My version of a 4x4 nova that will get done!

[ste porter]

http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/cylhead/intakemanifold.htm

exsplanes it better than i can mate well worth a read

[Sloth]

i get it, its basically to stop it ramming all the air into 12 and 3 and making 4 run lean dependant on the feed side of the mani.

[ste porter]

you got it

[dj_wudgey]

i cant fooking wait to see this bad boy done!!

[trossnova]

awsome build thread mate, sorry to hear about the other car :(
this does inspire me to crack on with mine :P

[arjo]

verry nice
the bonnet on the nova,can you still buy them in the uk

[daverobson]

this is foookin awsome!!!

keep up the good work. cant wait to see the finished product!

[Balley]

Subscribed

[ste porter]

long awaited i know but as many of you know i have been very busy with work other peoples cars conversions and the extra work load that the add in tv has brought on its been pushed aside abit but i have done a few bits and collected a few more parts for it

rather than go through it i will just post some pics if anybody wants to know anything specific just ask


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[ste porter]

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[Connor]

Very impressive work Ste,
Keep it up :thumb:

[ste porter]

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[Mike]

Advert in TV? I miss something here ?

[draper]

those rear arches are shocking lol

[ste porter]

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[ste porter]

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the nos is ment for the nova but it has currently found its way into my cav turbo for the time beeing like so

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[ste porter]

Advert in TV? I miss something here ?

top right corner of my recent feature mate:thumb:


those rear arches are shocking lol

im presuming that was a joke and you dont seriously think there my arches lol

[Mazz]

Awesome welding skills :)

Awful camera skills :(

;)

[draper]

im presuming that was a joke and you dont seriously think there my arches lol

thank god for that :p

[ste porter]

Awesome welding skills :)

Awful camera skills :(

camera phone and last minute thought of bugger havent taken any pics to update my thread quick take some pics lol
i build cars not a photographer lol

[ste porter]

thank god for that :p

there my new inner arches when i put my new wider steel rear quaters on they will be cut back to required size and shape and welded to the inside of the outer arches mate
all in good time as they say

[Mike]

TV feature? Dont know dont by TV mag lol

[twin40s]

pucka skills mate and what ad in tv ?

[david dixon]

Its coming along nicely now, some good graft put in there!

David.

[burgo]

proper job dude, were you worried about it bending on the spit? lol

[ste porter]

proper job dude, were you worried about it bending on the spit? lol

i wanted to put it on a jig months and months ago but i was concerned that untill i got abit more structure in there that if it flexed and i started welding it while its flexed im screwed lol

to be honest it seems ok as it is at the min the ideal time would have been after the cage has gone in but i needed it over before then to put the structure in for part of the legs so its catch 22

one thing i will say though its going to make painting and sealing the underneath a dodle

[ben doodar]

very impressive.

[MattBrown]

i wanted to put it on a jig months and months ago but i was concerned that untill i got abit more structure in there that if it flexed and i started welding it while its flexed im screwed lol

to be honest it seems ok as it is at the min the ideal time would have been after the cage has gone in but i needed it over before then to put the structure in for part of the legs so its catch 22

one thing i will say though its going to make painting and sealing the underneath a dodle

The 2nd best tool in my garage the spit!

1st being engine crane :thumb:

Looks good as ever, need to crack on with it, get it done for the start of next year for the shows etc;)

[ste porter]

had 5 mins earlier so done abit more

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[ste porter]

drivers side chassis leg wasnt bad at all realy

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passenger side on the other hand is a different story but nothing i cant handle

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[ste porter]

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[Spudly]

Fcukin hell Ste you dont fcuk about do ya lol

Yeah lets just lop this bit out and see what happens, btw whats the let'd vec in for?

[Plug]

Cracking on with it again now mate :thumb:

was starting to think you had forgotten about it lol.

ready for pvs? :p

[ste porter]

Fcukin hell Ste you dont fcuk about do ya lol

Yeah lets just lop this bit out and see what happens, btw whats the let'd vec in for?

mehh looks better without the rotten bits lol all will be clear soon as to exactly why its all been loped off

[ste porter]

Cracking on with it again now mate :thumb:

was starting to think you had forgotten about it lol.

ready for pvs? :p


im not realy at full steam mate just spending 10 mins here 10 mins there between other jobs but i will be back in full swing again soon as for pvs it will be going

wheather it will be driverble or not im not sure but it will go at what ever stage its at

may even have an xe cobled in it to get it drivable for pvs if need be

[Plug]

Get on would be good to see this in the flesh :)

[ste porter]

whats the let'd vec in for?

heaters dont work ignition barrel wiring nackered wouldnt boost engine loom melted and needed replacing exhaust needed sorting turbo timer wiring in and fitting eml light wired in ect ect list goes on sorted now though its actualy a realy nice car to drive now

[Spudly]

Im thinking i can see already as to why all the front has gone from the nova tbf mate lol


And it sounds like youve had your hands full repairing someone elses shoddy handywork on the vectra :eek:

[ste porter]

Im thinking i can see already as to why all the front has gone from the nova tbf mate lol


And it sounds like youve had your hands full repairing someone elses shoddy handywork on the vectra :eek:


you proberly see half the story mate but not the whole book;)

the veccy was put together ok by someone who is ok with cars in general but not vauxhalls specificly if you get me and over a period of time its had more and more people look at it that have less and less idea untill it got to the point where its just done his head in and resulted in a car in desperate need and a loom on the verge of turning the car to a pile of ash!!!!

[scott.parker]

Thats a nice wee update! Are they old Roll cage parts?

One thing Ive never understood is how you go about sorting the gear linkage/selector position inside a car when converting to RWD/4WD, do you convert or get a box/linkage etc from RWD??

Scott

[Lee]

Front ends looking great Ste :)

[ste porter]

Thats a nice wee update! Are they old Roll cage parts?

One thing Ive never understood is how you go about sorting the gear linkage/selector position inside a car when converting to RWD/4WD, do you convert or get a box/linkage etc from RWD??

Scott


standard f28 parts normaly mate but in my case im going quife shifter direct to the box;)

cheers lee

another small update on its way in a min when the pics load

[Plug]

:) your getting alot of spare 10 mins these past couple of days

[ste porter]

also late getting home lol

[bazil]

also late getting home lol

must cut short your sexy time then lol
seriously cool build chief.

[ste porter]

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[ste porter]

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[ste porter]

must cut short your sexy time then lol
seriously cool build chief.


pmsl yeah a little but she loves me and understands ......................i think?......................i hope?

[Sloth]

glad your going spaceframe, makes sense...

[vaughanmc]

Some amount of work going into that - Will be some toy when it's done :)

[Edd]

Awesome stuff !

I'd love to have the skills to be able to do something like this

[Graeme]

Excellent work as always Ste

[pikey1986]

great work, i really wish i started reading this from the start as i cba to read through 28 pages with my super slow interweb connection lol

[Mike]

Looking good Ste :)

[krobinson]

Great work :-)

[Danb1987]

This would be my dream car! A fully work 4x4 nova.. Good luck matey awesome thread!

[burgo]

would u buy a decent camera ffs lol

[Balley]

Looking spot on :D

[Welsh Dan]

would u buy a decent camera ffs lol

+1

[draper]

looking good ste (minus the rear arches ;) lol ) would love a unit to be able to do something similar

[ste porter]

its my phone i never know when im going to be working on it so when i do usualy the only camera i have with me is my phone lol will get sorted though just for you burgo cause i luvs ya mwha pmsl lol lol lol lol

[ste porter]

done abit more added another brace in the rear and thrown abit of high build etch primer on the top of the rear subframe where it will be a pain to paint when the rear floors in

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[ste porter]

while that was drying i thought i would make a start on the front end

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[ste porter]

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and thats where i left it and went to get a chinese lol

[Danny s-p]

so what are you ding to the strut top then am getting confused lol

[ste porter]

the original strut top? binning it

[ste porter]

im going 50mm wider either side so i will have 100mm wider track so it will alow mw to use standard cav turbo shafts and joints

[Danny s-p]

cool so will you use cav hubs , bottom arm's and suspension to or nova ones

[ste porter]

i originaly planed to use 5 stud conversion hubs then i thought about using full cav legs but after a little more thought suspension options are limited due to design but im now looking down another route but more on that as i get there as i may change my mind again by then

[Edd]

That's some crazy shizzle !! lol

Do you have anything written down regarding a plan of action ? Or is it all from the mind ? lol

[ste porter]

i have alot of diagrams drawings notes ect of measurements from before i started but as for the fab work its been fairly fly by wire and for a good reason.

i had a good idea of what i was after and what i wanted to create ect but when you start chopping the more you chop the more everything you have to work with changes ect

my first plan was to keep most the original forward floor and to be honest i proberly could have if i wanted 200 horse and no more
the problem was that im aiming for silly power and crazy punishment in regards to the way it will be driven and to be honest when i choped the rear floor out i wasnt happy with the strength of what was left so i had a rethink.
thats where my plans that i drew up came from and thats what i have worked for obviously adapting ect as i go

i posted my original drawings early on and i think i have stuck fairly close to them realy



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[Edd]

Even more impressed tbh, didn't think I could be lol

I take it this is a keeper then ?
As your going wide track, have you considered buying the Sprint C wide arch kit that Colin/novarally has forsale ?

Something as special as this deserves a special kit like that :d

[ste porter]

Even more impressed tbh, didn't think I could be lol

I take it this is a keeper then ?
As your going wide track, have you considered buying the Sprint C wide arch kit that Colin/novarally has forsale ?

Something as special as this deserves a special kit like that :d


problem is mate i want steel rear arches so i can tie the steel inner arches to them with ease

i have an idea of where im going with it all and again your just gonna have to wait

[Danny s-p]

fook me that look's so good side on. that some skill's to be prod of mate

[bazil]

Got to be about 22% now lol,
seeing the front end like that would make me want to lower the engine with a dry sump and steel skid pan below it all,

[ste porter]

Got to be about 22% now lol,
seeing the front end like that would make me want to lower the engine with a dry sump and steel skid pan below it all,

you boys are in for a treat when you see the direction im going with the mounts

note they have been removed.........

[bazil]

I did see that, but though of propshaft hight, if it's not been fixed yet then goodie, still no point in trying to second guess what you'll do next lol,

[ste porter]

Got to be about 22% now lol,


updated:thumb:

[ste porter]

I did see that, but though of propshaft hight, if it's not been fixed yet then goodie, still no point in trying to second guess what you'll do next lol,

engines not going down as such but im not using the original mount locations mainly because i have a 4 inch inlet on my turbo which is going directly out the side of the front bumper and the exhaust is going straight out the passenger side of the front bumper followed by the wastegate screamer pipe

[Edd]

problem is mate i want steel rear arches so i can tie the steel inner arches to them with ease

i have an idea of where im going with it all and again your just gonna have to wait
Ahh see what your saying

Still going to have nova style arches tho yeah?

[ste porter]

defenatly going to be square and nova style not round but exactly how big and how im doing them im shady on the details at the min thats why i want to go have a measure up on them massive arches collin smith has

front arches will now be my new bonnet bumper grill and headlights all in one.......................... as i say more on that stuff as i get there

[Dervy]

this project is getting madder with every update, love that lol. cant wait to see it finished

[ste porter]

this project is getting madder with every update, love that lol. cant wait to see it finished

plan was to keep it simple and normal but its not a normal car so that went out the window a long time ago lol

[Sloth]

ste, will you be running short body coilovers on the front to get the strut height down? loks fantastic btw mate. oh and what colour is it going to be?

[ste porter]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/IMAG0045.jpg?t=1287012983


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[ste porter]

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[Danny s-p]

your weld's are mint good job ste

[Dervy]

is that black line the new position of the strut tops?

[ste porter]

is that black line the new position of the strut tops?

yes mate thats why the strut top hasnt been fitted yet as its got to be drilled and hole sawed

[Edd]

More awesome work !

Keep it up :thumb:

[NOV4_SPORT]

Wow, this is looking better every time I check back on the thread, keep it up mate.

Iain

[philip]

looking good matey, just a quick one though...how much wieght will you of saved or gained? some bits look a bit heavy thats all?

[Connor]

Top work that Ste

[ben doodar]

Top work that man. Looking forward to more progress!

[Southie]

Briilliant progress on this Ste as ever, question is can a car be too stiff though I'm not up on all my welding and stability but won't a car need a little flex or it will just fly off the road, just a question because I'm intrigued at how it will really handle ;)

[SR-Rally]

^^^^ I don't no much about all this sort stuff but do kit cars have much flex?as there space framed etc

[Southie]

I'm just curious though because how many spaceframed 4x4's are there, probably some supercars I suspect but not the length of a nova.

I'm not critising your build btw Ste, it's inspiring for everyone on here :thumb:

[MK999]

Briilliant progress on this Ste as ever, question is can a car be too stiff though I'm not up on all my welding and stability but won't a car need a little flex or it will just fly off the road, just a question because I'm intrigued at how it will really handle ;)

in a word, no, the stiffer it is the more you can work with the actual suspension geometry and it's movements, F1 cars are built with a tolerance of 4mm at the wheel centres under use, i.e up to around 7g under braking.

[Nickb]

Just flicked through your whole project looks smart mate!! Fair play to you keep it up!

[Southie]

I know what you mean but F1 cars are rwd and not 4wd so the drive from all 4 wheels will have to be very accurate or all 4 wheels will be fighting against the tarmac more due to the ridgity. Only car I can compare Stes nova too is a T16 205 but not sure if they were spaceframed.

Sorry if I sound like a numpty but just trying to get my head round it all.

[SR-Rally]

I'm just curious though because how many spaceframed 4x4's are there, probably some supercars I suspect but not the length of a nova.

I'm not critising your build btw Ste, it's inspiring for everyone on here :thumb:

I no where your coming from. And it's obvious your not critersizing ste :thumb:

I guess only time will tell whether it'l work or not :)

[MK999]

I know what you mean but F1 cars are rwd and not 4wd so the drive from all 4 wheels will have to be very accurate or all 4 wheels will be fighting against the tarmac more due to the ridgity. Only car I can compare Stes nova too is a T16 205 but not sure if they were spaceframed.

Sorry if I sound like a numpty but just trying to get my head round it all.

Same deal... the suspension should decide how hard/soft/grippy the setup is on a proper car, 2wd, 4wd, front rear or middle not how much like jelly the shell is.

[Deanosri]

I really can't wait to see the finished product! Good luck and good work so far, it should be awesome:thumb:

[JordyzNova]

wow this is an awsome car but all those steel bars . . . aren't they goin 2 make it heavy.

[R1CH]

wow this is an awsome car but all those steel bars . . . aren't they goin 2 make it heavy.

I've just had a quick read thru it all and thought similar, its fairly agricultural looking with all the box section, sure it'll all come together ok tho.
Take it theres a cage of some sort going in to tie it alltogether ?

[ste porter]

in regards to the weight i will take a pic later as i can happily and easily still lift the front of this with 1 arm to head hight i have stressed it time and time agin over various stages of the build i dont think you realise how light this is.

its holow box section with 3 mm wall thicknes on the large rear frame and its 2mm on the 25 x 25 not solid bar! a man at the back and a man at the front and this can now be lifted to head hight so hardly heavy

i think that alot of people realy underestimate how much i have removed steel wise. what you see on a nova floor plan is 1 skin and what i underestimated was the sheer number of skins in the floor ect.
in some parts the steel in the floor where about 5 skins come together is about 8 mm thick and an 8 mm steel plate in comparison to a length of box section is bloody heavy!
the best way for people to realise this is if you see it for yourself and anybody local is more than welcome

it will be heavy when complete in comparison to its former striped form but im estimating only by about 200kg. This will be mainly due to the adition of indipendant rear suspension set up, rear diff, prop, and transfer box

so yes when done it will be heavyer but in its current state i belive its proberly lighter to be honest

also dont forget the weight its gained will be better spread and more balanced across the car and the 4x4 will be making up for the massive traction loss isues i had in front wheel drive
so any disadvantages in regards to weight will be far out weighed by the gains and advantages made by the 4x4 system handling and the magic 500 hp mark im aiming for under the bonnet

[Dervy]

fair play mate :) to be fair any car with 500bhp and 4 wheel drive is guna be quick, but this thing is guna be bloody ballistic :)

[ste porter]

rigidity shouldnt be to much of an isue mate i hope lol

[stupot89]

just one thing steve no carpark fun in this one lol

[novacabrio]

Have you considered a fibreglass roof skin to save a little bit more weight? Also what about putting the sheat metal you have for the floor on the out side? Give it a flat floor effect as per super cars and F1 cars etc

[opelbuck2000]

brilliant work.......

[scott.parker]

brilliant work.......

Mate stop pointless spamming, you'll get banned..

[C612DNM]

Some seriously good work there Ste. I'm not convinced about the use of Cavalier/Calibra suspension as it's geometry isn't as good as the Nova. I remember the ads that said they had "Safety Understeer built in". You mean crap geometry!

I'm sure that you can re-work the front end to get shot of the inherent bump steer and over-zealous ackerman angle that plagues that chassis.
The Astra/Cavalier/Calibra steering rack height and connection half way up the strut is half of the problem, where the Nova's low rack and hub setup allows for a better "helm control".

If it were me, I would have used alloy for the floor - but steel for the prop tunnel. But then again, I'm always looking for some weight saving!! Ounces = seconds!!

Like the idea of 18" boots, it opens you up to some serious track rubber - that's where all of the development is these days. GT rubber is all 18".

Keep it up, I'm looking forward to the final result.

Now where's the guy with the spaceframe XE powered car gone - he's been very quiet lately.

[ste porter]

Some seriously good work there Ste. I'm not convinced about the use of Cavalier/Calibra suspension as it's geometry isn't as good as the Nova. I remember the ads that said they had "Safety Understeer built in". You mean crap geometry!

I'm sure that you can re-work the front end to get shot of the inherent bump steer and over-zealous ackerman angle that plagues that chassis.
The Astra/Cavalier/Calibra steering rack height and connection half way up the strut is half of the problem, where the Nova's low rack and hub setup allows for a better "helm control".

If it were me, I would have used alloy for the floor - but steel for the prop tunnel. But then again, I'm always looking for some weight saving!! Ounces = seconds!!

Like the idea of 18" boots, it opens you up to some serious track rubber - that's where all of the development is these days. GT rubber is all 18".

Keep it up, I'm looking forward to the final result.

Now where's the guy with the spaceframe XE powered car gone - he's been very quiet lately.


for an iva mate an ally floor ment a pot rivet every 40mm and i didnt fancy turning my floor framework into swiss cheese
the understeer built in is due to the active 4x4 not the indipendant rear as such.
when you brake the 4x4 disengages and causes you to enter a bend in basicly front wheel drive which in turn causes understeer
the rear suspension with camber adjustment bushes fitted to both mounting points on the rear arm adds massive levels of adjustment in all directions and aspects

also im locking the box so it will be permenant 4x4 and upping the torque bias in the viscous coupling so upto 350lbs per foot of torque its promenently rear wheel drive the further above that fiqure the more thats sent to the front

[ste porter]

ok just to settle all those with weight concerns
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/?action=view&current=VIDEO0089.mp4
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/?action=view&current=VIDEO0089.mp4])

[ste porter]

and abit more done


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/IMAG0067.jpg?t=1287274302


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[ste porter]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/IMAG0081.jpg?t=1287274371


more proof its realy not as heavy as alot seem to think

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/IMAG0088.jpg (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/)



trial fitting to make my new drivers side mount

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[bazil]

lol, weight IMO isn't an issue,
as I've said before in this thread, my S3 is 1450kg with only 210 bhp yet it does 0-62 mph in 6.5 and on to 150 mph,

500+bhp in a car that may weigh less that 1000kg will be insane lol

infact I can't think of any production car that will weigh the same and has as much power?

FFS an Audi R8 V8 weighs more and has less power than your target Ste.

[ste porter]

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base plate made for my new mount


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[ste porter]

lol, weight IMO isn't an issue,
as I've said before in this thread, my S3 is 1450kg with only 210 bhp yet it does 0-62 mph in 6.5 and on to 150 mph,

500+bhp in a car that may weigh less that 1000kg will be insane lol

infact I can't think of any production car that will weigh the same and has as much power?

FFS an Audi R8 V8 weighs more and has less power than your target Ste.


i completly agree mate but theres alot that dont also what i keep stressing but nobody seems to take any notice is that the weight balence is going to be alot more even than what any striped nova could ever dream of other than dumping quater of a ton of lead in the boot

[bazil]

This is a stupid question mate but with the locked transfer box is it posable to run RWD only? Or say bias the power to the rear ie 70-30 split?
( this isn't a suggestion but a question as you are up to speed and I'm not)

[SR-Rally]

ok just to settle all those with weight concerns
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/?action=view&current=VIDEO0089.mp4
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/?action=view&current=VIDEO0089.mp4])

had to lift a completely bare shell the other day, and it was not as easy as that :thumb: it will be the nuts

[ste porter]

This is a stupid question mate but with the locked transfer box is it posable to run RWD only? Or say bias the power to the rear ie 70-30 split?
( this isn't a suggestion but a question as you are up to speed and I'm not)

no mate the locked part in the box is the 4 wheel drive engagment its normaly controled by a clutch system run of the power steering and controled by its own ecu

im bining this like i have in my cav turbo and replacing the clutch system with locking rings so its permenant 4x4

the power split is goverened by a viscous couplin and basicly its a load of plates very close together emersed in a synthetic fluid the hotter the fluid get the thicker it becomes. The thicker it becomes the more friction is created and the more the discs bind which inturn sends more power to the rear

what alot of people dont know aswell is that the rear diff is actualy a slightly different ratio to the final drive in an f28 deliberatly to cause this to heat up

problem is if it gets to hot the discs break down and the coupling goes bang which is why they have temp senders as standard so if it gets to hot it disengages the 4x4 to protect the box

problem is im locking mine so i wont be able to do that but what i am doing is fitting a thermostat controled oil cooler so at a certain temp it will switch on an electric pump and circulate the oil through a cooler to keep the oil at a desired temp
this is also why i have decided to put my hand in my pocket and buy a qrew transfer box aswell

[Spudly]

problem is im locking mine so i wont be able to do that but what i am doing is fitting a thermostat controled oil cooler so at a certain temp it will switch on an electric pump and circulate the oil through a cooler to keep the oil at a desired temp
this is also why i have decided to put my hand in my pocket and buy a qrew transfer box aswell





You fcuking clever lad, i knew you gots brains in your bonce but seriously thats some clever thinking dude:thumb:

[JordyzNova]

in regards to the weight i will take a pic later as i can happily and easily still lift the front of this with 1 arm to head hight i have stressed it time and time agin over various stages of the build i dont think you realise how light this is.

its holow box section with 3 mm wall thicknes on the large rear frame and its 2mm on the 25 x 25 not solid bar! a man at the back and a man at the front and this can now be lifted to head hight so hardly heavy

i think that alot of people realy underestimate how much i have removed steel wise. what you see on a nova floor plan is 1 skin and what i underestimated was the sheer number of skins in the floor ect.
in some parts the steel in the floor where about 5 skins come together is about 8 mm thick and an 8 mm steel plate in comparison to a length of box section is bloody heavy!
the best way for people to realise this is if you see it for yourself and anybody local is more than welcome

it will be heavy when complete in comparison to its former striped form but im estimating only by about 200kg. This will be mainly due to the adition of indipendant rear suspension set up, rear diff, prop, and transfer box

so yes when done it will be heavyer but in its current state i belive its proberly lighter to be honest

also dont forget the weight its gained will be better spread and more balanced across the car and the 4x4 will be making up for the massive traction loss isues i had in front wheel drive
so any disadvantages in regards to weight will be far out weighed by the gains and advantages made by the 4x4 system handling and the magic 500 hp mark im aiming for under the bonnet



you should be called the nova doctor :thumb:

[Balley]

Incredible Building there, really can't wait to see this thing go!

[burgo]

ste is it possible to make a mount which goes to both the front crossmember and chassis leg?? im just thinking it will be incredibly strong and stop the engine trying to twist itself out of the shell

[ste porter]

ste is it possible to make a mount which goes to both the front crossmember and chassis leg?? im just thinking it will be incredibly strong and stop the engine trying to twist itself out of the shell

thats what im looking at doing mate hence why im going of the lower set of holes on the block and i will then fit a stabiliser near the top at the rear to prevent rock

[burgo]

thats what im looking at doing mate hence why im going of the lower set of holes on the block and i will then fit a stabiliser near the top at the rear to prevent rockthought so :d, will be pucka

[ste porter]

mount nearly done

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/porter/IMAG0124.jpg?t=1287358543


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[ste porter]

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[ste porter]

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when its on its solid which im real pleased with just got to get the chassis brackets fully welded on tomorow
also got to finish welding the mount its self together add a webing between the 2 bits of box and shape it

need to get a pair of poly bushes for a cav or astra for it as the bushes are from a pair of old cavalier arms so i can of the shelf poly bush them which is a bonus

[stupot89]

steve you really are a clever man keep up the good work

[Mieran]

Very, very impressed.

Looking forward to seeing it finished

[gazz]

ste your skills are brilliant..

subscribed:thumb:

[R1CH]

What was the reason for the lower engine mount ? Had problems with the origional position in the past ?
Is there a cage going in ? If so, how come you didn't install the front 1/2 of the cage then build the rear of the car (subframe mounts / shock mounts ect ...) as an integral part of the cage ?
Not trying to sound negative at all, just interested as to how / why you've gone about things the way you have, top project, sure it'll all come together well.

[scott.parker]

Very impressive Steve, i like the look of that turret, and the curved brace better then i was expecting! cant wait to see it progress.

Scott

[ste porter]

What was the reason for the lower engine mount ? Had problems with the origional position in the past ?
Is there a cage going in ? If so, how come you didn't install the front 1/2 of the cage then build the rear of the car (subframe mounts / shock mounts ect ...) as an integral part of the cage ?
Not trying to sound negative at all, just interested as to how / why you've gone about things the way you have, top project, sure it'll all come together well.

lower engine mount was to solve turbo clearance issues mate that was all
as for cage yes theres a monster of a cage going in reason beeing is im working from what may aswell be a large garden shed with little or no access to industrial machinery such as pipe benders mills lathes cnc's ect. everything you see has been me a grinder welder and drill and little more.

Its far easier for me to work with box section ect than what it is tube so thats why its been done like that mate for ease of working with it more than anything else
please remember im a lorry driver not a cnc machine operator that can just nip to work and cut mill lazer turn what ever i need everything is done the hard way by hand

far easier to measure cut work ect with box than tube when you have limited tools available

my cage i will sort the angles ect and run my pipe up to an engineering place about 20 miles from me and get him to put the main bends in it other than that it will all be notched with a grinder no fancy 100 quid tube notchers here unfortunatly

[Sloth]

you've put on a bit of weight in one of them pics rofl!

all looks good, whats the eta? and what colour will it be? nordic blue? lol

[ste porter]

you've put on a bit of weight in one of them pics rofl!

all looks good, whats the eta? and what colour will it be? nordic blue? lol


sod of thats my mate dom who pops over most nights to lend a mincing hand

[maddogdaz666]

looking awesome mate, wish i had ur welding skills and a unit, im getting fed up of the driveway and so is my ma n pa!! lol
bet ur getting pi££ed off at everyone moaning about the weight etc.
keep it up i cant wait to see it completed!!!!!

[The Simps]

Loving your work Ste. Know what you mean about working with limited tools/equipment. Makes planning things out ven more difficult.

[Damo]

Good work and great fab skills ste nice one carnt wait for the next update.:thumb:

[tb16v]

Some nice fabrication work there, very nice mate

[R1CH]

looking awesome mate, wish i had ur welding skills and a unit, im getting fed up of the driveway and so is my ma n pa!! lol
bet ur getting pi££ed off at everyone moaning about the weight etc.
keep it up i cant wait to see it completed!!!!!

Its not folk moaning about stuff, its just that their asking questions about the way things have been done and the reasons he's done them, what seems obvious to one person might not be very obvious to another, its good to see a few answers on whats been done so far, i admit that a few questions might come across abit negative but i know i'd rather read a few questions and get some genuine answers rather than the usual posts by folk ... 'dis iz gonna be da best Nova eva' 'your da best welda eva' ect ... !! lol
Theres not many folk have access to all the gear, and alot of folk can do a hell of a lot with a grinder and welder, i'm sure he's thought it all thru but you never know, a few folk questioning him might help him along the way with a few things.
:thumb:

[ste porter]

Its not folk moaning about stuff, its just that their asking questions about the way things have been done and the reasons he's done them, what seems obvious to one person might not be very obvious to another, its good to see a few answers on whats been done so far, i admit that a few questions might come across abit negative but i know i'd rather read a few questions and get some genuine answers rather than the usual posts by folk ... 'dis iz gonna be da best Nova eva' 'your da best welda eva' ect ... !! lol
Theres not many folk have access to all the gear, and alot of folk can do a hell of a lot with a grinder and welder, i'm sure he's thought it all thru but you never know, a few folk questioning him might help him along the way with a few things.
:thumb:

very true mate

[ste porter]

not much of an update but then again i dont realise myself sometimes just how long the simplest of jobs takes
That said aswell though its alot to do with " sod it that will do" doesnt do i take forevever to get things marked out so im happy and even then i end up doing it more than once usualy lol any way just to bring you up to date


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in the next few pics you can see a patch where i patched the chassis leg up about 3 years ago when i first got it problem is it made it a pain in the backside to get my measure ments and to work from but got there in the end




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[bazil]

I think you need to step away from the proplus and coffee mate lol
do you ever sleep?

I like the approach to the engine mount, rather that just holding the engine up it also stabilizes it ( my spelling is poor :( )

[ste porter]

I think you need to step away from the proplus and coffee mate lol
do you ever sleep?

I like the approach to the engine mount, rather that just holding the engine up it also stabilizes it ( my spelling is poor :( )

sleeps for normal people i just rest when my body say no more lol

in regards to the mount it was another case of now i have the forward facing part on do i add another part or not do i dont i ? yeah sod it everything else is over engineered why not lol

theres one important thing about the build and its always the first thing and the last thing on my mind with every last bit of the build

ok that will do the job at 200 bhp and ocasional blasts
but will it be reliable again and again and again at 500 poneys and nothing but constant hammering.
If the anwser is no then it either gets done again or beefed up until im happy!

when this thing is dead and rotting i want what i have added to still be in one piece long after the original nova shell has rotted from under it!

mate of mine has hit the nail on the head realy

designed like a volvo built like a westfield and going to get driven like a nova!

[c20tbo]

Its not folk moaning about stuff, its just that their asking questions about the way things have been done and the reasons he's done them, what seems obvious to one person might not be very obvious to another, its good to see a few answers on whats been done so far, i admit that a few questions might come across abit negative but i know i'd rather read a few questions and get some genuine answers rather than the usual posts by folk ... 'dis iz gonna be da best Nova eva' 'your da best welda eva' ect ... !! lol
Theres not many folk have access to all the gear, and alot of folk can do a hell of a lot with a grinder and welder, i'm sure he's thought it all thru but you never know, a few folk questioning him might help him along the way with a few things.
:thumb:


Took the words right out of my mouth.

Credit to the guy for having ago, very interested in seeing the finished product.:thumb:

[Danny s-p]

looking good ste. are you plating the under side or just leaving the bar's showing if you get me

[Dervy]

yea ok ste we get it, your a good welder, no need to keep showing off lol just kidding mate :), i love welding proper metal like that, looks great cant wait to see it finished, keep up the good work feller

[Longdogcharlie]

Hi Steve
How are you getting on with the 4x4 nova, I have been building one for the last 10years from a nova sport I bout when I was a kid. Am finally getting paint on it this weekend. all the welding done finished shell blasted and primed,
I guess about another year and it should be good to go..

I am looking for some very early nova bumpers (sport type) for it, any ideas where i can get some??

[tony k]

looking good ste,some cracking work going on,will be one quality nova when done,keep up the good work,will be keeping a good eye on this

[Plug]

Hi Steve
How are you getting on with the 4x4 nova, I have been building one for the last 10years from a nova sport I bout when I was a kid. Am finally getting paint on it this weekend. all the welding done finished shell blasted and primed,
I guess about another year and it should be good to go..

I am looking for some very early nova bumpers (sport type) for it, any ideas where i can get some??

Get some pics up mate :)

Cracking on again ste :p not far off haha

[maddogdaz666]

Its not folk moaning about stuff, its just that their asking questions about the way things have been done and the reasons he's done them, what seems obvious to one person might not be very obvious to another, its good to see a few answers on whats been done so far, i admit that a few questions might come across abit negative but i know i'd rather read a few questions and get some genuine answers rather than the usual posts by folk ... 'dis iz gonna be da best Nova eva' 'your da best welda eva' ect ... !! lol
Theres not many folk have access to all the gear, and alot of folk can do a hell of a lot with a grinder and welder, i'm sure he's thought it all thru but you never know, a few folk questioning him might help him along the way with a few things.
:thumb:

sorry i do know theyre not being negative, and i know theyre only trying to help, just the same question keeps getting repeated, if they all read the thread they wouldnt have to ask again and again.

brilliant work still, and im enjoying following this thread! its the one i always look out for!

Darrel.

[chrisnovaturbo]

designed like a volvo built like a westfield and going to get driven like a nova![/quote]

lol

[ste porter]

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[K24_STE]

Very impressive some fabrication skills gone into this will be good to see complete! :thumb:

[burgo]

i like how to the un trained eye it doesnt look overly different even though there is pretty much fack all left of the nova

[vaughanmc]

Looks good Ste :)

[Southie]

Have you insomnia Ste lol As ever your works outstanding, love it but feel sorry for Claire as she must be lacking some loving lol

[ste porter]

i like how to the un trained eye it doesnt look overly different even though there is pretty much fack all left of the nova

thats very true i even look at the pics and sometimes think i have just re created what i already had lol but 3 times stronger brand new and the way they should have done it

[ste porter]

Have you insomnia Ste lol As ever your works outstanding, love it but feel sorry for Claire as she must be lacking some loving lol


pmsl dont give her an exscuse to moan besides shes on the ban stick at the minute lol

[paul james]

Looking at your pictures makes me embarassed about my frankentsein like welding skills. Top skills on display indeed.

[Mieran]

how come you welded the plate on without making the hole for top mounts?

are you going to drill it while its on the car?

[ste porter]

how come you welded the plate on without making the hole for top mounts?

are you going to drill it while its on the car?

3 reasons

a) if i drill that plate so it works out to the car and then weld it in and its wrong or moved in relation to the the other strut im nackered

b) if the turet is a few mm out bent ect over the 20 od years its had abuse and hammer and i make it the same way i did the other side when i fit it it will be wrong again

c) i have had a complete change of plan in the way in which my top mounts are going to be mounted and they may require completly different shape holes and mounting points so if i leave that one for now i have only got one side i have got to try and change to suit

[ste porter]

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[MK999]

tbh for what that is, I'd get some plates of varying geometry made up by an engineering place etc. I have an issue with any adjustment made like that, in it's possible to slip, which although fixable with serrations is always a risk regardless. The worst aspect imo, is you will never set that exactly correct on both sides down to 0.x of a mm like you can with a plate you KNOW is of the correct dimensions and tolerance.

[ste porter]

tbh for what that is, I'd get some plates of varying geometry made up by an engineering place etc. I have an issue with any adjustment made like that, in it's possible to slip, which although fixable with serrations is always a risk regardless. The worst aspect imo, is you will never set that exactly correct on both sides down to 0.x of a mm like you can with a plate you KNOW is of the correct dimensions and tolerance.

Thats the whole point of using top mounts of 360 degree alignment mate
when its done take it to lovels body shop i want that lazer aligning ect please
thank you very much

it doesnt matter if one side needs to be at max adjustment one way while the other is near central to make it run and drive straight and true

thing you forget mate is were not talking about a brand new shell built from tollerences of a few tho of a mill were talking about a 20 year old shell thats had 3 diferent engines been hammered to hell bounced of kerbs rotted and had various repairs
its ok having precision made plates that are fixed position and alow no adjustment but if there welded into the legs in exact symetrical positions and you take it up the road and find that over time the legs have moved theres nothing you can do

i have taken every care and measurement i can to ensure the legs are exact but as i found when i measured up before i started the passenger leg was already out from where it should have been by 8mm! and thats alot in terms of degrees in geometry at the wheels

[Andy_L]

Ste,

Just finished reading the whole thread, really interesting even though I haven't the foggiest about most of the stuff.

Are you going to have the front end as a one piece mould?

How many hours are you up to now on the clock?

Is there somewhere I can put my name down for a passenger ride?

What is so special about the Qrew transfer box - I remember something about it from a couple of years a go but can't find the link.

Epic :thumb:

[ste porter]

Ste,

Just finished reading the whole thread, really interesting even though I haven't the foggiest about most of the stuff.

Are you going to have the front end as a one piece mould?

How many hours are you up to now on the clock?

Is there somewhere I can put my name down for a passenger ride?

What is so special about the Qrew transfer box - I remember something about it from a couple of years a go but can't find the link.

Epic :thumb:

Thanks for showing interest mate in fact that applys to everyone else aswell its the interest from you guys that keeps me on track and adament that im going to finish it

in regards to the front end and any parts of the project that i havent got to mate im going to keep to myself for now and its not for suspense or anything like that.
Reason beeing is because i have all these ideas and when i get there somethings not exactly how i planed it so things change all the time for one reason or another so rather than build everyone up for no reason would rather reveal it all as and when its happened

Hours wise to be honest not as long as you think i would estimate about 150 hours not much more than that. when i have a day on it i only usualy get about 6 hours on it so thats about 25 days at 6 hours
obviously its not always 6 hours sometimes 2 other days 8 but average about 6 hours mate


passenger rides are 15 pounds up front now and non returnable in the even of non completion or death in testing stages lol

qrew boxes are complicated mate best way of putting it is the weakest parts are replaced with stronger items which make the boxs alot stronger more reliable and biase more power to the rear

[AlanH]

qrew boxes are complicated mate best way of putting it is the weakest parts are replaced with stronger items which make the boxs alot stronger more reliable and biase more power to the rear
more power to the rear? thats gonna be interesting to watch with your 'unique' driving style lol top work mate, cant wait to see this finished

[Balley]

Put me down for a ride in it :)

[burgo]

ste i think you misunderstand mark, or maybe not and ive come up with another idea lol.

i understand he meant that you can have a number of different plates made up which give you certain different geometry set ups. say you want different camber you just bolt in a different plate.

ultimately a lush solution, alot of work involved though

[SR-Rally]

Wouldn't that be alot of hasle? when you Want to change geometre you'd have to work out which plate to use etc. Doesn't an adjustable top mount let you change camber and geometre without changing anything, you just re adjust to where ever suits?

I'm probable wrong as still learning :)

[MK999]

ste i think you misunderstand mark, or maybe not and ive come up with another idea lol.

i understand he meant that you can have a number of different plates made up which give you certain different geometry set ups. say you want different camber you just bolt in a different plate.

ultimately a lush solution, alot of work involved though

Exactly that... how all the adjustment is designed on simps, doesn't even have to be a lot of work if you do it right.

Ste is saying he can't work with original dimensions etc though, as it will all be slightly out.

[Sloth]

ste, paypal for moneez for a ride please cheif!

[burgo]

Wouldn't that be alot of hasle? when you Want to change geometre you'd have to work out which plate to use etc. Doesn't an adjustable top mount let you change camber and geometre without changing anything, you just re adjust to where ever suits?

I'm probable wrong as still learning :)have you ever done four wheel alignment on a car? takes at least an hour and then the adjust-ability can still slip.

each of the plates would be stamped as to what geometry it gives then is a simple case of swapping them which could be made easy and quick if designed right

[SR-Rally]

have you ever done four wheel alignment on a car? takes at least an hour and then the adjust-ability can still slip.

no I never have.


each of the plates would be stamped as to what geometry it gives then is a simple case of swapping them which could be made easy and quick if designed right

I see what you mean, just alot of work to begin with but after that should be pretty straight forward to set up / adjust :thumb:

[MK999]

I see what you mean, just alot of work to begin with but after that should be pretty straight forward to set up / adjust :thumb:

It's not, because you don't measure all the plates, just calculate it, start off with a set size, measure the geometry, rest can be worked out from the lengths of struts etc.

[Adam]

Top weldage!!!

[ste porter]

i see what your saying guys but basicly all it will end up in is an adjustable top mount again will it not? difference is to set it up instead of moving it where you want it and locking it off you would have to check it dismantle half the suspension and reasemble and check again ect seems like a pain in the **** in comparison to using these top mounts

pluss fixed mounts are ideal if you can guarentee both sides are exactly symetrical to within half a mm and i cant so to identical plates could give different geometry from side to side even though the plates are exact. hense again the beuty of these you dont set them up so there in the same positions you adjust them untill your geometry is perfect compensates for any design intollerences so to speak

again like i say please dont forget although they look new ect the legs are designed to be in the same places and are only as exact as what the rotten legs were! like i say i know its not the best way to correct it but they are the easiest way on this project to ensure its geometry is bang on and can compensate each wheel individualy for and screw up on the fabbing side of things

the type im looking at do exactly the same as what your talking about but can be adjusted ect as and when and can be adapted to lock using small roll pins once the geometry is set


i agree and if it was a precision designed chassis fabricated on the floor to amazing tollerances then i would defenatly prefer the idea of set plates but please dont be fooled my shell isnt at the end of it its still structured around a 20 year old spanish built nova!

[claire6069]

Have you insomnia Ste lol As ever your works outstanding, love it but feel sorry for Claire as she must be lacking some loving lol

lmao i would rep you southie but it says i need to spread some around before giving it to you again lol

[bmw156]

Ste, i think those adjustable plates are perfect.

seen plenty of touring cars with those type.

and mk999 they will never shift an inch as the pressure is all pushing upwards and not sliding left to right if that makes sense.

keep up the great work ste.

[Mike]

and mk999 they will never shift an inch as the pressure is all pushing upwards and not sliding left to right if that makes sense.

Until your doing some serious cornering speeds...

[MK999]

and mk999 they will never shift an inch as the pressure is all pushing upwards and not sliding left to right if that makes sense.

Pretty sure the people teaching me know what they're on about tbh.

Resolution of forces says otherwise too, if you want it in black and white.

[ste porter]

there will be alot of force acting on these mounts in all directions that is for sure but the point is are these forces going to be enough?
im going to try them any way as they apear to be the standard that all the d1 drift boys ect head towards and they dont report any major problems.

at worst say they do slip it means i got to move it back to where it was roughly and have it aligned again its not going to be the end of the world as im not going to use it every day as a shoping car

i like the input and i have taken on board your concerns guys but seriously i feel that this is going to be the easiest and best way to tackle the problem of alignment isues

and lets face it if over the whole project thats going to be my only concern im laughing dont you think

[Nova Baz]

any dates yet ste?

[ste porter]

finished the mounts the other week but just remembered i never posted the pics lol so this will bring you up to date


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and thats up to date mounts done just got a staibaliser rod to sort out for the back of the head to the top of the bulk head to sort and thats the mounts done

the nova is now covered over and in the back of the workshop for a few weeks while i get my cav turbo rebuilt if anybody is interested though i will get pics up of the cav refresh as im doing it to keep the thread going
also its going to be abit slow in progress at the min as i have tendanitous in my had wrist and lower arm which is causing problems but we will soldier on lol

[Damo]

Yea get pics up of the cav ste be good to see it spudly will be suscribed because it a turbo lol.

[ste porter]

Yea get pics up of the cav ste be good to see it spudly will be suscribed because it a turbo lol.

spuds been in it 3 days after i brought it and he was creaming his pants then

he also had a bee in his bonnet because i only payed 1200 quid for it and shes a minter lol

[Sloth]

he needs to buy the one i found for 700 minus the let and f28.

[The Simps]

You're at that stage Ste where I bet you spend just as much time standing back and admiring your work as you do doing the work! lol Keep it up!

[Connor]

Keep up the top work Ste :thumb:

[Dervy]

great to see the engine in there :) wont be long till shes purring away

[Spudly]

spuds been in it 3 days after i brought it and he was creaming his pants then

he also had a bee in his bonnet because i only payed 1200 quid for it and shes a minter lol



That is true but my cav thirst has been quenched a touch for now as youve seen my SRi yourself hehe:thumb:

[pie]

top work :thumb:


looks sweet fella

[ste porter]

first of how the nova currently sits and how it will be for the next 4-5 weeks

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and the reason to get my backside in gear and get it striped and rebuilt
for those of you that dont know this is what happens when your head goes porus
so for all those that get a bee in your bonnet and run for the hills when you see orange water in your header tank and think your heads porus think again.
This is what you get when your heads porus

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oh and a mystery hole i found in the gear box doesent mater as im changing the box as it crunches any way but never the less its interesting as i cant see why where or how the hell it was made

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and thats where im at all ready to hit the floor when in the morning

[bazil]

somebody put mayo in that engine instead of coolant lol

[Cle]

Nova is looking good :) really cant wait for more progress :thumb:

[mowgli]

that is probably the muckiest engine i've ever seen

[Spudly]

Thats some nice goopy stuff there Ste, stop mincing about with the engine and get those horrid fecking wheels off, btw just to settle a discussion with Rob, what size are ya voodoo's?

[nova_saloon]

that hole. ismnt it for reverse switch? and wow thats real full of mayo. how long was it run like that?

[Spudly]

that hole. ismnt it for reverse switch? and wow thats real full of mayo. how long was it run like that?



No iirc thats on the back of the box from this angle, that hole is into the bellhousing where the flywheel and clutch assembly are!

[scott.parker]

Nice! lol thank god Ive never had a head go that way, funny thing is i remember looking at mk2 fiestas when i was learning to drive, must have seen 20 or more with owners who had no idea why the oil was a bit more think and creamy/or the water being very oily lol..

As for the 4x4, is that engine mounted higher then standard? looks high in the last engine shot pic's.

Scott

[ste porter]

Nice! lol thank god Ive never had a head go that way, funny thing is i remember looking at mk2 fiestas when i was learning to drive, must have seen 20 or more with owners who had no idea why the oil was a bit more think and creamy/or the water being very oily lol..

As for the 4x4, is that engine mounted higher then standard? looks high in the last engine shot pic's.

Scott


yes mate it is slightly but thats because i have made my own mount from scratch rather than a kit all will be clear when it all gets final assembaly as to why all the mounts have been done the way they have but they are the way they are for a reason.
they could have all been normal mounts but its far easier to fab different mounts than it is to route awkward boost pipes and exhaust ect

[ste porter]

that is probably the muckiest engine i've ever seen

thats mainly because the rocker cover gasket split a few days before it came of the road


that hole. ismnt it for reverse switch? and wow thats real full of mayo. how long was it run like that?

on an f28 mate the reverse switch is on top the box near the selector and the ident switch is underneath the hole has defenatly been smashed into it at some point but its odd as it looks like it was made from the inside out but by what i have no idea

as for the mayo it was flushed only 5 days ago with a proper agent for cleaning the system after gasket failure then refilled with fresh coolent as i tryed the porus mod. 5 days later and sbout 50 miles and i got the coolant level light come on checked the header tank and it was solid with the stuff again so i think all i managed with the head and porus mod was to make it worse


Thats some nice goopy stuff there Ste, stop mincing about with the engine and get those horrid fecking wheels off, btw just to settle a discussion with Rob, what size are ya voodoo's?


what size would you like them to be whats it worth if i say 17s or 16s lol ?

[JordyzNova]

i think this should be at least 23% now what you think guys ?

[ste porter]

got abit more done also when i brought the cav the guy i got it of lived about 5 miles from AP racings develpment center and claimed that they had used the cav as a development car for a clutch kit for the f28/c20let and it had had about 4 clutches fitted and tryed on it free of charge
I just thought yeah yeah as you do but it apears he may well of been telling the truth.
The hole in the gearbox after we cleaned it all up was obvious that it wasnt a smashed hole but a cleanly drilled hole in just the right place to inspect the clutch
when we split the box from block low and behold theres an ap clutch and writen on the cover plate in marker pen was Revision 4 batch 1 prototest and on the other side a load of random letters and numbers part number?
same on the friction plate.
so it apears that it may have been ap that made the hole as f28 boxes dont have an inspection cover and the old bloke i got it of was telling the truth. Bonus
Any way some pics of todays progress


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[Jonlem]

Looking good, I'd be inclined to bin those rubber mounts and fit something better which will mean altering the mounts as they use a single UNF threaded bolt.

Should be a cracking car if you finish it off with the right parts :)

[LEWI007]

Loving the Chassis

[Graeme]

Bonus on the clutch Ste, but who wants shooting for the sump gasket

[ste porter]

Bonus on the clutch Ste, but who wants shooting for the sump gasket

previous owner i dont know what the hell it was but it was solid and we ended up having to chisle and sand it of toook hours engines been completly striped and steel rods fitted ect now and built back up will update with pics tomorrow hopefully

[ste porter]

Looking good, I'd be inclined to bin those rubber mounts and fit something better which will mean altering the mounts as they use a single UNF threaded bolt.

Should be a cracking car if you finish it off with the right parts :)


mounts? engine?
if so the rubbers are going to be replaced
if you notice the mounts apart from the front drivers are all vx standard parts so will be easy to upgrade to solids and the rubbers in the drivers side are cavalier front arm rear bushes so they will be replaced with polly bushes and all new bolts ect mate on final asembly

[mowgli]

Nice! lol thank god Ive never had a head go that way, funny thing is i remember looking at mk2 fiestas when i was learning to drive, must have seen 20 or more with owners who had no idea why the oil was a bit more think and creamy/or the water being very oily lol..

As for the 4x4, is that engine mounted higher then standard? looks high in the last engine shot pic's.

Scott
sorry for the thread hijack , but the cvh engine had a poxy breather filter near the inlet manifold that was supposed to get changed every service (iirc)... my missus bought a mk3 escort that started running really crap with mayo in the rocker cover etc.... but the fluid levels were ok, i found the breather was blocked, and the little vac pipe to the inlet manifold was blocked solid with engine sludge... £3 fix.

[Jonlem]

mounts? engine?
if so the rubbers are going to be replaced
if you notice the mounts apart from the front drivers are all vx standard parts so will be easy to upgrade to solids and the rubbers in the drivers side are cavalier front arm rear bushes so they will be replaced with polly bushes and all new bolts ect mate on final asembly

I was just mentioning it as the mounts use a single bolt and in some cases drilling out one of the exisiting holes means the engine will sit slightly different.

Is cool though.

is there a engine spec anywhere ? are you using a locked transfer box ?

[ste porter]

I was just mentioning it as the mounts use a single bolt and in some cases drilling out one of the exisiting holes means the engine will sit slightly different.

Is cool though.

is there a engine spec anywhere ? are you using a locked transfer box ?

the mounts were fabed from scratch mate well the steel parts any way hence why there all in different places as i wanted the deivers side lowered ect hence why i used the lower mounting holes that are used on an aircon mount for a cav turbo

in regards to single bolt there not there twin in a way as theres 2 chassis mounting points on the drivers side mount it shouldnt be a problem as i have got an engine stabiliser going on the top aswell

yeah transfer box is beeing locked mate and the VC is having work done and a different type of fluid so it transfers 300 - 350lbs of torque to the rear same as the qrew boxes. was looking at just using a qrew box but there best part of 2k and you strugle to get hold of them

found out how its done ect and had a word with a guy that does gearboxes at a comp spec level and he claimes it can be sorted real easy and fairly cheap in comparison

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and i trial fitted my new headlights thanks to dave and tinted my idicators to match as they didnt look right clear with black lights pics dont do the lights justice you cant realy see them well in the pics but they realy do suit it

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[ste porter]

ignor the rocker cover its just a spare i have thrown on it to stop it filling with crap the proper one is the black wrinkle painted one i had on it before which will go back on and thats upto date for now

[Spudly]

Looking good Ste, you need the rubber strips for under the headlights now, next time im in scrappy ill grab ya a couple:thumb:

[Mike]

Tidy.

[Pistol Pete]

Coming together nicely.

[ste porter]

Looking good Ste, you need the rubber strips for under the headlights now, next time im in scrappy ill grab ya a couple:thumb:

i did think that they fitted abit naf must be because they were missing but the morrets were smoothed into the front grill pannel so it never had them
any pics of how they should fit with the strips spud?

and if you could grab me some mate that would be great thanks

[Spudly]

i did think that they fitted abit naf must be because they were missing but the morrets were smoothed into the front grill pannel so it never had them
any pics of how they should fit with the strips spud?

and if you could grab me some mate that would be great thanks




Theyre like a little bit of rubber seal, clips over the lip on the back (from behind ooh-err) ill run out and grab you a pic of mine now, back in a mo:thumb:

[Dervy]

great work mate looks nice and clean :)

[Spudly]

Ere ya go Ste.....




Runs under the headlight and indicator..


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Whipped out the indicator so you can see it better, and its just started chucking it down too, the things i do for you mate lol

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[ste porter]

if you look at the pics i have got it but it only goes under the indicator im presuming when he fitted the morrets he cut it down so if you can get hold of some mate that would be great

[Graeme]

Fast progress there mate and imo it looks far better with the dark lights

[Spudly]

Aye no worries Ste, ill find some to bring with me when i come to yours as ive got cover for it now so im definately coming:thumb:


Btw pm me what i need to get for mine, rocker gasket and something else i believe you said it was (to clean my tappets) :d

[ste porter]

Aye no worries Ste, ill find some to bring with me when i come to yours as ive got cover for it now so im definately coming:thumb:


Btw pm me what i need to get for mine, rocker gasket and something else i believe you said it was (to clean my tappets) :d

cam shaft oil seals 3 of them mate

[dj_wudgey]

some nice work on the cavy it looks sweet as f*ck!! id love one to go with my sr! and the lights look well good aswell fella!

[bazil]

:( waiting on the next update of teh nova is worse than waiting on the next episode of House !!

[Spudly]

:( waiting on the next update of teh nova is worse than waiting on the next episode of House !!



Silly boy he has already stated that there wont be any updates on the the nova for a while as he is working on his cav:p

[dj_wudgey]

the cavs very nice but id love to see more done with the nova :(

[stupot89]

if theres no updates on the nova then is there any on the cav???

[ste porter]

sorry guys been so busy lately and with the recent goings on on here with certain events and goings on i have been debating if i should keep updating this thread or not especialy with the cav turbo as it apears not that many are interested and people seem to be very narrow minded lately and question everything if it doesnt seem to be what they would do it must be wrong

so i havent taken many pics and to be fair with christmas coming up and the fact that im short of work lately aswell i just havent done alot

but for those interested i have a small update on its way and i will start updating it regulary again as i am about to start pushing on again as i want the cav back on the road asap as i want the nova shell finished painted and rolling so i can trailer it to pvs