My XE nova on throttle bodies (Project 275+bhp)

[16xe_chris]

Nice to meet you both :thumb:

Can't wait to see this project completed took me ages to read through all these pages lol

[Iain]

Iain, was nice to meet you and Al and also Chris, starting to put faces to names which is good :thumb:

Nice to meet you too. Also impressed with the doors, hefty weight saving there!

[Prey]

At the risk of this thread turning into a big lovefest it was nice to meet you chaps as well. Glad you're happy with the dash, it will definitely stand out with the blue highlights but won't be too bright when driving with it being a matt flock. Get some more pics when it's in!

[Gareth_C]

Cheers guys once I have finished the hydraulic clutch setup (hopefully by the weekend) then I'm gonna start on The interior area so watch this space. All these new bits are inspiring me on to finish in quick time lol

[Southie]

Soooo much PNG love in here lol

[Gareth_C]

In mist of sounding a pregnant fish, it makes a refreshing from the early posts lol

[Gareth_C]

A little update took advice from steve and dewis (from vauxsport) and beefed up the spacer.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04041.jpg
Its made from 316 grade 2mm stainless steel hopefully that should be a more fit for purpose.
cheers Gareth

[Old man Jimbo]

A little update took advice from steve and dewis (from vauxsport) and beefed up the spacer.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04041.jpg
Its made from 316 grade 2mm stainless steel hopefully that should be a more fit for purpose.
cheers Gareth

Spacer for what?

[Gareth_C]

It's for the hydraulic bearing to sit on as the holes don't line up.

[Benn]

It's for the hydraulic bearing to sit on as the holes don't line up.

Oh yea... And what a hydraulic bearing ?

[Old man Jimbo]

You running a fancy clutch?

[ocdstigy]

Truly awesome!!!

[Gareth_C]

You running a fancy clutch?

Yeah just a little bit lol

[Gareth_C]

Truly awesome!!!

Cheers mate

[Jedro]

You running a fancy clutch?

hes had it covered in pixie dust for extra bhp the tart :p

[Gareth_C]

hes had it covered in pixie dust for extra bhp the tart :p

Your just Jelious cause I have brown hair and your hair is ginger. You still upset washing your car makes it lighter. :p

[Jedro]

hahahaha im not f**king ginger lol

[Gareth_C]

hahahaha im not f**king ginger lol
lol you love the attention :p

[Jedro]

i get off on the fact people wait outside my house x x

[Gareth_C]

i get off on the fact people wait outside my house x x

Lol makes a change from stalking me lol.

[NOV4_SPORT]

Epic

really like the dash and the doors !

[Gareth_C]

Lol makes a change from stalking me lol.


Epic

really like the dash and the doors !
Cheers mate hopefully it will all come together nicely in the next few weeks

[Gareth_C]

Hi all a small update finally managed the final puzzle piece to the Ap bearing.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04043.jpg
Finally found a universal rotary seal to fit the odd sized hole, but still fit the input shaft diamter. Must give a big thanks to the fiiters at work at "made" this fit for me without any machining needed. :thumb:
Just need the unions to arrive and I pipe and refit the box hopefully for the last time.
Cheers Gareth

[Jedro]

good lad :)
when you taking me for a spin then

[16xe_chris]

You have a pm Gareth :thumb:

[Gareth_C]

good lad :)
when you taking me for a spin then
Lol im sure there's a roundabout in the play park up the road, I could push you on that

[Jedro]

you'd like that wouldn't you lol lol lol

[Jedro]

do you want a cuddle Gareth? il be round after iv dropped this thing off x x

[Gareth_C]

Well it's update time again. Wwmnw and jedro popped round to join in the fun today. Now that the seal has been pressed in the rear of the bearing we got it fitted to the gearbox. We sealed the bearing to the spacer plate then the plate to the box just to make it oil tight. I had already drilled the hole for the bleed valve, so we shortened the bleed pipe to suit the fitment. Unfortunatly the feed line was offset from the original hole that suites the clutch fork so it was extended then the hole had a gromet glued to it. And I used the clip on the top of the box to hold the feed line. ( I have done it it two halfs so the box could be disconnected if needed). We also changed the arp flywheel bolts for new items the offered the box up. We checked the clearances and everything seems to be clear and the clutch rotates without any catching. We fixed the gearbox on and sat it on the mounts.
Also Andrew changed my fuel rail I bought a new one that has an6 fittings to finish the fuel lines.

Hopefully I can get a few more things moved on like fitting the SBD under drive alternator and the wiring loom among other things.

I took a couple of pic will upload later.
Cheers Gareth

[Jedro]

i dont believe you until i see the pics lol

also held one of the doors with my little finger today
O... M... G!!

[16xe_chris]

i dont believe you until i see the pics lol

also held one of the doors with my little finger today
O... M... G!!


:thumb: the doors should save Gareth worrying about that running machine lol

[Gareth_C]

Lol Jed for a young apprentice you must have amnesia lol

Lol cheers chris

[Gareth_C]

Pics as promised from the previous page
Hydraulic bearing fitted with pipes connected.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04045.jpg
Pipes coming out of the box, utilising the old clutch cable fork as the mount and the bleed valve which sits just under the water pipes for protection.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04046.jpg
Finished product, engine back on its mounts
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04050.jpg

Cheers Gareth

[Gareth_C]

Well i got a few more bits done this afternoon I think im gonna take some time off work to finish this on my deadline lol.
I started by fitting the three reservoirs for the pedal box.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04073.jpg
Where they sit
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04072.jpg
I bought a SBD little alt kit from a guy on another fourm aswell
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04069.jpg
Fitted it may take som jiggling
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04071.jpg
Finally i finished the breather for the fuel tank. I hid a filter behind the bumper
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04074.jpg
Then i piped it up to the tank with a non return valve
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04075.jpg
I know its not a huge update lol but ill get there soon lol.
Cheers Gareth

[wwmnw]

:thumb: the doors should save Gareth worrying about that running machine lol

It'll take more than some fiberglass doors for that lol

Good progress so far and I'm ****ing excited for a passenger ride when its all done and road legal, i think im more excited than Gareth!

[wwmnw]

That reminds me Chris, we weighed the doors (took a pic as well) a gnats nut over 4kg they are!

[Andy]

Awesome,really coming together now mate!

[Gareth_C]

Cheers andy. Snowdon take some time off and we will go on a road trip lol

[wwmnw]

Where to this time?

[Gareth_C]

I don't know lol I'll have to set the brakes and everything up lol

[Danny s-p]

this may seam silly but how you going to fill the 3 pots if your ever out and the level drops. as when your setting the brakes up with heavy braking it going to drop a little. and it happened to you at york didn't it when i was ridding down with you

[Gareth_C]

A funnel through the scuttle grid

[Danny s-p]

ok don't spill it brake fluid strips paint

[Gareth_C]

ok don't spill it brake fluid strips paint

Lol mate I'm sure I won't, I think I have a stedy enough hand to eye co-ord to keep it right

[wwmnw]

ok don't spill it brake fluid strips paint
so does petrol as me and gareth found out lol

[Jedro]

lots of gay love in here, i wish i was a ginger homosexual Muslim...

i call shotgun at some point biatches

good work captain Gareth

[Mike]

ok don't spill it brake fluid strips paint

Used brake fluid does :thumb: New barely touch's it.

[Gareth_C]

Cheers guys hopefully I wont need to do much topping up of said fluids lol

[Jedro]

whats next on this beast gareth

[Gareth_C]

Come over sat and you will see mate lol

[Jedro]

at work again in the morning, will see what tasks the boss has for me after that lol, will text you if im coming babes

[Gareth_C]

Yeah I know the feeling mate

[calibra-keith]

Have you fitted your doors yet ?

[boffer8]

Please can you tell me a bit more info about the slave cylinder set up you have used as i have gone back over the past couple of pages and cant see much, seen the pics, but just wondering how you have mounted it and you talk about a different seal too? any chance of some pics showing the side of it and the mounting procedure or similar etc?
cheers
ben

[Gareth_C]

Have you fitted your doors yet ?

Not as yet keith I have a week off at the end of the month I think im gonna tackle them then, are they easier enough to do lol.

[Gareth_C]

Please can you tell me a bit more info about the slave cylinder set up you have used as i have gone back over the past couple of pages and cant see much, seen the pics, but just wondering how you have mounted it and you talk about a different seal too? any chance of some pics showing the side of it and the mounting procedure or similar etc?
cheers
ben

Hi ben it wasnt as hard as it looks and unfortunatly im not a picture person but i can tell you how its done, if thats any help any reason your wanting this setup

[calibra-keith]

Not as yet keith I have a week off at the end of the month I think im gonna tackle them then, are they easier enough to do lol.

you cant really go wrong, the hardest part (and its not that hard) is the hinge

[Jedro]

sorry i didnt get round the other day captain Gareth. what day you off from then?? il be back up the unit shortly like.

[Gareth_C]

you cant really go wrong, the hardest part (and its not that hard) is the hinge

lol im sure it will be a easy enough.

[boffer8]

Hi ben it wasnt as hard as it looks and unfortunatly im not a picture person but i can tell you how its done, if thats any help any reason your wanting this setup

Ok, can you tell me how its done then please? lol pm me if needs be ;) the reason, just that im looking to go to a hydraulic clutch and we use these slave cylinders at work so i will be able to get one cheapish through there for my application, id only looked at using the standard set up from a corsa before and id much rather use these as i know how good they are the jip they can handle without needing rebuilds.

[Gareth_C]

Yeah no bother mate I'm writing on the iPhone so I'll do a proper explanation from the laptop later. Are you on a small block gearbox? If so you might wanna check the turret pcd as AP do a 76mm and a 74mm fitment, also what style clutch are you running cause there are various width housings and stroke lengths from AP.

[Mincyballs]

Looks like progress mate! Doing a wicked job on it... bet you wish you had a quarter master twin plate now ;) Im glad i never got an ap after reading the sh*t youve had to do to make it work! Those alternators are a lovely bit of kit (2.2kg iirc) the one thats on my sh*t box has the small multi V pulley cause i had troubles with the single v turning its self over above 8k

Keep up the work... not long till Fast Show at pod! mines in bits for a couple of cheeky upgrades ;)

Did you ever get the rose joint setup? I asked but it never materialised!

[Gareth_C]

Whats the cheeky upgrades lol. Yeah I do bout the clutch but it's done now lol. Keep your eyes peeled in the next couple of weeks about the tie bar kit

[Jedro]

iv a sneaking suspicion you didn't get any piccys today captain G??

[Gareth_C]

iv a sneaking suspicion you didn't get any piccys today captain G??
I did mate inane only been packed up for about 30mins I'll sort it in a bit.

[Jedro]

good lad..

[Gareth_C]

Well we had a fun day doing a few odds and sods. Started by making some hinges out of steel for the doors they will be made from aluminium when I get some plate. (Ill do a proper step by step guide when the ali hinges are done :thumb:).
Hinges fixed to the car. (work in progress)
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04119.jpg
I then started doing my rear strut brace. its been an after thought but ill paint it once its done.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04114.jpg
Check out the new mounts for the harnesses.
I also started to triangulate the rear brace to cage hopefully finish the other side next week.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04115.jpg
I will try and do more pics for next weekend and a more definative update.
Cheers for looking :thumb:

[Gareth_C]

Well I started my week off with a bang lol. I had the monday morning CBA attitude, but I managed to get started this afternoon.
I got the second triangulation for the rollcage/rear strut brace done.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04136.jpg
My shoddy welding :(
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04138.jpg
As I was in a rather calm mood for once :roll: I decided to tackle my nemisis, the pedal box. I haven't been happy with how it sat it the footwell since I originally installed it, (So much for OBP quoting that its a direct replacement for the O.E gear). I got my noggin into gear and got stuck into it.
And came up with this.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04141.jpg
And it seemed to do the trick pedal box now sitting straight.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04139.jpg
I wasnt happy with the gap between the floor and the pedals so I had some 3mm aluminum bent to 1"x1", and finished like this.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04143.jpg
But with me being anal im not happy about the gap at the bottom of the ali.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04144.jpg
So I have ordered some 30mmx30mm ali angle to re do the cover then it will sit flush with the floor.
Hopefully I will have some more updates tomorrow, with everthing piped up and the wiring done ;)
Cheers for looking Gareth.

[Gareth_C]

Also forgot to add I got a nice ebay bargin last night bought some pro race 2 alloys in 15". One rim possibly u/s other 3 are good. Road trip on sunday lol.

[16xe_chris]

Coming along nicely now matey :thumb:

[Gareth_C]

Coming along nicely now matey :thumb:

Cheers chris I got your mail but didn't have the chance to reply. Will that be the bit people normally cut off

[16xe_chris]

Yep but I have had an idea for you, just need to see if it works this week lol

[Gareth_C]

Yep but I have had an idea for you, just need to see if it works this week lol

Lol whats this I wonder, you have me intrigued sir

[Benn]

Do the rear legs on the cage just stop on the arches? No plates or can they just not be seen?

Like looks good. Like the harness tabs.

[Gareth_C]

Do the rear legs on the cage just stop on the arches? No plates or can they just not be seen?

Like looks good. Like the harness tabs.

There welded on mate then fibreglassed over for the smooth look. Cheers about the harness tabs

[Benn]

Ah nice touch.

[Gareth_C]

Ah nice touch.

Cheers mate

[Mincyballs]

I do like the pedal box! I wanted to do the same just to tidy the bay up... You got any pics now the servo has gone? Just wanted to see out of interest!
Looks good though man!

[Gareth_C]

I do like the pedal box! I wanted to do the same just to tidy the bay up... You got any pics now the servo has gone? Just wanted to see out of interest!
Looks good though man!

lol First you copy my pistons now you wanna copy my brakes :p
Seriously though mate I'm on the iPhone I'll get a pic tomorrow mate. It's a nice bit of kit shame it's been such a **** on

[Mincyballs]

Don't even get me started on the copying lol that's a nice 7.25" clutch you got there ;)

Haha what can I say mate your my idol :D

I wanna go faster before I think about braking with a nice pedal box!! My list in order would be Slicks, Nos then maybe a pedal box haha

[Gareth_C]

Lol do I inspire you mate you best keep watching then cause it won't stop till it's in the 11's lol

[boffer8]

Yeah no bother mate I'm writing on the iPhone so I'll do a proper explanation from the laptop later. Are you on a small block gearbox? If so you might wanna check the turret pcd as AP do a 76mm and a 74mm fitment, also what style clutch are you running cause there are various width housings and stroke lengths from AP.

ok, well a decent explanation will help me along in doing mine i think, i am running a small block gearbox yes, you mean the turret as in the base mounting? i am running an AP competition post clutch and paddle unsprung clutch, i will have to measure the amount of movement and width i will need i think and consult the catalogue.

[Gareth_C]

I'll do the guide for you in the morning mate I'm not sure what pics I have but I'll write it so it makes sense

[boffer8]

Cheers pal that will be great :)

[Gareth_C]

Right all a small update.

I have managed to pretty much finish the pedal box now just waiting for the bits to do the throttle cables. Hopefully they wil be here on sat.
First I ran the new rear brake line through the car. I wasn't happy using copper line as it just didnt look right.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04150.jpg
How it comes into the car
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04149.jpg
Then I finished off all the hoses to the master cylinders.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04153.jpg
My new piece of ali angle turned up today aswell so i re made the piece to cover the front.
Just painted
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04157.jpg
I did get it fitted and into the car but I forgot a pic ill stick that on tomorrow lol.

Im hoping to finish off the engine bay tomorrow. I.E paint the chassis leg where I did the calibra mount conversion mount and Im going to paint the gearbox but Im unsure what colour to paint it. Im undicided between black, blue or silver. As the hoses are blue the block is black and the box was orignailly silver. anybody wanna suggest which colour to go lol.
Cheers Gareth

[Danny s-p]

black wont go grubby looking like silver and blue wood

[Jedro]

these eyes..

bom bom ba bom bom

are crying....

bom bom ba bom bom

THESSSE EYYYES...

bom bom ba bom bom

ARE BLIIIINNND

bom bom ba bom bom...

[16xe_chris]

I'm sure your workbench is trying to copy mine lol

[Gareth_C]

these eyes..

bom bom ba bom bom

are crying....

bom bom ba bom bom

THESSSE EYYYES...

bom bom ba bom bom

ARE BLIIIINNND

bom bom ba bom bom...

WTF lol

[Gareth_C]

I'm sure your workbench is trying to copy mine lol

Yeah chris a clean workbench ain't a used workbench lol

[Jedro]

WTF lol

I was singing for you captain G

[Gareth_C]

Managed to do a bit today.
Firstly the pic as promised of the pedal box fitted im hoping the stuff arrives tomorrow to finish the throttle side then im laughing.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04158.jpg
I spent the best part of the day fitting a corsa rubber mount to the driver side. Ended up with this
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04159.jpg
I then painted the chassis leg where i made the mod for running the calibra gearbox mount
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04161.jpg
But with it being cold i found myself waiting more than working lol.

List of jobs for tomorrow:
I have to run a brake line from the rear t-piece to the braided line in the car.
Modify and fit the wiring harness.
Throttle cables.
Refit the thermostat.
Put some water in
And maybe hear it fire up??????

Cheers Gareth

[Jedro]

everybody yeahhh
rock your body yeahhh
everybody yeahhh
rock your body rite
backstreets back ALRITE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6samPEMpM&ob=av2n

[Jedro]

the grand fire up tomorrow i heard mr sh!t phone ;)

[Gareth_C]

Yeah lol got as far as I can without testing the engine. But have decided to see how it runs then take it back to bits so my mAte can paint it. Watch this space for the updates lol

[Benn]

Why the Corsa and Calibra mounts?

[Gareth_C]

Why the Corsa and Calibra mounts?

Hi mate corsa front mount is 10mm wider so the engine is further from the chassis leg. Calibra mount cause it's a neater instal and makes it easy for engine changes.
CheerS

[Jedro]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg857/scaled.php?server=857&filename=abcd0014m.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg829/scaled.php?server=829&filename=abcd0015yo.jpg&res=medium

i like bit butts and i cannot lie. you other brothers cant deny!

snowman and his sexy skin coloured pants lol

[Gareth_C]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg857/scaled.php?server=857&filename=abcd0014m.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg829/scaled.php?server=829&filename=abcd0015yo.jpg&res=medium

i like bit butts and i cannot lie. you other brothers cant deny!

snowman and his sexy skin coloured pants lol

He always has his hands in his pockets lol

[Gareth_C]

Hi all a small update but a big milestone. Had the engine running today :d I Cant believe its been so easy after all this. So ive decided to finish the car and just get the outside painted untill the end of the year.
A small video for you
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/th_MOV04211.jpg (http://s761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/?action=view&current=MOV04211.mp4)
Its brings memories of the touring cars lol
Cheers

[scott.parker]

What country are you from again???































lol

[Gareth_C]

What country are you from again???

I ask myself that question most days mate

[Jedro]

<3 that sound.

what you do with the leaky fuel rail after i left?


....and am i rite in thinking snowman's says "give it a d!ck hew!" lol

[Gareth_C]

<3 that sound.

what you do with the leaky fuel rail after i left?


....and am i rite in thinking snowman's says "give it a d!ck hew!" lol

No he says give it a tickle lol. Replaced the seals and greased them

[Jedro]

sounds f!cking minnnt

[scott.parker]

sounds f!cking minnnt

Sounds fecking foreign to me! lol

[Gareth_C]

Sounds fecking foreign to me! lol

Lol it's as British as a fry up lol

[Danny s-p]

dose soned like the old school BTCC'S in the vid well done we don't say it much to you but the car a credit to you Gareth. now get the thing on the floor and drive and enjoy it the car owes you that at least

[Gareth_C]

Cheers Danny

[Jedro]

gareth do the hump do the hump hump

well said danny boy. get it done, im getting impatient now captain g

[Gareth_C]

A smal update though there ain't any pics the loom is fully tucked away the flocked dash is in the panel for the switch's has been made. Just got wire up the heated windscreen and tidy the wires in the boot area. Then once the tie bars arrive then were rolling. I'm gonna get it mot'd before the painting hopefully. So next weekend should be the day of reckoning really. I'll get pics asap cheers gareth

[Jedro]

heated windscreen you slaaaaaggg

[Gareth_C]

Yep it's makes the heating system redundant lol

[Jedro]

oww whats occurring!?

[david dixon]

he's being gay!

[Gareth_C]

he's being gay!

I don't know how you dare lol where's your updates. Come round tomorrow Jed and see the fun lol

[calibra-keith]

you made a start on the doors yet Gareth ?

[Gareth_C]

you made a start on the doors yet Gareth ?

Yeah mate I have adjust the steel template for the hinges, then I'm gonna get the ali items tig'd then there done.

[Jedro]

bet my corsa's still quicker

[david dixon]

I don't know how you dare lol where's your updates. Come round tomorrow Jed and see the fun lol

No updates here ;-)

[Gareth_C]

No updates here ;-)

I hope you don't kiss your mother with that lying mouth lol

[Gareth_C]

Well I have manged to get a couple of the fiddly things done this weekend. but TBF i have neglegted it this weekend :(.

I couldnt seem to get the lights working for my fuel pumps without dragging the earths about so I re made the plate.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04214.jpg
Fitted with the switches in.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04221.jpg
Then I tackled the stack dash, I had an idea in my head how i wanted it to sit and luckly it seems to be how I wanted it.
I cut some carbon fibre the same size as the inside of the nova cowling.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04215.jpg
I trimmed the inside of the cowling so the cabon would sit flush, then notched the top so the clocks would be fine. once I cut the centre out the carbon, I bonded the clocks to the carbon then bonded it to the cowling and ended up with this.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04220.jpg
Then I fitted to to the dash to see what it looked like.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04218.jpg
sits nicely in the centre
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04219.jpg
I have done other stuff but I keep forgetting the pics. im gonna do the wiring for the heated windscreen and the stack dash next eek after work then get panels sorted to have it to the painters very shortly.

Cheers Gareth

[Jonlem]

Those Elise dashes are ok but it doesn't cover the rpm you intend to use ??

Personally I'd just fit a separate tacho in there and run some separate gauges for oil pressure and water and oil temp.

[Gareth_C]

Those Elise dashes are ok but it doesn't cover the rpm you intend to use ??

Personally I'd just fit a separate tacho in there and run some separate gauges for oil pressure and water and oil temp.

Cheers for the input im sure ill find a way round it lol. ill probs just put a larger rev counter on aswell

[Jonlem]

Shame the LCD display is in the tacho, if it was the other way round you could of maybe squeezed a aftermarket tacho in the cluster.

Looking good though mate. Will call you this week with some good news hopefully :)

[Gareth_C]

Shame the LCD display is in the tacho, if it was the other way round you could of maybe squeezed a aftermarket tacho in the cluster.

Looking good though mate. Will call you this week with some good news hopefully :)

I'm sure its the end of the month on fri ;) :p

[Jedro]

i wanna feel the sunshine after the raaaiin....

blue flock is the sex

[david dixon]

I hope you don't kiss your mother with that lying mouth lol


I have no idea what you mean..... :p

[wwmnw]

Sounds fecking foreign to me! lol

Lol I'm 100% British beef thank you very much :p

[Gareth_C]

Lol I'm 100% British beef thank you very much :p

100% British beef dripping more like it :p :thumb:

[Prey]

shame you had to cut the hood after it was done - looking good tho mate now it's in! (btw i think you should send me that switch panel down to be done blue.....)

[Gareth_C]

shame you had to cut the hood after it was done - looking good tho mate now it's in! (btw i think you should send me that switch panel down to be done blue.....)

Cheers mate you have a email lol

[Danny s-p]

http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04219.jpg

Cheers Gareth

what the red thing were the choke normally go's

[Gareth_C]

It's the adjuster for the pedal box mate.

[Jedro]

its a go faster button danny


backstreet's back alrite

[Gareth_C]

its a go faster button danny


backstreet's back alrite

You have already used that Jed shame on you

[Jedro]

damn it, thought you wouldn't notice...



you, change your mind, like a girl, changes clothes, yer you, be a mess, like a bitch, i would know....
cos your hot then your cold, your yes and your no, your wrong when your rite....

[Gareth_C]

Are you sure it's a women your getting married to

[Jedro]

Are you sure it's a women your getting married to


been a while since i checked tbh mate lol

[Gareth_C]

Small update lol have finished mocking the door hinges up in aluminium they are bein tig'd this week. Welded up the fuel filler hose ready for paintin and am considering adding the strengthing kit to the engine bay and getting the bay re painted while my mate is painting the outside. But I haven't decided yet. New battery turned up so it's now on a dry cell race battery.

Oh yeah and I gave had a major self inflicted fcuk up. Managed to short the starter out on sat and start a little oil fire. Causing a problem with the ecu/ fuel system. Then Sunday set the rear brake lines on fire. Not a good weekend for the car lol
Pics to follow

[Jedro]

boom boom boom let me here you say weyo, WEYYYYOOOO

[pikey1986]

lollol

[Gareth_C]

Lol jed

[wwmnw]

Back Garden building isn't always FTW, should be left to the pros sometimes especially after last weekend lol

[Gareth_C]

Back Garden building isn't always FTW, should be left to the pros sometimes especially after last weekend lol

Your ****ing telling me lol. Just wait till the dorrs are hung at the weekend and the welding begins its gonna be a long weekend

[Jedro]

its gonna be a long weekend


its a date ;)

[Jedro]

is the maggot gagger there? im on my way round in a bit, waiting for the dragon to let me out haha

[Gareth_C]

Hi all I thought its about time I put some pics up as I have just pulled it back to bits for painting.
I thought I'd start with my new battery that turned up last week.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04223.jpg
Fitted in the car with its nice shiny FIA spec bracket
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04224.jpg
Also manged to get the Aluminuim door hinges tig'd you turned out quite well really
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04234.jpg
The weld.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04235.jpg
Also bought a strengthening kit from dave of griffin autosport.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04232.jpg
The strut tops from HHMS
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04237.jpg
We started by mounting the passenger door because i'd already fitted the lock system to it.
Outside
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04238.jpg
Inside
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04240.jpg
As the door sits
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04239.jpg

We then spent the afternoon taking the engine out as carefully as possible Took myself jed and wwmnw about 2hrs and we were left with this.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04241.jpg
Its going to My mates paintshop next weekend so he can colour in the outside and boot floor area but I'm not sure if i should rattle can the engine bay or get him to paint it properly. :confused:

[Gareth_C]

We fabricated the aluminuim hinges by getting some 4mm and some 5/8 (16mm) aluminium bar. I had the bar turned into barrels on the lathe at work 25mm in length with a 8mm hole in the middle. We then cut and filed the plate to match the contour of the door lines and drilled four 5mm holes in the hinge and through the door skin, then tapped the hinges to M6.using some M6x20mm button head stainless bolts, they were threaded through the hinge and the head was smeared with epoxy glue so they wont wind back out. the holes in the door skin were enlarged to 10mm so there is movement to adjust the door. we then copied the hole pattern on another piece of aluminium to go on the inside of the door. which we tigthened up using M6 washers and nyloc nuts.

Anybody needs pic see the post above thanks Gareth

[Mincyballs]

Good pregress mate... still going fast show? or is that a bit too much in too short time?

[Gareth_C]

Good pregress mate... still going fast show? or is that a bit too much in too short time?

I think I might let you have this victory mate lol:p
Seriously though I was gonna get it painted after the fast show but my mate has got loads of work book from april and he kept pushing his work load around so he could fit in my car. So if I dont do it now it will be a few months before he could do it again :(

[wwmnw]

It didnt take two hours to get the engine out did it?

[Gareth_C]

It didnt take two hours to get the engine out did it?

We started at 13:30 and finshed at 15:30 lol that includes the hoses etc

[wwmnw]

Time flys when ya having fun eh lol

[Gareth_C]

it aint fun when your playing with that pain in the **** lol

[Jonlem]

Looking good Gareth now you have the doors all lined up, rivet the alloy plates to the door so if you have to remove the doors they will fit back on exactly where they were. Thats how we did mine anyway and it works perfectly. ;)

[Gareth_C]

Looking good Gareth now you have the doors all lined up, rivet the alloy plates to the door so if you have to remove the doors they will fit back on exactly where they were. Thats how we did mine anyway and it works perfectly. ;)

I thought about something like that but I've used the existing barrel pins so the door should be removed via that method are we looking good on the powder coating lol

[Jonlem]

Going monday, they were still sat on their floor when he went over on friday ! doh Good for me as I wanted the Corsa ones in a different black but no good for you as more bloody delays, I'm told their going monday and will be back mid week so you may have a present for next weekend.

If you remove the pins you might find it changes where it sits which is why we did it the other way.

[wwmnw]

it aint fun when your playing with that pain in the **** lol

What pain in the ****? Your heap?

[Gareth_C]

Going monday, they were still sat on their floor when he went over on friday ! doh Good for me as I wanted the Corsa ones in a different black but no good for you as more bloody delays, I'm told their going monday and will be back mid week so you may have a present for next weekend.

If you remove the pins you might find it changes where it sits which is why we did it the other way.
Well I suppose I've waited 10 months for them I guess ONE more week won't hurt. Just aswell your not on bonus for a quick turn around :p

[Gareth_C]

What pain in the ****? Your heap?

Yeah mate

[BRoadGhost]

Gotta be so careful about the drain on a dry cell when not in use; I'm on my 3rd & just made a retaining bracket since it's not a standard size.

Those weld on turret tops are the most pointless things ever - the shell fails turret to body / legs not at the top.

Doors look excellent - I suppose polycarbs are the only way now. If I ran those I reckon i'ud be a good 40kg lighter :o

[Jonlem]

The Odyssey batteries are a huge improvement over the other brands IMO, mine has sat for a long time now and I just recently used it without any problems.

[16xe_chris]

Have to agree with jonlem, we used one for 12months to jump start various vans and rally cars without even charging it back up. Then put it back on the Subaru and it started that as well lol

[Gareth_C]

BR it has poly carb windows im putting the poly carb windows back in it. I'm not expecting to leave the battery for months but Ive took the terminals off anyway lol.

Cheers for the comments

[Jedro]

let get ready to rumble, lets get ready to rumbllllle, get ready, get steady, and rumble, everybody rumble!!

[Gareth_C]

Evening all. Best thought Id give an update. I now have both doors hung and level sitting nice. all the strengthening kit is welded in im not happy with some of the welds so im gonna grind them back and sort it out. Im taking the windscreen back out and finish off the engine bay and hopefully on sat afternoon it will be going for its re colour. on the engine bay outside and boot floor ready for a busy year. Im hoping it will be back in a couple of weeks to put all the stuff back together ready for fun

[Mieran]

Will this be a drag only car or will be used on track days too?

[Jonlem]

Bits didn't turn up today, he reckons tomorrow or friday latest.

Will be worth the wait ;)

[Gareth_C]

Will this be a drag only car or will be used on track days too?
I have built it to go as fast round corners as straights mate

[Gareth_C]

Bits didn't turn up today, he reckons tomorrow or friday latest.

Will be worth the wait ;)

I'm hoping so mate I'm starting to loose faith

[Jonlem]

Fear not, they are due back any day

[16xe_chris]

I have built it to go as fast round corners as straights mate

I did that with my old one, only I hit the kerb on the exit of said corner woops lmao

[Gareth_C]

I did that with my old one, only I hit the kerb on the exit of said corner woops lmao

Lol mate i favour the push it till it looks like its gonna tip

[16xe_chris]

Lol mate i favour the push it till it looks like its gonna tip

Lol I tried that one as well but found out that you can actually drive around circuits on 3 wheels wondering why the feck there is so much understeer, I'll try uploading the video as its quite amusing seeing a nova going around a mahosive corner with stationary wheels lol

[BRoadGhost]

That's because your ride heights aren't right.

[Gareth_C]

Lol I tried that one as well but found out that you can actually drive around circuits on 3 wheels wondering why the feck there is so much understeer, I'll try uploading the video as its quite amusing seeing a nova going around a mahosive corner with stationary wheels lol

Lol sounds like fun

[Jedro]

woooooohhhoooo livvvinnngg on a praaayyyer, take my hand and we'll make it i sw******rrrr

[16xe_chris]

That's because your ride heights aren't right.

Nope it was to do with the front Tarmac springs being compressed that hard that the insert was bottoming out inside the strut casings lol

[Southie]

Nope it was to do with the front Tarmac springs being compressed that hard that the insert was bottoming out inside the strut casings lol
Were those the AVO's? It was amusing seeing the Nova cocking it's leg like a puppy on every corner though lol

Gareth, keep motivated we've all been there and getting bored is actually part of the fun... once it's finished ;)

[Gareth_C]

Were those the AVO's? It was amusing seeing the Nova cocking it's leg like a puppy on every corner though lol

Gareth, keep motivated we've all been there and getting bored is actually part of the fun... once it's finished ;)

I know what you mean I think it's the target dates and not having the stuff to finish the car on them deadlines is what's slowing the process down

[Jedro]

We're off to see the Wizard
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz
We hear he is a Whiz of a Wiz
If ever a Wiz there was
If ever, oh ever, a Wiz there was
The Wizard of Oz is one because
Because, because, because, because, because
Because of the wonderful things he does
We're off to see the wizard
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz!

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg210/scaled.php?server=210&filename=dsc02547fb.jpg&res=medium

is it off to see the wizard G?

[Danny s-p]

is it back yet

[Gareth_C]

No it's not lol, we are aiming to have the shell back around the first week in may I have a couple of pics to update

[Jedro]

what colour is it going mr ' i reject calls that reject my calls ' hahaha


biiaatch

[Gareth_C]

It's gonna be lambo orange mate.

[Jedro]

update tonight, i can smell it in the air lol

[Gareth_C]

Well the car has been at my mates for a couple of weeks he is painting but as its a in the corner free job progress is slow lol.
But i finally finished the rollcage to how im sort of happy with it.
Welded to the struts.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04271.jpg
3mm spreader plates
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04270.jpg
How it sits
passenger
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04269.jpg
Drivers
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04267.jpg
welded in door bars
drivers
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04264-1.jpg
passengers
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04275.jpg
the weld quality
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04270.jpg
Also the engine bay is all primed so hopefully the bay will be painted by the weekend.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04273.jpg
Finally the cheeky knotched chassis to hold my oil tank
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04272.jpg

Cheers gareth

[Jedro]

ya big tart, welldone


sing uz a song

[Gareth_C]

I forgot to add all the rollcage bits were made on a floor with a cordless drill and a block of wood for a steady point so the quality might not be top notch lol

[Jedro]

whats happening with were you've cut through to the turrets, like in the bulk?
like the oil tank idea gigga

[Paul]

Theyre not triangulated?

[Gareth_C]

Theyre not triangulated?

Which bit you mean mate the front or the door bars

[Gareth_C]

whats happening with were you've cut through to the turrets, like in the bulk?
like the oil tank idea gigga
Plated over mate

[Paul]

To the turrets

[Gareth_C]

To the turrets

Is that a must do I'm only asking because It doesnt look like hobbit has his done. So I wasn't sure if it was a must or preference.

P.s Im glad you pulled on it I just want it to be rigth as it first I've done

[Paul]

Yeh just welding the straight bar to the turret wont do anything. The triangulation is the bit thatll give the strength. If u imagine the forces at the turrets are trying to go up and back. The straight bar wont stop that movement, whereas if youve got a tie from the front leg coming up the turret bar it will stop any movement. If that makes sense?

[Jedro]

iiii aaammmm iron mannn dar da dar da darr darrr darr

[Jedro]

you spin me rite round baby rite round, like a record baby rite round round round

gareth man, fingers out. not long now x

[Gareth_C]

I thought it was about time this was brought upto date I will add pics when I can. the engine bay is painted all the interior is back in and the body work is being done as we speak, hopefully the outside will be coloured in this weekend and polished ready for pvs next week im going to start sorting the insurance etc shortly aswel.

[BRoadGhost]

Welding a straight bar to the turret WILL do something, in fact quite a lot more than it not being there at all, BUT not as well as one triangulated.

Gareth you could put that oil tank anywhere you want in the car, if this truly is being built for corners then I'ud think about that.

[Gareth_C]

Cheers mate I put it there for convenience but I will look into moving stuff around to shift the weight

[Jedro]

sing uz a song

[Danny s-p]

were the pics

[Jedro]

heyyy, i just met you, and this is craaazy, but here's my number, so call me maybe

[Gareth_C]

were the pics

I have got a few but im doing stupid shift on the body work, and learn to spray at the same time its all good but its looking very likely for the pvs trip on sat

[welsh-nova]

i like keep it up :D

[Jedro]

get the pics lashed up captain G

[Gareth_C]

Just an update for anybody that noticed. On my 3rd run at pv on sat the main oil feed pressure line split while I was proceeding up the track at over 7500rpm, chucking oil everywhere.
I've stripped the sump off today and Found one set of knackered slipper rods & shells luckily that seems to be the only damage sustained so I think I've got off lightly. So I'll be getting the engine out to do the repairs and get stuff checked out aswell.

[Graeme]

Sounds expensive Gareth but fair play for getting straight on fixing it

[Gareth_C]

Approx £500 mate but im glad there's no visable crank damage that would have been too much

[Jonlem]

Dissapointed to see it fail like that, tbh though the engine sounded flat as a pancake at not that high rpm, whats the rev limit set too and where was peak power ?

[Gareth_C]

The engine seemed to drive fine the limit is set at 8500 as set by steve And it made 232bhp on fri night

[Prey]

good to hear it's looking positive on the damage (if there is such a thing!) mate, keep us posted.

[Jonlem]

The engine seemed to drive fine the limit is set at 8500 as set by steve And it made 232bhp on fri night

Thats one hell of a loss from the dyno figures isn't it !

What exhaust system is it on ? not knocking the build as we both know it has the right bits but when I was expecting it to sing it just sounded very flat, considering your times I'd say there is a underlying problem somewhere.

To be fair you did well to get it there, I'm quite sure with some tweaking the lost horses will reappear and the car will run good

[Gareth_C]

Thats one hell of a loss from the dyno figures isn't it !

What exhaust system is it on ? not knocking the build as we both know it has the right bits but when I was expecting it to sing it just sounded very flat, considering your times I'd say there is a underlying problem somewhere.

To be fair you did well to get it there, I'm quite sure with some tweaking the lost horses will reappear and the car will run good

When paul @ Rs tuning started it was only reading 197bhp, I dont think its too bad as the torque figure is 200ft lb (that reading is 100% accurate) we will see what its like when i rebuild it.

[Jonlem]

197 ! well something obviously went tits up since the dyno. As you say see how it goes once rebuilt.

[16xe_chris]

Gutted to hear this mate, what times did you do on the 1st and 2nd attempt?

[Gareth_C]

The fastest I got was a 13.5 but I was told I was wheel spinning quite alot.

[16xe_chris]

Bugger! Are you running a slippy diff?

[david dixon]

is that 3" exhaust not setting you back a bit?

[Jonlem]

is that 3" exhaust not setting you back a bit?

If its 3" its too big. Something has clearly gone wrong since the dyno as even if the figures were slightly out ( which I doubt ) its lost nearly 60hp hasn't it ?

[Gareth_C]

If its 3" its too big. Something has clearly gone wrong since the dyno as even if the figures were slightly out ( which I doubt ) its lost nearly 60hp hasn't it ?

Not according to SBD but I'll ask the question

[Jedro]

The fastest I got was a 13.5 but I was told I was wheel spinning quite alot.

i saw it spin up 1st, 2nd and quite a bit of 3rd on that run. such a shame after whats gone into this bud... keep at it. get what needs fixed done first. sort out the oil lines and worry about the rest later.

[BRoadGhost]

I really don't want to sound rude, but did you run all the new engine components in before even taking it on the rollers? Kid gloves, variable loads & speeds for the first 1000 miles then fresh oil & filter is in order, along with limited revs is best.

What was the oil pressure doing since the build? Where was the heat telling on the rods?

[Jonlem]

It shouldn't be spinning in 2nd let alone 3rd, even more so as your on a tall 1st and 2nd ?

How did you set the arms up in the end ?

[Gareth_C]

I really don't want to sound rude, but did you run all the new engine components in before even taking it on the rollers? Kid gloves, variable loads & speeds for the first 1000 miles then fresh oil & filter is in order, along with limited revs is best.

What was the oil pressure doing since the build? Where was the heat telling on the rods?

The engine was built and ran in on an engine bed in Essex somewhere by steveboyslim mate, the oil pressure was at 75psi and I haven't had the full rods out but the heat Mark were on the caps.

[Gareth_C]

It shouldn't be spinning in 2nd let alone 3rd, even more so as your on a tall 1st and 2nd ?

How did you set the arms up in the end ?
It felt like it was spinning in those gears others have said the same, the arms I haven't really played with Specky the wheels want moving back a few cm

[Jonlem]

I really don't want to sound rude, but did you run all the new engine components in before even taking it on the rollers? Kid gloves, variable loads & speeds for the first 1000 miles then fresh oil & filter is in order, along with limited revs is best.

What was the oil pressure doing since the build? Where was the heat telling on the rods?

It was run on a bench dyno at Joe Stevens prior to being fitted in the car, this is why I think something has gone tits up as it made something like 260hp there then 197 @ RS Tuning, knowing who mapped it initially I would be very surprised if the map was a issue and even if it was to lose over 60hp from a atmo engine is outrageous

[Jonlem]

It felt like it was spinning in those gears others have said the same, the arms I haven't really played with Specky the wheels want moving back a few cm

As you say it was all very last minute for you but you certainly want to set those up for the next time out. On 2 of the runs I saw I'd say it wasn't wheel spinning after 1st as the gearing really does seems very tall, it wants a different cwp in there if your just using the one straight out of a F20

[Gareth_C]

It was run on a bench dyno at Joe Stevens prior to being fitted in the car, this is why I think something has gone tits up as it made something like 260hp there then 197 @ RS Tuning, knowing who mapped it initially I would be very surprised if the map was a issue and even if it was to lose over 60hp from a atmo engine is outrageous

The sheet I got was 244bhp but I can't get it fixed how a 3" exhaust fitted to the type c as spec by SBD would lose so much power but the fact it did 200ft lb of torque didn't get me to concerned as I didn't want Tje build to end up pub figures

[Gareth_C]

As you say it was all very last minute for you but you certainly want to set those up for the next time out. On 2 of the runs I saw I'd say it wasn't wheel spinning after 1st as the gearing really does seems very tall, it wants a different cwp in there if your just using the one straight out of a F20

Yes I'm using the STD f20 final drive, again it was suggested that was the more practical way of doing it

[BRoadGhost]

You'll be able to tell by looking at the rod bearings if they've spun, which could mean the bolts weren't stretched correctly when being assembled or not run in enough before given the abuse; assuming the oil pressure never failed. Good luck with sorting it. If it's you rebuilding, once it's all back together take the time to turn it over to get the pressure up before firing it.

[Gareth_C]

You'll be able to tell by looking at the rod bearings if they've spun, which could mean the bolts weren't stretched correctly when being assembled or not run in enough before given the abuse; assuming the oil pressure never failed. Good luck with sorting it. If it's you rebuilding, once it's all back together take the time to turn it over to get the pressure up before firing it.

The pipe split on the main oil line so the top layer of the bearing is non existent really mate

[Jonlem]

I'm quite sure Giles had either a 2.5 or 2.75" Simpson system on his nigh on 270hp xe, 3" is turbo territory or maybe the much bigger 300+ engines.

Final drive is a tricky one but the best of the stock ones would be a F20 4x4 FD iirc but really you want to look towards something much closer which will keep the engine in the power all the time, I can't remember if Ollys ( Trackdaynova ) was on a 4:1 or 5:1 but that pulled a 12 sec pass and the gearing was sweet for trackwork.

New Quaife FD is a lot of money though so its something you want to make sure is fit for purpose.

[steveboyslim]

I really don't want to sound rude, but did you run all the new engine components in before even taking it on the rollers? Kid gloves, variable loads & speeds for the first 1000 miles then fresh oil & filter is in order, along with limited revs is best.

What was the oil pressure doing since the build? Where was the heat telling on the rods?

There is a youtube video of the engine run on an engine dyno before it went in the car see http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?145354-My-XE-nova-on-throttle-bodies-(Project-275-bhp)/page62 post #619

Steve

[steveboyslim]

You'll be able to tell by looking at the rod bearings if they've spun, which could mean the bolts weren't stretched correctly when being assembled or not run in enough before given the abuse; assuming the oil pressure never failed. Good luck with sorting it. If it's you rebuilding, once it's all back together take the time to turn it over to get the pressure up before firing it.

Bearings can spin even if the rod bolts are correctly stretched.

Steve

[Gareth_C]

If its 3" its too big. Something has clearly gone wrong since the dyno as even if the figures were slightly out ( which I doubt ) its lost nearly 60hp hasn't it ?

Just an update, I spoke to Craig from SBD this morning and the 3" exhaust they say is recommended for the xe using the type C manifold. He also said all the work that's needed is done by the manifold so the exhaust won't cause the issue. He also they tested type c on a engine dyno with a 3" exhaust fitted and then the manifold by itself and there was no power difference

[Jonlem]

Can't argue with that then, I am quite sure others don't use 3" systems though but if they work so be it.

All that said there must be a big problem somewhere on it to of lost that much power

[Gareth_C]

He also said the power Los could be down to the fact of it being fitted into the car due to air restrictions etc but also maybe rs roller read lower Im not sure but with a torque figure Rhys 7ft lb up from the engine dyno session then tere must be something right in it. Issues will be fixed then I'll take it from there

[Jonlem]

Can't argue with that then, I am quite sure others don't use 3" systems though but if they work so be it.

All that said there must be a big problem somewhere on it to of lost that much power

[MK999]

He also said the power Los could be down to the fact of it being fitted into the car due to air restrictions etc but also maybe rs roller read lower Im not sure but with a torque figure Rhys 7ft lb up from the engine dyno session then tere must be something right in it. Issues will be fixed then I'll take it from there

How was the dyno calibrated for the run, any ideas? as if the torque is correct, but BHP massively down it points towards the RPM calibration being out, unless it's seeing a large enough air restriction to strangle the flow for top end, but that's fairly unlikely.

[Gareth_C]

How was the dyno calibrated for the run, any ideas? as if the torque is correct, but BHP massively down it points towards the RPM calibration being out, unless it's seeing a large enough air restriction to strangle the flow for top end, but that's fairly unlikely.
Tbh I'm not sure how the rollers were done the torque was done by the injector cycle. There shouldn't be any restriction the bulkhead is bit is cut out and the bonnet was completly off.
The only possible restriction is the air filter but its massive

[MK999]

Is there a pic of your bay with filter etc in here somewhere? I've not seen one but I tend to be a bit erratic on here the last year, I'll trawl through if there is one lol Main tell tale on your dyno printout is if the redline is a bit early, it's probably been calibrated a bit out.

Power = Torque x RPM, so if it thinks you're revving a bit slower than you are, the torque will be spot on, but it will calc your power a bit down on what it actually is.

[Gareth_C]

Is there a pic of your bay with filter etc in here somewhere? I've not seen one but I tend to be a bit erratic on here the last year, I'll trawl through if there is one lol Main tell tale on your dyno printout is if the redline is a bit early, it's probably been calibrated a bit out.

Power = Torque x RPM, so if it thinks you're revving a bit slower than you are, the torque will be spot on, but it will calc your power a bit down on what it actually is.

Pics of filter sorry if there a bit crap ive just braved the garage to take them.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04278.jpg
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04282.jpg
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04279.jpg
Also pics of the power graph sorry again if its a crap pic ill try and scan it if people dont get the idea
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04285.jpg
Also I must say a HUGE thanks to Dave at PEC (performance engine components) i phoned him and told him what id done over the weekend and he gave me a really good discount on another set of rods, its nice to see some companys will still help you when your luck is ****.
So these came in the post
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/gaffs2000/DSC04286.jpg

[Iain]

I'm ringing him tomorrow with a made up story, discount ftw lol Nice work cracking on with the repairs

[Gareth_C]

I'm ringing him tomorrow with a made up story, discount ftw lol Nice work cracking on with the repairs

lol mate im trying to see the guy i bought the hose off for more, better hose for free lol

[MK999]

Shouldn't have too much issue with your filter setup, used by plenty of people. It may well be pulling a lot of hot air straight off the exhaust though, that will definitely drop the power a surprising amount.

On the power graph, any idea where your usual redline is? it doesn't seem quite as much as 20-30% out though tbh.

[Gareth_C]

Shouldn't have too much issue with your filter setup, used by plenty of people. It may well be pulling a lot of hot air straight off the exhaust though, that will definitely drop the power a surprising amount.

On the power graph, any idea where your usual redline is? it doesn't seem quite as much as 20-30% out though tbh.
The redline was originally set at 8500rpm and I don't think it was changed

[MK999]

The redline was originally set at 8500rpm and I don't think it was changed

Looks like it is calibrated 500RPM short then, you can add about 6% for free lol Call it 246 :p