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Count Vaux Alot
25-05-09, 10:18 PM
excuse my confusion but is the rear bumper now going on the front?


No the rear bumper is still the rear bumper - the front was the only place i had to take a photo of it lol

The Simps
25-05-09, 10:20 PM
pah! such a poor effort! lol

skidmarkz
25-05-09, 10:23 PM
lol :)

dhdev (Oli)
25-05-09, 11:12 PM
Triangles in the rear bumper, that's an ace idea!!!

....oh wait :p

discoinferno
26-05-09, 07:57 AM
sorry if i have missed it, but what engine is this having?

skidmarkz
26-05-09, 08:28 AM
lol start at the beggining.... .... ... its having throttle bodies :)

t45_ste
26-05-09, 08:41 AM
lol start at the beggining.... .... ... its having throttle bodies :)

That doesnt really answer his question though :)

c20xe

skidmarkz
26-05-09, 08:53 AM
That doesnt really answer his question though :)

c20xe

it wasnt supposed to :thumb: "ie: try reading the thread"

Count Vaux Alot
26-05-09, 05:37 PM
lol

Count Vaux Alot
26-05-09, 05:52 PM
Triangles in the rear bumper, that's an ace idea!!!

....oh wait :p

Thats right you caught me out and i confess i secretly want to be you Oli :roll: lol

The Simps
26-05-09, 06:13 PM
But isn't Oli a square...... :wtf:

Benn
26-05-09, 06:47 PM
Thats right you caught me out and i confess i secretly want to be in you Oli

Really didnt wanna know that... Dirty boy.

John
26-05-09, 06:51 PM
Good stuff James! arches look fab! Does the bulkhead flex much where the linkage passes through?

Count Vaux Alot
26-05-09, 09:26 PM
Good stuff James! arches look fab! Does the bulkhead flex much where the linkage passes through?

Cheers John, the linkage passes through the bulkhead as it starts to become the exhaust tunnel so it is surrounded by the rack mount and isn't a flat piece of metal so subsequently is stronger by form - so no it doesn't flex much :thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
26-05-09, 09:27 PM
Really didnt wanna know that... Dirty boy.

In and out the other side :eek:

Jay
26-05-09, 09:31 PM
Does look ace that.

Benn
26-05-09, 09:35 PM
In and out the other side :eek:

hehehe is he that skinny?lol

dhdev (Oli)
26-05-09, 09:55 PM
hehehe is he that skinny?lol

I think the term is 'Race-spec' not skinny ;)lol

Ernie
27-05-09, 08:05 AM
lol

scott.parker
27-05-09, 01:18 PM
Just catching up on your progress, good work with the arches mate, as fro the shifter it looks really good, but I'm a bit confused on something, is there any lock out for reverse? how do you select it, just more to the left then 1st?

Scott

Count Vaux Alot
27-05-09, 05:39 PM
Same as a nova Scott push down and across to the left - you can see the spring at the base of the shifter in some of the pics.

Count Vaux Alot
28-05-09, 09:16 PM
Small update for tonight as i managed to get a little done in the hour i had spare.

Firstly a ground back all the FG on the O/S rear wing to a more suitable level and to get the rough shape, then hit it with the first layer of filler, its taking shape nicely already.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller050.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller051.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller052.jpg

While the filler was drying i decided i would partake in some more rubbing down

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller053.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller054.jpg

And decided to get some pics of the rear bumper on the rear to avoid any more confusion (simps lol)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller046.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller047.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller049.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller048.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller055.jpg

That is all thanks for looking :thumb:

Benn
28-05-09, 09:22 PM
Will the back pannel to cut more to be hidden?
Arch looks quite stright in primer.

Count Vaux Alot
28-05-09, 09:25 PM
Will the back pannel to cut more to be hidden?
Arch looks quite stright in primer.

No benn i thought i would leave the back panel mangled and all miss shapen lol (it will be cut neatly ;)) The arch will do for what i want :thumb:

The Simps
28-05-09, 10:07 PM
Jesus! Think of the weight of all that filler! :p

Benn
28-05-09, 10:09 PM
No benn i thought i would leave the back panel mangled and all miss shapen lol (it will be cut neatly ;)) The arch will do for what i want :thumb:

lol well you might of...lol

scott.parker
28-05-09, 10:16 PM
Jesus! Think of the weight of all that filler! :p

Funny that i thought the same! lol

Looks really good though mate, Fair play to you, mega wide ass! :p

Scott

Count Vaux Alot
28-05-09, 10:24 PM
Jesus! Think of the weight of all that filler! :p

Its not a laughing matter, i've been shedding a tear over every ounce added but you can't help bad luck!

Count Vaux Alot
28-05-09, 10:26 PM
Looks really good though mate, Fair play to you, mega wide ass! :p

Scott

I might also have to wide the front yet lol

burgo
28-05-09, 10:29 PM
you could always in future take a mold off your arches and make new fibreglass rear quarters if your worried about the weight

scott.parker
28-05-09, 10:30 PM
Good idea Burgo, he could make some up to sell as well!

Count Vaux Alot
28-05-09, 10:37 PM
you could always in future take a mold off your arches and make new fibreglass rear quarters if your worried about the weight

A very good idea burgo one i may well use :thumb:

Jay
28-05-09, 10:45 PM
Does look FAT i must say :)

The Simps
28-05-09, 11:40 PM
Its not a laughing matter, i've been shedding a tear over every ounce added but you can't help bad luck!


To be fair I've probably got more on my bulkhead than you have on your whole car! lol

Pillar
29-05-09, 12:11 AM
mental!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dhdev (Oli)
29-05-09, 12:45 AM
Its not a laughing matter, i've been shedding a tear over every ounce added but you can't help bad luck!

Bye bye sub 640kgs ;)

Jonlem
29-05-09, 12:51 AM
Bye bye sub 640kgs ;)

True but atleast its got a real engine lol

skidmarkz
29-05-09, 08:33 AM
True but atleast its got a real engine lol

true haha


Good work james, weekend in nearly here and time to attack the nova again lol :)

Count Vaux Alot
29-05-09, 06:28 PM
Bye bye sub 640kgs ;)

Yours should be lighter than that by now anyway shouldn't it? I thought you plan was to leave it sitting around doing nothing so it would rot the weight away ;) lol

t45_ste
29-05-09, 06:44 PM
Out of curiosity, whats the width from tyre wall to tyre wall on the rear. Also what offset and width wheel are you using?

Count Vaux Alot
29-05-09, 07:00 PM
Ste its 1640mm wide, the wheels are 7inch wide on a 45 ET iirc.

Southie
29-05-09, 07:04 PM
As per usual cracking progress. Excellent :)

I don't know why but I keep getting the urge to sit on your rear quarters with a fishing rod lol

dhdev (Oli)
29-05-09, 08:30 PM
Yours should be lighter than that by now anyway shouldn't it? I thought you plan was to leave it sitting around doing nothing so it would rot the weight away ;) lol

BMW M-sport used to leave engine blocks outside to rust before using them, figure it can't help to try it :confused:

Count Vaux Alot
29-05-09, 09:38 PM
BMW M-sport used to leave engine blocks outside to rust before using them, figure it can't help to try it :confused:


Pics or it never happened! lol

Count Vaux Alot
31-05-09, 07:51 PM
Evening peeps! Here are this weekends efforts and fook me was it warm rubbing down - i had a dust mask on and the elastic straps have left a un tanned mark on my neck lol

Again as there is a lot of dust involved and not much progress of any real interest other than the various stages of rubbing down there isn't that many pics to speak of, but after another two days of sanding i feel i'm getting somewere with it now.

Here is the N/S after a rub down to see what areas still needed some attention, fortunately there were that many thanks funk

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller056.jpg

And here is the O/S after quite an amount of fettling - in the pictures below i have just applied the first guide coat so most of the filler work has been done and the shape of th arch is coming together

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller057.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller058.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller059.jpg

I could now rub the guide coat back gently to find any high or low spots in the filler and get the line across the arch correct

Please excuse the next pics the sun was out and i couldn't get a decent shot - after the guide coat and a little more filler added/removed from certain areas.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller060.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller061.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller062.jpg

And one from behind - the arches are pretty much level

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller063.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller065.jpg

Once i was reasonably happy with the shape of the O/S i masked everything up and hit both sides with some proper out of the gun high build primer (not the yellow Halfords w@nk) giving them a couple of coats and it looks ok

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller066.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller067.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/quaifeshifterandarchfiller068.jpg

Then while that was drying i cracked on with rubbing all the hard to get at areas down around the car, so only a small amount of finishing is needed before paint then the proper rebuild can begin WOOP WOOP!

And that means its nearly time to start bringing out the shiney things :D :thumb:

Jay
31-05-09, 07:53 PM
This is going to look mean when finished :) What front bumper are you having?

craig green
31-05-09, 07:54 PM
Damn wide mate. Good skills.

Count Vaux Alot
31-05-09, 07:59 PM
This is going to look mean when finished :) What front bumper are you having?

The original one piece front bumper i think - but i'm open to suggestions?

The Simps
31-05-09, 08:02 PM
I have complete respect for how painful filling and rubbing an area that large is! Good work bud.

Is it gonna be at Billing? Be good to have a beer and rest it on the arch! lol

MK999
31-05-09, 08:02 PM
The original one piece front bumper i think - but i'm open to suggestions?

combat kit from a corsa fitted with self tappers! lol

The Simps
31-05-09, 08:03 PM
The original one piece front bumper i think - but i'm open to suggestions?


Novadose.

Benn
31-05-09, 08:08 PM
Looking good dude, good work with the guild coat. Best way to get things flat as funk. Do it in the primer too when you flat that off, shows up any scratch marks for the filling that might be left/missed.

Count Vaux Alot
31-05-09, 09:44 PM
Looking good dude, good work with the guild coat. Best way to get things flat as funk. Do it in the primer too when you flat that off, shows up any scratch marks for the filling that might be left/missed.
I hear you buddy - i will be doing as you said!

As for the bumper suggestions i was thinking some sort of extreme jap style plough would suit it quite well

Benn
31-05-09, 10:30 PM
Good man,

And overdose? K type?

Count Vaux Alot
31-05-09, 10:40 PM
Good man,

And overdose? K type?

Some thing like that yeh, i just need some extra down force for when my VTEC kicks in YO! lol

Count Vaux Alot
01-06-09, 09:11 PM
So after getting tired of rubbing down etc etc and the arrival of some new bits (big thanks Ste!) i decided i would crack on with something else for a change, so i got on with this.....

One new corsa B pedal box with RJ

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler008.jpg

One freshly drilled hole

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler005.jpg

And after a tidy up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler006.jpg

Then fitted in position - the MC's should arrive this week.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler002.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler004.jpg

Once i was happy that was positioned as i wanted i got out the pedals i had modified previously and gave them a quick coat of acid etch followed by some matt black.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler009.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler013.jpg

I then left that lot to dry, once its all back together i can make use of this box of metal braided snakes

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler014.jpg

While i was in the engine bay i decide to see what room there was for a fan up front with the cooler and rad in place. I think i will be able to get a 12 inch in there.

Fitted the rad grommets

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler007.jpg

Not much room with the cooler here

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler011.jpg

So it will probably end up around here somewhere only a little more level lol but maybe not though i may change my mind....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler012.jpg

That's basically it for tonight there was a little more but i forgot to take a pic of that doh!

Benn
01-06-09, 09:13 PM
Pedal box is tasty.

trackdaynova
01-06-09, 09:16 PM
good work James, still not loving the arches if I'm honest, look too out of place (just my opinion mind)

fancy selling me those 2x 888s you have in those last 2 pics, I need some lol

Prey
01-06-09, 09:20 PM
wow..... massively impressed by this car (still shocked at the fab work from months ago...)

twin40s
01-06-09, 09:22 PM
is it havin a mk1 face.

Count Vaux Alot
01-06-09, 09:35 PM
is it havin a mk1 face.


The original one piece front bumper i think - but i'm open to suggestions?

........yes

Count Vaux Alot
01-06-09, 09:38 PM
good work James, still not loving the arches if I'm honest, look too out of place (just my opinion mind)

fancy selling me those 2x 888s you have in those last 2 pics, I need some lol

I hear you with the arches dude they look as out of place as a clio on a nova forum lol :p :p unfortunately its the only way.....

Do you want the 888 back?

peester
01-06-09, 09:40 PM
i say one piece front bumper yeh

Count Vaux Alot
01-06-09, 09:41 PM
Pedal box is tasty.


wow..... massively impressed by this car (still shocked at the fab work from months ago...)

Thanks chaps :thumb:

trackdaynova
01-06-09, 09:43 PM
as a clio on a nova forumfair enough :)
Do you want the 888s back?how much do you want for them?

Count Vaux Alot
01-06-09, 09:46 PM
how much do you want for them?

Don't ask stupid questions.

dhdev (Oli)
02-06-09, 07:17 PM
How about placing the oil cooler vertically where it is positioned in the last pic?

Mint FRST
02-06-09, 08:46 PM
Awesome work...

I have a Ford Fiesta RS turbo cooling fan, front mount Bosch item if your interested? Can take to PVG?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Chris225/100_1317.jpg

Count Vaux Alot
02-06-09, 09:32 PM
How about placing the oil cooler vertically where it is positioned in the last pic?
Thats exactly what i thought, i just need to undo the fittings and slip the engine in to make sure it all fits proper like!


Awesome work...

I have a Ford Fiesta RS turbo cooling fan, front mount Bosch item if your interested? Can take to PVG?


PM me price and size please Chris :thumb:


Small update for to nights tinkering - i received the MC's (0.625 for the Wilwoods at the front and 0.7 for the rear drums as recomended by comp brake)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler016.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler017.jpg

Then fitted them up to the pedal box (adjustment will be needed once the brakes are bled etc)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler015.jpg

And made the pedal box a permanent feature with the help of some super slim bolts (less weight lol)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler019.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler018.jpg

Once the pedal boxs was secure in place i decided to see how much the braided hoses needed 'altering' to fit, the answer was quite a lot.

A rough fit

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler020.jpg

Not sure were the best place to put the reservoirs is?? Some were around here but lowere and with shorter lines obviously

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler026.jpg

Getting a bit ahead of myself i grabbed my front callipers from the parts storage facility (the loft) to see if they had the correct fittings in (they do) this is when i realised they were in need of a dam good clean

This is how i found them

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler021.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler022.jpg

I gave them a squirt of brake cleaner and the dirt along with the paint (at least i think it was paint) began to remove its self

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler023.jpg

They ended up like this nearly ready for a repaint

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler024.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler025.jpg

So thats basically were i'm at bring on tomorrow! :thumb:

novaload1992
02-06-09, 09:43 PM
good luck with your project :thumb:

skidmarkz
02-06-09, 10:07 PM
jealous of the brakes, awsome progress as always!!!

Graeme
02-06-09, 10:11 PM
Looking like a Nova again, how long until the outside gets painted?

Count Vaux Alot
02-06-09, 10:17 PM
Well i would have been doing it this weekend but PV strikes on sunday so thats funked that idea....so perhaps next week end oh well!

gunny
02-06-09, 10:18 PM
Looking good count, love the brakes. You have pm coming.

Benn
02-06-09, 10:21 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Count Vaux Alot again.

Gggrrr. Loving the brakes dude! Mount the res under the scuttle? That way the are higher than the mc.

Count Vaux Alot
02-06-09, 10:43 PM
Gunny thanks you have Pm

Benn again thanks i will prob mount them under the scuttle around their current position some were.

Rick Draper
02-06-09, 10:46 PM
Why not mount the reservoirs directly onto the master cylinders?

skidmarkz
02-06-09, 10:48 PM
Why not mount the reservoirs directly onto the master cylinders?


i was thinking that, but didnt wanna sound stupid asking :D i dont know f all about pedal boxes heh

t45_ste
03-06-09, 08:14 AM
Looks like the parts are going to a good home :) bonet is getting picked up today. Fingers crossed it reaches you in good condition.

Count Vaux Alot
03-06-09, 06:23 PM
Looks like the parts are going to a good home :) bonet is getting picked up today. Fingers crossed it reaches you in good condition.

Thanks Ste - were is this update then?


Why not mount the reservoirs directly onto the master cylinders?

I will have a look

John
03-06-09, 07:05 PM
Good stuff James, what size discs? bells or not?

Rick Draper
03-06-09, 07:36 PM
I will have a look

Looks like your reservoirs have been tapped and fitted with -3 fittings. If you want some the right size to go direct i am sure i have some.

trackdaynova
03-06-09, 07:57 PM
John - 280mm Wilwood vented disks :)

Looking good James, calipers will look nice with a bit of detailing mate

Count Vaux Alot
03-06-09, 09:27 PM
Good stuff James, what size discs? bells or not?
Thanks John - Olz has answered already


Looks like your reservoirs have been tapped and fitted with -3 fittings. If you want some the right size to go direct i am sure i have some.
I've just had a look at the reservoirs and they look like they would screw into the MC's if the threads were clean, but the threads are slightly damaged and i don't want to force them in - how would i tell if they were -3 Rick?

I also need the fittings to go from braided hose to the rear drum cylinders any one got any idea were those can be found?


John
Looking good James, calipers will look nice with a bit of detailing mate
Thanks mate...the callipers do need a little detailing but they will be good as new shortly :)

And on that note some more progress, i only had an hour or so tonight so got what i could done

I started by giving the callipers a quick mask up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler027.jpg

Followed by a couple of coats of acid etch

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler028.jpg

While these were drying i turned my attention to something i had knocked up whilst enduring an extreme stretch of boredom at work

And here it is

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler030.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler031.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler032.jpg

And it now lives here

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler033.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler034.jpg

It will be bolted in and to ensure the rad is kept were its supposed to be i drilled the spot welds out of the old rad mount on the original slam panel

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler035.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler036.jpg

And bolted it to the new Ali one

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler038.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler037.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/brakebiasboxradandcooler039.jpg

Thus ending tonight's activities :D

Benn
03-06-09, 09:34 PM
Love the re placement slam pannel. Would look awesome polished.. ;)

Count Vaux Alot
03-06-09, 09:45 PM
lol Benn it would look good polished but it hasn't got a lot of chance of that, it might get painted if its lucky!

Benn
03-06-09, 10:14 PM
lol i know, if i was closer i'd do it.

Count Vaux Alot
03-06-09, 10:17 PM
Thanks buddy, if i do another show car (if) i will make sure i polish the slam panel lol

Benn
03-06-09, 10:18 PM
lol sweet.

The Simps
03-06-09, 11:03 PM
listen to you to bufties! lol

Good idea with the rad mount.

skidmarkz
03-06-09, 11:05 PM
cool! can you make me a slam panel lol x x x x

scott.parker
04-06-09, 12:01 AM
Slam will look nice once it's gone all holie lol

Count Vaux Alot
04-06-09, 07:42 PM
lol Scott the front panel may receive a little holage :roll:

Graeme
04-06-09, 08:52 PM
Top fab skills as always

Jay
10-06-09, 06:20 PM
Update?

Jay.

Count Vaux Alot
14-06-09, 10:00 PM
Sorry Jay not this week i've been really busy, so have only had a couple of hours on the car - i hope to give it a bit of a push this week but have another busy weekend next weekend so who knows :(

Jay
15-06-09, 08:21 AM
Sorry Jay not this week i've been really busy, so have only had a couple of hours on the car - i hope to give it a bit of a push this week but have another busy weekend next weekend so who knows :(

Not good man, dont give up lol

Count Vaux Alot
15-06-09, 08:56 PM
No worries on that i'm gagging to get on with it i just have other things to do - i've got loads of new parts turning up soon so that will be nice :)

Count Vaux Alot
23-06-09, 10:07 PM
Well i have an update all ready but cunty bollox photo bucket wont allow me to bulk upload and i haven't got 3 days spare for the standard up loader so it will have to wait fecking thing!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Benn
23-06-09, 10:15 PM
lol i've never got the bulk uploadrer to work...

Count Vaux Alot
23-06-09, 10:19 PM
I'm ready to smash it

scott.parker
23-06-09, 10:23 PM
Create free account bulk upload works well.

http://imageshack.us/

Count Vaux Alot
23-06-09, 10:24 PM
CBA now as it will take an hour to write

napalm_27
23-06-09, 10:30 PM
send to me mate and il do it for you :thumb:
napalm_27@hotmail.co.uk

peester
23-06-09, 11:26 PM
lol i've never got the bulk uploadrer to work...

nah i always old style it too..

Benn
24-06-09, 08:06 AM
Ah i can use the new one fine, just not the bulk thing.

skidmarkz
24-06-09, 08:54 AM
bulk uploader works fine :|

Count Vaux Alot
24-06-09, 10:01 PM
Warning before reading this please be aware that the content is of a sexual nature!

Hi every one update time at last (well over due i know!) I have been very busy of late and the car has been more than neglected, but after another busy weekend i decided to crack on this week, beginning with a trip up to see a very nice chap by the name of Simon Armstrong at Ultimate performance (http://www.ultimatep.com/index.asp) he is a very nice bloke who is happy to chat and is extremely clever as well!

He did the CNC work on my head below:

(Ollys pics from earlier on in the thread)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/XEInletPort02.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/XEInletPort07.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/XEInletPort08.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/XEInletPort05.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/XEInletPort06.jpg

So when purchasing a new inlet manifold for the throttle bodies from SDB (along with some other goodies) i decided to get Simon to CNC the manifold to match the head (it would have been rude not to) results below

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff032.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff030.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff029.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff034.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff033.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff036.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff035.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff031.jpg

Count Vaux Alot
24-06-09, 10:03 PM
I also received some other goodies such as

SBD coil and leads

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff037.jpg

FPR

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff039.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff040.jpg

Water elbow for the inlet manifold

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff041.jpg

An ITG sausage filter and backing plate

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff038.jpg

And the dizzy blanking plate

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff042.jpg

As i was now brimming with enthusiasm to continue i decided to get on with the car and body work itself.

Here is the FG boot and bonnet i recently purchased after a good wash, the bonnet is a Euro rally item, it was second hand but new and unused it is 100% spot on. As for the boot, well its second hand and of unknown origin and shonkey shonk basically.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff001.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff002.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff003.jpg

As i'm not looking for a show and shine finish this isn't that much of a problem but there was some damage and 'blemishes' read as holes that needed sorting. While i was there i thought some customisation Count style was in order so gave the bonnet the signature triangulating for some ventilation.

Here is the interesting job made of the bonnet pin holes - i'm glad they went to the effort....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff004.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff005.jpg

After removing the old pins i cracked on with the pre work

Old pins

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff006.jpg

I gave the hole boot a rub down to highlight the worst areas

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff024.jpg

then applied a little filler to them

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff027.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff026.jpg

Southie
24-06-09, 10:06 PM
Now that's a tasty fannymould mmm :cool:

Count Vaux Alot
24-06-09, 10:06 PM
I then rubbed it all back and finished off the prep, the result ready to paint

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff055.jpg

And on to the bonnet, similar process here but with the triangles added to the twist.

I did some measuring and an amount of head scratching then marked out the central line on the bonnet along with some other reference lines and finally the triangles

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff011.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff012.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff013.jpg

Then in was out with the drill, grinder and a thin disc...oh wait to late

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff014.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff016.jpg

Considering i did it by hand with a grinder i think it has come out quite well

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff017.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff018.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff022.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff023.jpg

And the back side with some of the supports removed to make way for the mesh i will add from the under side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff019.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff020.jpg

And the remains

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff028.jpg

I then keyed up the white gell coat ready for some filler

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff025.jpg

I only filled the two dimples left from the badge and repaired one of the top corners

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff063.jpg

peester
24-06-09, 10:11 PM
christ.. that machinist man is goood.
nice collection of parts, is the FPR part no. AIR007?? Do you know the part number for the gauge??

good progress matey

Southie
24-06-09, 10:14 PM
Absolute quality cutting on the bonnet, to say you had only one go at it or you would have fecked it, thats brilliant precision :)

peester
24-06-09, 10:15 PM
whoa yay the bonnet too.. i was gonna do that

Count Vaux Alot
24-06-09, 10:16 PM
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff059.jpg

And the finished result after i keyed up the white gel coat

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff062.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff060.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff061.jpg

This brings us to tonights efforts i knocked up another set of these wide wheels that i have done before, these ones are going to be used in conjunction with some Mickey Thompson race slicks for some drag racing i believe, some pics just because

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff043.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff044.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff045.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff046.jpg

8 and a half inch wide :thumb:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff048.jpg

tacked

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff049.jpg

And welded

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff050.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff054.jpg

Benn
24-06-09, 10:17 PM
That head work is ultra sexy! Cncing is a fanatatic way to do it.

Love the triangels in the bonnet, good stedy hand work.

Did you make the wheels by hand? Or hold them in a jig?

Count Vaux Alot
24-06-09, 10:18 PM
Absolute quality cutting on the bonnet, to say you had only one go at it or you would have fecked it, thats brilliant precision :)

Yep only one go then by by Mr bonnet lol


christ.. that machinist man is goood.
nice collection of parts, is the FPR part no. AIR007?? Do you know the part number for the gauge??

good progress matey

He is very very good


whoa yay the bonnet too.. i was gonna do that

And thanks bud

Southie
24-06-09, 10:21 PM
Severe updates tonight. It's really good to see quality progress and photos in a project. :) repped for the progress. Superb.

Count Vaux Alot
24-06-09, 10:25 PM
That head work is ultra sexy! Cncing is a fanatatic way to do it.

Love the triangels in the bonnet, good stedy hand work.

Did you make the wheels by hand? Or hold them in a jig?

The head and manifold are to much to look at at once without needing some light relief and is the best way to do it imo as the machine doesn't do getting it wrong that often, as for the triangles i love them but were a bit of a risk lol

The wheels were cut in half using a lathe but welded up by hand, due to all the rust in the wheels metal they were welded up ground back and re welded to ensure good penetration was had and there was no porosity (the rust, paint and ****e that cant be removed obviously reacts with the weld pool causing it to spatter etc)
Resin is then brushed on over the weld to insure its air tight :thumb: :thumb:

Plug
24-06-09, 10:49 PM
loving the wide wheels mate :thumb:

also alot of progress, wont be long til its on the track now

Count Vaux Alot
24-06-09, 10:53 PM
nice collection of parts, is the FPR part no. AIR007?? Do you know the part number for the gauge??


The FPR is FR2SB on the on line price list here
(http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Price_List/Price%20list.pdf)
And the gauge is FPG1

skidmarkz
24-06-09, 11:39 PM
wicked update mate, most impressive :)

t45_ste
24-06-09, 11:39 PM
excellent updates. Loving the wheels :thumb:

The Simps
24-06-09, 11:40 PM
quality as always bud.

you had to cut those holes really after adding all that filler :p

scott.parker
25-06-09, 12:22 AM
I had one of them FPR's on my set up, but i sold it off, as it was to unstable, it kept fluctuating, i have a FIX SBD one In the lines now, and i have no issues with it.

Good update though, love them wheels, hope they are all done evenly too.

Scott

Jay
25-06-09, 09:56 AM
Woohoo update, looks awesome now really coming together. :)

Cant wait to see it fully painted.

skidmarkz
25-06-09, 10:00 AM
guess i better do sommet to my car now eh lol, as always top update chap :)

Count Vaux Alot
25-06-09, 05:48 PM
Cheers chaps, i'm about to get back on it now.

The FPR was an SBD recommendation if its ****e it will be going back.

peester
25-06-09, 08:32 PM
The FPR is FR2SB on the on line price list here
(http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Price_List/Price%20list.pdf)
And the gauge is FPG1

meh ruddy sbd part numbers..

Count Vaux Alot
25-06-09, 08:55 PM
As said previously more progress would ensue this week so here is tonight's efforts for you

Panel wiped the boot and bonnet down then gave them both some high build primer

Boot back side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff067.jpg

Front side of the boot

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff070.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff071.jpg

Bonnet

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff068.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff069.jpg

While this lot was drying i decided to get on with a few bits and bobs so i continued refilling the brake and clutch pedals

I cleaned this bulkhead fitting up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff072.jpg

Primed

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff073.jpg

and painted it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff075.jpg

Leaving that to dry i built up the pedals

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff074.jpg

And fitted them to the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/bonnetbootdoorsSBDstuff076.jpg

:thumb: :thumb:

Plug
25-06-09, 10:43 PM
starting to go back together bit by bit :thumb:

Just needs a lick o paint on it

alistairolsen
27-06-09, 11:40 AM
That head is ****ing stunning!

When you did the wheels, obv clamp them up and use a parting tool to remove the outr rim, then bolt up another wheel the other way around and use the parting tool to remove the inner rim. How did you ensure it was all true before welding it together? Or are you accepting a small vibration on the strip if theyre a little out of balance?

Im quite interested in doing similar for some track wheels but id need them to balance up perfectly and Im not sure what can be achieved.

Also, it must have been a ******* huge lathe!

Ernie
27-06-09, 05:01 PM
Looking good James.Cant wait to see it once all done.

Count Vaux Alot
28-06-09, 10:34 PM
That head is ****ing stunning!

When you did the wheels, obv clamp them up and use a parting tool to remove the outr rim, then bolt up another wheel the other way around and use the parting tool to remove the inner rim. How did you ensure it was all true before welding it together? Or are you accepting a small vibration on the strip if theyre a little out of balance?

Im quite interested in doing similar for some track wheels but id need them to balance up perfectly and Im not sure what can be achieved.

Also, it must have been a ******* huge lathe!

The wheels balance up quite well you are only cutting it in half at the end of the day and as long as the two cuts are clean then they should slot back together neatly. Then you make sure all the measurements line up and weld it up.
You would be surprised how out of shape most steel wheels are in the first place lol

Here is the lathe it is 'quite large'

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/100320081160.jpg

:thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
28-06-09, 10:40 PM
After another extreme faf with photo bucket i have given up again as once i had finally uploaded the 59 pics (1 and a half hours of trying later :mad: :mad: ) from over the weekend i do not have the time or patience to do the write up so update to morrow hope fully

Here is a sneak at whats to follow :D

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted022.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted049.jpg

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Benn
28-06-09, 11:00 PM
Awesome dude!

I so need a set of widen rims.

Plug
28-06-09, 11:07 PM
a lick o paint is being applied cant wait for the update tomorrow mate :thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
28-06-09, 11:07 PM
Awesome dude!

I so need a set of widen rims.

Cheers dude!

If you have some steels (you need two to make one) then i will widen them for you :thumb:

PM me if your interested ;)

Count Vaux Alot
28-06-09, 11:08 PM
a lick o paint is being applied cant wait for the update tomorrow mate :thumb:

Indeed a lick o paint HAS been applied :cool:

Adam
28-06-09, 11:11 PM
Nice work :cool:

Benn
28-06-09, 11:16 PM
Cheers dude!

If you have some steels (you need two to make one) then i will widen them for you :thumb:

PM me if your interested ;)


Aaahhh dont temped me!
Wonder where i can find 10 5stud 15" steels from.....

alistairolsen
28-06-09, 11:28 PM
any vectra in any scrapyard ad anywhere!

you should try finding 4 stud ones :P

stupot89
28-06-09, 11:41 PM
Aaahhh dont temped me!
Wonder where i can find 10 5stud 15" steels from.....

the scrap yard of course:thumb:

mikey14sr
29-06-09, 08:07 AM
Aaahhh dont temped me!
Wonder where i can find 10 5stud 15" steels from.....

Vectra B's and C's, Corsa C's and D's, Astra G's and H's..........

Benn
29-06-09, 08:24 AM
Astra mk4 will be the wrong off set, as i think are the rest. arnt they all et 38.. That plus 7inch wide would be a killer.

mikey14sr
29-06-09, 01:06 PM
Most of them are only 6" width though, and the widening takes place on the front of the rim so the off-set problem is minor really, though 5mm spacers would bring it back if needed.

alistairolsen
29-06-09, 06:03 PM
Astra mk4 will be the wrong off set, as i think are the rest. arnt they all et 38.. That plus 7inch wide would be a killer.

wtf do you want to widen them for if you dont want them wide :S

And the offset will be ****ed, for instance, 5.5 inch rim, et49 offset, widened by an inch and a half on the outside (as above) will end up being 7j et31 approximately. Since you wont find et60 something wheels to start with, youre always going to be below whats ideal for a nova.

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 09:24 PM
Alistairolsen is correct widening completely funks offset....

Anyway lets forget the wheels for the time being and crack on with the project!

So, quite a large update in terms of both importance and jobs completed from over the weekend so here goes :D

I dragged the car out of the garage Saturday morning to start the prep work only to find i still wasn't 100% happy with the rear arches so i cracked on with sorting these out

Blemish in the fibre glass undercoat

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted001.jpg

And more finishing required

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted003.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted004.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted005.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted006.jpg

And primed up again

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted007.jpg

Then i got down to some serious rubbing down - basically the whole car needed preping as i had only done bits and pieces previously Mr camera stayed out of the way for a bit due to dust.

After the rub down i masked up all the orifices, cleaned the garage out (all the sh1te was on the drive so i was praying the rain stayed away) Got rid of as much dust from the garage floor and surrounding areas and finally blew/ panel wiped the whole car down

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted009.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted010.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted012.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted013.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted016.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted017.jpg

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 09:26 PM
Once everything had settled i gave the car another panel wipe and got the paint out the results

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted019.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted020.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted021.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted022.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted023.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted024.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted025.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted026.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted027.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted028.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted029.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted030.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted031.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted032.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted033.jpg

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 09:28 PM
Sorry for the extreme number of pictures of the car but, this resembles how happy i am with the results, given this was a 'one man in his garage job' i think i has turned out very well if i don't say so myself and i am happy as can be with the colour

Here are some of her out side in the sun de masked

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted034.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted036.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted037.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted038.jpg

Once the car was out the way i started on the bonnet and boot following a similar process - Rub down, clean off and panel wipe then paint.

Bonnet rubbed down

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted045.jpg

Painted

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted047.jpg

And dry

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted049.jpg

Then the boot

Cabin side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted048.jpg

And out side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted050.jpg

Plug
29-06-09, 09:29 PM
looking better with some colour on it mate :thumb:

Does this also mean the shell is finished and its only a matter of building it back up.

Dont appoligise about the amount of pics the more the better

Wont be long til the track by the looks of it :thumb: :)

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 09:30 PM
Whilst that lot was drying (3 coats of green was applied to everything btw) i moved on to the doors.
The doors needed more work than the previous panels as they were in worse condition and had the pita nipples from the original trim that needed removing.

Both doors also needed some strengthening were they had been gutted harshly so, i welded the two skins together in certain areas

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted054.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted055.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted056.jpg

Leading me on to the prep - one door

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted039.jpg

Nipples removed and a small amount of rust attacked using a 60 grade sanding disc on the grinder

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted041.jpg

Then i blended all the sanded areas using 80, 150 then 320 grade sanding pads on the DA (Dual Action air sander)
As the marks on the door after sanding/blending were only minor i used some a small scrape of green stopper to cover them

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted043.jpg

Once the stopper was dry i rubbed it all back again and panel wiped it down

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted052.jpg

And shot it in some high build primer

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted057.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted058.jpg

This nicely leading on to the prep on door number two whilst the primer was drying.
With this door some tool had self tapper screwed the old trim on in one area so i had to address the hole left by that with the welder

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted062.jpg

Blended yo

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted061.jpg

And some filler and stopper applied

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted063.jpg

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 09:30 PM
As a side line while i was between jobs i painted the wilwoods up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted064.jpg

And for the bufty ones amongst us ( including me at heart also) i detailed the writing

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted065.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted066.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted067.jpg

That is all thank you please :thumb:

novaxe235
29-06-09, 09:48 PM
^steady hand needed for that job me thinks^

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 10:03 PM
looking better with some colour on it mate :thumb:

Does this also mean the shell is finished and its only a matter of building it back up.

Dont appoligise about the amount of pics the more the better

Wont be long til the track by the looks of it :thumb: :)

The shell is in deed ready for the rebuild - just a few more bits to paint then its rebuild time!



^steady hand needed for that job me thinks^

Indeed it does :thumb:

alistairolsen
29-06-09, 10:21 PM
looks bloody amazing! looking forward to the build up pics :)

The Simps
29-06-09, 10:22 PM
Awesome chief!! All that hard work and rubbing down on the arches has paid off. The lines are fantastic! Still not convinced on the colour tho but think I'll change my mind once its all bolted together.

Benn
29-06-09, 10:25 PM
Youve done a fantastic job getting the arch work stright from the looks of it.
Top work.
If the roof a bit patchey tho? Looks odd in the pics..

Whole car tho is looking awesome! Love the detailling on the calipars...

Doors look good too...


My thinking on the wheels was, the right off set means they sit fine on the inner arch where there's less room, and stick out on the front...

General Baxter
29-06-09, 10:27 PM
going to finish painting the car ?

some browns and darker greens would look good lol

jayme taylor
29-06-09, 10:36 PM
loving the colour !!!! nano-green ?

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 10:44 PM
looks bloody amazing! looking forward to the build up pics :)

Thank you :thumb:


Awesome chief!! All that hard work and rubbing down on the arches has paid off. The lines are fantastic! Still not convinced on the colour tho but think I'll change my mind once its all bolted together.

The colours fine trust me, once the black bits are on bumpers etc - you can't go wrong with free paint ;)


Youve done a fantastic job getting the arch work stright from the looks of it.
Top work.
If the roof a bit patchey tho? Looks odd in the pics..

Whole car tho is looking awesome! Love the detailling on the calipars...

Doors look good too...

My thinking on the wheels was, the right off set means they sit fine on the inner arch where there's less room, and stick out on the front...

Cheers Benn, yes you are correct on the roof it isn't 100% as it isn't finished yet i wasn't going to mention it but as you have pointed it out....i'm not telling what yet though :p

As for the wheels yes they would be ok on the inside as you say.


going to finish painting the car ?

some browns and darker greens would look good lol

In English?


loving the colour !!!! nano-green ?

Correct it is nato green :thumb:

Nick J
29-06-09, 10:45 PM
Looks good to me fella. It seems you do a pretty thorough job of everything you attempt. I really like the colour too although detailing the calipers?? I can slowly see track car ethics going out of the window! Joking aside I think your a show car man at heart really as showed with the quality of your saloon. :)

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 10:50 PM
Looks good to me fella. It seems you do a pretty thorough job of everything you attempt. I really like the colour too although detailing the calipers?? I can slowly see track car ethics going out of the window! I think your a show car man at heart really as showed with the quality of your saloon. :)

Thanks Nick that means a lot coming from you given the quality of your paint work, As for the callipers i couldn't help myself lol

I love the aspects of both show and track car building equally - i also believe that a track car doesn't have to look like a complete bag of sh1t just because its a track car. It can still be tidy and tracked, look at trackdaynovas for example (that was a general statement Nick nothing aimed at you)

jayme taylor
29-06-09, 10:50 PM
sorry for spaming your thread , but where did you get the roof rack from for your saloon ? cheers matey

Benn
29-06-09, 10:51 PM
Cheers Benn, yes you are correct on the roof it isn't 100% as it isn't finished yet i wasn't going to mention it but as you have pointed it out....i'm not telling what yet though :p

As for the wheels yes they would be ok on the inside as you say.


Oops sorry dude, looks great tho. And yeah that was me thinking on the rims hence the off set talk. Widing the wheels wont affect the offset at all.

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 10:52 PM
sorry for spaming your thread , but where did you get the roof rack from for your saloon ? cheers matey

The moon or was it ebay i can't remember lol it was originally for a classic mini iirc :thumb:

jayme taylor
29-06-09, 10:53 PM
kool cheers pal

Iain
29-06-09, 10:53 PM
Nice work, very impressive. The roof having chequers or something?

Count Vaux Alot
29-06-09, 11:19 PM
Nice work, very impressive. The roof having chequers or something?

Something lol

Plug
29-06-09, 11:24 PM
baxter ment camo it up :thumb:

would look good few browns and ligher shades of green

The Simps
29-06-09, 11:49 PM
I also believe that a track car doesn't have to look like a complete bag of sh1t just because its a track car. It can still be tidy and tracked


You havin a pop again lad?! lol

Dec16v
30-06-09, 06:44 AM
Really liking this project, keep up the good work :)

skidmarkz
30-06-09, 08:25 AM
i give up james, you work is too fast lol, yet again awsome progress, im stuck on night work at the mo so little or no progress for the nova my end :(

Nick J
30-06-09, 09:39 AM
Thanks Nick that means a lot coming from you given the quality of your paint work, As for the callipers i couldn't help myself lol

I love the aspects of both show and track car building equally - i also believe that a track car doesn't have to look like a complete bag of sh1t just because its a track car. It can still be tidy and tracked, look at trackdaynovas for example (that was a general statement Nick nothing aimed at you)

I agree fella tbh and I think if I was to build track effort Id want it to look respectable too. Im looking forward to seeing the car built up as I think its going to look great whilst being very functional around the track. ;)

Count Vaux Alot
30-06-09, 05:47 PM
You havin a pop again lad?! lol

Erm yes lol


Really liking this project, keep up the good work :)

Thanks Dec :thumb:


i give up james, you work is too fast lol, yet again awsome progress, im stuck on night work at the mo so little or no progress for the nova my end :(

Night work...doesn't that mean you have all day to work on the car lol



I agree fella tbh and I think if I was to build track effort Id want it to look respectable too. Im looking forward to seeing the car built up as I think its going to look great whilst being very functional around the track. ;)

I'm looking forward to it being built up too i must crack on :roll:

skidmarkz
30-06-09, 06:02 PM
Night work...doesn't that mean you have all day to work on the car lol



well kinda, i start at 12 midday, finish at 3am, travelling is 2hrs, so sleeping has to take place at some point.. :(

Got a free weekend this weekend :)

Count Vaux Alot
30-06-09, 06:16 PM
well kinda, i start at 12 midday, finish at 3am, travelling is 2hrs, so sleeping has to take place at some point.. :(

Got a free weekend this weekend :)

Those hours are bollox but a free weekend is a result

Count Vaux Alot
30-06-09, 08:31 PM
Mini up date for tonight

I managed to get the other door all preped up and ready for some primer but dinner got in the way :roll:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted068.jpg

And also slipped the boot rubber on to see were the holes that have already been drilled in the boot line up to, inconveniently its no were that makes any sense :tard:.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted069.jpg

Thanks for looking :)

Benn
30-06-09, 08:32 PM
What holes? lol
Is it gonna get a lil showing at billing?

Count Vaux Alot
30-06-09, 08:47 PM
What holes? lol
Is it gonna get a lil showing at billing?

The pic is of the rubber Benn not the holes i didn't have enough hands to hold the hatch in place and take the picture :roll:

I hope it will be making an appearance at Billing yes but in what state i'm not sure yet as it all depends on progress.

Benn
30-06-09, 09:46 PM
Right thats why i didnt get what i was looking at...lol

And good, i wanna have a lookie!

Ernie
30-06-09, 10:13 PM
if you need a trailer your welcome to borrow mine mate.

Count Vaux Alot
30-06-09, 10:26 PM
if you need a trailer your welcome to borrow mine mate.

Thats very kind of you Chris, i'm trying to sort out transport now so i will let you know asap :thumb:

Ernie
30-06-09, 10:30 PM
ok bud you have my number..

Count Vaux Alot
30-06-09, 10:39 PM
ok bud you have my number..

Thanks Buddy + Rep for being a legend :D

srs1
30-06-09, 11:15 PM
looking good.

keep looking at this project for inspiration.

dhdev (Oli)
30-06-09, 11:21 PM
:cool:

Jonlem
01-07-09, 01:56 AM
Great progress James, I'll certainly be having a look at Billing !

Plug
01-07-09, 10:40 AM
Shame i can't get to billing would like to see this in person.
Oh well will have to pop up to combe when its done and finished :thumb:

t45_ste
01-07-09, 11:13 AM
Great work, i love the colour : )

Martin
01-07-09, 11:33 AM
just read the whole thread because after i was banned i lost all my subscriptions, and must say.. ~Wow.. one a few novas i'l be taken a good look at, at billing

see you in 10days lol

Count Vaux Alot
01-07-09, 06:11 PM
Thanks every one for your comments.

Oli i thought you were dead, and is it only 10 days bugger!

trackdaynova
01-07-09, 09:14 PM
all this faffing!

just get it on track, and progress from there!

Count Vaux Alot
01-07-09, 10:56 PM
all this faffing!

just get it on track, and progress from there!

Productive input as always darling :roll:

trackdaynova
01-07-09, 11:02 PM
stop being so sensitive you pansy...

i just hope after all this, you can actually pilot lol

burgo
01-07-09, 11:04 PM
10 days!!!!! fook

Count Vaux Alot
01-07-09, 11:09 PM
stop being so sensitive you pansy...

i just hope after all this, you can actually pilot lol

Stop being so negative then :p oh and i might sell it once its done lol

trackdaynova
01-07-09, 11:12 PM
lol... 'once its done'

Mine was 'done' in July 2007, when it was MOT'd, I broke it in January 2009, after 16 trackdays, 3 sprints and TOTB :confused:

Count Vaux Alot
01-07-09, 11:30 PM
lol now who's being sensitive - that wasn't aimed at you and your car more at you saying 'after all this' as i sold the saloon soon after it was finished. Mr ??? lol

Ernie
02-07-09, 07:03 AM
Hand bags down you two lol

skidmarkz
02-07-09, 10:35 AM
lol lovers tiff :P

Jonlem
03-07-09, 01:32 AM
HA HA, oh dear boys, get a room and sort yourselves out.

The Simps
03-07-09, 11:01 AM
HA HA, oh dear boys, get a room and sort yourselves out.


or sort each other out! lol

General Lee
03-07-09, 01:17 PM
Dutch rudder ftw. Who did you sell the saloon to dude?

Count Vaux Alot
03-07-09, 08:43 PM
The saloon went to a guy in ireland and wtf is dutch rudder??

Anyway here's an update of what i've been up to over the last couple of evenings as thats what this is supposed to be about lol

I got the drivers door all primed up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted070.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted071.jpg

Then while that was drying i decided to try fitting the rear bumper with some bonnet pins before i paint it black

Bonnet pins

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted073.jpg

This is the bumper iron up against the rear bumper showing how much i cut it down

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted072.jpg

i whipped these out and cleaned them up a bit then fitted them to the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted074.jpg

I removed this bracket from the bumper iron as i'm going to use it to mount the bonnet pins

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted075.jpg

Then using the holes in the bumper iron that the brackets were mounted through i drilled the bumper

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted077.jpg

Trial fitted

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted080.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted079.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted081.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted083.jpg

And complete

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted085.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted086.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted087.jpg

Count Vaux Alot
03-07-09, 08:44 PM
I then proceeded to rub down the high build primer on the N/S door

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted090.jpg

Wiped it all down and shot it in the green, then hung it out to dry

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted091.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted092.jpg

And moved on to the second door, all rubbed down and cleaned off ready to paint

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted093.jpg

This was the point were disaster struck i w a n k e d the first coat on like a cu nt and it ran like forest gump (i think i mixed in a little too much thinners what a c ock) so that will need addressing tomorrow :mad:

T oss

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted094.jpg

So given that the drivers door now didn't need another two coats as it was funked i decided to fit the passengers door rubber

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted095.jpg

And refitted the door

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted096.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted097.jpg

It nearly looks like a nova again - woop woop

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted098.jpg

Thanks you :thumb:

Plug
03-07-09, 08:48 PM
cracking on with the progress like normal :thumb:

bet you can see the track insight already :)

Count Vaux Alot
03-07-09, 09:19 PM
cracking on with the progress like normal :thumb:

bet you can see the track insight already :)

I can see it but there is still loads to do :roll:

chrisnovaturbo
03-07-09, 09:44 PM
looking good matey

Dec16v
03-07-09, 09:57 PM
i love to see something original, this is feckin sweet!!!

scott.parker
03-07-09, 10:05 PM
Looks really good

BUT..



You left the sound deadening in the doors! lol think of the weight.

Count Vaux Alot
04-07-09, 01:20 AM
lol

Benn
04-07-09, 02:29 PM
Are you pulling the ends of the bumpers out to match the arches?

stevie-p
04-07-09, 02:43 PM
looks feckin sweet mate as per usuall
keep up the good work

trackdaynova
04-07-09, 02:44 PM
looks mean as hell, mofo :thumb:

Geordie-Chris
04-07-09, 11:38 PM
Looks great dude! Is that the bonnet resting on top of the raised turrets?

Count Vaux Alot
05-07-09, 09:58 PM
Hello every one what a busy weekend its been....

I started by amending the paint on the door issue by sanding it all back

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted099.jpg

And painting it up - much better now

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted100.jpg

hanging out to dry

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted105.jpg

I moved swiftly on to the wings i fitted the head lights to check the fit of the wings on the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted103.jpg

Th wings needed some sanding back, and a little filling

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted102.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted104.jpg

and some more sanding

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted107.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted108.jpg

A good wipe down

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted109.jpg

then primer

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted110.jpg

Sanded the primer back using 150 grit (as it was high build and it went on heavy with some runs, bugs and general sh1te in it) then 320 grit to finish it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted111.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted112.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted113.jpg

and painted

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted114.jpg

Count Vaux Alot
05-07-09, 10:00 PM
Leaving the wings to dry i moved on to some head scratching, measuring and lining out in the roof area

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted116.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted119.jpg

can you guess what it is?....after masking up there was you guessed it some more sanding

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted121.jpg

Then some colour

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted123.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted126.jpg

Its come out well but its not finished - i have the smaller lines in the middle to do yet, thought it would be some thing a little different

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted130.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted131.jpg

While the roof was drying i fitted one of the back windows, dam their lite!
I also wanted to ask what rubbers/technique do people use to fit the front sliders??

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted129.jpg

And cut some triangles in the front bumper

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted127.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted128.jpg

Along with lightening one of the door handles prior to priming

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted132.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted133.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted134.jpg

And to finish a couple of pics with the front wings balanced on

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted135.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/carpainted136.jpg

Thank you

Benn
05-07-09, 10:00 PM
Awesome work, i wouldnt sand primer back with anything more than 320 tho.

Love the handles! Roof looks cool as, but looks to far forward...?

Jay
05-07-09, 10:01 PM
:)

Count Vaux Alot
05-07-09, 10:01 PM
Looks great dude! Is that the bonnet resting on top of the raised turrets?

The bonnet is sitting on some card board and a massive sheet of tarpaulin so its higher than it would be just sitting on the turrets :thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
05-07-09, 10:07 PM
Awesome work, i wouldnt sand primer back with anything more than 320 tho.

Love the handles! Roof looks cool as, but looks to far forward...?

Edited on the sanding methods just for you Benn lol

The roof has a gap at the front also its just a w a n k picture

Benn
05-07-09, 10:20 PM
lol ok dude, but you might find you'll see some sanding marks thru the paint even after a 320. 800 will get runs out.. and cool cool. Do love the car.

John
05-07-09, 10:23 PM
Top stuff! Looks funking ace!

Count Vaux Alot
05-07-09, 10:41 PM
Thanks again chaps :thumb:

gunny
05-07-09, 10:43 PM
Looking good james, the arches look mental!

scott.parker
05-07-09, 10:51 PM
Cool cool cool....

The Simps
06-07-09, 12:29 AM
starting to come together nicely now.

tony k
06-07-09, 02:22 PM
And shes home

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1046.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1047.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1048.jpg

One down one to go :thumb:

Again started off with a mark up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1043.jpg

Then the first cut

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1051.jpg

And some further butchery this ending today's session hope you enjoyed it lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1052.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1054.jpg

just been looking through your thread,what a wicked project there,like it alot,do you fancy doing my rear turrets,having issues with my tires rubbing on the coilovers:thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
06-07-09, 06:21 PM
just been looking through your thread,what a wicked project there,like it alot,do you fancy doing my rear turrets,having issues with my tires rubbing on the coilovers:thumb:

Cheers for the comments, the turrets are quite a big job so would be costly

stevei
06-07-09, 10:54 PM
looking good mate, love the wideness:thumb: if you use a 600 w&d you can paint a final coat over with no scratch opening when it drys. Have a look at the guide in articles for the front slider windows. I used it and the seals in question and it worked perfectly for me ( in my project wip aswell )

keep up the good work

ste

Paul
07-07-09, 12:02 AM
Im liking this car a lot, some detail going into it, even though its being built for being abused, have some rep that man!

Count Vaux Alot
07-07-09, 07:18 AM
Thanks for the advice, i'm looking into sealing options for the windows atm and i'm trying a few different ideas :thumb:

tony k
07-07-09, 08:44 AM
Cheers for the comments, the turrets are quite a big job so would be costly

how much we talking fella,send me a p.m if you want:thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
07-07-09, 08:45 PM
how much we talking fella,send me a p.m if you want:thumb:

I will have a think and get back to you :)

The Simps
07-07-09, 08:57 PM
How long did your arches take you start to finish mate? Michael took basically 3 1/2 days to do mine. Full 8/9 hour days at that.

alistairolsen
08-07-09, 10:15 AM
This is looking better and better with every post! really enjoying watching this come together!!


Oops sorry dude, looks great tho. And yeah that was me thinking on the rims hence the off set talk. Widing the wheels wont affect the offset at all.

Just to clear this up....

in-set, or backspace is the distance from the inner edge of the rim to the hub face and determines your inner arch clearance. This is a function of offset and width and is what youre concerned about benn to stop them hitting your tie bars.

Offset is the distance from the wheel centre to the hub mounting face and determines how the car handles with respect to scrub radius and various other geometric considerations.

When you widen a wheel on only one edge of the rim, the backspace doesnt change, so it will clear the inner arch, but the offset changes, so it will handle like a bag of ****e.

This is why most folk building 8" + wheels use them only up pod with slicks in a straight line, and most people on track stick to 7 inch wheels with an offset of more than 45mm as this is the max width that can be accommodated if you add the same to both edges before you run into issues with tiebars and the inner arch.

tony k
08-07-09, 10:19 AM
I will have a think and get back to you :)

cheers fella :thumb:

The Simps
08-07-09, 11:05 AM
Just to clear this up....

in-set, or backspace is the distance from the inner edge of the rim to the hub face and determines your inner arch clearance. This is a function of offset and width and is what youre concerned about benn to stop them hitting your tie bars.

Offset is the distance from the wheel centre to the hub mounting face and determines how the car handles with respect to scrub radius and various other geometric considerations.

When you widen a wheel on only one edge of the rim, the backspace doesnt change, so it will clear the inner arch, but the offset changes, so it will handle like a bag of ****e.

This is why most folk building 8" + wheels use them only up pod with slicks in a straight line, and most people on track stick to 7 inch wheels with an offset of more than 45mm as this is the max width that can be accommodated if you add the same to both edges before you run into issues with tiebars and the inner arch.


Well put.

Benn
08-07-09, 04:23 PM
Offset is the distance from the wheel centre to the hub mounting face

When you widen a wheel on only one edge of the rim, the backspace doesnt change, so it will clear the inner arch, but the offset changes,

Anless i'm reading that wrong your saying two things.

Offset is center to hub face, that wont chance when cutting the lip off and adding a larger lip to it. As your only adding the extra size on the front surely..

Rick Draper
08-07-09, 04:36 PM
Anless i'm reading that wrong your saying two things.

Offset is center to hub face, that wont chance when cutting the lip off and adding a larger lip to it. As your only adding the extra size on the front surely..

Offset is the total distance from the centre line of the wheel from front to back faces then you take a measurement from that line to the mounting face where the wheel joins the hub/disk/drum. It will change for certain by adding a deeper lip:thumb:

Benn
08-07-09, 04:39 PM
Ah thought it was all taken from the center now the outer lips.

Count Vaux Alot
08-07-09, 05:51 PM
Well put.

Agreed - very well put

MK999
08-07-09, 08:16 PM
Anless i'm reading that wrong your saying two things.

Offset is center to hub face, that wont chance when cutting the lip off and adding a larger lip to it. As your only adding the extra size on the front surely..

It is taken from the centre, and it will change, if you make something wider the centre moves.


|...|...| if you add 4 dots to the LHS side of that it becomes: |.......|...| but the centre is now in the wrong place, it should be: |.....|.....|

Make sense?

Benn
08-07-09, 08:38 PM
I know, see my other reply, thought et was center back.

MK999
08-07-09, 09:58 PM
Ok, your reply didn't make sense to me lol Long as everyone gets it it's all cool, just trying to help :thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
08-07-09, 10:18 PM
So what exactly is ET?? lol

MK999
08-07-09, 10:20 PM
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/mar2009/8/1/ET_53686645.jpg

trackdaynova
08-07-09, 10:22 PM
ET is an abbreviation for ETA

Therefore, it stands for Estimated Time lol

LiquidPug
08-07-09, 10:23 PM
Einpresstiefe - insertion depth ;)