12k mile mrk 1 C20let Project!!

[discoinferno]

i dont know enough about engines to have an acurate guess at what it will make with the mods but im going to have wild guess at 372?

id thats lower than what your expecting sorry lol

if it makes 372 i will be happy lol:thumb:

[Plug]

lol well thats my guess :) hope all goes well with the mapping and hopefully you will make the summer action day :D hopefully i do also

[discoinferno]

lol well thats my guess :) hope all goes well with the mapping and hopefully you will make the summer action day :D hopefully i do also

fingerscrossed it will be there its tax'd insured and mot'd so just need the final mapping donw and we are away :d

[Adam]

Looks sweet mate, bay looks awesome

[scott.parker]

Are the dark bits some sort of corner bumper (like off another make of car?) and your not going to run normal bumper?

looks ace, sounds lovely, hope all goes well dude.

Scott

[discoinferno]

Looks sweet mate, bay looks awesome

thankyou:)

[discoinferno]

Are the dark bits some sort of corner bumper (like off another make of car?) and your not going to run normal bumper?

looks ace, sounds lovely, hope all goes well dude.

Scott

the darker bits are what were on the car as std all ive done is take the gte bumper off and not got rund to making it fit yet! it will be on though fingerscrossed

it will sound much better and cleaner once the excess fuel is removed lower down, its running a bit rich, but will be sorted asap, i m happy it runs, idles and even drives

now to add some boost:thumb:

[Will F]

the darker bits are what were on the car as std all ive done is take the gte bumper off and not got rund to making it fit yet! it will be on though fingerscrossed

it will sound much better and cleaner once the excess fuel is removed lower down, its running a bit rich, but will be sorted asap, i m happy it runs, idles and even drives

now to add some boost:thumb:

A Bit rich?? lol

Bore-washing for fun! ;)

Can you re-schedule the mapping session? Combo doesnt like the current date and neither do I!:thumb:

[discoinferno]

A Bit rich?? lol

Bore-washing for fun! ;)

Can you re-schedule the mapping session? Combo doesnt like the current date and neither do I!:thumb:

tis a bit like when we ran your valver on the 1.6 16v map!!!!!!
tis easily sorted though
i wont be running it now until its mapped as she does run rich even with just 2 bar of fuel pressure! with the 750's its like opening the bathroom taplollollollollol i ve trimmed alot off the map lower down but its still hit and miss really without a decent wideband

mapping is booked and confirmed, get the day off you mess, if i re schedule it puts it back, the date has been set the car is ready to go, i want it done!!!!

[let_nova]

looking nice in that bay!! without me trawling through pages and pages (im at work) what turbo you using?

[discoinferno]

looking nice in that bay!! without me trawling through pages and pages (im at work) what turbo you using?

t34:thumb:

[discoinferno]

well been trying to get the bumper to fit today, as the one that came with the car is not perfect i decided to experiment! i will get another at some point

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00021.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00022-1.jpg

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its far from perfect but it will do, once i get another one i will make it fit that little bit better, due to the size of the rad and how far it sticks out from the front of the car it is difficult to get it to look tidy, and the oil cooler positioned where it is very tight against the inside edge but its on and its not that bad :thumb:

at least i can do some miles in it now:thumb:

[Fow16v]

looking good, good to see it all running, will be looking forrward to seeing it at combe. i take it the grille has no chance of fitting?

[discoinferno]

looking good, good to see it all running, will be looking forrward to seeing it at combe. i take it the grille has no chance of fitting?

maybe but will have to chop about 60-70% of it away will have a look a bit later see what i can come up with

[Will F]

Have a few stellas - you will find inspiration!

Hammer and a flat-blade screwdriver.

[scott.parker]

Yeah i reckon you can get that grill to fit mate, just a junior hacksaw and some persuading! lol

Looks ace though, and if you do get the grill in it will look alto less noticeable thats it's got some power under the bonnet.

[discoinferno]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00030.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00031.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00036.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00038-2.jpg


the grill fits :)

[scott.parker]

Can you glue the center section onto the bumper some how?

lol see said a hacksaw would sort it!

[SRimon]

That looks a weapon with the bonnet up buddy!

Still leaves it a bit stealth from outside though!

[discoinferno]

no i dont think i can as the fans protrude out from where the grill would sit so i would have bits either side of the fans and in between them and it would look awful with bits stuck everywhere! it looks a bit neater if thats the right word

[The Simps]

Good job, I like it.

[g111mds]

just read the thread from the start. Great build!

Jamie

[discoinferno]

Good job, I like it.

thank you:d

[discoinferno]

just read the thread from the start. Great build!

Jamie

thanks alot :thumb: keep an eye out for videos of mapping and final power figures

[Ben]

lol how long before its littered with stones!

[discoinferno]

lol how long before its littered with stones!

what do you mean mate?

[Plug]

stones in the rad and intercooler i think he ment

[Ben]

stones in the rad and intercooler i think he ment

yeah lol

[discoinferno]

it'll be alright :)

[Ernie]

bit of mesh ftw.

[discoinferno]

bit of mesh ftw.

escort rs turbos and my mates fiesta rs ran the whole rad intercooler totally un covered and they are fine! most cars run the intercooler uncovered anyways

im confident it will be ok i ran my old ka turbos with out anything covering them and they were ok!

[Ernie]

furry muff.Are you still bringing it to combe ?

[discoinferno]

furry muff.Are you still bringing it to combe ?

yeah it will be there, may even get on track :D she will be all mapped up and running full power hopefully by then :d

[Ernie]

cool

[discoinferno]

mapping date is booked for monday of next week :) fiongerscrossed it survives

[Plug]

:thumb:

hope all goes well on mapping day mate :)

Will be waiting for the update :d

[Will F]

yeah it will be there, may even get on track :D she will be all mapped up and running full power hopefully by then :d

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

lol

[discoinferno]

:thumb:

hope all goes well on mapping day mate :)

Will be waiting for the update :d

cheers:thumb:

[discoinferno]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

lol

YEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

your just miffed because you cantr get the day off to come:cool:

[corsakid]

ill be there though 20+ psi of BBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!

[Ben]

YEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

your just miffed because you cantr get the day off to come:cool:

bet your pleased hes not going, if the bloke seen calamity kid walking in there he would throw you out or charge you double!

[discoinferno]

bet your pleased hes not going, if the bloke seen calamity kid walking in there he would throw you out or charge you double!

very true the old "not you again get out"lol lol lol lol lol lol

he did cost the guy a fortune last time

[discoinferno]

ill be there though 20+ psi of BBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Ben]

very true the old "not you again get out"lol lol lol lol lol lol

he did cost the guy a fortune last time

Thats because he is an accident waiting to happen!

What figures are you hoping to get?

[discoinferno]

Thats because he is an accident waiting to happen!

What figures are you hoping to get?

370-380 i think it should make

the turbo makes anthing from 350-420 on cosworths, with the larger cams, head work, larger valves, and the 3" exhaust it should flow very well

and the fact the rods are in the bottom end means you will be able to rev it and with it being a 0.63 it will hold boost to 7000-7500 and not tail off:d

should make for a very good spread of torque

[tahir868]

nice mate ;)

[discoinferno]

update :- ready to map

finally got round to fitting a cambelt cover not painted yet but will do the job for now

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00046-1.jpg

also fitted some 90 degree bends for the chargecooler system:thumb: looks alot better imo

filled up the system will water wetter and water mix took around 6 -7 litres

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installed a new internal shifter with quaife gearknob

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also got some gauges - water temp, oil pressure and boost

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00042.jpg

wired them up

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00050.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00052.jpg

[corsakid]

Looks much better with the bends now.
cant believe how good that water pump is for the chargecooler, though i suppose people use them to cool v8 engines and alike so a little charegcooler system is childs play.

gauges look good to, will do the job and you get to keep the radio :)

[corsakid]

BIG UP JDM DYNO john is a legend it took 5 hours each way but well worth it the nova made

363BHP 382FT LBS AT ONLY 1 BAR!

we decided to leave it at that for the time being as the engine is brand new and hasnt really been run in so gie it a few weeks and well be back up for MORE BOOST!

VIDEOS AND PICTURES TO FOLLOW

[Benn]

Nice figures.

[Ben]

Plenty more to come then! excellent!

[corsakid]

yeah but we just wanted to see how the car drove with this much power it suprised everyone with how much power it made on such low boost. The engine and tubo can easily run 2 bar but its weaTHER IT WILL BE DRIVABLE LIKE IT!

[discoinferno]

363BHP 382FT LBS AT ONLY 1 BAR!

im over the moon with it, it has the potential to make well over 400, although i will drive it round like this for a few weeks, get some miles on the engine, then maybe if i take a few brave pills back up for another 14psi of boost :)

its taken over 11 hrs driving there and back but it was well worth it!!!!

[Rick Draper]

Good stuff.

[The Simps]

Gotta be chuffed with that! Top result mate.

[discoinferno]

Gotta be chuffed with that! Top result mate.

yes well happy! over the moon in fact

[corsakid]

on the transit flatbed at a services just outside carlisle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/nova2-1.jpg

on the rollers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/nova-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/nova1-3.jpg

few vids

first is at 1 bar the last vid is at around 0.8 bar

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_026-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view&current=026-1.flv)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_027.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view&current=027.flv)

[discoinferno]

awesome :)

[The Simps]

SQUEAL PIGGY!!! lol

[Will F]

Glad I didnt come now!

11 hours with you two smelly feckers!?? No Ta! lol

Nice figures, I will be round later to give her the Foy road test......

[Plug]

Well done mate :thumb:

very nice figures indeed.

What do i win then? I was 9 bhp out. :) ride at combe :d lol

[Matt]

Crazy figures! Is that JDM Dyno as in JDM in Kirkbride, Cumbria?

Just down the road from me is it was!

Top stuff :thumb:

[discoinferno]

Crazy figures! Is that JDM Dyno as in JDM in Kirkbride, Cumbria?

Just down the road from me is it was!

Top stuff :thumb:

yes jdm in kirkbride :)

[discoinferno]

SQUEAL PIGGY!!! lol


:cool:

[discoinferno]

Well done mate :thumb:

very nice figures indeed.

What do i win then? I was 9 bhp out. :) ride at combe :d lol

if i go out then yes mate you can have a ride :)

[discoinferno]

few more pictures

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00056-2.jpg

[SRimon]

Super stuff...one quick Nova that then!

[corsakid]

Super stuff...one quick Nova that then!
will be yes

[Matt]

yes jdm in kirkbride :)

Cool! My missus lives in Kirkbride. Gutted I didn't see you as I was there most of yesterady :(

[scott.parker]

Top marks dude! dam good figures!..

[discoinferno]

Cool! My missus lives in Kirkbride. Gutted I didn't see you as I was there most of yesterady :(

i'll be back up in a few weeks mate for more boost, will drop you a pm when a date is confirmed and your more than welcome to pop down

[discoinferno]

Top marks dude! dam good figures!..

yeah im overe the moon with what it made and more so the torque will be an animal, as its as such low boost the turbos not stressed, engine is not stressed, so should be reliable at this figure:d

[Kev Turbo]

Well done,

Nice to see someone actually see a project through to the end relitivly problem free and actually achieve some nice figures.

Go enjoy it!!!

[Will F]

Well done,

Nice to see someone actually see a project through to the end relitivly problem free and actually achieve some nice figures.

Go enjoy it!!!

He cant yet! He still hasnt bought any fecking bonnet pins - so he still cant drive it! :eek:

I will go over with my ratchet, rip the bonnet off and drive it.

[discoinferno]

Well done,

Nice to see someone actually see a project through to the end relitivly problem free and actually achieve some nice figures.

Go enjoy it!!!

cheers kev:thumb:

[Adam]

Top result :cool:

[discoinferno]

Top result :cool:

cheers adam:)

[Will F]

Suprised you havent posted, following your maiden voyage last night!?

Got a knock at the door just as I was about to eat my pizza at 9pm last night to the sound of a rumbling LET...

Although I wasnt allowed to drive it (:( ) Gary explained that it was 'savage' and an 'animal' and other superlatives to describe 360+ torques through the front wheels.....

And apart from a split return hose to the header tank - all was good!

Yippee! All it needs is a passenger seat! :thumb:

[Plug]

lol at the going out for a drive without a passenger seat. The amount of times i went out for a blast in a xe nova sat on a bucket lol

[Will F]

Technically he hasnt even got a driver's seat either!

It was his brother's he robbed! lol

[matthew172]

thats the same dyno that my xe made 180 bhp and 179 torques on that everyone slated and said it was wrong!

but some of the ppl that slated it seem not to be argueing with your figures.......

jonathan is a good guy who deffo knows his stuff, very very clever man

your nova looks awesome and has produced good figures and im sure you will be very happy with the job he has done with mapping your car

ill be taking mine to him to be mapped as soon as its finished

[Will F]

thats the same dyno that my xe made 180 bhp and 179 torques on that everyone slated and said it was wrong!




Thats because they were lol

[matthew172]

Thats because they were lol

why were they?

[discoinferno]

thats the same dyno that my xe made 180 bhp and 179 torques on that everyone slated and said it was wrong!

but some of the ppl that slated it seem not to be argueing with your figures.......

jonathan is a good guy who deffo knows his stuff, very very clever man

your nova looks awesome and has produced good figures and im sure you will be very happy with the job he has done with mapping your car

ill be taking mine to him to be mapped as soon as its finished

i am very very happy with what johnny did, it drives so nicely doing 30mph as it does at 150+ :d
took it over to see will foy last night everything was good apart from my bic pen i used to join 2 pipes decided not to play ball! quick fix with some new pipe and we were away. was a temp fix a while ago but just forgot to change it

took it to work yesterday, on the way home it was like a missle (roads were dry), you just point and aim, the only problem is judging your braking distances as you come up to standing traffic and other cars so fast before you know it your almost into the back of them, but it is fast very fast, it does torque steer but not as much as i thought, its knida controllable lollol

im very happy, cant wait to go back for another 14 psi :cool:

[Rick Draper]

thats the same dyno that my xe made 180 bhp and 179 torques on that everyone slated and said it was wrong!

Keep your pub talk figures out of here:cry: :thumb:

[Will F]

So can you bring it out to play tonight then? :)

Llanwerrrrnnnnn Draaaagggggg

[discoinferno]

So can you bring it out to play tonight then? :)

Llanwerrrrnnnnn Draaaagggggg

no:)

[matthew172]

i am very very happy with what johnny did, it drives so nicely doing 30mph as it does at 150+ :d
took it over to see will foy last night everything was good apart from my bic pen i used to join 2 pipes decided not to play ball! quick fix with some new pipe and we were away. was a temp fix a while ago but just forgot to change it

took it to work yesterday, on the way home it was like a missle (roads were dry), you just point and aim, the only problem is judging your braking distances as you come up to standing traffic and other cars so fast before you know it your almost into the back of them, but it is fast very fast, it does torque steer but not as much as i thought, its knida controllable lollol

im very happy, cant wait to go back for another 14 psi :cool:

great stuff, where did you get the emerald management from? as i need to buy mine soon, think ill just get mine through jonny then i know its right

[discoinferno]

i got my emerald ecu from advanced powertrain developments in swansea, then got all the sensors loom plugs etc from emerald direct! :thumb:

[discoinferno]

some more updates :)

had some stickers made up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00062.jpg

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[Cormac]

Even tho i was one of the people that thought 'why were you wrecking a mint genuine shell' ive totally changed my mind. Flipping stunning project. Excellent dyno results also!!

[discoinferno]

Even tho i was one of the people that thought 'why were you wrecking a mint genuine shell' ive totally changed my mint. Flipping stunning project. Excellent dyno results also!!

thankyou:thumb:

[Plug]

now just get it ready for the track lol

so whens it going in for its next map session for more POWER lol

[discoinferno]

now just get it ready for the track lol

so whens it going in for its next map session for more POWER lol

tbh it doesnt need any more power 382 ft lbs of torque is enough for any car!

but i will go up in a few weeks

[Will F]

tbh it doesnt need any more power 382 ft lbs of torque is enough for any car!

but i will go up in a few weeks

You hardly drive it enough as it is - get used to teh current power before you go getting 600! lol

[elgan]

not sure which one of u 2 messaged me about ream beam. but get my number off gareth and give me a call. may have a newport run 2moro evenin

[discoinferno]

not sure which one of u 2 messaged me about ream beam. but get my number off gareth and give me a call. may have a newport run 2moro evenin

sold it nw mate

[discoinferno]

You hardly drive it enough as it is - get used to teh current power before you go getting 600! lol

weather is rubbish of late! 600 is a nice figure :cool:

[discoinferno]

:(well the process of breaking parts has already begun, turbo seals need replacing as it started to smoke randomly, it also snapped a lower arm bolt earlier when i was full throttle in 3rd, it was certainly a brown pant moment :( managed to nurse it home and get it replaced, as a result everything had moved, so the linkage needed adjusting again, will foy came round and held the stick to realign, then spent a few hours bolt checking!

hopefully should be ok for tomorrow took it for a quick drive all seems well
fingers crossed

[Fow16v]

lol at snaping the lower arm bolt that is mad. how the hell have you killed the turbo seals already lol

[discoinferno]

lol at snaping the lower arm bolt that is mad. how the hell have you killed the turbo seals already lol

turbo was the only thing that was 2nd hand i was in 2 minds to send it away when i bought it... it looked and felt fine so didnt bother, it was a gamble that didnt pay off :roll: but hey we live and learn, will get it sorted next week :)

[Will F]

F*ck it, could be worse! Could have snapped the crank.

745 tomorrow chav?

[discoinferno]

F*ck it, could be worse! Could have snapped the crank.

745 tomorrow chav?

ok:d

[discoinferno]

well this is the current state of play with the nova

on the way back from castle combe it spat its dummy out

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00066.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00067.jpg

so on with the rebuild

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2676.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2677.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2681.jpg

[let_nova]

fook, no joy eh!!

[John]

Kin Ell! what happenned?

[peester]

is it me or is summat mangled on a stand thur???

[discoinferno]

it melted a piston:tard:

it'll be back in a week or so with even more power :cool:

[The Simps]

any idea of the cause? complete bummer.

[discoinferno]

any idea of the cause? complete bummer.

not sure tbh std pistons just couldnt cope i suppose, could be to much timing top end somethign im looking into

going omega 87mm , oil squirters, new cams, new valve springs, possibly a bigger turbo :cool:

[scott.parker]

Fook didn't know it scrambled a piston!

Glad nothings too damaged, is it?

New plan's sound good, crazy...BIGGER TURBO, what? lol

[djbrowney]

fook me did realise it **** it self lol

all ways a piss off when it does, did it run lean or been running lean ??? iirc you put new mahla pistons in did you no ???

new build sounds good there is a 3076 for sale i have seen tonight lol lol

[djbrowney]

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/items-sale/403754-c20let-87mm-bottom-end-stripping.html

[Ernie]

didnt know you broke it on the way home.Hope to see it back on the road asap.

[discoinferno]

thanks for comments it looks like it just ran too much ignition at the top end which heated up the combustion chamber and the piston couldnt cope with the heat, it had plenty of fuel

will be back soon

[Ernie]

cool

[Will F]

What he doesnt mention is that we conveniently have a BTCC engine builder in our small village, who has taken the job on to make sure this wont happen again! :thumb:

[Ernie]

even better result

[philip]

shouldnt need a btcc builder to build it though really. sound more like a mapping error than a build error. this the one that went same place as nics?

may sound stupid but how did they map it? gradual or just up the revs, take an average and either richen or weaken it? just i know of a local ish rolling road that have a very silly way off mapping cars thats all.

you getting the omegas off steveboyslim?

[Will F]

shouldnt need a btcc builder to build it though really. sound more like a mapping error than a build error. this the one that went same place as nics?

may sound stupid but how did they map it? gradual or just up the revs, take an average and either richen or weaken it? just i know of a local ish rolling road that have a very silly way off mapping cars thats all.

you getting the omegas off steveboyslim?

So it doesnt need rebuilding then?? lol

Whether or not it was mapping or build error, if its built properly (and mapped well obv) things are less likely to go the way of the pear!

The map was the first thing that was scrutinised, but it was fine - could be any number of things that caused it....

[Andy_L]

thanks for comments it looks like it just ran too much ignition at the top end which heated up the combustion chamber and the piston couldnt cope with the heat, it had plenty of fuel

will be back soon

So it was mapped wrongly/poorly??

Rotten luck

[discoinferno]

:d
So it was mapped wrongly/poorly??

Rotten luck

wasnt mapped poorly just strong up top
will be back soon

[philip]

oh yeah good one...because i said it didnt need rebuilding! point is you dont need someone who builds btcc motors to build that LET back up.

id start looking at what definately caused it too melt so doesnt happen again. all good say ignition, but id want to know if it was ignition why it funked up.

what plugs were you using out of curiousity?

[Will F]

Well if you have someone who lives less than a mile away that works for a BTCC team as a builder/engineer and he offered to do it, then why would you not??

I know what you are saying, but with over 400 bhp and even more torque, I would want someone who could build it reliably tbh....

[Rick Draper]

Well if you have someone who lives less than a mile away that works for a BTCC team as a builder/engineer and he offered to do it, then why would you not??

I know what you are saying, but with over 400 bhp and even more torque, I would want someone who could build it reliably tbh....

TBH i would just take it to Bernie and Leepu to be rebuilt lol

[discoinferno]

oh yeah good one...because i said it didnt need rebuilding! point is you dont need someone who builds btcc motors to build that LET back up.

id start looking at what definately caused it too melt so doesnt happen again. all good say ignition, but id want to know if it was ignition why it funked up.

what plugs were you using out of curiousity?

i have no data logging software but having checked everything and checked again

[Will F]

I didnt realise - I thought that is was 'OK'?

So who is going to map it next time?

ChiP?lol

[discoinferno]

not sure yet mate one step at a time lets get the engine built, fitted and running again and then decide long way to go till then!

[philip]

if want it mapping and dont mind the distance..iirc didnt you take it jdm?

my mates are very good. 2 mates ive built lets for are running 400+bhp. but im up north wales, so good few hours trailering, and the lads dont charge the earth either or bull**** you with anything

[Rick Draper]

if want it mapping and dont mind the distance..iirc didnt you take it jdm?

my mates are very good. 2 mates ive built lets for are running 400+bhp. but im up north wales, so good few hours trailering, and the lads dont charge the earth either or bull**** you with anything

Did one of your mates engines not melt on the rollers a while back:eek:

[philip]

not a mapping error though all the datalog was fine. head went pop

[discoinferno]

if want it mapping and dont mind the distance..iirc didnt you take it jdm?

my mates are very good. 2 mates ive built lets for are running 400+bhp. but im up north wales, so good few hours trailering, and the lads dont charge the earth either or bull**** you with anything

not sure who will do it yet may even do it myself, we'll see!

[robertdevlin69]

unfortunate,i hope you were thrashing it when it happened

[Will F]

not sure who will do it yet may even do it myself, we'll see!

lol

Yeahhhhhhhhhh - gauranteed to go pop as soon as you pull off your drive.

[Ernie]

How many spare lets you got ready then Will lol.

[discoinferno]

How many spare lets you got ready then Will lol.


:thumb: :thumb: im sure this time it will be ok, :cool:

[Fow16v]

gutting mate not simple as first thought then. glad to see your not giving up tho and look forward to seeing it abck even better.

[discoinferno]

i now have everything for the engine rebuild :-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2683.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2684.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2685.jpg

[djbrowney]

have been to see sbs lol

[discoinferno]

have been to see sbs lol

its where all the bits came from yes:d

[Paul]

Get it built!

[discoinferno]

Get it built!

early next week mate it will be built:thumb:

[gunny]

Get it built!

Hear Hear!

[discoinferno]

Hear Hear!

will be built next week :cool:

[gunny]

:thumb:

[chip-3door]

:d

wasnt mapped poorly just strong up top
will be back soon


The map was absolutely awful, and up top wasnt the worst place either, the part throttle on boost ignition was.

Whatever happens with it, for gods sake dont go driving it on that map till its been checked and altered by someone who knows what they are doing, and that most certainly is NOT whoever told you that map is ok! It isnt!

The schoolboy errors in that map are bad enough that anyone who couldnt spot them really shouldnt be allowed near a car!

[chip-3door]

PS

Hope the rebuild all goes according to plan and you get good results this time after all the hard work :D

[Huffy]

wow just lookin back at your pics there thats one hell of a clean nova that i havent really been on here for a while mate just had a quick glance on the last pages are you rebuilding the engine now

[discoinferno]

wow just lookin back at your pics there thats one hell of a clean nova that i havent really been on here for a while mate just had a quick glance on the last pages are you rebuilding the engine now

yes engine has been rebuilt and we have uprated a few things from the last build!

also the car has had some work to improve it, new dash clocks, new fuel system, new servo and master cylinder new rear discs, new tailgate:d

[discoinferno]

thought i best update

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/IMG_0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/IMG_0054.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/IMG_0055.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/IMG_0056.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/IMG_0058.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/IMG_0059.jpg

and 5 litres of this stuff to run it in on, its has very high zinc content which protects the drivetrain when first run

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/IMG_0062.jpg

the engine has undergone a full rebuild only thing that remains from old engine is block and crank everything else is new its taken pete (engine builder) in total 70hrs in total to strip , inspect, clean, measure, bore, and re assemble it. it is built as a competition engine and the tolerances inside the engine are what you would expect from any high performance, race engine!

[Nick J]

Good to see you've got it back fella......I expect another update within the next few weeks showing it back in! ;)

[Adam]

Looks well mate

[Will F]

In your lounge??lol

Bet Taryn loves that.

[The Simps]

Makes me hard that.

[AlexW]

Makes me hard that.

Me too.

I love shiney/fresh engines.

[philip]

****ing top notch matey. best place for an engine...besides in the carlol


i had all my rods, pistons, valve train, cams etc in my kitchen cupboards before i built my xe up, then it lived on the stand in the conservatory...gud job i bought my mums house when come out my time couple years ago otherwise she'd of gone mentallol

any pics of the porting?

[discoinferno]

****ing top notch matey. best place for an engine...besides in the carlol


i had all my rods, pistons, valve train, cams etc in my kitchen cupboards before i built my xe up, then it lived on the stand in the conservatory...gud job i bought my mums house when come out my time couple years ago otherwise she'd of gone mentallol

any pics of the porting?

i will get some pictures for you

[discoinferno]

In your lounge??lol

Bet Taryn loves that.

she loves it :d

[discoinferno]

Good to see you've got it back fella......I expect another update within the next few weeks showing it back in! ;)

it'll be on the dyno before it goes in the car mate :)

[discoinferno]

just potching about this morning getting the bits ready for fitting some time this week!

painted the gear box

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2789.jpg

new release bearing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2792.jpg

new helix pressure plate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2793.jpg

then fitted a gsi servo and master cylinder

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2794.jpg

then cracked open the wax oil

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2795.jpg

fired it in to the chassis legs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2796.jpg

and bulkhead area

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2797.jpg

[Ben]

LMFAO at engine in the lounge, like my old house lol

[discoinferno]

LMFAO at engine in the lounge, like my old house lol

the scary thing is its probably the cleanest thing in the room lollollollollollollollollollollollollol

[Ben]

Just imagine the Dont put the coffee on it!

When i lived at home my mums friends used to say whats the car interior in the kitchen and door in the lounge, my mum used to called it the art novaeu movement!

[discoinferno]

Just imagine the Dont put the coffee on it!

When i lived at home my mums friends used to say whats the car interior in the kitchen and door in the lounge, my mum used to called it the art novaeu movement!

:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

[discoinferno]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2798.jpg
innovate lc-1 arrived :thumb:

[Ben]

Where you putting that on the bedside table lol

[discoinferno]

Where you putting that on the bedside table lol

lol lol lol maybe

[discoinferno]

also collected this from skoda a few days ago

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2799.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSCF2800.jpg

Egt sensor will aid mapping and allow the adaptive fuel mapping function to work with the emrald

[discoinferno]

seeing as im getting silly offers for parts its staying put **** am i giving things away!!!

so take one rebuilt C20let & F28

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00054-1.jpg

lower exhaust and removed shafts etc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00051.jpg

one engine crane

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00056-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00059-2.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00067-1.jpg

waxoil'd the chassis rails and painted a few more bits
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00068.jpg


engine is back in linkage and clutch cables connected, all running gear attached and bolted up, just need to weld some boss's in for wideband and egt and we are ready for round 2 :D

[Plug]

glad your going to keep it mate :thumb:

[discoinferno]

glad your going to keep it mate :thumb:

cheers

[scott.parker]

Nice golf.

[djbrowney]

good lad, keep cracking on lol

how much was the egt need one my self or maybe 4 if there not to expensive lol

[discoinferno]

164 pound for the sensor:d

[The Simps]

How come you wanted to sell up in the 1st place mate? Had a Rick moment?

[Will F]

He is filling in - until Rick gets another one to build/break/keep/break/sell as a while/keep/break

[The Simps]

He is filling in - until Rick gets another one to build/break/keep/break/sell as a while/keep/break

lol :thumb:

[MattBrown]

Just imagine the Dont put the coffee on it!

When i lived at home my mums friends used to say whats the car interior in the kitchen and door in the lounge, my mum used to called it the art novaeu movement!

Your mum is a hero:thumb: lol

[MattBrown]

This is an inspiration for me!

I will one day have a nova as nice as this!:)

Keep it, whats the point of getting rid?

Sell the wife/kids/cloths/shoes first lol lol lol

[discoinferno]

i want an evo but i will just have to park the evo on the drive and keep nova in the garage :D

[discoinferno]

He is filling in - until Rick gets another one to build/break/keep/break/sell as a while/keep/break

:eek: :eek: :eek: cheeky ****er:eek: :eek:

[Plug]

fancy an evo 4?

[discoinferno]

fancy an evo 4?

maybe:)

[discoinferno]

well finally got some decent stoppers on the nova these are ap racing cp5030-1 4 pot calipers as used on the formula 3000 cars, getting them to fit the cesaro wheel was not straight forward but got there in the end.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00080.jpg

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[scott.parker]

So these must be a dam sight better then the willwoods for you to sell them so quickly i guess.

And that looks like it was a **** to fit under 15's? what did you find you had to do to fit? and are you running bias box?

Scott

[Adam]

They look well behind the Cesaros!!!! :cool:

[discoinferno]

So these must be a dam sight better then the willwoods for you to sell them so quickly i guess.

And that looks like it was a **** to fit under 15's? what did you find you had to do to fit? and are you running bias box?

Scott

i was not impressed with the willwoods at all tbh they would stop me but in a blaze of smoke, maybe it was down to the pads but i had no confidence in them, the speeds the nova got up to and how quickly it did they just couldnt cope!

these how ever are the dogs bollocks, i ordered some new pads for them 125+vat :eek::eek::eek: but these should give me the confidence to try and find the limits of the car chassis:thumb:

[game1]

Glad you decided to keep going with the car and not break it like I did mine :thumb:

I wasn't that impressed with the wilwoods on my nova let either, tbh the v6 set-up on my corsa seems to work better :)

Anyway.... must be one of the best Nova's out there, keep up the good work, look forward to seeing it around next year.

[The Simps]

Tasty setup! Interesting hearing your thoughts on the willwoods.

[discoinferno]

Glad you decided to keep going with the car and not break it like I did mine :thumb:

I wasn't that impressed with the wilwoods on my nova let either, tbh the v6 set-up on my corsa seems to work better :)

Anyway.... must be one of the best Nova's out there, keep up the good work, look forward to seeing it around next year.

thankyou very much mate glad you think so highly of it!

[discoinferno]

Tasty setup! Interesting hearing your thoughts on the willwoods.

i wasnt impressed but there are hundreds of people very happy with the setup

[Adam]

What pads did you have fitted?

[discoinferno]

What pads did you have fitted?

they were willwood "smart pads" medium compound ideal for road and track use! or so i was told when ordering the kit from rallydesign

new pads are carbon metallic:cool: :cool:

[discoinferno]

any way have written anew base map for the nova just to get it started and able to drive so i can start mapping! this is safe and by no means perfect it is JUST to get me started!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/Untitled-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/Untitled3.jpg
note the mpa is for 2.00bar but i have left the boost control as set up at jdm to run 1.05bar so it wont actually reach 2.00 but i ve done the file so i can easily adjust in future

[Adam]

Who did that map???? You??

[discoinferno]

Who did that map???? You??

yes mate i did it over a cup of coffee and a bacon bap:)

i will mapping it also

[Adam]

Sweet :thumb:

[discoinferno]

Sweet :thumb:

as stated its far from ideal but it will get it started and able to drive so i can begin:)

once the nova is mapped i got my brothers vectra to map:thumb:

[davidfox280585]

sad to see this being broke for spares on vxon as i really liked this

[discoinferno]

sad to see this being broke for spares on vxon as i really liked this


its not being broken , and where is vxon?

[davidfox280585]

vxon.co.uk

[discoinferno]

vxon.co.uk

i didint advertise it for sale on vxon!

its not for sale any more:thumb:

[Plug]

glad your going to keep it mate :thumb:

all the money and time on it and not being able to give it the thrashing it needs

[discoinferno]

glad your going to keep it mate :thumb:

all the money and time on it and not being able to give it the thrashing it needs

:thumb: thankyou

[discoinferno]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_MOV00105.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view&current=MOV00105.flv)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00103-1.jpg

[krobinson]

It's Alive!!

[discoinferno]

It's Alive!!

indeed:thumb: over the moon mot monday :d

[Adam]

:cool:

[Plug]

Get on so will be out on track this year then :)

[discoinferno]

Get on so will be out on track this year then :)

all being well yes mate :)

[Nick J]

Excellent Gary! :)

[Graeme]

Where is the mapping up to now, was following this on Vauxsport?

[discoinferno]

Excellent Gary! :)

cheers nick

[discoinferno]

Where is the mapping up to now, was following this on Vauxsport?

its basemap so its a driveable map but not optimised this will be sorted once on the rollers

[chrisnovaturbo]

where you taking it to get mapped?

[discoinferno]

where you taking it to get mapped?

not sure yet will see how much i can do my self

[Plug]

pay some one unless you feel totally confident i would say,

Dont want to have to rebuild the engine again

[Count Vaux Alot]

Good job mate nice to see it's on its way!

[discoinferno]

had a go at the cold start pretty happy with it so far
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_MOV00106.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view&current=MOV00106.flv)
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[n-vaux]

Nice to see it up and running again! Good work :)

[discoinferno]

Nice to see it up and running again! Good work :)

cheers fella:d

[Adam]

How much of the mapping are you looking at doing yourself??
What ecu you using?

[Will F]

How much of the mapping are you looking at doing yourself??
What ecu you using?

Not alot if he has any sense! lol

Its on Emerald pal.

[discoinferno]

How much of the mapping are you looking at doing yourself??
What ecu you using?

will do enough so i can drive it around sensibly it wont get any high speed runs though! not yet anyways

its on emerald k3 the mapping software is not very use friendly for road mapping anyways so majority of it will be done on the rollers

[discoinferno]

nova is off to be mapped saturday wish me luck! hope this engine lasts longer than the last one

[chrisnovaturbo]

who is mapping for you mate?

[discoinferno]

who is mapping for you mate?

dave young - mech motorsport

[scott.parker]

nova is off to be mapped saturday wish me luck! hope this engine lasts longer than the last one

Ohh... How long wait list/time is there to get in to get it done? As im sure you know Will said to use these guys with mine.

Scott

[John]

Glad to see this is still in action!

[discoinferno]

Ohh... How long wait list/time is there to get in to get it done? As im sure you know Will said to use these guys with mine.

Scott

i rang him yesterday mate and he could fit me in saturday ( must of been a cancellation) usually its 1-2 weeks wait! all depends how busy he is, if you ring and cant get through he always rings back, 99% of the time he is mapping

[discoinferno]

Glad to see this is still in action!

cheers mate:thumb:

[Ben]

Just dont tell him you know Will as he will double the price and remove anything breakable from his workshop!

[discoinferno]

Just dont tell him you know Will as he will double the price and remove anything breakable from his workshop!

will wont be aloud near the rollers he is a walking disaster

[discoinferno]

will await the phone call monday or tuesday to go and collect the nova, i hear its running 25-26psi held though :)

[Plug]

good news mate

[discoinferno]

good news mate

cheers at last something is going right on the car :p

[Adam]

i hear its running 25-26psi held though :)
:cool::cool:

[discoinferno]

popped up to see the nova after work managed to catch dave hard at work just before he called it a day!

nova is currently 315bhp @ 12-13psi equates to around 265-270@ wheels

hopefully dave will finish up tomorrow and hopefully get boost up to 25ish :D:D

[Graeme]

315 Bhp :eek: with more to go, Well done, hope this one holds up for you mate

[discoinferno]

315 Bhp :eek: with more to go, Well done, hope this one holds up for you mate

i am uploading some pictures and a quick video the way the thing accelerates is awesome, its working dave and his rollers really hard trying to hold the rollers steady for a long period cuases the brake to smoke a little so he has to let it cool down

im very happy though the engine is singing and is on to produce some nice figures hopefully :thumb:

[discoinferno]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00109-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00108-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_MOV00110.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view&current=MOV00110.flv)

[corsakid]

awesome car and will produce awesome power when mapping is finished of tomorrow

[sparkie1401]

really nice car Disco

[discoinferno]

awesome car and will produce awesome power when mapping is finished of tomorrow

hopefully:thumb:

[discoinferno]

really nice car Disco
thanks:d:d:d:d

[Graeme]

Thats sounds fooking awesome, hope to see it on a trackday soon

[discoinferno]

Thats sounds fooking awesome, hope to see it on a trackday soon
cheers :d:d im hoping to get some track time in soon

[noknok]

Whooosh sounds bloody nice mate

[discoinferno]

Whooosh sounds bloody nice mate

thankyou im very happy with it so far engine is a belter:d

[Will F]

Good to see a proper engine being built properly - at least this should show those who doubted it in the first place!:)