My XE nova on throttle bodies (Project 275+bhp)

NA novas are like getting a blow job off the wife, 400 bhp let novas are like getting one from her younger sister

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Originally Posted by nova_stee

NA novas are like getting a blow job off the wife, 400 bhp let novas are like getting one from her younger sister

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Meaning that the LET is risky an expensive and will end in tears!

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Originally Posted by scott.parker

Meaning that the LET is risky an expensive and will end in tears!

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Lol
TBF though I be the there are modded turbo novas now then high power xe's lol

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Originally Posted by lee303

hmm, not really in my eyes
i would not want to be running it with the input shaft not fully engaged with the clutch plates, as the clutch splines will be designed to deliver that torque over the whole width of a clutch plate, so you may find it rounds the end off the shaft, or the clutch plate splines themselves could fail, which is probably the more likely as they are fairly soft in comparison to the input shaft
why do you need a twin plate? as like you say the torque rating is ‘overkill’ a single with a decent spring rate would be plenty imo, and have room in the box

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Single plate was not reccomended by AP's technical department, but a twin plate was.
The input shaft would only be short by 4mm or less, possibly only 2mm if Gareth removes more metal from the gearbox casing (merris style)
AP said it will be ok as each plate has to deal with 100ish ft/lbs of torque.
One of AP's hydraulic round face 54mm slave cylinder and thrust bearing will sort the operation of the clutch.

Steve

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Originally Posted by steveboyslim

Single plate was not reccomended by AP's technical department, but a twin plate was.
The input shaft would only be short by 4mm or less, possibly only 2mm if Gareth removes more metal from the gearbox casing (merris style)
AP said it will be ok as each plate has to deal with 100ish ft/lbs of torque.
One of AP's hydraulic round face 54mm slave cylinder and thrust bearing will sort the operation of the clutch.

Steve

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Cheers for the info steve.

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Originally Posted by steveboyslim

Single plate was not reccomended by AP's technical department, but a twin plate was.
The input shaft would only be short by 4mm or less, possibly only 2mm if Gareth removes more metal from the gearbox casing (merris style)
AP said it will be ok as each plate has to deal with 100ish ft/lbs of torque.
One of AP's hydraulic round face 54mm slave cylinder and thrust bearing will sort the operation of the clutch.

Steve

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fair enough, surprised a single wasn’t enough though, sound alike the splines would be all the way through the plates anyway at 2mm short

ha ha

if you send your gearbox down here, i will get merris to shave the 2mm off with his axe?

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Originally Posted by Paul

if you send your gearbox down here, i will get merris to shave the 2mm off with his axe?

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Haha cheers Paul but only if he uses a big axe

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Originally Posted by nova_stee

ha ha

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aimed at me?

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Originally Posted by lee303

aimed at me?

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TBF mate I think he means about steve saying merris style

No aimed at scott pal

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Well we decided to play nice tonight seeing as there was some sun. We made this alloy spacer to see if it would come out ok.
This was the end result.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC03843.jpg
Not bad really as we knocked it up quickly and came out better than expected
Cheers

I got the spacer trial fitted last night and it seems to be a winner all the holes line up correctly the sits nice and the spacer doesn’t protrude the casing either inside or outside of the box so you cant even tell its there. I did some proper measuring as well seeing as I treated myself to a new vernier (B&Q tape measures aint all they used to be), I found that the input shaft does slide all the way through the collar of the rear clutch plate but only just. and I have a clearance of 0.9mm from the box to the clutch face im going to clean the box face back with the power file a touch more just to get at least 1mm's clearance.
And it leaves 45mm to fit the hydraulic bearing in place just got to do the PCD of the F20's turret mounts to see which bearing is the correct fit.
Cheers Gareth.

Lucky sod! though i would want least 2mm clearance, just encase there was for some reason any movement/wobble, not that there should, just i wouldn't want something to move slightly and it end in tears etc..

I know you mean Scott I can probs get that much with a skim off the box lol

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Originally Posted by scott.parker

Lucky sod! though i would want least 2mm clearance, just encase there was for some reason any movement/wobble, not that there should, just i wouldn't want something to move slightly and it end in tears etc..

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If the thrust bearings wear you can get a little movement, not quite 2mm as your bores and bearings would all be mega ****ed, but you do get some lol

Hello mate,

Sorry didnt reply to your pm, just been flat out at work!! Just caught up on your build.... I run a quarter master twin plate clutch and an SBD flywheel! It fit in with no issues first time, admitedly there was a very slight mark on the gearbox but later found a head of a 10mm bolt from a gaurd/cover had been rattling round in there! I have a spare ap 7.25" at home for a RS and that fowls the bolts that hold it to the flywheel! Bad times! Glad to see you got it sorted though! not far off by the look of things!

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Originally Posted by Mincyballs

Hello mate,

Sorry didnt reply to your pm, just been flat out at work!! Just caught up on your build.... I run a quarter master twin plate clutch and an SBD flywheel! It fit in with no issues first time, admitedly there was a very slight mark on the gearbox but later found a head of a 10mm bolt from a gaurd/cover had been rattling round in there! I have a spare ap 7.25" at home for a RS and that fowls the bolts that hold it to the flywheel! Bad times! Glad to see you got it sorted though! not far off by the look of things!

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No bother mate. I'm just waiting for the bearing to appear its all good hopefully it will be running and mot'd ready for march. As I'm coming for you at the fast show :p:thumb:

Sweet, hopefully see you there then mate! im saving pennies to get the new bits i want.... going for some internal changes rods pistons and cams so should be ready rougly the same time.

Keep up the posting mate!

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Originally Posted by Mincyballs

Sweet, hopefully see you there then mate! im saving pennies to get the new bits i want.... going for some internal changes rods pistons and cams so should be ready rougly the same time.

Keep up the posting mate!

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Nice one mate should be a good laugh get updatin your thread aswell lol

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Originally Posted by Mincyballs

Sweet, hopefully see you there then mate! im saving pennies to get the new bits i want.... going for some internal changes rods pistons and cams so should be ready rougly the same time.

Keep up the posting mate!

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Nice one mate should be a good laugh get updatin your thread aswell lol

Any updates mate got your gearbag fitted ok in the end?

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Originally Posted by nova_mike

Any updates mate got your gearbag fitted ok in the end?

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Hi mike yeah the gearbox fits fine now mate just waiting for the AP bearing to arrive (it's on back order). As soon as that arrives its full steam ahead mate maybe another 2 Wk ends work then my mate is going freshen the painteork p on the outside.
Cheers Gareth

Hi all thought it was about time that this had an update.

Got the remote oil filter mounted a while ago.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC04006.jpg
Easy filter change aswell.
I also started with fitting the hydraulic bearing from AP. fresh out the box
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...aringfront.jpg

We trial fitted it in the box but it was catching the casing so I have to file some of the casting away
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC03999.jpg
Also cause the bearing is for a saab box fitment we could only get one of the holes lined up, so we made a plate from 1.6mm alloy plate.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC04000.jpg
Fitted in the box
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC04002.jpg
we found the easiest way to fit the two items together first then to fix it to the box, the only real issue that i came across was on one of the bolt holes i could only fit an M5 bolt not M6 :(
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC04003.jpg
We refitted the box and found we have a success. the bearing sits away freely and the clutch doesnt catch
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC04010.jpg

http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC04012.jpg

I just need to remove the box and tidy the area i have filed down, also make a slight channel cause the bolts that hold the clutch on are close to the casing.
Also get a input shaft seal to suit and it offically hyraulic clutch.

I managed to get my dash down to prey last week aswell so should be back in the new year covered in flock.
also ordered some fibreglass doors to pick up soon :)
and the pilbeam tie bar kit should be ready after xmas then its all go go go.
Thanks for looking. Gareth

Where you getting the Pilbeam tie bat kit from?

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Originally Posted by MARTIN KELSON

Where you getting the Pilbeam tie bat kit from?

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Jonelm and his friend make them mate

Aah same ones iam waiting on then :)

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Originally Posted by MARTIN KELSON

Aah same ones iam waiting on then :)

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I guess so mate I keep i regular contact with him wont be long now

Immense

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Originally Posted by BRoadGhost

Immense

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cheers mate im glad you like it :thumb: i just cant wait till its done

Sorry for the delays on the kits guys, I'm seeing him boxing day and with any luck the parts for the kits are being done over the Christmas holiday.

I'll be in touch with you both shortly but have a good Christmas :)

Good update btw Gareth, keep at it

No bother mate and thanks for the comment

Hi there nice nova mate were u get the head done if you don't mind my asking

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Originally Posted by mcgee.m

Hi there nice nova mate were u get the head done if you don't mind my asking

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I bout it indirectly from Neil roper.
Cheers

absolute stunner Gareth. even better in the flesh

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Originally Posted by Jedro

absolute stunner Gareth. even better in the flesh

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Cheers mate the sooner it's the better

i seen this car a couple of weeks back the amount of work (and money) thats gone into it is insane, pic's don't do it justice mate,

Cheers gaz