View Full Version : Pauls Nova Turbo Rebuild
discoinferno
25-04-10, 09:37 AM
engine back in and running mate?
Engine in approx 500 pieces on a tyre still, just got in from work, working tomorrow and tuesday. Snetterton wednesday?lol
discoinferno
28-04-10, 09:15 AM
this back together yet???
bo4ts16v
28-04-10, 02:54 PM
looking nice
scott.parker
01-06-10, 05:41 PM
Paul what tyres is it your running on this, the ones from Oulton, if you have put it in the thread cant be arsed to look through it all! lol
Scott
s drives Scott, theyre not brilliant, but have lasted quite well.
And to update this, it will be ready for PV :)
Recently I have, blown the headgasket, fixed it, had a ZLET Oil Pump fitted, welded on a hockley plating kit, painted bottom half of the bay, and painted some other bits and bobs, made some solid engine mounts, done Snetterton, destroyed my inlet manifold, had the inlet manifold fixed.
So it went like this:
Hockley Plating kit welded on and bottom half of the bay painted:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs486.snc3/26595_385940302399_637782399_4346657_5073867_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs486.snc3/26595_385940612399_637782399_4346662_7037828_n.jpg
Re-wrapped my downpipe:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs319.ash1/28106_387161152399_637782399_4375604_6035772_n.jpg
Making the solid mounts:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs486.snc3/26595_385941747399_637782399_4346676_6144629_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs486.snc3/26595_385942047399_637782399_4346677_7228322_n.jpg
Didnt like the idea of hanging it throught my Astra GTE Alloy mount, so made a new drivers side mount up out of steel:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs506.snc3/26595_385939587399_637782399_4346631_5145974_n.jpg
Painted up some bits and bobs:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs506.snc3/26595_385940977399_637782399_4346667_3608888_n.jpg
Got the engine back:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs506.snc3/26595_385940977399_637782399_4346667_3608888_n.jpg
Put it back in the hole, you can see the finished drivers side mount here, and my bling painted painted bits lol:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs279.snc3/28106_387162427399_637782399_4375645_2398229_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs543.snc3/29746_387472802399_637782399_4384232_8043262_n.jpg
Fitted the remaining bits back on:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs503.ash1/29746_387472072399_637782399_4384227_6971489_n.jpg
Done Snetterton, destroyed a CV, changed that then destroyed the inlet manifold:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs306.snc3/28936_387925987399_637782399_4393804_166689_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs536.snc3/30433_389824232399_637782399_4434562_4436236_n.jpg
So had it welded back up by a mate of mine:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs284.snc3/27886_398168972399_637782399_4631121_5391268_n.jpg
Had some struts put in, to stop it from bowing out again, this is only temporary fix, but should suffice for PV and Snet @ the end of the month:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs284.snc3/27886_398172247399_637782399_4631278_2242500_n.jpg
And in prep for a dirty burnout at PV I am fitted all new brake lines, with a line lock, and for sensible driving a bias valve.
Paul
djbrowney
01-06-10, 10:50 PM
chav lol
cracking work mate, when is the next snet ???
MattBrown
01-06-10, 10:51 PM
My zip tie has gone off the chav valve:(
Interesting cross member at the front, something I need to look into.
Rick Draper
01-06-10, 11:45 PM
Paul forgive me for this but what power does it run now and is it on VXR injectors? Whats a rough spec of the motor now? Sorry dont fancy trawling through the whole thread to find that info out!
discoinferno
02-06-10, 12:05 AM
Paul forgive me for this but what power does it run now and is it on VXR injectors? Whats a rough spec of the motor now? Sorry dont fancy trawling through the whole thread to find that info out!
its 350bhp when last mapped mate, engine is pretty decent spec now iirc omegas,steel rods,z20let pump, oil spray jets, double spring and solid head, xe cams, t34
its 350bhp when last mapped mate, engine is pretty decent spec now iirc omegas,steel rods,z20let pump, oil spray jets, double spring and solid head, xe cams, t34
yeh, pretty much, /\
the VXR injectors maxed out at 355bhp, to be honest, I dont want any more power, but with change of injectors, I reckon it would do 400 maybe, then the turbo would run out of puff.
chrisnovaturbo
02-06-10, 01:31 AM
ive got a t35 hybrid turbo kit for sale if you want a bigger turbo ;)
discoinferno
02-06-10, 06:14 AM
yeh, pretty much, /\
the VXR injectors maxed out at 355bhp, to be honest, I dont want any more power, but with change of injectors, I reckon it would do 400 maybe, then the turbo would run out of puff.
i run mine at 330bhp (16-17psi) and tbh that is way to much lol ive run it at highboost only a few times since i ve had it mapped, its just even more pointless than 330 lol lol lol lol lol
you trying out for totb again this year mate???
I have painted a set of my spare wheels pink;
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs106.snc4/35677_403745447399_637782399_4783058_5998927_n.jpg
I have also bought some 350lb front springs, GAZ, just got to get the spring cup/platforms machined to take them (SPAX) as they are 3mm smaller I.D.
Finally got round to fitting my eccentric top mounts too!
And I'm doing Snett on Monday!
Least he's got his put on :p lol
G A Y
Evidentally you have no idea, that is the most gangster colour wheels ever :cool:
They are quite P I M P tbh.
But still a touch homosexual
They are this pink:
http://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/upload110803/701&703_060803.jpg
First Coach Pink
Is Snett a full day on Monday???
djbrowney
22-06-10, 10:43 PM
because he is chav lol
Well, evenful day at Snet.
I have a few things to fix, such as a crack in the chassis, ongoing CV problem...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs078.ash2/37252_443696010630_564695630_6505881_5250862_n.jpg
Browney is going to have some strengthening plates made for here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_0953.jpg?1277824328
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_0954.jpg?1277824352
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1057.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1058.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1478.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1479.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1480.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_2843.jpg
Big thanks to Browney and Marris for their help n that yesterday!
To be honest I think it was quickest thing there in a straight line all day, blew a 510bhp 2wd EsCos away, bloke was mortified. Killed a new Skyline, M3 CSL and few other exotics :D Shame I had to take it easy round the bends in the last sessions as to not blow the CV joint to pieces...
discoinferno
29-06-10, 04:25 PM
looks like you had fun mate, love the pink wheels:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::t humb:
at least we only changed 10 cv joints, and there was more oil on the floor than in the engine,cv ball bearings rolling around everywhere, i had a top day, got burnt to a crisp, and had a smile from end to end blowing every bmw csl, porker gt, and cosworth on road, its so much fun when you turn up in an old rusty vauxhall vectra pulling a gay pink wheel nova , wearing fake ralph lauren polo shirts and reebok classics,with a fag hanging out, then looking around at the pros in there 50grand race cars and fire suits tutting at us, jaws dropped as it went past everythinglol lol !! book another one i say! im game:cool:
at least we only changed 10 cv joints, and there was more oil on the floor than in the engine,cv ball bearings rolling around everywhere, i had a top day, got burnt to a crisp, and had a smile from end to end blowing every bmw csl, porker gt, and cosworth on road, its so much fun when you turn up in an old rusty vauxhall vectra pulling a gay pink wheel nova , wearing fake ralph lauren polo shirts and reebok classics,with a fag hanging out, then looking around at the pros in there 50grand race cars and fire suits tutting at us, jaws dropped as it went past everythinglol lol !! book another one i say! im game:cool:
"PNG Club.com, thats how we roll" :cool:
lol lol
krobinson
29-06-10, 05:59 PM
Love the wheels, perfect for the track!
How on earth does the chassis crack like that?
How on earth does the chassis crack like that?
most likely turning in hard on the brakes, which is actually a far higher force than acceleration, contrary to popular omg-its-a-let-plate-the-chassis, belief lol
lol
i thought i was the only one who was crazy enough to go fluor pink
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/mayhem22/Foto0353.jpg
The Simps
29-06-10, 06:51 PM
Bugger! I completley forgot about the Snetterton session! Could of come down (as planned!). Glad you had fun tho.
looks like a good day :thumb:
Car looking ace as normal :)
at least we only changed 10 cv joints, and there was more oil on the floor than in the engine,cv ball bearings rolling around everywhere, i had a top day, got burnt to a crisp, and had a smile from end to end blowing every bmw csl, porker gt, and cosworth on road, its so much fun when you turn up in an old rusty vauxhall vectra pulling a gay pink wheel nova , wearing fake ralph lauren polo shirts and reebok classics,with a fag hanging out, then looking around at the pros in there 50grand race cars and fire suits tutting at us, jaws dropped as it went past everythinglol lol !! book another one i say! im game:cool:
That post has given me the inspiration to maybe go get on with my turbo at the weekend lol
Looks great paul, is the grill falling out or is it just the mind bending boost??
That post has given me the inspiration to maybe go get on with my turbo at the weekend lol
Looks great paul, is the grill falling out or is it just the mind bending boost??
it's squashed onto the oil cooler IIRC :) Proper performance cram it in where it fits stylee
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_1480.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ALX_2843.jpg
In the last pic, looks like hes going for it down the straight
hahaha Dude it looks awesome out there.
Looks like a animal on the track Paul,
also loving the wheels!!! Uber :cool:
also saw this at pv and you really appreciate the colour of the car more in flesh!
craig green
29-06-10, 08:21 PM
Car looks well Paul. Hat off for showing up some expensive machinery.
it makes it worth while, its not about how much money you have, its about how many cv joints you can change in a day! i can say, its the most fun and fastest track car ive had the pleasure of breaking and blowing uplol , and best of all it was built in a chicken shed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! new cars are crap compared to a rusty old nova!:cool:
at least we only changed 10 cv joints, and there was more oil on the floor than in the engine,cv ball bearings rolling around everywhere, i had a top day, got burnt to a crisp, and had a smile from end to end blowing every bmw csl, porker gt, and cosworth on road, its so much fun when you turn up in an old rusty vauxhall vectra pulling a gay pink wheel nova , wearing fake ralph lauren polo shirts and reebok classics,with a fag hanging out, then looking around at the pros in there 50grand race cars and fire suits tutting at us, jaws dropped as it went past everythinglol lol !! book another one i say! im game:cool:
FPMSL @ that post. What makes it even more funny is anyone that knows Paul knows "fag hanging out of mouth" describes him perfectly lol lol !!!
Good to see it went well mate, even if you broke a few bits.
And the pink looks look fooooking mint on there on those pics :cool::cool::cool::cool:
scott.parker
01-07-10, 05:43 PM
lol lol lol lol Well TBF Paul it would not be "you" if wore a fire suite, or didn't brake something!
Sounds like a very very fun, but also unfortunate day mate, must say the wheels work better then i thought they would, top car, top lad.
Scott
krobinson
01-07-10, 06:42 PM
Is it Inner or Outer C.V's the car keeps killing?
scott.parker
01-07-10, 06:49 PM
Keith at guess i would say outers, but I'll probably be wrong, as it is Paul he'll do the opposite to normal! lol
its the inners it keeps killing. And I have figured out why.
When it ripped the bolt holes out of the floor (rear mount) the new bit I welded in, is 10mm too far towards the drivers side, so the short shaft is constantly at full extension, so when I go round a bend, it pulls it too far, and just kills it.
i like rolling around in cv grease and smelling of gearbox oil, it makes the track day worth it!, paul you owe me a sports direct.com air max vest as that last day killed it!!!
Do you want your Sportdirect.com boxers back Alex, they plumbed the driveshaft hole up well, but now are redundant as I have the CV back in.
only if they stink of fish!
CV grease and gearbox oil probably the worse things EVER to be rolling around in lol lol lol
i used them to soak up a puddle of old gearbox oil, so they do yeah lol
We need a new pile of rags, raid Sadie's wardrobe innit.
used pants? or a thong to mop up the puddle?
CV grease and gearbox oil probably the worse things EVER to be rolling around in lol lol lol
Meh Im used to it now, it used to literaly make me gag lol
scott.parker
01-07-10, 08:05 PM
Meh Im used to it now, it used to literaly make me gag lol
I transported a F20 in the back of my old Renault 19 from Dave Marshals, i didn't think to check for spills/leaks, i found out a few months later that some had spilt, as in the very how weather you would open the door to the car and gag MASSIVELY almost chuck up! lol lol
It is a smell that stays with you for life lol
craig green
01-07-10, 10:23 PM
I found out a few months later that some had spilt, as in the very how weather you would open the door to the car and gag MASSIVELY almost chuck up! lol lol
My mates old scooby wagon had a load of box oil spilt in the boot. That smelt rough for ages afterwards. :wtf: :p
I had a Nova SRi 1.6 years ago an some numpety had welded every hole up in the floor pan, the spare wheel well had about 5 litres of engine oil in there :(
must of been the only rust free partlol
General Baxter
02-07-10, 08:05 AM
It is a smell that stays with you for life lol
i got some gearbox oil on some jeans 4 years ago, you can still wiff it lol
djbrowney
05-07-10, 11:40 PM
****ing messy *******
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/djbrowney/001-73.jpg
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discoinferno
06-07-10, 07:53 AM
whats tyres were you running paul???
just toyo proxes t1rpauls tyre were out of a skip, we had our own bin just for all the dead cvslol
discoinferno
06-07-10, 10:23 PM
:)
I have no idea what I last said about this in my thread, but I welded a new rear floor section in the car, as i riped it out. When i re-installed the rear floor mount i got my measurement 10mm out, hence the constant CV problem.
So i fixed that, and then decided I wasnt happy with the wiring, I have just finished doing in, not too many pics but:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs203.snc4/38501_413311417399_637782399_5026939_540337_n.jpg
And now:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs084.ash2/37525_413527322399_637782399_5031558_6171620_n.jpg
See no nasty wires underneath the gauges:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs232.snc4/38923_413528572399_637782399_5031577_6514854_n.jpg
looks good, who made it work?lol
Took me a few mins to work out what you ment by rear floor section, guess you mean the rear engine mount?
Im sure ^Alex is going to miss rolling around in gearbox fluid.
yeh where the engine mount bolts into
im sure paul will blow something else up on his, so i have something new to roll around in, when we are down the chicken coop or out with either one of our novas , we always egg each other on to blow each others cars up, its the law!!!!!!!!
discoinferno
24-07-10, 09:08 PM
good progress paul are you at totb this year ???
scott.parker
25-07-10, 07:19 PM
Glad you got that mount sorted out mate,wires look neater.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs197.snc4/38169_414429107399_637782399_5061235_7553376_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs129.ash2/39813_414431887399_637782399_5061279_6742594_n.jpg
djbrowney
28-07-10, 11:13 PM
yer baby :)
drag suspension? :)
I have driven it on the road, its top notch for road use also, if you want no teeth left, and you like your moobs vigorously shaking up and down!
I have driven it on the road, its top notch for road use also, if you want no teeth left, and you like your moobs vigorously shaking up and down!
My mum/sister always said similar about mine and that was only a standard spax kit lol
MattBrown
29-07-10, 12:14 AM
My mum/sister always said similar about mine and that was only a standard spax kit lol
Your mum and sister have moobs?:wtf:
scott.parker
29-07-10, 02:02 AM
Paul i love you mate! lol lol you do things that most (or i) joke about.. good lad, so theses are for TOTB i take it?
Scott
Your mum and sister have moobs?:wtf:
Please do look up the meaning of "similar" sometime.
djbrowney
29-07-10, 08:01 AM
Paul i love you mate! lol lol you do things that most (or i) joke about.. good lad, so theses are for TOTB i take it?
Scott
He wants to go to chav fest rather than totb stupid boy :mad:
USC here he comes lol.
So I take having the rear end raised for the strip is a good thing? I raised mine up at PBS wound the coilovers right up and my times got slower lol
Car looking good as always and the pink is growing on me lol
chrisnovaturbo
29-07-10, 08:48 AM
you going usc then paul?
scott.parker
29-07-10, 11:02 AM
USC here he comes lol.
So I take having the rear end raised for the strip is a good thing? I raised mine up at PBS wound the coilovers right up and my times got slower lol
Car looking good as always and the pink is growing on me lol
I think the people who raise it do so as there theory is that the wight gets distributed to the font onto the wheels, but all Ive ever done is turn my Avo's on to max stiffness to stop it from bogging down and losing traction that way etc (hence solid rears no movement)
Scott
tipping it forward does put a tiny bit more weight on the front wheels, but it's gonna be a small difference, the main thing is it doesn't lift the nose and camber the wheels to 5 degrees positive.
Yeh I'm goin USC, love it! TOTB wasn't a go-er for me this year. If you have seen my car down the 1/4 then you will see just how much the back square down, which doesn't help traction.
discoinferno
29-07-10, 05:45 PM
Yeh I'm goin USC, love it! TOTB wasn't a go-er for me this year. If you have seen my car down the 1/4 then you will see just how much the back square down, which doesn't help traction.
shame your not going to totb would be nice to catch up!!! maybe next year if i still have mine :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
progress is good as always fella
chrisnovaturbo
30-07-10, 09:00 AM
Yeh I'm goin USC, love it! TOTB wasn't a go-er for me this year. If you have seen my car down the 1/4 then you will see just how much the back square down, which doesn't help traction.
them bars will help big time. you putting the speedlines back on for the pod??
No putting my slicks on for it I think. Bright prink cesaros lol
chrisnovaturbo
31-07-10, 12:25 AM
No putting my slicks on for it I think. Bright prink cesaros lol
sound like a plan lol so you should break into the 11s then :thumb:
sound like a plan lol so you should break into the 11s then :thumb:
Hopefully eh :d Although the track prep is always **** for USC til the ESC cars get a go!
discoinferno
31-07-10, 06:37 AM
11.9 to beat :)
Picked up my new shell for this last night...
Picked up my new shell for this last night...
Mike Levy likes this lol lol
chrisnovaturbo
31-07-10, 10:35 AM
Picked up my new shell for this last night...
new shell? any pics?
^Snap, i want to see pics too... lol
lol I hope you are painting it, dont think the colour suits :p
pictures or it never happened!!! this is the WORST thread everlol lol
I have got a mammoth welding burn, three fingers and both forearms :(
Rick Draper
31-07-10, 07:08 PM
Brownies shell?
discoinferno
31-07-10, 07:29 PM
good purchase paul ??? what colour is it going??
Whats up with the yellow shell? Plans to do anything differently?
do you have a massive burnt FORHEAD!, what i want to know is did the roof hit the floor when you rolled it over with the one pound fifty jig you made out of an old fish pond cover!!
I just want to start again, no idea on colour. There will be a few changes, no hurry to do it, just as and when I can be bothered.
Pink lol
Got to be a bright colour.
Pictures of it:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs069.ash2/36795_415866592399_637782399_5101809_7904679_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs189.snc4/37768_415553957399_637782399_5090429_5713780_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs247.snc4/39712_415865757399_637782399_5101783_7221780_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs109.ash2/38773_415865647399_637782399_5101780_1470988_n.jpg
any surprises yet?
A used condom in the boot, other than nothing at all lol
MattBrown
02-08-10, 08:58 PM
OMFG:(
I so want that shell for my let:(
A used condom in the boot, other than nothing at all lol
LMAO lol
Oh bugger, il have to buy a replacement condom now then, no more reusing that one :(
Anyway ad the shell is clean as far as i know, and matt, it was for sale on here.
PS: Check out that pink wheel, he hadnt even got it on the trailer before putting pink wheels on it!
Nah on a serious note Alex, it really is clean, cheers mate. Its off to be blasted soon.
What was wrong with the yellow shell?
What was wrong with the yellow shell?
Nothign really, I just wanted to start a fresh, do it properly, how I should have done it the first time, blasted it, proper cage, TIG instead of MIG on cage etc.
Senesible colour, more track orientated...
I could have re-done the yellow one, but that would have left me without a car, which I didnt want.
new green the mazda come in :) with pink wheels and yellow spots lol
At least i dont have to up load your pics this time..lol
Very nice looking shell. But one thing. You want a full on cage with turrets and everything yes? Wouldn't it work out cheaper buying Djbrowney's already caged and turreted shell?
At least i dont have to up load your pics this time..lol
Very nice looking shell. But one thing. You want a full on cage with turrets and everything yes? Wouldn't it work out cheaper buying Djbrowney's already caged and turreted shell?
It probably would yes, but Im not interested in cost really, Im more intwerested in doing in how I want it done.
Personally I dont like the square turrets. And the price I paid for this shell which was on my doorstep I cant moan at all.
Just thought it would save you time and money. And its a hell of a cage.
Sure the new one will be awesome tho.
chrisnovaturbo
03-08-10, 08:37 AM
how much does it cost to get it blasted paul?
Good to see Alex's shell to stay in the club,
Will be watching this one paul, know how the yellow one came out, this one is going to be another beauty ;) :thumb:
paul who did you get your zlet oil pump and bits off,as wanna get one
djbrowney
03-08-10, 02:03 PM
paul who did you get your zlet oil pump and bits off,as wanna get one
steve boy slim :thumb:
steve boy slim :thumb:
thanks browney thats who im getting mine off,oh well have to take the engine out again,or can it be done with it in,sorry to spam your thread paul
just wait and see what bodges paul and maris have in storelol
djbrowney
03-08-10, 04:47 PM
It can tony just a fookin fiddle lol
thanks paul and djbrowney,will get it sorted soon
Hey Paul, looks like you've found a solid base for a new shell. Can't wait to see the pics of it blasted! Are you having it primered/sealed before you get it back or getting it back bare metal?
Hey Paul, looks like you've found a solid base for a new shell. Can't wait to see the pics of it blasted! Are you having it primered/sealed before you get it back or getting it back bare metal?
Im not sure yet, probably primed, but apparentely some sort of transparent primer/sealer which wont react with paint, stop the rust and also you can weld over.
I picked up a fibreglass boot for this today with doors and some new tyres for the yellow one! Cheers Browney!
djbrowney
05-08-10, 08:19 AM
no worries cock sucker !
no worries cock sucker !thats the worst kfc ive ever been tolol
pikey1986
05-08-10, 01:55 PM
just read this from start to finish, great car and great work
cant wait to see what your new one turns out like :thumb:
A quick update, so whilst I await a quote from the blasters to finish off the shell.
I thought I'd crack on with my mate Glen, welding the front (well til we ran out of gas FFS)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs398.snc4/46141_420649152399_637782399_5230729_373082_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs372.snc4/45555_420649242399_637782399_5230730_3958262_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs388.snc4/45151_420649372399_637782399_5230733_7661415_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs273.snc4/40012_420649457399_637782399_5230734_3904178_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs388.snc4/45167_420649527399_637782399_5230736_2028228_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs307.snc4/40665_420649617399_637782399_5230737_6466380_n.jpg
More pics to come in the next few days
Paul
The Simps
17-08-10, 02:30 AM
oooh pretty!
That's some nice welding.
is this going 4x4 or what????
That avatar pic is about the funniest thing ive seen all year!
Its all coming on mateypips. i have been quietly watching :)
craig green
17-08-10, 08:58 PM
That avatar pic is about the funniest thing ive seen all year!
you're not wrong. lol
scott.parker
17-08-10, 10:12 PM
That avatar pic is about the funniest thing ive seen all year!
He's the only one "staying Alive"
Cracked me up, my missis thinks I'm mad..
Nice penetration Paul..
Ive found a blaster who is sensibly priced, shell wil be being blasted on Monday with a bit of luck
Paul
craig green
23-08-10, 09:08 PM
I guess when it's blasted, you will have to move quick to get it in primer.
I guess when it's blasted, you will have to move quick to get it in primer.
Ill spray the whole thing with etch primer when i bring it home.
Can you not coat it in weld-through primer so there's less to clean off should you need to weld more areas?
weld through primer... link?
Only seen it in spray cans from people like UPOL (Weld #2 I think), dunno if you can get it in tins for gunning on or if it's any good TBH! :)
MattBrown
23-08-10, 10:10 PM
Ive found a blaster who is sensibly priced, shell wil be being blasted on Monday with a bit of luck
Paul
Whats sencibly priced?
I have a blaster, and am toying with building a rig in the garage, and just "buying" the shot, and binning it after its gone etc.
Its dirt cheap, but will be messy, will the waste of the shot, outweigh the cost of having it done?
djbrowney
23-08-10, 10:34 PM
you cant have researched buying the shot if you think it cheap matt !!!
MattBrown
23-08-10, 10:36 PM
you cant have researched buying the shot if you think it cheap matt !!!
I have my own blaster lol
So yeah, its not bad at all.
A big sack is about £19:thumb:
djbrowney
23-08-10, 10:37 PM
what a 25 kg bag, is it re usable or one shot only ???
MattBrown
23-08-10, 10:42 PM
what a 25 kg bag, is it re usable or one shot only ???
If im gonna use it on a car, it mayaswell be one shot.
The reusable stuff is around £25 for a 25kg bag:thumb:
djbrowney
23-08-10, 10:45 PM
you want at least 10 maybe 15 bags to do a car :)
25 kg is going to do you about 12 square inches lol
MattBrown
23-08-10, 10:48 PM
you want at least 10 maybe 15 bags to do a car :)
25 kg is going to do you about 12 square inches lol
May have to get the shell into work then lol
Or, just wire wheel it instead.
I do all my suspention, brakes, etc in mine, and its finelol
This car is going to be epic once its completed :thumb:
dj_wudgey
24-08-10, 01:33 PM
nice welding there matey lol good project this!!
So, I had the Nova blasted today.
Thats COOOOL! Any more rust found?
Lol at the ****ty sealer stuff i put on the servo/brake pedal bit lol
how much did that cost Paul if you dont mind????
MattBrown
30-08-10, 09:57 PM
The shell is seriously clean.
Top work paul.
Top stuff Paul. Why the new shell, or is your current yellow one deadwood?
I wanted to start from fresh Mike, this may turn out to be a longer project than I first thought, as I have a few ides running through my head, but need to think about it a bit more first.
Cheers Matt, tis very clean, and no Alex, no more rust found, so chuffed really.
Wasnt much Matt under half what all the other sand/shotblasting places said, if that gives you an idea, and on a bank holiday aswell!
craig green
30-08-10, 10:05 PM
Is blasting the new dipping?
Good bit of progress Paul.
MattBrown
30-08-10, 10:09 PM
Is blasting the new dipping?
Good bit of progress Paul.
I'd say so.
If hockly does his rally slags with it.
It cant be badlol
Good stuff Paul, shell looks solid as f**k!!!
I wanted to start from fresh Mike, this may turn out to be a longer project than I first thought, as I have a few ides running through my head, but need to think about it a bit more first.
Ooooh good stuff. I know what you mean about things turning out to take longer then expected lol Im having the same with this Corsa of mine :(
Kev Turbo
31-08-10, 11:45 AM
Dipping is the new blasting :)
Dipping is very pricey though. Worth it of you can afford it!
How much was the blasting Paul.
Great work!
dj_wudgey
31-08-10, 02:32 PM
the shell looks well solid matey!! and loving the blasting pics lol
krobinson
31-08-10, 06:09 PM
I wanted to start from fresh Mike, this may turn out to be a longer project than I first thought, as I have a few ides running through my head, but need to think about it a bit more first.
Cheers Matt, tis very clean, and no Alex, no more rust found, so chuffed really.
Wasnt much Matt under half what all the other sand/shotblasting places said, if that gives you an idea, and on a bank holiday aswell!
Nice shell Paul,
What sort of finish are you looking from this one? Functional or mint?
whos that burkelol
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs181.ash2/44376_425028562399_637782399_5344154_1815375_n.jpg
That does look very clean under side.
So me and Glen cracked on with some welding tonight:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs181.ash2/44439_425399682399_637782399_5353000_2177652_n.jpg
Glen-E boy representing:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs411.snc4/47468_425399862399_637782399_5353001_5652635_n.jpg
Zinc Primed:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs377.snc4/46046_425399972399_637782399_5353002_6719511_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs364.snc4/44771_425400442399_637782399_5353014_49185_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs417.snc4/48045_425401012399_637782399_5353034_6026494_n.jpg
Sand still in a lot of seams:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs191.ash2/45382_425400932399_637782399_5353033_1870380_n.jpg
Til next time
Paul
The blasting was £150.
Im going to go for more functional than mint Keith, although I do want it clean, that make sense?
PAul
scott.parker
01-09-10, 01:11 AM
The blasting was £150.
Im going to go for more functional than mint Keith, although I do want it clean, that make sense?
PAul
total sense mate, you don't want it to rotter to ****, this way you can see any rot and deal with it!
Oh just seen Glens Astra in TV looks good all sorted,:thumb:
You'll be finding sand for weeks...
This project isnt a stand still, ive been buying parts, pics to follow...
I was expecting a proper update :(
You will see a proper update soon, attention has been on the transmission system...
So, got bored today and had a little go on the Nova again, bought a sheet of 2mm steel, and set about making some chassis rail plates. Firstly to strengthen area where I jack car up from and use axle stands, and secondly to tidy up the mess, where jacks had dug into the rails:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs353.ash2/63325_435227467399_637782399_5566836_4648663_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs061.snc4/34416_435227557399_637782399_5566837_546471_n.jpg
Paul
Are you not adding strut top plates?
yeh and the HH strengthening kit. Not bought it yet.
Fair play starting again when the yellow one works so well
Fair play starting again when the yellow one works so well
It's ok, I am thinking of going 4WD...
discoinferno
28-09-10, 07:35 PM
4wd it paul be rude not too
and secondly to tidy up the mess, where jacks had dug into the rails:
Wasnt me :tumble:
Which shell would you 4WD?
Wasnt me :tumble:
Which shell would you 4WD?
The green/blue/silver one
Your a savage with a jack Mr Alex!
lol
It was too low, was easier to force the jack under it. Also the axle stands are a bit rough on it i know.
scott.parker
28-09-10, 08:02 PM
Good idea that Paul, i ****ing hate mine for slipping off the jacks at that point as it's all gone manky over time/repeated jacking etc..
4WD, humm who's going to create the best one then, you or Ste?
Scott
I keep thinking of welding over the chassis bits too, as mines been jacked up badly in the past. Beautiful welding there too.
I keep thinking of welding over the chassis bits too, as mines been jacked up badly in the past. Beautiful welding there too.
Yeh, it is a good idea, it strengthens it up for future jacking, makes it look nicer, and also when you weld the plate , your acually adding quite a lot of strength cause its putting a proper box section over two seperate bits of chassis, that are otherwise only joined with 6 spot welds.
Thanks Ben, it is improving :)
Yeah all reasons i was thinking about, and yeah its got very good.
good idea that paul,will have to put that on my list when the car is back,mine are looking abit sorry for there self,will tidy it up nicely,nice bit of welding there mate
Rick Draper
08-10-10, 11:55 AM
Come on then, what engine have you got lined up?
DEAN-DOHERTY
08-10-10, 12:36 PM
Tinking of getting a sticker made up saying you've been novataken for the back window lmao.
OMG i was just reading you build and i was gona get this sticker for the back of my nova when i get my redtop in.
couldnt decide
you have just beenova taken
or you have just been novataken
thats such a coninsidence we think alike. did you ever get the sticker. i thought i would be the only one to ever think of it lol
As your going XE it wouldn't be the Rick Wood engine thats for sale would it ?
i think this is the one paul
http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?160521-Ric-wood-motorsport-xe-race-engine
krobinson
08-10-10, 04:43 PM
I thought this was a re-shell and not a full new build?
MattBrown
08-10-10, 04:45 PM
Sounds like pauls got a trick up his sleeve?
Maybe its a wide arched slut like dan?
Or something more subtle (I doubt)
Shells coming on well, very very clean IMO
:)
Sick of blowing the welds on the intake YO?
I want an XE on TB's, nothing special. something i can smash up on a wet weather track day and laugh about. Got in too deep with they yellow one I think.
discoinferno
08-10-10, 08:26 PM
Great idea tb'd xe is the way forward look at alex's nova takes the abuse all day
Wise choice, the problem with any big power let is it has its fair share of problems, anyone that uses on eas much as you have will openly admit that, where as a xe will take punishment all day if you don't go too silly with it.
Look at Olly Novas for example, cheap spec, throw away engine if it all went tits up, only issue is the need for a decent box but thats bugger all in comparison to running a let engine reliably for any length of time.
If you need a SCCR gearset I have a brand new one here from Steve.
Done some more work on the Nova:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs911.snc4/72489_440222197399_637782399_5663945_4916861_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs398.ash2/67614_440225312399_637782399_5663998_13999_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs136.ash2/40130_440225467399_637782399_5663999_7714944_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs137.snc4/37175_440225812399_637782399_5664013_8004298_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs396.ash2/67425_440226902399_637782399_5664076_5143469_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs883.snc4/71685_440227117399_637782399_5664077_1722807_n.jpg
All the stitch welding is now done on the inside and underneath, all I have left to do is the Front X member, and make some strenghtening plates for it.
Done the two repairs that needed doing at the front end, one on the bottom corner of the splash shield and the other up by the suspension turret.
Both rear arch/sill corners are cut out and ready to be properly repaired. The inner arch behind is having a new section and then Ill look at the arch repair section corners.
Need to get some metal for the spare wheel well.
Paul
craig green
12-10-10, 08:38 PM
Nice progress Paul, welds in all the right places & more.
I didnt see the engine choice swap to n/a coming but it makes sense esp if track days are your thing.
[edit] I see the chassis leg is still intact, why not consider Oli Danker's old smallblock motor? lol
Awesome welding. So high reving tb'ed xe.. Sounds good dude. Can see this being a tool in your hands, Alex passed me at Combe with what felt like ease.
Nice work Paul.
TB'd XE is always a good bet tbh.
Take abuse all day long, ok not as mental/fun as your old engine (fcuking bonkers lol ), but enough power to make it quick on track and pennies to replace standard xe bits.
The Simps
12-10-10, 11:18 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs911.snc4/72489_440222197399_637782399_5663945_4916861_n.jpg
Carefull Paul - thats how mine started! Grinding is addictive lol
/\ oh yea and wheres an update lol :)
Looking good paul :thumb:
discoinferno
13-10-10, 08:27 AM
Wise choice, the problem with any big power let is it has its fair share of problems, anyone that uses on eas much as you have will openly admit that, where as a xe will take punishment all day if you don't go too silly with it.
i have seen alot of problems on fairly high hp c20let's ( most are budget builds though, whihc gives the c20let a bad name, when built properly by people who know what they are doing they are superb engines, pauls motor is a peach), my let so far touch wood has been superb (well apart from the first melted engine whihc was out of my control) the latest engine has be relatively trouble free. think im up to 2,000miles in the 6 months this year , 3 trackdays, and numerous runs up the 1/4
putting all that aside though i would still like a well built xe similar to will foys engine with an addition of an sccr it would be ripping along
best of luck paul :thumb: :thumb:
nice build Paul.
You must of liked it out in my old build Alex,s White one.
Its good your not totally giving up, Whatever you end up building it will be cool.
nice build Paul.
You must of liked it out in my old build Alex,s White one.
Worked very well, i want something cheap, at the moment my shell owes me £270.
And a bit of time, obviously got the cage going in and an xe which will make it cost more.
But i want something i can use come rain or snow!
A nice £2k build is what you need Paul. Your yellow one is lovely yeah, but obviously came at a price & time :(
i have seen alot of problems on fairly high hp c20let's ( most are budget builds though, whihc gives the c20let a bad name, when built properly by people who know what they are doing they are superb engines, pauls motor is a peach), my let so far touch wood has been superb (well apart from the first melted engine whihc was out of my control) the latest engine has be relatively trouble free. think im up to 2,000miles in the 6 months this year , 3 trackdays, and numerous runs up the 1/4
putting all that aside though i would still like a well built xe similar to will foys engine with an addition of an sccr it would be ripping along
best of luck paul :thumb: :thumb:
True to a point but I'd like to see if your car ( not engine ) could stand the abuse lets say Olly Hewitts did in a year. That car was massively reliable.
Not knocking your car, its certainly a good engine, but things still go wrong and give it time and I expect yours will have a few problems, putting the Elite box in it may solve any gearbox woes but at a extreme cost, more than a xe track car costs to build nearly !
True to a point but I'd like to see if your car ( not engine ) could stand the abuse lets say Olly Hewitts did in a year. That car was massively reliable.
Not knocking your car, its certainly a good engine, but things still go wrong and give it time and I expect yours will have a few problems, putting the Elite box in it may solve any gearbox woes but at a extreme cost, more than a xe track car costs to build nearly !
Ollys old engine went into my old build and was still going strong when i sold it.
Its only its played up was when the head gasket went a few months back on Alex apart from that the engine had loads of abuse and just kept coming back for more.
I just love how it sound going upto avon rise..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAaD9Pe-kVQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCTPXya25RY
discoinferno
13-10-10, 07:43 PM
True to a point but I'd like to see if your car ( not engine ) could stand the abuse lets say Olly Hewitts did in a year. That car was massively reliable.
Not knocking your car, its certainly a good engine, but things still go wrong and give it time and I expect yours will have a few problems, putting the Elite box in it may solve any gearbox woes but at a extreme cost, more than a xe track car costs to build nearly !
i see your point i am expecting issues with the gearbox if it stays as is (hard track use will kill the synchros in no time im sure) but the plan over winter is to get the elite gearbox designed built and fitted for next spring :)
Disco have you considered a seat leon cupra r gearbox?
discoinferno
13-10-10, 09:11 PM
tbh i have not considered either
discoinferno
13-10-10, 09:37 PM
Worth a thought?
to buy a box, have an adapter plate mate, new clutch plates, mounts, shafts linkages etc it wouldnt work out much cheaper if at all than the elite sccr dog kit
i would like to use the gt4 gearbox but alot of work im sure to squeeze into a nova again all the bits required wouldnt be cheap
Done a little bit more on the Nova:
Having a tea break, lol
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs809.snc4/68986_440595637399_637782399_5670322_177352_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs022.snc4/33473_440636792399_637782399_5670977_8381294_n.jpg
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[IMG]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs186.ash2/44946_440637062399_637782399_5670983_264810_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs803.snc4/68316_440637297399_637782399_5670986_7321553_n.jpg
Oh and I run the grinder through one of my R888's :mad:
Tidy, shame about the tyre chop tho lol
Good work on the floor, love the jig. Turreting the rear?
Good work.
I've always wondered if its a good idea to put box sections between the chassis legs across where the wheel well used to be for extra strength.
Good work.
I've always wondered if its a good idea to put box sections between the chassis legs across where the wheel well used to be for extra strength.
It dont need it mate
Nice build and im sure ive seen that boot floor lay out before lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/JDL%20Project/jdlnova085.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/JDL%20Project/jdlnova068.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/JDL%20Project/jdlnova008.jpg
well ive done it paul, gone from start to finish and hats off to you, some serious determination you have and the new shell progress looks awesome indeedily
Want me to drop mine off to you? Give you somthing else to do lol
Looks like good progress, cant beleive your starting again though. Not going to miss the turbo power?
Want me to drop mine off to you? Give you somthing else to do lol
Looks like good progress, cant beleive your starting again though. Not going to miss the turbo power?there has been a few motors in the chicken cooplol
djbrowney
17-10-10, 08:06 PM
Want me to drop mine off to you? Give you somthing else to do lol
Looks like good progress, cant beleive your starting again though. Not going to miss the turbo power?
i give it 6 months :thumb:
i give it 6 months :thumb:xe power all the way, plus wont be doing cv joints every 30 secondslol
I have some progress! 3months on.
Im a few ££££ lighter, pics to follow.
So i treated myself to a new welder, oerlikon 170 for those in the know. I 'acquired' a BOC bottle and had it changed on my mates account. Been to see Mr Hockly in Wales for a cage. Fitted some seat rails.
Had a good spend up @ Raldes, new bushes etc.
Popped up to GAZ and got myself some goodies, been busy with a wire wheel on the grinder and various tins of hammerite.
Been to a breakers to strip some much needed bits of a Nova.
Martin (bmw156) has dropped some bits off to me, ive got to pay him a visit and collect some more junk/goodies off of him. (when i wake up, sorry again mate :()
Mr Brown has dropped me a rebuilt XE.
Milton Motorsport is getting my gearbox for an ATB soon.
Its coming together...
discoinferno
18-01-11, 10:17 PM
N/a now Paul????
lol, glad your plans are rolling out Mr Paul
i got my gaz shocks through today as well. no cash deals though!
and drop me a text when you wanna come get those bits. im easy -
speak soon sleepy head!
Well, after 7 years and a half years, Ill miss you CBM :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/ba5b6212.jpg
The new banger, as it sits at the moment:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/bfbf6cca.jpg
New heater, makes the cold nights a bit more bearable!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/9b6105d4.jpg
I knew that Cavalier had some sort of use!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/5787fc0a.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
19-01-11, 04:28 PM
Looking good mate - i have the same heater and it works well
Drink the gas though, dont they! I used the remnants of the little bottle in about 10 mins. Now on a 33KG one i think
Is the new shell/car going to be white then ?
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