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Hardly enough room for a Nova lol
Southie
22-10-10, 08:26 PM
Hi Edmund, tyres lol
It's Edward you cheeky git lol
And yes I have a pair of tyres :d
Southie
22-10-10, 09:37 PM
Pics :d
You need four or you'll look like a kid on stabilisers lol
hartley
24-10-10, 11:18 AM
looking good mate will be amazing when its done
scott.parker
24-10-10, 12:04 PM
You not finished this yet Edd? lol
And Southie if you sell your mk1 your mad, you wont ever have another one..
You not finished this yet Edd? lol
And Southie if you sell your mk1 your mad, you wont ever have another one..
No not finished yet lol slowy making progress lol
Southie has seen the light Scott, its no longer forsale :thumb:
Southie
24-10-10, 12:48 PM
Scott I've amended my sig lol
Have you fitted it yet Edd? Be good to see how it looks etc. :)
Nick.
I got a pair of Perelli P6000's fitted on to my alloys the other day.
Trial fitted them today, this is a couple of pics with the springs fitted that I will be using;
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/21051f38.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/a69915bd.jpg
Look awesome IMO :d comments welcome tho.
But, took the springs out completely and lower it down;
3/4mm clearance near side;
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/a5b2aa92.jpg
But stupid Spanish coonts who built the shell must have mounted the beam slightly offset :mad:
Touching off side :(
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/1e979d32.jpg
Hears the thing, cause it's not going to be mega low, as the first few pics, will it scrub ? Or shall I mod the rear beam as I talked about before ?
Also excuse the dirt on the shell lol
More pics of what else iv done in the next few days.
Edd
What's happened to the n/s arch? :eek:
Royston
28-10-10, 07:11 PM
Had the same problem with the SR, that is why she is at std ride height:roll:
What's happened to the n/s arch? :eek:
You better ask Rich that :roll:
It was like it when I got the shell
You better ask Rich that :roll:
It was like it when I got the shell
oh dear, tell all lol
scott.parker
28-10-10, 09:32 PM
I'm pretty sure all beams are on the piss one way or other on all novas, as all mine have been one way etc..
Scott
I'm pretty sure all beams are on the piss one way or other on all novas, as all mine have been one way etc..
Scott
My first SR was like it but the other way round :roll:
Might just leave it doubt the suspension will compress that much,but not sure ???? lol
Nova_Tek
28-10-10, 09:46 PM
IIRC Nova's had uneven rear measurements something like 5mm out each side. One of my arches used to rub more than the other, just the way they are tbh.
Looks awesome on those new shoes Edd
Looks awesome on those new shoes Edd
Cheers
I know there not to everyones taste for a Sport but I love them lol
absolutly fantastic build there fella...ill give u me sister for this car? lol
check my build..gearheads convertable
Novasport
29-10-10, 12:55 AM
You better ask Rich that :roll:
It was like it when I got the shell
Umm, shell met brick wall and the wall came off better :cry:
Southie
29-10-10, 04:11 AM
I really want those wheels, badly, really really badly infact :cool: :cool: :cool: X infinity.
My rear beam is exactly the same Edd, when I put the 15's on last year I checked my passenger side for clearance because I remembered my nova years ago scrapped on that side, I didn't check the drivers side when settled though and it buckled the lip and chipped the paint once settled down. :(
Will be nice to see this with all the new lush alloys on, definately worth putting on a Sport IMO.
Btw I shall go back to bed now lol
After having a think about it overnight and another look this morning I'm now going to mod the beam, I don't want there to be even a small chance the tyre could rub on the arch.
Very beam is pissed, dont worry.
As the arch needs paint why not fold the arch? What beam mod are we talking about?
Cut of the plate which the stub axel bolts too and welding it on the other side, would give 8mm more clearance
Not too keen on folding the arch tbh, I like the factory look
if you was to do that mod your talking about it will bring wheel in thus rubbing on shock, inside tyre wall..:thumb:
Errr no it won't, wheels are et33 and there's about 20mm of clearance on inner arch and shock
Had the tape measure out lol
Errr no it won't, wheels are et33 and there's about 20mm of clearance on inner arch and shock
Had the tape measure out lol
But if you start fiddling with the rear wheel alignment, wont that feck up the geo etc?
Although yoiu should be able to counter it with some front wheel fettling I guess...
Isnt it more feasible that the rear quarters were spot welded on the pi**? Every Nova I have seen (and VW's too) is like that one way or t'other
it will make it crab. not good, and handle like a 3 legged pig in a bath.
its only putting the wheel back where it should be tho ?
EDIT; for the front, i was thinking of rose jointed bottom arms wound in 5mm, then get alloy adjustable top mounts and moving them in to suit, but is this going to make it handle like crap ? or is it a too small adjustment to be noticed ?
.........fooking wheels lol
the wheels look good on it edd :thumb:
Can you not get some machined of the matching face of the wheel? Bring the ET down(up)
If dont know what that plate is there on the beam, can you not just shave it down?
No chance of machining the back of the wheels, bolts are well deep inside
I think I'm going to do the mods on the beam tho
scott.parker
30-10-10, 12:34 PM
Edd i know you wish to keep the arches standard etc, but i think it's the most simple and easy way to do it without messing with the beam.
Scott
No chance of machining the back of the wheels, bolts are well deep inside
I think I'm going to do the mods on the beam tho
Bolts are well deep? You machine the mating surface...
I'd shave the plates on the beam down, i wouldn't remove them.
Edd i know you wish to keep the arches standard etc, but i think it's the most simple and easy way to do it without messing with the beam.
Scott
Yeah I know what your saying, I hav a spare beam to try it on .....
Also if I leave it as it is I think the fronts might catch as well :(
I know all this fiddling sounds a bit silly for a set of wheels but I get bored seeing the same rims on Nova's and like to different.
ATM I'm thinking of the beam mod for the rear and r/j'd bottom arms and adjustable top mounts, but not sure lol
do you have a spare beam that could be used? rather than modding your good one id try it on another one to see if it worked out the way you wanted, imo its worth doing to make the wheels fit.
Pfft i've done things to run different rims. Its the best way. Having the norm blows goats.
Could you get the rims machined to 42 offset, ie removing 9mm of material from the hub section of the rim, just like the factory would have done.
craig green
30-10-10, 04:45 PM
I looked at the wheels with Edd, I dont reckon there is enough meat on them to remove anything from the rear face tbh. 1 or 2mm tops.
Modding a beam is easy enough, but the fr will need some headscratching. Luckily I have some RJ'd TCA's if he wants to go down that route.
No way would I grind the arches on a brand new shell, sacriledge!
Southie
30-10-10, 05:00 PM
How about though getting the wheels machined and then use bolts and nuts instead of wheel bolts.
novacabrio
30-10-10, 05:44 PM
Take 2mm off the wheels, 2mm off the drum face and 2mm off the plate on the rear axe.
The plate just gives you a bit extra strength on the beam.
Silly question but does running rear discs maybe bring the overall width of the beam down or up? It may be enough to gain a few mm if it reduces the width. You'd need some accurate way to measure it but it could be worth a try? Basicly is the mounting face to face on each side narrorer on a disc rear beam? I highly doubt that both setups are identical????
Royston
30-10-10, 06:03 PM
The plate just gives you a bit extra strength on the beam.
It also act as a spacer for longer bolts to get the correct "stretch" when torquing up the bolts to provide clamp load;) if the "Stretch" length of the bolt is reduced it may result in the joint becoming loose:eek: :eek:
Is it also classed as a safety critical assembly, i.e. if they come off so does the whole wheel/stub axle:eek:
I spent many years durability testing suspension components including twist beam axles, so please don't ignore me;)
The plate isn't there by accident, if it wasn't required it wouldn't be there:thumb:
Royston
30-10-10, 06:06 PM
Just as a side issue, I really like the wheels, but is it worth all this work/and possibly risking life and limb?:confused:
Sez he riding arond the countryside of just legal slickslol
If you want any additional advice drop me a line;)
is the plate going to mind being the other side on the beam then Royston ?
still havnt got the bumper off Rory yet, lol hopefully get it in the next week :thumb:
Royston
30-10-10, 06:11 PM
is the plate going to mind being the other side on the beam then Royston ?
No I would expect if to be OK, but need to have a look at the set up again, jus toff to troll through the pictureslol
I would be careful when removing the origonal plate, i.e. not to gouge or damage the parent material of the stub axle housing structure;)
Royston
30-10-10, 06:21 PM
Just been looking at Colins pics (I spied an axle pic there)
Origonally the plate will have been welded to the spindle housing and then machined to achieve the correct Camber/toe angle, you will have to look as how you achieve maintain/this!
It will also be difficult to get good welds inside the housing, will need to be tagged into place effectively.
NOV4_SPORT
30-10-10, 11:42 PM
love the wheels, it will be worth all the hastle in the long run mate :thumb:
iain
I've been busy doing stuff to the engine bay over last few weeks, refubed the throttle linkage, got my injectors back from being cleaned, quick coat of U-pol gray, fitted them and the fuel rail, dizzy, cap, coil plus a few more bits.
Also got a Sparco brace off Nick J that he painted gray, which matches the stuff iv painted gray.
Few pics;
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/SAM_0728.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/SAM_0727.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/SAM_0729.jpg
Still a few things to do but its getting close to being able to start, which makes Edd happy lol
Black, grey and silver combo looks excellent
vaughanmc
01-11-10, 05:43 PM
Looks lovely Edd :)
scott.parker
01-11-10, 05:47 PM
Looks f'ing awesome mate!
To the untrained eye it looks all standard too..
Scott
very neat and tidy mate.top drawer!
Thank you very much for the positive comments everyone, much appreciated:)
Glad everybody is liking it so far
Should have another update in next few days
Top notch work Edd, but how do you get the time? Your always online here lol
ben doodar
01-11-10, 07:02 PM
Looks funking stunning edd. Is the header tank and brake fluid resiviour brand new or have you managed to clean them with something. Would really like a brand new header tank!!
NOV4_SPORT
01-11-10, 07:19 PM
Me likey edd :)
iain
Looks funking stunning edd. Is the header tank and brake fluid resiviour brand new or have you managed to clean them with something. Would really like a brand new header tank!!
Cheers, Both are brand new, had the brake one a few years, header tanks are NLS at Vauxhall, I stumbled across a load that LMF had listed as a Lotus header tank on eBay, maybe try their website as they were on there.
danderv
01-11-10, 07:49 PM
Looks very nice edd :thumb: What silicone hoses are they mate and are they for a sport as iirc there is one that is different on the sports?
Engine bay looks great Edd..... glad the brace works with everything else you have done etc.
Nick.
Edd it may just be me but the stub axle plates were you doing both or just the one as doing both would surely make it near enough same as factory only with the extra clearance if that makes sence lol.
awesome build by the way mate credit to you sir.
Damo.
Looks very nice edd :thumb: What silicone hoses are they mate and are they for a sport as iirc there is one that is different on the sports?
There Roose motorsport ones, did have a few issue with the set I had but that was down to the injection system, I think there's another slight difference with carbs.
Nick, Benn, Si, Iain, everybody lol thanks very much.
Edd it may just be me but the stub axle plates were you doing both or just the one as doing both would surely make it near enough same as factory only with the extra clearance if that makes sence lol.
awesome build by the way mate credit to you sir.
Damo.
Cheers very much.
The way you've described is the best way of doing it IMO, ATM it looks too wide, iv done a bit to a spare beam, more on that in the next update.
Cheers very much.
The way you've described is the best way of doing it IMO, ATM it looks too wide, iv done a bit to a spare beam, more on that in the next update.
Looking forward to it edd.
Keep it up mate.
hartley
01-11-10, 08:27 PM
stunning mate
Nova_Tek
01-11-10, 08:31 PM
Engine bay looks sex mate. Exactly the colour scheme I was thinking of. Was the block painted in silver Hammerite?
:thumb:
Block is black hammerite, head and cam housing is VHT paint in silver, rest of the silver is hammerite.
Nova_Tek
01-11-10, 08:40 PM
Ahh right, didn't notice the block was black. Think black and silver are the two best colour for engines. Great work mate.
What strut brace is that?
Sparco mate, got it off Nick J, finish is awesome as you would expect from Nick.
Pistol Pete
01-11-10, 09:06 PM
Looking awesome. Coming together really well. Nice one.
Sounds a bit silly, but can you not get the Vernier powdercoated black or silver, just looks od being blue?
Does look superbly clean though, I like!
Cheers, I could but once the cover is on it won't been seen anyway.
Oh didnt realise you were running a cover...
ben doodar
01-11-10, 09:25 PM
Just being picky here edd but the strut tops could do with a coat of silver paint. lol but I'm sure you've allready got this in mind!!
bakerznova
01-11-10, 09:30 PM
engine bay looks spot on mate
:thumb:
Getting some alloy adjustable jobbies for there lol
Looks fantastic, is there any power gains using the Irmsher injection over 40s, and what power are you looking at?
I expect 100bhp ish, 150bhp, I hope when I put the 1300 turbo engine in that I have.
Thats bloody good, was expecting more like 85bhp
GRUNT 16V
02-11-10, 10:39 AM
looking great as always EDD !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Southie
02-11-10, 04:33 PM
Absolutely brilliant, really like the theme of the colours. Think the oil dipstick needs to be silver as well ;) oh this is me...
...
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/homer_drool.jpg
Tommy_nova
02-11-10, 04:45 PM
Loving the engine bay Edd great work mate thats stunning..
lol @ southie
Edd out of pure curiosity ( as I've never seen that injection system before ) what injectors are they? And what is the pressure and flow rate?
I know the GSI White ones are 155/min at 3 bar but those look cream,
no idea what they tbh lol
Irmscher injection uses cavalier 18E parts so expect there they same as those, do look alot like XE ones tho
A little tip if you need it Edd if you get some 4mm i.d. silicon hose it slides over the dip stick and makes it look a little better imo
If you can be bothered getting the part no ( if there Bosch ones ) I'll look it up, I'm just being too bloody nosey lol
If you can be bothered getting the part no ( if there Bosch ones ) I'll look it up, I'm just being too bloody nosey lol
number on the injectors is 0 280 150 208
A little tip if you need it Edd if you get some 4mm i.d. silicon hose it slides over the dip stick and makes it look a little better imo
cheers il look into it, have got one thats black, cant find it tho :(
Novasport
03-11-10, 08:15 PM
Injectors are the same as fitted to early BMW E30 & E21 6 cylinder 2.5 engines. My injection kit was missing the injectors, thats why I got it for £50 delivered from Germany :). Got six good injectors for free off a scrap E21 525 so I even had two spare!
* 0280150208 * 155cc/min @ 3 bar * 16.2ohms
or 133cc/min @ 2.5 bar ( 36.25 psi)
just FYI :)
not sure on what anti roll bar/tie bar set up to go for ?
got a SR set up and the thicker GTE set up, is the GTE going to make that much difference ? or just stick with the SR stuff ?
novadose2009
06-11-10, 11:52 PM
good work EDD really like ur wheels, what are they, what diamentions are they also?
keep it up
davidfox280585
07-11-10, 12:10 AM
first time ive read this and all i can say edd is awesome!!!!!!!
your a real man for detail wish i could be like you on the rs, i just look at stuff and go ahh well thats clean that will do
Wheels are OZ's from waaay back
7j wide 14's et 33 tho
Cheers David, iv ended up doing somethings 3 times over to make sure it's right lol
NOV4_SPORT
22-11-10, 12:05 PM
Any up dates matey.
iain
Any up dates matey.
iain
done a bit more, ill put some pics up over next few days, should be able to start it up very soon :d
got my house up forsale so not alot of funds atm :( new places has big garage tho :)
Danny s-p
22-11-10, 12:58 PM
looking good edd just had good look at it all
NOV4_SPORT
22-11-10, 05:33 PM
Nice one, i bet the size of the garage was high on the spec list when looking for a new house lol.
iain
scorge01
22-11-10, 06:38 PM
that engine bay is mint mate keep up the good work:thumb:
have to say edd, that car is epic. nice one.
Thank you very much
Always nice to hear positive comments
novacabrio
24-11-10, 10:55 PM
Can I give you some negative comments? lol Hurry up and get pic whoring!!
comptoncj
01-12-10, 10:49 PM
Edd where are these pics u said about last week? lol
NOV4_SPORT
02-12-10, 09:12 AM
Pics Pics Pics lol
iain
Edd where are these pics u said about last week? lol
tooo cold atm, havnt even opened the garage for a week or so
been collection parts tho :d
pics soon, promise lol
dj_wudgey
02-12-10, 01:19 PM
I've been busy doing stuff to the engine bay over last few weeks, refubed the throttle linkage, got my injectors back from being cleaned, quick coat of U-pol gray, fitted them and the fuel rail, dizzy, cap, coil plus a few more bits.
Also got a Sparco brace off Nick J that he painted gray, which matches the stuff iv painted gray.
Few pics;
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/SAM_0728.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/SAM_0727.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/SAM_0729.jpg
Still a few things to do but its getting close to being able to start, which makes Edd happy lol
that bay looks f*cking awsome!!
bainyboy sr
02-12-10, 03:05 PM
that looks amazing bett it will be quick with the injection system, always wanted to see how one goes with that setup
A little update; lol
Been sorting the rear beam out,
To make my wheels not scrub the arches I,
cut the end plates off;
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/7b04fd92.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/040f6bc5.jpg
then took the beam to my mate who shot blasted in and welded the plate on the other side, I then painted it,
got all this for the rear end;
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/bb39369f.jpg
managed to sort genuine handbrake cables and shoes out as well because i not got on well with pattern ones
gave the rear brake back plates a clean up and some paint;
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/e3c58c98.jpg
how i left it today
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/21047e62.jpg
will finish putting it all together tomorrow after the drums are dry from some paint
also i have fitted the exhaust system with the red Sport backbox
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/480eb5b1.jpg
iv done lots more but cant get it outside for pics atm due to the rear end and constant rain lol
il have another update in a few days
Edd
pikey1986
12-01-11, 04:53 PM
finally an update lol
good work mate
ohhhhh thats just teasing us now lol, certainly looks nice and new, i guess the OCD helps lol
that is the sex, nom nom nom
ohhhhh thats just teasing us now lol, certainly looks nice and new, i guess the OCD helps lol
OCD has crept in lol more pics soon :thumb:
that is the sex, nom nom nom
cheers Martin lol
Count Vaux Alot
12-01-11, 05:12 PM
Looking good edd :)
Southie
12-01-11, 05:22 PM
Looking gooooood :cool:
Will the wheels scrub on the inside now Edd, or is there plenty of clearance?
Looking gooooood :cool:
Will the wheels scrub on the inside now Edd, or is there plenty of clearance?
no there's plenty of clearance, effectively gives me a et41 :)
Looking good edd :)
cheers James
Love the pic of everything brand new lined up for the beam! Looking awesome :)
scott.parker
12-01-11, 08:02 PM
Nice update mate, glad the beam mods worked out OK, i did wonder if it would work or not..
What springs you going for on it, coilovers for the fronts?
Scott
Nice update mate, glad the beam mods worked out OK, i did wonder if it would work or not..
What springs you going for on it, coilovers for the fronts?
Scott
Cheers, yeah beam is now all sorted
Eibach springs, yellow Bilstein shocks on the front, had them on my XE and they were awesome
Awesome mate! This is going to be one clean Sport!
scott.parker
12-01-11, 08:22 PM
Cheers, yeah beam is now all sorted
Eibach springs, yellow Bilstein shocks on the front, had them on my XE and they were awesome
Good choice! i was very surprised how well the black billys and apex springs transformed the 1.2!
Awesome mate! This is going to be one clean Sport!
Cheers mate, it will be as clean as I can get it with the skills/knowledge(or lack of lol)/space( again lack of lol) I have lol
My Dads not a Concours Cup winner so it won't be clean as one Sport :d
NOV4_SPORT
12-01-11, 09:39 PM
Looking very good edd, amazing detail.
iain
Looking very good edd, amazing detail.
iain
Thanks very much mate
Just wish it would stop raining lol
Good progress dude, re your beam, surely you need some kind of plate on the front side...
Cheers Benn
The plate I cut off is now welded to the other side so no strength had been lost from that area
Front side is flat so no probs there either, I happy with it all
waynes sri
14-01-11, 08:54 PM
wow mint isnt the word i guess it will stand you to a few bob when done but your one lucky guy lol
wow mint isnt the word i guess it will stand you to a few bob when done but your one lucky guy lol
i dread to think what the total cost will be lol :tard: lol
comptoncj
14-01-11, 09:21 PM
Well done Edd! keep it up
Cheers Benn
The plate I cut off is now welded to the other side so no strength had been lost from that area
Front side is flat so no probs there either, I happy with it all
I thought it did more that just strengthen it.
I thought it did more that just strengthen it.
the brake back plate just used to go up against it, now the plate is on the beam
its all good :thumb: lol
Well done Edd! keep it up
Cheers mate, im trying too lol
mk1mark
14-01-11, 10:08 PM
Coming along nicely Edd :thumb: ,must catch up need a chat about the power steering set up considering it for mine.
Coming along nicely Edd :thumb: ,must catch up need a chat about the power steering set up considering it for mine.
Cheers mate, il deffo try and catch up with you soon :thumb:
no real update but lol
after opinions please :)
these are my OZ alloys
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/01bd6488.jpg
thinking of getting these center caps for them
CLICKY (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250749265407&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
there the old design/logo from OZ so knida go,
but will it look too much ? :confused: plus don't want to leave the hole open
Edd
I think it would finish the wheels off nicely. Dont like the open hole showing.
kevster
17-01-11, 09:33 PM
I think the cap's would look fine on the wheels Edd , the finish on the wheels is amazing !! Nice build bud
dannymcc
17-01-11, 09:57 PM
Great work Edd, the underside and engine bay look really well :thumb:.
Southie
17-01-11, 10:12 PM
Not keen on the logo tbh but would look maybe better if your wanting the logo on with a silver background with the logo in black.
Love those wheels though, glad you've kept them :)
Cheers Kev Danny
Mmm still not sure about the center caps lol think I'll forget about them for a bit
Southie, with the car being White I did kind of think the caps would look ok
Southie
18-01-11, 09:32 AM
Well here you go Edd here's a couple of options to make your mind up. ;)
OPTION 1
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/EDDWheeloption1.jpg
OPTION 2 :d
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/EDDWheeloption2.jpg
OPTION 3
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/EDDWheeloption3.jpg
OPTION 4
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/EDDWheeloption4.jpg
.Nice one ! but lol
The centre caps in the link only fit the small center bore hole 56mm in diameter, not where the original metal plate is :thumb:
Southie
18-01-11, 09:45 AM
Nice one ! but lol
The centre caps in the link only fit the small center bore hole 56mm in diameter, not where the original metal plate is :thumb:
Well that's pointless then lol Have you the original caps to fill the COMPLETE :p HOLE
lol
What my idea or your 'shops ? :d
Thing is I prefer the wheels with the black center showing just wanted a cap to cover the center bore and stumbled across them lol
Southie
18-01-11, 10:33 AM
lol
What my idea or your 'shops ? :d
lol All of the above really.
the black looks better like that but it will probs look best being polished
scott.parker
18-01-11, 04:47 PM
pmsl i too thought it was the full cap not just a castle nut cover! lol
IMO i like the idea of getting some diamond cut full covers, maybe look to see if some Cesaro ones fit could be D'cut??
Scott
Got these ones but I'm not that keen on then tbh
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/6bf9d873.jpg
Plus there not as well finished as the rims
Southie
18-01-11, 04:58 PM
Put the covers on and get a black sticker made up of the OZ logo :)
scott.parker
18-01-11, 05:04 PM
Get them caps re-done as in d'cut etc, and see if you get a small recessed center done for the badges??
cuatrolatas
18-01-11, 05:43 PM
I think the centers looks good in black
Get the centers done to match the finish on the rim.
craig green
18-01-11, 06:46 PM
I like the 2nd photoshop down, though the logo is LARGE.
Matching the finish on the cap to the rim is easier said than done me-thinks. Good update though Ted.
Cambelt, battery & fire her up!
Southie
18-01-11, 06:48 PM
Craig I'm a numpty and miss read Edds post so my skills are wasted lol
craig green
18-01-11, 06:54 PM
Oh. That makes me a numpty aswell then!
I like the 2nd photoshop down, though the logo is LARGE.
Matching the finish on the cap to the rim is easier said than done me-thinks. Good update though Ted.
Cambelt, battery & fire her up!
Cheers mate, needs a little more than that to fire up lol getting close tho
The original caps appear to be a different grade of alloy so I doubt they'll polish up like the rims
The caps in the link only go over the center bore !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol lol lol lol
craig green
18-01-11, 07:00 PM
The easiest option is probably the small bore caps colour coded grey/black to the wheels then IMO. I prefer the open centres anyway.
Yeah me too, I don't really like the original caps tbh
The caps in the link are the right size have the old logo look good IMO so makes sense
first time ive ever read you wip matey! seen all the pictures but way to many commets to read the lot lol, how muc did the bilsteins set you back i want some :( looking fakin good though chap!
Cheers
Bilsteins cost me £450 for 4 shocks and springs
Novasport
18-01-11, 08:20 PM
Ouch, just to annoy you a little I paid £117.50 for a full set of new genuine Irmscher Bilsteins from Tom at Irmscher :)
Courtenay at £450 was the cheapest I could find them with springs included :(
Wish I'd phoned Irmscher now lol
Novasport
18-01-11, 09:06 PM
It was about 5 years ago, they had 3 sets but I could only afford one set at the time :(. Mark had the other 2 sets I think.
novacabrio
03-02-11, 11:30 PM
It was about 5 years ago, they had 3 sets but I could only afford one set at the time :(. Mark had the other 2 sets I think.
Was rude not to, I had 3 sets in total I think, and I paid £100 inc post and VAT lol :thumb: one set still here to use
Novasport
04-02-11, 12:17 AM
I have 2 sets now, bought a second set off Guy Wilson cheap :)
Anyways Mr Edd, where are the updates?
No updates ATM
Managed by chance to find a local powdercoaters, other place wanted over £100 to do a beam :eek:
Waiting to get back, tie bar mounts, tie bars, arb, diff + clutch cover plus some small bits
Also waiting for some driveshafts and alloy top mounts
Once I have all that I can assembly the front end and roll it outside for the first time in months and get some pics
Cheers, need to crack on with it as I've got our house up forsale and would like most of it done before someone buys it and I have to move
I've also dropped two Zender front spoilers out to my mate to be painted
Also given him a GTE boot spoiler to have painted as well, but not sure if to fit it or not ???
Think a GTE one will look good.
Novasport
06-02-11, 12:06 PM
GTE spoiler would look good as it wont stand out as much as a grey one.
More subtle.
A small update, would of been bigger but had grief will topmounts and clutch fitting lol
Got this lot back from the powdercoaters the other day
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/99393487.jpg
Also had a SR steel done in silver
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/113d310e.jpg
Thats it for now, hopefully be able to put all the front end back together over next few weeks
Still not got my Zender spoilers and GTE rear spoiler back from being painted but did win a Valeo clutch for 99p on ebay tho :d
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/a1fc909d.jpg
Thats about the only good thing to happen on the build lately :roll: lol
Edd
another update lol
following on from this >CLICKY< (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1806506#post1806506)
I AM NOW PISSED OFF WITH THE CASH GUZZLING,SPANISH ROT BOX !!!!!!!!
Very pissed off with it now :mad:, have to remove box, to fit clutch, might fit the other box :roll::tard::wtf:
krobinson
16-02-11, 04:19 PM
Why did you fit the engine and box if it needs a new clutch?
Bad times having to remove the box, :(
There is a clutch fitted but its not new, as i couldnt find a new one at the time of fitting the engine,as i ahve a small garage i needed to fit the engine as box to be able to have space to work round
Just thought id be able to replace it like i have in past times
krobinson
16-02-11, 06:09 PM
I'd just leave it then, if the clutch you fitted was decent, you may never have to replace it anyway :)
im in two minds what to do now :confused:
i know the millage on my spare box tho
wish id just fitted it in the first place
scott.parker
16-02-11, 06:28 PM
Edd mate it's always the way with Nova's TBF i would do as Keith said, but thats only as I'm lazy! lol then if it does slip/need replacing you can do it all on the spare box etc then just replace the lot complete, just an idea?
Scott
Now decided to fit the other box as I don't want the lingering thought of 'what the fook is that box' lol
After the driveshaft, then the top mount crap now gearbox stuff, think I'll leave it for a week before doing anymore :(
Did you say you had some epas pictures to put up Edd? Just picked mine up and want to get started but just doesn't look that easy, more help required please mate
I do have some I'll post them up when I find digi camera
The first thing you need to do is cut/drill spot welds out the lower standard column mount off the shell
Then cut the top bracket off the nova column
I'd leave the clutch in there. If then you wanna change it, lower the engine down and pop the box off.
Sure you need aslide hammer to get the shaft out...
yellowsrnova
01-03-11, 11:51 AM
you get your antiroll bar fitted yet ?
any pics soon ? :)
you get your antiroll bar fitted yet ?
any pics soon ? :)
There will be a update over next few days for sure
Got all new OE top mount bits now so it will go together at last
Valeo clutch has been fitted this morning, i really enjoyed splitting the engine and box :roll::(lol
scott.parker
01-03-11, 07:53 PM
Any info on where you got all the top mount bits, as i found them hard to get complete, and was not sure what parts i needed etc, so i just re-used mine on the mk when i put the billys on.
Scott
I got the lower spring seats with bearings, the small cup thing on the very top, and the top bush mount with the studs in from Vauxhall
I got a pair of Flo-Flex spring seats
Then the other spacer bits in-between the upper and lower bits I just used old ones as there's nothing to wear out on those bits, just cleaned them up and painted them
Tbh I really need to crack on with this as I've just sold our house and had a offer accepted on another, would really like most of it done before moving.
Got three weeks off work after next week so will have a good go at getting it running at least
Really need to find a new right side ATE caliper tho lol
yellowsrnova
02-03-11, 01:28 AM
i can't wait to see this car done :)
That makes two of us lol
Got that rear bumper you sent me link to, cheers for that :thumb:
yellowsrnova
02-03-11, 01:35 AM
well if i can find new one you'l be the 1st to know :)
what other bits you needing ?
front badge still ?
I think I have one sorted but always on the look out for one
Got most other bits now
piccys piccys :p
haha ive got some of mine up here finally
Looks good mate the engine looks spot on :thumb:
Update, but small lol
After the nightmare with the top mounts I got new GM stuff and some Flo-Flex spring seats
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/1cc491c1.jpg
Built it all up
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/e537c609.jpg
Fitted some Powerflex bushes to new bottom arms
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/bc7c5648.jpg
Had new bearings and hub all pressed together with painted steering knuckles
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/cc53bc5f.jpg
Tie bar mounts
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/7d5cf00d.jpg
Fitted it all together using new black high tensile bolts ans stainless nuts and washer, also built up the diveshafts I sorted out with new CV's,
excuse the mess tho lol and fook knows why the steering knuckles look red in places in the pics lol
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/691b8a89.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/631835f1.jpg
Then put brake discs and wheels on but the wheels stick out this far
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/3657bfd8.jpg
Are they going to catch ?
Now it can roll again I can get it outside for the first time in 4 months to work on it better and to take better pics as the last few updates have had crap pics tbh, at least when I move I will have more space to work on it, single garage with a foot either side sucks lol
Edd
woohooo pic's :p
Looks mint mate cant wait to paint everything up and new parts for mine aswell :)
Looking good mate, the wheels will be fine lol
Looks like you've had a second crimbo with all the new parts lol I love it proper job!
comptoncj
06-03-11, 11:30 PM
Great work Edd! Glad to see an update with pics!
Cheers for the comments everyone
4 more shifts and I'll have 3 weeks solid to work on it :)
Southie
07-03-11, 10:19 AM
Nice to see you've got over the burden of those front springs, they look very very nice and I want them lol
The rear wheels come out a fair bit don't they, it will look pretty damn high won't it, whats your plans then?
Looking forward to the mega update when your of skiving from work then lol
The rears now clear the arches so it could go mega low on the rear, think I'll chance it on the front, any sign or noise of it catching and I'll get my bodyshop mate to roll the front lips
Can't wait to get it outside, rear glass is in and both doors are built up
I reckon it's about 80% done :) just got the engine loom to make/lengthen then I can start it up
NOV4_SPORT
07-03-11, 06:00 PM
ooohhh looking good, cant wait to see the progress over the next few weeks matey.
iain
novacabrio
07-03-11, 08:02 PM
One bump on them springs to much and they'll hit the arch and dent the wing! They will rub Edd, your kidding your self if you think they may not.
Other than that, looks rather shabby lol
Yeah I know :(
Really not sure what to do about the wheels now ???
I knew I was taking a risk when I got them tbh
A mate who has a mk 1 Golf would take them off my hands but I really want them on there lol
Could fit alloy top mounts and adjustable bottom arms to try and pull them in abit ?????
The only other wheels I would want are the Irmscher wheels that come on Spiders but there very rare
Ahhhhhhhhh one step forward two back lol
Royston
07-03-11, 08:11 PM
Edd, I agree with Mark, 1st corner with lock on in a corner (when it moves under its own power;) ) will wreck the wings:eek: , it will need more than rolling
Southie
07-03-11, 08:19 PM
As your Sport is slightly different from the norm with additional extras how about saloon arches to make the wheels fit lol
I rather fist my own ass lol
I rather fist my own ass lol
lol lol lol
Looks great Edd!
Nick.
Southie
07-03-11, 08:29 PM
I rather fist my own ass lol
lol ouch, so when you fitting them then lol
Saloon arches are like driving a Ford, something you should NEVER EVER do
Southie
07-03-11, 08:35 PM
I'd rep (not rape wwwwmnnm) you for that statement but sadly I've spread the love recently for something, cannot remember what though lol
lol
I'm fooked ATM the moment as I've already modded the rear beam :(
Need to get hold of Craig and get them adjustable bottom arms off him to see what I can do
I've had, clutch, gearbox, top mounts and now wheels crap to deal with :mad:lol
I can see me not opening the garage door for a while again :(
Southie
07-03-11, 08:49 PM
Don't you dare give up :wtf: or I'll steal your pigeons lol
Royston
07-03-11, 08:55 PM
Edd,
Why not just get hold of some Vaux spec wheels for the moment, and if needed fit some wheel spacers to the rear if necessary;) .
You can at least then carry on with the build knowing nothing will catch and is useable:)
Keep at it don't pause now:thumb:
novacabrio
07-03-11, 09:02 PM
I have an early spec rear axle here if you want it?
Southie
07-03-11, 09:05 PM
I have an early spec rear axle here if you want it?
What's the difference, I'm being nieve here probably lol
Might need a beam not sure yet
I'll get the bottom arms and see what the crack is with them added with the top mounts I thinks
Not going to give up or pause at this stage, the Force is strong within me lol and I will crack right on with it over next few weeks
Southie
07-03-11, 09:15 PM
:manhug: for your willpower lol
I'll get out of your thread now because my chuntering is making it an untidy thread lol
novacabrio
07-03-11, 09:25 PM
What's the difference, I'm being nieve here probably lol
The hand brake linage is a slider on the beam, a better set up than the later style if you ask me
Southie
07-03-11, 09:29 PM
The hand brake linage is a slider on the beam, a better set up than the later style if you ask me
Never knew that they changed it, would explain why my handbrake is always keen and not sloppy.
Pistol Pete
07-03-11, 09:34 PM
Coming together nicely! Top job Edd.
scott.parker
07-03-11, 09:51 PM
Alloy top mounts, camber bolts, and adj bottom arms might do it, but what a faff fro some wheels! lol
All looks spanking though mate..
Is it the width of the wheels making the sit so far out? Or the off set?
Roll the lips and pull the arches by hand a bit.. That will give more clearance.
Can you get the inside of the wheel machined to give a better/highter off set?
brainsnova
07-03-11, 10:17 PM
Excellent build, keep up the great work :thumb:
craig green
07-03-11, 10:18 PM
It's the offset Ben. When I looked at them I figured you wouldnt really wanna machine any material from the inner mounting surface, maybe 2mm (tops). IMO the thickness of the casting from the base of a wheel bolt taper to the mounting surface isnt all that generous.
We'll have to get the adjustable TCA's from the other shell we have in storage & obv replace them so that remains mobile.
Definately stick some random rims on it to keep the build moving.
Nice one mate, I'll drop Spud a PM to arrange dropping round his to swap over the bottom arms, good job I still have all the old stuff that was on the Sport in the boot of the Seat lol
I need to pull the wheel in about 12mm for the wheels to clear the arches I reckon, I hoping there's that much adjustabity in the bottom arms
Lot of hassel for a set of wheels I agree, I like a challenge tho lol
LEWI007
08-03-11, 08:13 AM
Ive heard using stainless bolts on suspension etc.. is a bad idea because the material is too strong and when it comes under stress it would snap off, where if it was a mild steel bolt it would bend instead.
Anyone know anything about that ?
I've only used stainless nuts and washers, stainless bolts are a no no yeah, too brittle, I've used black high tensile bolts
If you move the lower arm in, And then try and get the top in the same amount (Maybe not 12mm overall, but more so if), wont you get the drive shafts bottoming out in the CVs?
Good point :( I hadn't thought about that tbh
But 10/12mm should be ok IMO
This is becoming a real headache, which is slowly pushing me towards giving up at these ET33 off set wheels :(
I think if you move the hub in 10/12mm, it will bottom out the CVs, Even though your not running it that low.
I know the wheels are nice and retro, But The more work you put into fitting these, the more it seems its not a great idea.
I'll have to have a good look at it all on the weekend
Got the alloy top mounts with me today at work, going to mill a bit off them for more adjustabilty
How do people run mega low then ? Surely if I'm bottoming out the CV's there stretching them ? lol
You have some adjustable lower arms to try it with? If so it's worth a go I guess, perhaps combined with a pull on the arch for a little more clearance?
Not convinced all this work messing with the geometry is worth it for some wheels though
Rest of it's looking very clean and nice tho
Edit: Make sure you don't forget to fit nuts on the track rod ends too!
ET33? funking hell! No wonder.
I'd go to a machinest see what they say about taking some off the inside of the wheels..
No major update yet but
:( think I'm going to have to give up on the ET33 wheels :(
Will get them on at a later date, will need a set of wings to make wider
Any suggestions on wheels ?
Or any forsale ?
Nearly finished the engine loom today.......
get some of these
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188275_10150103119113621_734348620_6565680_3955613 _n.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184990_10150109081428621_734348620_6620181_5508832 _n.jpg
buddy club p1s jap drift wheels look the biz i think would suit your car maybe a different colour?
Glad youve decided against the wheels, far too much hassle i think.
Any proper updates coming, cant be far off now?
scott.parker
16-03-11, 10:47 PM
whos is that blue let looks well nice?
edd best idia on the wheels mate
Danny s-p
16-03-11, 10:55 PM
get some of these
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188275_10150103119113621_734348620_6565680_3955613 _n.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184990_10150109081428621_734348620_6620181_5508832 _n.jpg
buddy club p1s jap drift wheels look the biz i think would suit your car maybe a different colour?how do you no bear mate
Novasport
16-03-11, 10:57 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220753946353&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
ET39 so not perfect but Speedline Safari's look the dog danglies.
Might be able to machine some off.
They are fitted to Toyota Starlet SR's
Novasport
16-03-11, 10:57 PM
how o u no bear mate
What :wtf:
Southie
16-03-11, 10:58 PM
how o u no bear mate
Danny :wtf: lol
Edd I want your wheels, but skint - i'd sacrifice my arches for those wheels, how many photoshops do you want :d
Danny s-p
16-03-11, 10:59 PM
What :wtf:that's a mate car i was ask how dose he no him
novalet2009
16-03-11, 11:17 PM
thats my nova?!" how have you got these pictures mate?
I'm mate's with you on face book mate from when i used to live in Chester-le-street
Southie
16-03-11, 11:21 PM
thats my nova?!" how have you got these pictures mate?
Get a build thread up, it looks very interesting.
get speedlines ...............
http://www.sovereignguild.org/gallery/d/1533-3/rolleyes_huge.gif?
I would fit a set of Speedline Chrono's but there well dear lol
After a set of Irmscher wheels that come on Spiders ideally
Glad youve decided against the wheels, far too much hassle i think.
Any proper updates coming, cant be far off now?
I should be able to start it up this week end, got loads of pics will do a massive update when it starts :)
Novasport
17-03-11, 02:26 PM
I would fit a set of Speedline Chrono's but there well dear lol
After a set of Irmscher wheels that come on Spiders ideally
Those Irmscher wheels have crap brake clearance. What about the Irmscher Spokes? Usually come up cheap on Ebay.de
That's them off the list then lol
I would also like a set of the Irmscher wheels that look like Astra gte champion wheels but again rare .......
Back to square one with the wheels lol
What are Irmscher Spokes ?
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