Chris' Nova C20let

[chrisnovaturbo]

lol

[-JELLY-]

just orderd my new fuel system,

alloy tank for the boot
surge tank
fuel hose
bosch 044 pump
fuel pump brackets
fitting kits for the the pump
p-clips for the fuel hose
siemens 660cc injectors (will run them @ 4bar so they will flow 740cc)

steveboyslim is going to finish my head off for me with the following spec,

piper solid lifters and shims
piper dubble valve springs
piper vernier pulleys
piper custom cams
new stem seals to suit

:cool:

wot tank did you get after mate? gota sort my fueling out now and puzzeld at all tanks availible? will u need a vauxhall sender to have fuel gauge working? get some pics up :thumb:

[chrisnovaturbo]

got a tank off ebay realy smart. only 27ltr tho so wont be doing long trips in it lol. its got a fuel sender in the tank. will load up the pics tomorrow.

[chrisnovaturbo]

well ive had a few bits turn up over the last couple of weeks,

tial 44mm wastgate,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova006-32.jpg

bits for my fuel system,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova007-36.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova008-31.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova009-31.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova002-32.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova003-37.jpg

new 3" top hat,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova004-34.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova005-36.jpg

[chrisnovaturbo]

got some new gsi stickers,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova010-29.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova011-21.jpg

[djbrowney]

nice to see a proper build buddy

link me up with the tank lol ???

[chrisnovaturbo]

got the o/s turret in there today,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova007-37.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova008-32.jpg

then got the rear back on its wheels,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova010-30.jpg

nice and high to keep the weight over the front,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova011-22.jpg

got some harryhockly ball joints,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova006-33.jpg

started to make up rose jointed tca's, well got the brakets made up,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova009-32.jpg

will have the tca's finished tomorrow so i can get the front down on the floor.

:cool:

[-JELLY-]

wot pump will you be using from tank to swirl pot chris? :confused:

[chrisnovaturbo]

wot pump will you be using from tank to swirl pot chris? :confused:

walbro for the lift pump and 044 main 1 to the engine.

plenty of fuel for what i need :thumb:

[Novaboi_1991]

Cars lookin sweet matey :). you have a pm too

[chrisnovaturbo]

got the tca's finished off,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova003-38.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova004-35.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova008-33.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova009-33.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova010-31.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova012-21.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova013-18.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova014-18.jpg

[chrisnovaturbo]

put a bit of my old nova in the car,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova006-34.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova007-38.jpg


my new welder. it is so nice to weld with,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova005-37.jpg

got the car back on its wheels at last,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova016-21.jpg

the back is just how i wanted it :d

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova017-19.jpg

need to sort the caster out at some point,
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova019-14.jpg

:thumb:

[djbrowney]

cracking progress mate

[*Adz*]

lovly jubly chris! cracking on well :)

[discoinferno]

great progress mate, nice tca's :)

[lukehamlyn]

nice work mate...:)

[chrisnovaturbo]

cheers. i mite start making them as a kit in, but i would make the front mounts so they bolt on, (not welded on like mine)

[Rick Draper]

Looks good but PM Spanishfly as he had problems when running tca's with a rose joint at either end and had to change the design.

[djbrowney]

Looks good but PM Spanishfly as he had problems when running tca's with a rose joint at either end and had to change the design.

his problem was the cross memeber coming away, i bit of cardboard was just about as strong lol

[Rick Draper]

his problem was the cross memeber coming away, i bit of cardboard was just about as strong lol

It was also down to using 2 rose joints at each end of the tie bar iirc. James will advise further as he made up the new ones. Lee even modded the ones on his car.

[chrisnovaturbo]

mine are not finished yet as there to long and ive used right hand thread rose joints on both ends :tard: so i cant ajust it on the car. need to go rally resign and get x2 left hand thread rose joints fit them and job done. (i hope lol )

[Benn]

How come your running the rear so high?

Very nice welding.

[chrisnovaturbo]

im getting ready for usc show and want to run it up the pod. im hoping to get it done intime.

[chrisnovaturbo]

i went to brands hatch today to watch the time attack cars. i was look at all of there suspension set up's and there was a honnda civic running tca's the same as mine with rose joints at both end and he said they work really well. so im going to take a leaf out of his book and keep mine as it is, just need to sort the caster out.

[chrisnovaturbo]

some people mite not like me for doing this but it was the only way i could get the dash out,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova006-35.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova005-38.jpg

fixed the fues box up,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova007-39.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova009-34.jpg

bit of weight saving,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova010-32.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova011-24.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova012-22.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova013-19.jpg

[chrisnovaturbo]

then wanted to go for putting the rad in the boot using a evo 8 rad,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova015-19.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova016-22.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova017-20.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova018-15.jpg

put my fibreglass boot on,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova021-12.jpg

got a fibregass spoiler,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova014-19.jpg

got a fibregall bonnit and put my aro catchs on,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova024-11.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova025-11.jpg

[Iain]

You could have removed the windscreen and pulled the dash up and out, or at least cut it on the passenger side so it'll be useful as a half dash for a track car :( Oh well.

How do you get good air flow to the rad in the boot?

[*Adz*]

lol @ the dash.. dont surpose you have a fuse tray holder there, and a glove box, and ash tray bit.. as luke dont have them bits his gsi dash mate.

[chrisnovaturbo]

You could have removed the windscreen and pulled the dash up and out, or at least cut it on the passenger side so it'll be useful as a half dash for a track car :( Oh well.

How do you get good air flow to the rad in the boot?

i fault that after that i should of cut the passenger side. :roll:

im going to take air from the floor. you will see soon when i do more to it

[MattBrown]

lol @ the dash.. dont surpose you have a fuse tray holder there, and a glove box, and ash tray bit.. as luke dont have them bits his gsi dash mate.

lol

Also, how come you have stripped a running car?

When you had a stripped down nova turbo project?

Was the other shell gone?

[chrisnovaturbo]

lol

Also, how come you have stripped a running car?

When you had a stripped down nova turbo project?

Was the other shell gone?

the other shell i cut to much out off and was trying to make it something it was never going to be.

im putting all my good bits on this one now

[MattBrown]

the other shell i cut to much out off and was trying to make it something it was never going to be.

im putting all my good bits on this one now

Making a minter out of the 2:thumb:

[discoinferno]

should be interesting when complete keep it up mate :) id recommend a helper pump inline to aid flow as you'll have some long as pipes :)

my friends ka had a davies craig 80l/m inline to aid flow with his boot in the back end

[chrisnovaturbo]

i will just take the thermostat out and it will be fine lol

[Rick Draper]

Making a minter out of the 2:thumb:

More like making a average car from 2 nice ones.

Chris why did you bother starting again? You seem to be in exactly the same position now as you were with the blue one?

Why not finish the rear turrets before starting other jobs? TBH you seem to get bored of one thing so start another.

How will you feed the rad with water and air? When boot mounted rad are implemented well they are spot on, when bodged in place they are not good. What advice and knowledge have you sought on the matter? Are you aiming to add a further impeller mid way along the rad tract to keep the water flow constant?

[chrisnovaturbo]

More like making a average car from 2 nice ones.

Chris why did you bother starting again? You seem to be in exactly the same position now as you were with the blue one?

Why not finish the rear turrets before starting other jobs? TBH you seem to get bored of one thing so start another.

How will you feed the rad with water and air? When boot mounted rad are implemented well they are spot on, when bodged in place they are not good. What advice and knowledge have you sought on the matter? Are you aiming to add a further impeller mid way along the rad tract to keep the water flow constant?

not realy cos when i get the head back the engine will run again. i can build my car how i want. if i want to do half a job then go back to it after i do something else then i will. its going to get done in the end. as for the rad it ant just bodged in place !

dont bother writing on my thread again :tosser:

[Rick Draper]

not realy cos when i get the head back the engine will run again. i can build my car how i want. if i want to do half a job then go back to it after i do something else then i will. its going to get done in the end. as for the rad it ant just bodged in place !

dont bother writing on my thread again :tosser:

Funny really that a number of other members of this site text me the same as i have just written but not bothered to post it really isnt it! :cry: :cry:

Step back 20 pages really and its the same **** just with a different car colour. Chances of another mot for this one are slimmer than Jade Goody on the aitkins diet :nobhead:

PS this is the "internet" if you dont like other peoples opinion then dont put a thread up....

[djbrowney]

Get of the stella rick ffs !!!

[Kev Turbo]

I do agree with rick,
There seems to be an awful lot of spec, car, parts changes going on here and not a lot of progress really.

I shudder to think of the money that has been sunk into this project.

Rick usually has valid points but its the tone and manner that they are put over that usually gets peoples back up and he has done a fair bit of the above himself in the past if we are fair.

Its an open forum to discuss and put points up as people see fit though.

Quite frankly i enjoy watching these threads so keep up the work.

Heres to many more pages of madness in the projects forum !!! :)

[Will F]

I do agree with rick,
There seems to be an awful lot of spec, car, parts changes going on here and not a lot of progress really.

I shudder to think of the money that has been sunk into this project.

Rick usually has valid points but its the tone and manner that they are put over that usually gets peoples back up and he has done a fair bit of the above himself in the past if we are fair.

Its an open forum to discuss and put points up as people see fit though.

Quite frankly i enjoy watching these threads so keep up the work.

Heres to many more pages of madness in the projects forum !!! :)

I know what you mean - but Rick has to be the biggest hypocrite in the world - remember how long it took to build his nova?? All the threads around him breaking/seeling up/buying a helecopter instead etc etc....

And it was on the road for 20 mins and then he broke it...

Hardly an ideal position to be in to start slating someone!? lol

[MattBrown]

not realy cos when i get the head back the engine will run again. i can build my car how i want. if i want to do half a job then go back to it after i do something else then i will. its going to get done in the end. as for the rad it ant just bodged in place !

dont bother writing on my thread again :tosser:

The only thing I can see that you have wasted is a shell?

As all the bits where taken off the other one.

Rick, I see your point, thats what I was getting at, but not entirely.

Its my choice to go and spend "X" on model car racing, or motox or horse riding if I so choose to.

And to me, while he is trapped in his unit, he is only learning, and will in future come out knowing the do's and do nots of building etc.

Like someone restoring a rottern nova (me) It will cost me alot more than its worth, and it will take alot longer than buying one, but im doing it as I want to:thumb:

[chrisnovaturbo]

Funny really that a number of other members of this site text me the same as i have just written but not bothered to post it really isnt it! :cry: :cry:

Step back 20 pages really and its the same **** just with a different car colour. Chances of another mot for this one are slimmer than Jade Goody on the aitkins diet :nobhead:

PS this is the "internet" if you dont like other peoples opinion then dont put a thread up....

come on then tell me why it wont go through a mot then !

i dont mind peoples opinion its just you pick at everythink i do or dont do.

[MattBrown]

come on then tell me why it wont go through a mot then !

i dont mind peoples opinion its just you pick at everythink i do or dont do.

Aww, your getting used to the png picking on stuff mob:thumb: lol

[Rick Draper]

come on then tell me why it wont go through a mot then !

i dont mind peoples opinion its just you pick at everythink i do or dont do.

Well going off the last one that made your unit and never saw another MOT centre so this one will end up with the same fate. Mid build capitulation ending in epic fail :roll: :roll: :roll:

[chrisnovaturbo]

ok were see.

[-JELLY-]

see you at pod chris.. get it done :thumb:

[chrisnovaturbo]

see you at pod chris.. get it done :thumb:

ive got a month, its pushing it but i will give it ago lol
my mate is using the trailer to take his evo up there so im going to have to hire van and trailer to get the nova there. soon as i get these cars sold ive got it will help the funds :thumb:

[MattBrown]

ive got a month, its pushing it but i will give it ago lol
my mate is using the trailer to take his evo up there so im going to have to hire van and trailer to get the nova there. soon as i get these cars sold ive got it will help the funds :thumb:

Just drive it there?

[chrisnovaturbo]

that means insurance, tax and moting it lol cheaper to get van and trailer for the weekend

[chrisnovaturbo]

made a breather pipe up today,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova003-39.jpg

then i put the front end on to see what the pannel gaps were like with fg bonnit and ant to bad,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova004-36.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova005-39.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova006-36.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova007-40.jpg

just waiting on bits to turn up then i will start cracking on again with it :thumb:

[Jonlem]

Woah, some serious responses on here !

Tanks in the boot are cool but fook me fit a proper filler to it so you dont have to fill it in car, stinks the car out no end.

As for the radiator I would be doing some research, not digging but I have spoken to people who actually use that setup and it is not that straight forward, using a electric pump as Rick said is the obvious bit, keeping it cool enough is difficult when driving let alone when your not and once the engine is too hot its game over, no second chances.

As for the bottom arms I think you will find there will be a issue there, feel free to prove me wrong but I have just looked for the Civic setup and what I have found is nothing like a Vauxhall setup so it will not suffer from the same issue.

This has been discussed before many times, my set off Lee did not work, the car steered itself everywhere, I am just working out if mounting the joint in that position would get over it but I cannot see how it would.

Basically as the tie rod is jointed at both ends it will allow the wheel to move not only from the track rod end but now the tca which obviously you cannot control. Usually cars will run one joint and then they run a nylon bush on the other end, my setup only runs one joint so it is not adjustable in situ, neither is the Pilbeam ones though as you will never adjust it once its had the geometry done.

Don't get me wrong it took me some working out to see where there was a issue with Lee's, I couldn't see why it was a issue but clearly the new arms worked and Lee changed his design which I am sure he wouldn't of if he felt there was no need.

As for Rick, jeez man, yeh ok this car is going on a bit BUT so is my own car, I'm happy to admit to that, 4 years, not much progress and a fair bit spent and I guess before I take the pi55 your car did see "some" use but lets face it was the biggest let down of the decade, infact look up Epic Fail and I wouldn't be suprised to see a picture of your car !

[djbrowney]

lol

[Jonlem]

Where is my phone call you bender ?

[djbrowney]

will ring tomorrow cupcake :)

[Jonlem]

Wake up call will suit me nicely :) x

[Paul]

I assumed he was dead, I hadnt heard from him in so long

[djbrowney]

im a busy man lol

[Jonlem]

Wan king yourself off whilst poking a carrot up your ar5e does not count as being busy browney

[The Simps]

Wan king yourself off whilst poking a carrot up your ar5e does not count as being busy browney

He's moved on from carrots. Now he uses several onions all stringed together...

[Jonlem]

Any old veg will do he told me and lets face it where he is from there is plenty of that !

[chrisnovaturbo]

Woah, some serious responses on here !

Tanks in the boot are cool but fook me fit a proper filler to it so you dont have to fill it in car, stinks the car out no end.

As for the radiator I would be doing some research, not digging but I have spoken to people who actually use that setup and it is not that straight forward, using a electric pump as Rick said is the obvious bit, keeping it cool enough is difficult when driving let alone when your not and once the engine is too hot its game over, no second chances.

As for the bottom arms I think you will find there will be a issue there, feel free to prove me wrong but I have just looked for the Civic setup and what I have found is nothing like a Vauxhall setup so it will not suffer from the same issue.

This has been discussed before many times, my set off Lee did not work, the car steered itself everywhere, I am just working out if mounting the joint in that position would get over it but I cannot see how it would.

Basically as the tie rod is jointed at both ends it will allow the wheel to move not only from the track rod end but now the tca which obviously you cannot control. Usually cars will run one joint and then they run a nylon bush on the other end, my setup only runs one joint so it is not adjustable in situ, neither is the Pilbeam ones though as you will never adjust it once its had the geometry done.

Don't get me wrong it took me some working out to see where there was a issue with Lee's, I couldn't see why it was a issue but clearly the new arms worked and Lee changed his design which I am sure he wouldn't of if he felt there was no need.

As for Rick, jeez man, yeh ok this car is going on a bit BUT so is my own car, I'm happy to admit to that, 4 years, not much progress and a fair bit spent and I guess before I take the pi55 your car did see "some" use but lets face it was the biggest let down of the decade, infact look up Epic Fail and I wouldn't be suprised to see a picture of your car !

im going to make a filler neck up to the window as i will have to lean over the rad and dont want the car smelling of fuel.

as for the rad its going to be a case of testing different things till i get right without cooking it :roll:

the tca will be tested then go from there. if i have to change to a solid mount then it wont be hard for me to change.:thumb:

[let_nova]

good work, keep it up!

[Jonlem]

Here is a copy of the WRC Escort arms

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr197/andrewfgallacher/25062010064.jpg

I can only wonder why they dont use 2 rose joints ;)

[Rick Draper]

Here is a copy of the WRC Escort arms

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr197/andrewfgallacher/25062010064.jpg

I can only wonder why they dont use 2 rose joints ;)

Cause its not a nova and of a lesser spec:confused:

[The Simps]

The more I look at it the more the excort setup makes sense. With the 2 RJs its just so much strain on them. The above holds it in the plain you want. Or am I just waaaaay off base? lol

[MK999]

Because an RJ on the outer arm would stress under braking and snap?

[djbrowney]

i hope not thats what im running on mine :)

[MK999]

i hope not thats what im running on mine :)

It's a number 1 suspension design no no, I hope it's a huge one lol There are ways round it but ideally you want a staked in rosejoint working in the other plane.

[djbrowney]

so my uni balls a ****ing useless then ????

somehow i think we have crossed wires hear !

[MK999]

Any 'normal size' RJ on the outer side of a suspension arm goes under a massive enough amount of stress to snap them.

Edit: Just had a look at uni balls, they're not rose joints but staked in bearings.

[chrisnovaturbo]

snap a rose joint? most race cars and rally cars have rose joints and i dont here of them snaping. maybe if i crash it they mite brake :confused:

[Jonlem]

Depends if you use the right one for that application, they are dozens of different types.

The pic is a set made for a Fiesta JWRC Cosworth, they are very similar to the Escort WRC ones but its all I could find a picture of to show you what I meant.

[chrisnovaturbo]

got them from rally design and there the same ones that my mate used on mk3 s1 escort cossie and there is alot more weight and force from that then my little nova lol.

as for the cossie fiesta setup it will work different to nova setup wont it ?

[Jonlem]

I use joints from RD as well.

Whats different on the Fiesta to a nova setup ?

[chrisnovaturbo]

I use joints from RD as well.

Whats different on the Fiesta to a nova setup ?

well ant a fiesta no more so say cosworth setup, works different to a nova. ford goes from arm to the floor and nova goes from arm to front pannel. lower arm is in different place so will work different

[tony k]

remember that nova on pistonheads,gotta say your making a good improvement to it,your rear turrets did you make them or buy them,keep it up mate looking sweet

[chrisnovaturbo]

remember that nova on pistonheads,gotta say your making a good improvement to it,your rear turrets did you make them or buy them,keep it up mate looking sweet

thanks. i got the rear turrets from rally design and trimed them up to fit.

[Jonlem]

well ant a fiesta no more so say cosworth setup, works different to a nova. ford goes from arm to the floor and nova goes from arm to front pannel. lower arm is in different place so will work different

Have you looked at the picture, tell me what is different about that to what a Nova uses, besides the fact its a custom arm which ofcourse makes no difference as your technically making the same thing but with 2 joints. It picks up off the subframe ( which may as well be the chassis ) and joins to the front crossmember exactly like a nova or corsa does.

I looked at my mates dragster today and that is identical to the Pic I posted.

[chrisnovaturbo]

ive just had my old boss pop down today who builds race cars for a living and he said that what ive done will work fine. he said the only thing that it will do is it will make the suspention move more freely, so im going to make a new arb up for it. :thumb:

[MK999]

I've just had a look at it, you're permitting twist in the wishbone so it's going to flap around axially causing the track/camber/toe to change a lot. Slapping a thick arb on it isn't going to sort the source of the problem.

[chrisnovaturbo]

I've just had a look at it, you're permitting twist in the wishbone so it's going to flap around axially causing the track/camber/toe to change a lot. Slapping a thick arb on it isn't going to sort the source of the problem.

how is it going to twist? :confused:

[chrisnovaturbo]

i picked up my head off steve last night. ive now got everything to build the engine up :d

will post up pics later of all my new bits.

[MK999]

how is it going to twist? :confused:

Only just noticed this, where the escort setup uses a bracket (which removes one of the degrees of freedom) to hold it in the plane of movement, you're fitting a rosejoint (which leaves the joint free to rotate in all 3 axis) which allows the wishbone to twist.

[chrisnovaturbo]

Only just noticed this, where the escort setup uses a bracket (which removes one of the degrees of freedom) to hold it in the plane of movement, you're fitting a rosejoint (which leaves the joint free to rotate in all 3 axis) which allows the wishbone to twist.

dont forget im using a poly bush in the lower arm. if i used a rj there it would twist and move. ive just put a big pair of grips on the lower arm to try and twist it and there is a tiny amount of movment in the bush if hang off it.

[MK999]

dont forget im using a poly bush in the lower arm. if i used a rj there it would twist and move. ive just put a big pair of grips on the lower arm to try and twist it and there is a tiny amount of movment in the bush if hang off it.

The forces in a wishbone are a crap load bigger than you swinging on a pair of mole grips...

[chrisnovaturbo]

The forces in a wishbone are a crap load bigger than you swinging on a pair of mole grips...

i no there will be more force when driving to how i tested it.

so how do you think the car is going to drive how ive set it up?

[discoinferno]

good project

[Jonlem]

dont forget im using a poly bush in the lower arm. if i used a rj there it would twist and move. ive just put a big pair of grips on the lower arm to try and twist it and there is a tiny amount of movment in the bush if hang off it.

Thats all I originally had on the one I did and it was bad enough, yes with a rose jointed tca it would be even worse.

Nail on head though, basically the tca will move on another axis which causes it to self steer.

Myself, Lee and Spanish did not change the setups we had for no reason, it doesn't work and when locked in place at one end it does, quite simple.

Glad to see things are still progressing.

[chrisnovaturbo]

im breaking the car now and putting the engine in a corsa c lol no more rust lol

[Jonlem]

Your joking right ?

[djbrowney]

im breaking the car now and putting the engine in a corsa c lol no more rust lol

funny that i though exactly the same the other day lol

[discoinferno]

Are you serious????

[Paul]

Are you serious????

by the look of his FS thread, yes :eek:

[chrisnovaturbo]

yep ive put a forsale thread up of the bits i dont need. ive got a corsa c witch ive had for year or so now. corsa will handle much better and i will feel more safer. it will be gutted out caged, stitch welded, 2 bucket seats and my c20let engine and away i go.

if i do get another nova will be a standard sr, sri, gte, gsi. and keep it how it should be.

[MattBrown]

lol

You have let Rick Draper win:(

[dj_wudgey]

noo this is a right car this!!! but i like the other plans for a standard nova lol

[chrisnovaturbo]

lol

You have let Rick Draper win:(

yep. it wont have a mot from me, he was right lol

the corsa has a years mot lol.

[Benn]

Dont blame you, i fancy a Corsa C with a Zlet...

[discoinferno]

Dont blame you, i fancy a Corsa C with a Zlet...

corsa c with zleh and m32 is where its at

[MattBrown]

yep. it wont have a mot from me, he was right lol

the corsa has a years mot lol.


Sounds good.

Sell the c20let, and buy a z20leh.

Then go m32, or f23 box

[dj_wudgey]

shame its going to get broke though!!!

[discoinferno]

leh is the way forward in a c imo

[Benn]

corsa c with zleh and m32 is where its at

Over priced at the mo tho... You can get a Zlet of a breaker on Mig for around £1400.

[discoinferno]

i wouldnt call 1600 -2k over priced for an leh with m32 with turbo etc from a 19k mile car try finding an let with 19k miles on

[Benn]

Never seen them that cheap... I know the Zlet almost bolts in, does the Leh?

[chrisnovaturbo]

corsa c with zleh and m32 is where its at

im going to use my c20let engine and m32 gearbox with atb diff :thumb:

everyone puts the zlet or zleh in them.

[chrisnovaturbo]

Never seen them that cheap... I know the Zlet almost bolts in, does the Leh?

yes mate it does.

[Benn]

Ah cool, stop it!

[MattBrown]

yes mate it does.


Not strictly true.

I personally, would run the leh, on zlet management. Leh management is a total minefield.

Cambus is something I don't like the look of.

A+m near me can get a leh, on leh management going.

He has designed a box of tricks that fixes all te wiring etc.

[steveboyslim]

Chris,

You are going to need to get your wedge out again, I have just restocked with Quaife ATB diffs and I have the M32 diff and bearings.

Steve

[chrisnovaturbo]

Chris,

You are going to need to get your wedge out again, I have just restocked with Quaife ATB diffs and I have the M32 diff and bearings.

Steve

i need a m32 box first then will give you a call.

[MattBrown]

i need a m32 box first then will give you a call.


So your going c20let, with an m32?

What clutch/flywheel Is used?

[djbrowney]

it shouldnt matter im hoping he going to be on a 7 1/4 set up !!!

[chrisnovaturbo]

it shouldnt matter im hoping he going to be on a 7 1/4 set up !!!

yeah twin plate clutch all the way.

[steveboyslim]

So your going c20let, with an m32?

What clutch/flywheel Is used?

There is a hybrid flywheel available, for the standard type clutch.

Steve

[Stuart]

Not strictly true.

I personally, would run the leh, on zlet management. Leh management is a total minefield.

Cambus is something I don't like the look of.

A+m near me can get a leh, on leh management going.

He has designed a box of tricks that fixes all te wiring etc.

1. its CAN, 2 its CAN not CANBUS :p

[Sloth]

/\ just about to say that....


leh management has one place. the bin. c20let into c is ok, you need to use a specific mount and tensioner setup. i'll post the full details up later....
be aware the leh has weaker pistons than a zlet, yet it has the oil spray bars and a few other tweaked bits. also courtenay or regal are doing a good looking inlet for these now, saves on alot of dpace at the back, which in a c is at a premium.

[MattBrown]

1. its CAN, 2 its CAN not CANBUS :p

That is correct lol

Was tired.com

However, this fella seems shat hot on zlet, and leh managemnet:thumb:

[Sloth]

so what does he do about the c locks and radio on zleh's then?

[MattBrown]

so what does he do about the c locks and radio on zleh's then?

This is the bit he says he has worked how to get around.

And, radio? How do so many people put aftermarket headunits in?

I did get told the radio and clocks where needed, but im not surelol

[Stuart]

Depends on the manufacturer and how they set things up in the factory.

But it seems GM use a semi unsecure CAN system if someone can make a unit to replicate things enough to let the engine run. Ford have all kinds of security layers that are a pig to get through unless you have the right codes/software etc (although its not impossible to do if you have some inside knowledge lol)

[MattBrown]

Depends on the manufacturer and how they set things up in the factory.

But it seems GM use a semi unsecure CAN system if someone can make a unit to replicate things enough to let the engine run. Ford have all kinds of security layers that are a pig to get through unless you have the right codes/software etc (although its not impossible to do if you have some inside knowledge lol)

This must be what he meant.

Is it not possible, to transfer the atra clocks, and steering lock/key transponder into it?

[Sloth]

yes it is, but you then end up fitting basically the full astra loom......

i was told its infinitely cheaper and easier to either:

A, fit the leh using let management

or

B, fit oil squirters to the zlet and have done.

[chrisnovaturbo]

/\ just about to say that....


leh management has one place. the bin. c20let into c is ok, you need to use a specific mount and tensioner setup. i'll post the full details up later....
be aware the leh has weaker pistons than a zlet, yet it has the oil spray bars and a few other tweaked bits. also courtenay or regal are doing a good looking inlet for these now, saves on alot of dpace at the back, which in a c is at a premium.

yep i would put the leh and zlet management in the bin and use my omex if i was going to use the leh or zlet. as im fitting my c20let in the corsa im using a x20xev mount with the c20let late style cambelt kit, then just use the water pump to tension the the belt up. i fitted a red top in my mates astra mk4 and it works fine in that. :thumb:

[chrisnovaturbo]

im also fitting a phase 3.5 z20let and f23 in a corsa c next week so i will let you no what the zlet wiring into corsa c is like :roll:

[Sloth]

chris i know what the wiring is like ;) if it was me i'd run your c-let on omex in the c aswell. faaaaaaaaar easier...

[chrisnovaturbo]

chris i know what the wiring is like ;) if it was me i'd run your c-let on omex in the c aswell. faaaaaaaaar easier...

what is the wiring like on the zlet never done one yet. and yes im using my omex on the c20let its not just easyer but its a much better ecu then standard.

[Sloth]

wiring is ok, just time consuming, you need the pin outs of the astra engine ecu and the corsa engine ecu. the only wires that dont match are the CAN wires, as they have different colours, there is basically a CAN high and a CAN low. or if the corsa is a 1.2 you can flash the astra zlet map onto the std 1.2 ecu and just plug and play. iirc there is a guy on corsa-c that does this.

[chrisnovaturbo]

its a 1.8 sri im doing it in.

[MattBrown]

wiring is ok, just time consuming, you need the pin outs of the astra engine ecu and the corsa engine ecu. the only wires that dont match are the CAN wires, as they have different colours, there is basically a CAN high and a CAN low. or if the corsa is a 1.2 you can flash the astra zlet map onto the std 1.2 ecu and just plug and play. iirc there is a guy on corsa-c that does this.

Or, its been done, chop the wiring out of the C loom, and run the clocks form the 1.2 ecu.

Then run the c20let loom, and etc, only 5ish wires then:thumb:

[Sloth]

your in for alot of work chris. matt, that will bring on nearly every warning light possible, trust me ive seen it done. i did toy with using a corsa b loom and extending parts of it to fit, and binning the CAN ****.

[MattBrown]

your in for alot of work chris. matt, that will bring on nearly every warning light possible, trust me ive seen it done. i did toy with using a corsa b loom and extending parts of it to fit, and binning the CAN ****.


Thats how the fella did the corsa C van in last months tv.

And his is done with all lights etc:thumb:

[chrisnovaturbo]

does anyone no if the corsa vxr, astra vxr and zafira vxr gear ratios are different from each other, as they all run a m32 gearbox :confused:

[Sloth]

ratios differ, corsa casting is different iirc

[garethcolley]

ratios differ, corsa casting is different iirc

Correct, there isnt the mounting lug on the back of the Corsa M32 box.

[Sloth]

cheers gareth. the internals can be swapped though. m32 is very french looking ;)

[chrisnovaturbo]

ive found a corsa m32 for £600 with 17,000 and a astra m32 for £400 with 10,000. probly go for the astra one lol

[Sloth]

yar. astra one it is. :d

[chrisnovaturbo]

just orderd the m32 astra vxr gear box :d