My gf is in America so naturally I'm gonna wanna go!

[Count Vaux Alot]

I always thought you liked boys?

[The Simps]

You always wished I liked boys ;)

[Benn]

I have faith one day you'll finish it....















Or sell it and suck tramp cock.

[Southie]

Very disappointed that there's no actual update... Tbh though I expect this now and one day I'll have a heart attack [not an art attack Mowgli] when this is finished lol

[MK999]

I always thought you liked boys?

Have you never heard of a cover up? lol

And non-grinderising was only broken to me recently, I was under this impression for years... can't take away a mans grinderising like that lol

[Spudly]

I have faith one day you'll finish it....





Dont be silly, there is more chance that Rob will get his loon running again........


Oh wait lol

[burgo]

Have you never heard of a cover up? lol

And non-grinderising was only broken to me recently, I was under this impression for years... can't take away a mans grinderising like that lol
You can come do mine if you want

[MK999]

Happy to :) Chopping up the blue one for RWD gear? I'll be free in June if that's any good to you... half expect you to have some sort of mega machine finished before then if you're already planning though, you don't tend to hang around lol

[burgo]

With 3 kids and about 5 other cars to do it wont be finished anytime soon so some mincing in june would be good

[The Simps]

Just remember I didnt bump this thread! lol

[The Simps]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/image-1.jpg


More to follow.....

[shaun larnder]

About bloody time.... Will it make Billing this year :)

[maddogdaz666]

**** yes! :)

[L14MNP]

A couple of Neesawn SR20 motors will pull a premium one week before Race Wars. :)

[chrisd1986]

Dont be silly, there is more chance that Rob will get his loon running again........


Oh wait lol

Hes still made more progress than greame lol

[MK999]

omg that cage is rusting through! :p

[bazzap8389]

A couple of Neesawn SR20 motors will pull a premium one week before Race Wars. :)

lol that always pops into my head when I see an sr20 lol

I'm liking this though mate looks a cracking project :)

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hhhmmm.

[Plug]

Thought this had been cut up and scrapped lol

Sr20, defo a differant engine choice mind, when's the rb coming lol

[Benn]

Is that sat on a pallet or wheeled trolley? Lol

[The Simps]

Is that sat on a pallet or wheeled trolley? Lol

Just a quick trolley i made up years ago from an old pop up wardrobe and castors.

[Benn]

Ah. Needs cracking on with.

[blue_peg_16v]

Feck get it done

[The Simps]

So after a very long wait I am in my new unit complete with a level floor - yay! The engine and front subframe as you have seen has been removed from the donor, rear subframe next. I have spent this weekend offering the engine and box up to shell and seeing if a) its feasable and where it needs to sit and b) how I'm going to go about it!

a) Feasable? - It sure is! Fits in the bay a treat and gearstick should be in a great location to have the seat sit far back. I have plenty of room up front for a rad and decent cooler, probably without butchering the bumper! Depending on ground clearance of the subframe and shell the engine fits height wise to close the standard bonnet. Just depends how low I want to get it all whether i decide to run a scoop or not for clearance.

b) Method - Lots of head-scratching and staring this weekend but there is a plan of attack! I need to make up my chassis rails to hold the subframe mounts either side of the engine and it will hold the brackets that support the front tie rod mounts. Once bolted to the frame I can use these mounts to level the engine up and set on a jig of sorts. Next job is to get some tyres on the wheels I have - going 215/45R17 fronts and 235/40R17 rears, all 888s and with same diameter. I can then set the geometry how I want it. Then a case of placing the shell at the desired ride height!

So just a few pics to give you an idea...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-9.jpg


Hopefully a month of updates to come as I plan on staying in the country! lol

[MK999]

Looking at the space you have for the rad etc we need to talk vital cooling aero mods :)

[Benn]

Now im impressed!

[The Simps]

Now im impressed!

Cheers bud

[MK999]

Don't praise him too much, he'll give up for another 2 years :p

[The Simps]

:wtf:

[istf]

OMG, looks sooooo sick! I love it and also got popcorn! :D

[The Simps]

Got the rear end of the 200sx donor off tonight and removed front subframe from the engine. Put the rear subframe to where it "roughly" needs to sit and with the wheels I'm running it doesn't actually poke out too bad to be honest. Waiting for an order of box section to arrive now then can crack on getting it all lined up and subframes built into the cage/chassis. :thumb:

A few pics to keep you happy....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/null-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/null-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/null-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/null.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/null-4.jpg

[L14MNP]

Loving this, mate. Proper drivetrain. :)

Doing those subframe bushes whilst it's so accessible? lol

[The Simps]

Doing those subframe bushes whilst it's so accessible? lol

Be rude not to! Lol

[Benn]

Subframe looks like a proper bit of kit, guessing you build the frame around it.. Like the wheel choice, you'll be having a wider arch on there to cover then..lol

Great work.

[Iain]

Looking forward to seeing it attached to the car!

[corsakid]

Awesome

[The Simps]

Subframe looks like a proper bit of kit, guessing you build the frame around it.. Like the wheel choice, you'll be having a wider arch on there to cover then..lol

Great work.

Its the reason the 200 stuff made such good sense mate. You can buy rose-jointed adjustable kits for all those suspension arms for very little money for what they are and its a good handling setup. As you've said you build the frame around it. The subframe has 4 pickup points as you can make out in the pics, the frontwards mounts I plan to build into the bottom of the cage then the rears from the top and build from there. Hopefully will all make sense when I can start cracking on....



Looking forward to seeing it attached to the car!

Me too mate! Been a long time getting to this point.



Awesome

I wouldn't say it was awesome yet but hopefully will be!

[Johnny A]

Glad to see this is moving along Simps

[The Simps]

Glad to see this is moving along Simps

Cheers mate, hope I can keep going! Where's yours at now?

[Johnny A]

I finished the chassis just as I was kicked out of my mates unit (not my fault) and it was transferred to my new unit, since then I haven't worked on it. However work on my Carlton's suspension bringing it up to touring car spec has yielded a greater understanding of geometry and add that to the poor weight distribution I decided to totally rethink my method of converting it.

I have the plan and bought the parts I need but have not done anything with it yet, the idea isn't a million miles from your setup though. PM if you want the details.

[burgo]

Piece of piss when you use a complete subframe ent it. Ive got a supra turbo set up

[The Simps]

Piece of piss when you use a complete subframe ent it. Ive got a supra turbo set up

Exactly. Toughest challenge is getting it all level and squared up.

[burgo]

Be interested to know how you planning on doing that? Im trying to find someone to make me a jig from some giders

[BRoadGhost]

Doesn't poke out too far :cry:

Looks like miles to me! lol

[The Simps]

Seats have arrived today, premature I know but they will help with mocking up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/null-5.jpg


:d

[Iain]

Carbon kevlar versions you posh bugger! I needed the XL version of those to physically fit in them lol

[The Simps]

Carbon kevlar versions you posh bugger! I needed the XL version of those to physically fit in them lol

They were a too good a price to refuse! lol

I too could really do with XL versions but need as much room in the car as I can get! I fit in these but I think the addition of harnesses might be just a little too much! ha

[Benn]

I loving what you're doing.

[The Simps]

So its about time for an update!

Been spending a lot of time recently getting the car all levelled out. The 2 bars at the feet of the cage will be my reference point so these were levelled into the car and then using some axle stands welded where I needed them and also to the bar, the car then levelled on the slightly sloping floor. The bottom of those bars is the floor level too.

I collected two 3 metre lengths of 2"x3" box which is the next phase yesterday which were kindly drilled by Shaun Larnder as per template (if you could call it that eh Shaun? lol) for the front subframe and tie bar brackets. Laying them on top of my horizontal bars I can check my levelling :D

Front and back side to side...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-16.jpg


and front to back each side along the box...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-14.jpg


I'm pretty chuffed with that.

So with the subframe now bolted up I needed to get some kind of reference point of the turrets in relation to the subframe. So off to the donor to make a jig....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-17.jpg


And all into place...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-19.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-20.jpg


Next up was to square off the box legs so they are even front to back. We did this then tacked some bar in to keep it true. Next was to position the box into the middle of the car, taking lots of measurements. Once happy I used some inch box to make some level uprights tacked to my horizontal bars so that when I now raise the box it will keep it pretty much straight left to right still :) Thats now all done....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-22.jpg


Next job is to put engine back in then adjust the position front to back to where I want it then I can focus on levelling them at the correct height. Again I will use some old axle stands welded up.

Thanks for looking.

[mowgli]

mr simps, have you ever used a water level??? its basically a roll of clear hose filled with neat screenwash & is possibly the most accurate spirit level you'll ever use, as it will work perfectly from one end of the car to the other without any calibration needed.. it might be worth knocking one up to check, as your spirit level has more than an smidgeon of inaccuracy.

[The Simps]

mr simps, have you ever used a water level??? its basically a roll of clear hose filled with neat screenwash & is possibly the most accurate spirit level you'll ever use, as it will work perfectly from one end of the car to the other without any calibration needed.. it might be worth knocking one up to check, as your spirit level has more than an smidgeon of inaccuracy.


I have not but just googled it! Looks simple enough. I have some clear tube somewhere, will give it a go! Cheers.

[jonn]

good work! i will be keeping an eye on this

[Benn]

Looking fantastic as i said the other Si,
What are you gonna do where the stock tops sit higher than the wings?

[Kev Turbo]

Lol at the last picture - Person standing right hand side of the shot!

[Andy]

Lol

[The Simps]

good work! i will be keeping an eye on this

Thanks! Hopefully progress will keep rolling now til xmas!



Looking fantastic as i said the other Si,
What are you gonna do where the stock tops sit higher than the wings?

I will be running some fancy hubs that basically raise the spindle up by 50mm. This has the effect of lowering the car 50mm but retain the exact same suspension geometry, so no bump steer, added neg camber etc. So with coilovers too I can drop the turrets 50mm and lower the remaining required 25-50mm on the coilovers. Plus the engine needs to come down a bit yet anyway and therefore the subframe & turrets. Does that make sense?



Lol at the last picture - Person standing right hand side of the shot!

Yeah I know! My cheeky brothers ball bag!

[Benn]

Yes it does, i've seen some things like what, wish i could use something like that.

Will the two frame rails not weigh a ton?

[The Simps]

Yes it does, i've seen some things like what, wish i could use something like that.

Will the two frame rails not weigh a ton?


Its why I decided to stick with using all the 200sx parts, there's so much development been done and readiness of cheap(ish) parts available.

The rails aren't that heavy really but they're stopping a the bulkhead anyway and from there will be smaller tube work. I've left them long so I can use them as a reference point for measurements.

[The Simps]

Getting there....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/null_zps0fa3ef2f.jpg

[corsakid]

Very very impressive I'm watching to get some tips etc for when I 4x4 my nova which will happen once I get the Audi engine ruining and driving, thumbs up

[The Simps]

Very very impressive I'm watching to get some tips etc for when I 4x4 my nova which will happen once I get the Audi engine ruining and driving, thumbs up


I warn you, its VERY frustrating. Constantly having to re-think and change plans slightly. The measuring, tweeking, measureing gets old quick too! Lol

i think I have the height where it needs to be now leaving me with good geometry. Just want to move it back a few inches now but need to find out how much I can adjust the tie bars to re-centre the wheels.

[corsakid]

Mine will be a lot less work with only the rear end and maybe slight tunnel mods as I plan to keep the engine transverse, it's mightily impressive though what you've done so far can't wait to see it progress

[The Simps]

Thank you

[Benn]

Wow loving what you've done so far. And ah at the rails, sounds like a good plan, everything in the bar can be done from the spaceframe then...

[The Simps]

Wow loving what you've done so far. And ah at the rails, sounds like a good plan, everything in the bar can be done from the spaceframe then...

Not 100% sure what you're asking mate? The front suspension is mounted to the subframe except tie bar where it mounts into a bracket which is attached to the chassis or in my case the box. The subframe also bolts to the box. The engine mounts to the subframe NOT the box. So in moving the engine back the subframe moves back thus moving the wheels back. Maybe a few more pics will help...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-23.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-24.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/SR20DET%20Nova/file-27.jpg

[blue_peg_16v]

Jesus some progress what the hell

seriously impressive though mate