The Counts Track Day Nova Build

[Southie]

Wow some cracking workmenship going into this now :thumb:

Looks soild welding on the struts. How many hours did it take to get all aligned up and tacted into place? Between the welder nearly on melt down :D

[Count Vaux Alot]

I then moved back to the N/S to continue welding the turret in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1111.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1114.jpg

As you can see in the pic below there is still a fare bit of material that needs to be removed once i have welded the turret in from the inner arch side (i still have this to do)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1115.jpg

Again whilst waiting for the welder i cut these up to possibly use on the turret tops to mount the cage (even more strength to the turret tops!)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1116.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1117.jpg

And they should look a little something like this if they will fit with the cage

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1118.jpg

Once the welder was ready to go again i finished off the turret plates on the O/S

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1120.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1121.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

Here are another couple just because i liked them lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1123.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1105.jpg

And thats me done for today thanks for looking :thumb: :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Can anyone guess what these are for? ;)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/sillandturrets027.jpg
Anyone else???? ;) :D lol ;) :D lol

[Pistol Pete]

F--- knows lol

I do know one thing...that is some top notch fabrication skills on show there. Good work.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Wow some cracking workmenship going into this now :thumb:

Looks soild welding on the struts. How many hours did it take to get all aligned up and tacted into place? Between the welder nearly on melt down :D

Why thanks...to get them aligned up and tacked in to place it must of taken 10 hours! And it will probably be nearly 20 hours all in but they have come out well IMO so i'm happy :thumb:

[Southie]

Anyone else???? ;) :D lol ;) :D lol

I know...




... your going to give it wings like chitty chitty bang bang lol

How about reiforced door sills maybe? :confused:

[Graeme]

Some lovely 'runs' there made, another quality update

[Ernie]

I have an idear ?

There for your seat rails ?

[Count Vaux Alot]

I know...
How about reiforced door sills maybe? :confused:


I have an idear ?

There for your seat rails ?

Not quite either of you lol

[Jay]

Cracking mate, one question, do you have a job? lol

[MK999]

Just read this the whole way through (housemates had high school musical on, f*** that lol) Some quality fabrication work etc, and the ideas it's built to are great, low weight and no holds barred on the performance! That race head is pure engineering porn too lol

[Ernie]

Are you going to put markers on them at messured distances very similar to a ruler ?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Cracking mate, one question, do you have a job? lol

I do indeed 08:00-16:00 5 days a week plus over time lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Just read this the whole way through (housemates had high school musical on, f*** that lol) Some quality fabrication work etc, and the ideas it's built to are great, low weight and no holds barred on the performance! That race head is pure engineering porn too lol


I know what you mean about the head it really is porno lol I'm glad you took the time to have a read (to be fair death by anal fisting is better that high school musical lol)

The car is meant to be a track car so it has different specifications to daily drivers, basically if it makes you quicker i want one lol

[Southie]

I do indeed 08:00-16:00 5 days a week plus over time lol

You work at Vauxhall as a welder and this weeks project was your own motor. We know lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

You work at Vauxhall as a welder and this weeks project was your own motor. We know lol

That guess was further off than the chitty chitty bang bang one lol i wish thought as that would be cool as funk

[The Simps]

gonna be a shame to cover up them welds with seam sealer! I've told you before tho - you need to slow down, you're putting too many of us to shame!!

are the strips for taggin in the cage to the shell?

[Count Vaux Alot]

gonna be a shame to cover up them welds with seam sealer! I've told you before tho - you need to slow down, you're putting too many of us to shame!!

are the strips for taggin in the cage to the shell?

I may not cover the welds inside the car yet (more weight lol) i might just paint them with everything else. I can't help myself as far as progress is concerned, i would still be out there if it wasn't for the neighbours!

as for your guess its the most logical so far but WRONG lol

[MK999]

(to be fair death by anal fisting is better that high school musical lol)

too true, I'd rep you for it but I have to spread it around lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

too true, I'd rep you for it but I have to spread it around lol

lol lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hi everyone here is todays up date for you

I cleaned up the N/S turret and stitched up the seams

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1125.jpg

Removed the centre of the rear spring plate (extra weight lol)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1129.jpg

Then ground back all the overlap on the turret so it was nice and neat

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1130.jpg

And did a little more stitching

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1132.jpg

While waiting for the whole are to cool on the N/S i moved on to the O/S - cleaned it up, stitched it up, and painted it, this was very satisfiying to see as it was all coming together with the etch priming!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1133.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1134.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1135.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1137.jpg

Instead of watching the pain dry i went inside the car and did the opposite...i got the morz out and stripped off the paint from the seams around the inner wheel arches ready to be stitched.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1139.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1138.jpg

Once the paint was off i got on with stitching the seams inside the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1140.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1141.jpg

Then it was time to clean up and paint the inside of the N/S turret as so

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1142.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1143.jpg

[Plug]

may i say you have done a cracking job on them turrets :thumb:
Making me want to try to do mine but it would look sh1te lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Nearly completed all the work inner arch wise! So its back to the inside of the car to clean up the turrets and dust them over with acid etch (its just to keep the atmosphere off them for the minute as i will have to weld the cage in shortly)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1145.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1146.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1147.jpg

Paint...

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1148.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1149.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1150.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1151.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1152.jpg

Nice and level looking out of the car (the turrets not my inability to take a level picture, in my defence the car is on its side lol)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1153.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1154.jpg

And looking into the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1156.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1157.jpg

Lots of loose ends tied up tonight which i'm happy with still loads to do though :thumb: :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

may i say you have done a cracking job on them turrets :thumb:
Making me want to try to do mine but it would look sh1te lol


Thanks that is good to hear as i wasn't going to bother but i then thought of the advantages (more room in the arch and longer shock travel) and just went for it - i think they have turned out well :D

[Plug]

i agree with you there they have turned out spot on :thumb:

So when you doing mine lol

[vaughanmc]

Looking good mate, another awsome build :)

You welding in a rear strut brace ?

[Count Vaux Alot]

i agree with you there they have turned out spot on :thumb:

So when you doing mine lol

Even if my best mate in the whole world asked me to fit some of these i would only do it for a huge sum of monies or sexual favours or a combo of the too as they are a PITA to do even on your own car lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Looking good mate, another awsome build :)

You welding in a rear strut brace ?

No sure yet as the cage has a brace very close to the turrets and a rear brace might be unnecessary and/or look out of place but we will see....

[Benn]

Love the turret work dude, wish my fab work was better.
Weldings great too. Doing a great job, gonna be a awesome build and car.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Love the turret work dude, wish my fab work was better.
Weldings great too. Doing a great job, gonna be a awesome build and car.

IMO the best is still to come ;) ;)

[Benn]

Then get on with it! :P

[peester]

nova of the year already, eh?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Then get on with it! :P

lol i would but i'm lacking motivation at the moment lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

nova of the year already, eh?

Thats a statement at this stage in the build...let me finish it first :thumb:

[Benn]

lol i would but i'm lacking motivation at the moment lol

Wells youve done quite a bit all ready..lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Wells youve done quite a bit all ready..lol

The turrets were a big job so have taken a while, once i have finished the under side of the car (hopefully before the wkend) i can put the car back on its feet and get on with fitting the cage, seat rails and a few other bits.

[Benn]

Sounds good dude.

[Jay]

Looks almost OE :thumb:

[AlexW]

Looking good dude. Will be awesome to see it finished.

[gunny]

Just read from start to finish count...

...WOW!! top noch pal...

...and now i must sleep :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Looks almost OE :thumb:

I wanted to achieve a neat finish as they are on direct view in the back and would look rubbish if they were hashed up ;)

[The Simps]

I've got the same blanket!! (on the screen)

[Count Vaux Alot]

Its seen some action that blanket lol lol

[Shaun_O'Donnell]

Will the tops of the rear turrets be thickened, just seems a little thin in my opinion.

What condition is the saloon in these days?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Will the tops of the rear turrets be thickened, just seems a little thin in my opinion.

What condition is the saloon in these days?

:confused: :confused: They have been thickened?? They are now 4mm which is thicker than standard plus i will be mounting the 'slash cut tube' to the top of the turret that will then be mounted to the cage....

The saloon is fine :D :D ;)

[Shaun_O'Donnell]

Apologies, didn't look back far enough.

It's not feeling neglected is it?

[The Simps]

It's not feeling neglected is it?


Not as much as his missus!! He's been out late in the garage every night this week it seems! Still at least she gets to watch corrie & eastenders in peace :thumb:

[Shaun_O'Donnell]

^^ That's not neglect, that's being nice.

Neglect is sitting in the same room, ignoring her, watching what you want to watch and farting randomly.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Apologies, didn't look back far enough.

It's not feeling neglected is it?

It probably is but it will be up for sale soon so its new owned can love it :)

As for the missus don't even go there, i've said once i've got the car done we can start to save for a house so all is fair - i get to do the car quickly so we can start saving :thumb:

[bowman]

i've said once i've got the car done we can start to save for a house....


My wife would never buy that line!.... "quicker i get it done the sooner we can decorate the house... " id be in b+b!lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

I probably will be....

[14sr Lad]

F***in brilliant build!!..... :thumb:
just after spendin the last 2hrs readin it from start!!,
wish i could build like that!!

How doya add rep, you def deserve it!!

[Count Vaux Alot]

F***in brilliant build!!..... :thumb:
just after spendin the last 2hrs readin it from start!!,
wish i could build like that!!

How doya add rep, you def deserve it!!

Thanks...to add rep click on the middle icon in the bottom left hand corner above the 'post reply' button and follow the instructions :thumb:

[trackdaynova]

Good work James :) nice to see it coming along swiftly

[Ernie]

Olly is alive lol.
Were you been hideing ?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Good work James :) nice to see it coming along swiftly

Cheers mate like Ernie said its nice to see you are alive lol

[corsakid]

this build is awesome very detailed and a lot of work, thought and planning have gone into the build, one of the best builds going on at the minute thumbs up keep it up! :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks mate appreciate it! :D

[Ernie]

so were is the pics from today as im sure you couldnt of left it alone for a hole saturday....

[trackdaynova]

i should hope he can, he has a girlfriend too!

[Count Vaux Alot]

UP DATE!!!! Not from today though.........

Seam sealed the turrets inner arch side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1159.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1160.jpg

Questions questions...

Any know the significance of the socket???

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1158.jpg

I'll tell you....round edges lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1161.jpg

And one gear shift hole cover

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1164.jpg

Cleaned the area up and got rid of the sharp edges from the spot welds

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1162.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1163.jpg

And welded it in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1165.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1166.jpg

Then cleaned it up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1167.jpg

And sealed the under side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1169.jpg

Then i covered up the rest of the holes in the under side of the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1168.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1170.jpg

And stuck a few more stitches in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1171.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

And gave it a good blacking with some stone chip! :D

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1172.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1173.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1174.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1175.jpg

More to follow after dinner :cool: :thumb:

[Ernie]

looking good James.

ps thanks for the pic's
x x

[vaughanmc]

How many coats of that did you/are you going to give it ? :)

[Count Vaux Alot]

i should hope he can, he has a girlfriend too!

Yes i have a girl friend, yes i have spent a lot of time on the car, yes she is very understanding and i am very grateful.

[Count Vaux Alot]

How many coats of that did you/are you going to give it ? :)

Two or as many as you think it needs it can be applied thickly :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

looking good James.

ps thanks for the pic's
x x

Cheers Chris :D here come some more for ya x

[vaughanmc]

Two or as many as you think it needs it can be applied thickly :thumb:

Nice one fella :thumb:

Get it caked on! :)

[Count Vaux Alot]

I started thinking about the cage as the car was nearly ready to go horizontal again so i profiled up my rear diagonal

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1176.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1178.jpg

And slipped her in - oh er

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1179.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1181.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1182.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1183.jpg

Snug as a bug

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1184.jpg

So today after work and repairing a cement mixer drum (don't ask!) i welded the diagonal in place.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1185.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1186.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1187.jpg

The i had a good clean up so i could tip the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1188.jpg

Back on the ground

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1189.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1190.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1191.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

With a clean up going on (and the fact the car was now taking up more space) i shifted the engine from behind the car to the engine stand so i could start tidying it up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1194.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1195.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1196.jpg

Once the primer had dried on the cage i had a play with it in the car ready to make up some spreader plates

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1197.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1200.jpg

This pretty much funked my turret top plans - rethink needed as they don't meet the turret were i expected they would....:mad:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1198.jpg

Then Marmite thought she saw a mouse

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1201.jpg

and here

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1202.jpg

Or was it there lol notice the attempt to take a pic of the car in the back ground

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1204.jpg

And the front - it fits well

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1205.jpg

Another question...which ones shall i use as they have multiplied???

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1207.jpg lol

And some more messing around just because - the sill repair looks ok from this angle so i'm happy!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1209.jpg

[novashed]

nice workfella, love propper stonechip, used it on my inner arches, wish id of done what you have with the underside, but too far gone now lol,

putting another diagonal in the cage?

[Count Vaux Alot]

nice workfella, love propper stonechip, used it on my inner arches, wish id of done what you have with the underside, but too far gone now lol,

putting another diagonal in the cage?

Stone chip is really good stuff and worth doing imo. Not sure what you mean another diagonal? :confused:

[novashed]

ie a cross so it intersects the one youve just put in, i never did but asthetically more pleasing lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

ie a cross so it intersects the one youve just put in, i never did but asthetically more pleasing lol

I thought thats what you meant (a cross diagonal lol) i think i will leave it as it is i don't need any more weight!!! :eek:

[Ernie]

looking good.

[scott.parker]

That's looking awsome now mate, really good job on the turrets, are you waiting till the beam is back on the shell for the possition of the shock, so you can drill the hole?

Scott

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hi Scott i'm waiting on a couple of things - firstly the fact i don't have any rear coil overs yet!!!!!! And i wanted to know how the cage was going to sit before going a head. They will be drilled soon.

[scott.parker]

lol always help if you have the shocks!

As for the cage, is it an SD one? And in the pics it look as if the legs fall short of the rear arch/turrets? not sure though as you have them coverd up, if they do you could make a small box type mount to bridge the gap (think Lee had to do something like this)

Scott

PS: im off to do some work on mine! "SHOCK":eek: :eek:

[The Simps]

Looking good as always chap - you never fail to give an entertaning update as opposed to just messing with the ride height! lol

I see you've also trimmed out the rear panel ready for a Dar style diffuser?

Cage/turrets malarky is a bit of an **** but I'm confident you'll find a win win solution.

Are the strips just off cuts you're keeping with the aim of just using the best fit for shiny sill/kick plates?

[corsakid]

or are the strips for tagging the cage to the shell?

[Jay]

Looks awesome James, Are the clear rears staying? Whens its due to be out and ready then?

Jay.

[trackdaynova]

I'm soooooooo gagging to tell what the strips are for! :D Great idea by me!

Put it this way, I feel that this will seperate this Nova from the others... not to big it up or anything lol

[Ash]

Tidy work there matey! I'm going to guess the strips are for the rear splitter or some form of ground effects type thing...

[dhdev (Oli)]

I'm soooooooo gagging to tell what the strips are for! :D Great idea by me!

Put it this way, I feel that this will seperate this Nova from the others... not to big it up or anything lol

Go-kart style side-rubbing strips so that it can make it round corners, computer game stylee lol

[Ash]

lol ^ping-pong nova!

[Ernie]

I'm soooooooo gagging to tell what the strips are for! :D Great idea by me!

Put it this way, I feel that this will seperate this Nova from the others... not to big it up or anything lol

Its good to be in the know lol
:thumb:
And yes this will be a new bench mark set imho.

[The Simps]

as a clue olly & ernie, will the strips be fitted as is or will then need trimming/adjusting etc?

[Ernie]

ive said enough so going stum now sorry..

[MK999]

Bent round about 30 degrees each, welded together and attached via pulleys to the fanbelt to make a propellor to mount on front? lol

[The Simps]

They're the bars for the cott he has to make for all the promises he's making to the missus ;)

[trackdaynova]

I daren't give any more away, as James has pics of me naked that he's not afraid to use lol

[The Simps]

I'd rather you didn't then! No offence ;) lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Well i can say there may be a rear diffuser and a whole 'flat' floor going in at some point but not at this moment...all your guesses are wrong...i thought it was quite obvious...maybe not but to put you all out of your misery up date coming up after dinner....i hope you arn't disappointed lol As for Oli's idea it should help with going round corners but not bumper car stylee....

I want to have it finished by May - perhaps the PNG day a combe but we will see how it goes.

[Ernie]

cant wait but i already know lol.

[The Simps]

are you going to square the arches for clearance dtm stylee?

[Ash]

only other things I can think are some sort of lower strut brace or a dash, of sorts :confused: quite interested to see now lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Right i know i have been teasing you all for a while now but, i have got to the point now were i can reveal what the strips of 2mm steel are for...i'm not sure how may people have tried this before but i haven't seen it done? So i thought i would give it a go and its turned out well!

So here goes it all started like this (and yes Olly and i did discuss the idea but i'm not letting him take all the credit :p)

Two front turrets

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1193.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1192.jpg

A straight edge and a measuring stick - note i have temporarily fitted some front wings

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1212.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1213.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1215.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1214.jpg

And some strips of metal

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1207.jpg

....Any one got it yet???

I think i can feel a custom bonnet coming on

So after some careful measurements and a bit of head scratching i marked out a datum line to work from - 80mm down from the edge of the hole in the top of the strut.

As so

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1216.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1217.jpg

Marked out some more reference points and got the grinder out

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1219.jpg

Chomp!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1220.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1221.jpg

Any one know where you can get replacement front turrets from???? lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Then to solve the mystery it was time to use one of the strips of steel i went for a comfortable 45mm

I started by profiling it roughly to shape

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1222.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1223.jpg

Then began taking it in after i had cleaned up the seams

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1224.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1225.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1226.jpg

tried the 'lid' on for size and made a few small alterations

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1227.jpg

And tacked it on

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1229.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1231.jpg

And started to weld it all in until the welded decided it was hot as funk again

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1232.jpg

So while i was waiting for the welder to cool i decided to make up some supports for the new extension.

I gave the turret a clean up and removed all the excess weld (weight) once i had finished the welding that is.

Here they are....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1234.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1237.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1235.jpg

And a smaller one on the out side of the turret

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1239.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1240.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1241.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

Its going in there

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1242.jpg

All welded in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1243.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1244.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1246.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1245.jpg

Gave it a good clean up and a prime for tonight

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1247.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1248.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1249.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1250.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1251.jpg

I think its come out well?

The back edge (bulk head side) in the pic below will have some sort of tag in device for the front legs of the cage so i haven't touched that yet

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1252.jpg

What y'all think worth the wait???

[The Simps]

well worth the wait! I might not need custom front coilovers after all!!

Does the bonnet fit is the next question....

[Iain]

That's mental, nice work.

[Adam]

Fcuking hell, you've got bollocks i'll give you that! lol
To go cutting the turrets off lol


+rep

Edit-It wont let me rep you anymore! lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

well worth the wait! I might not need custom front coilovers after all!!

Does the bonnet fit is the next question....
Erm i don't know yet until i have dont the other side, but you could make them so it would fit (just)....

My options if it doesn't fit jack the back of the bonnet as may people do (i will be using bonnet pins so that would be easy) or as i'm going FG bonnet i could customise it so it has two sexual buldges either side :thumb:

[Adam]

I gaurantee you that the bonnet wont fit.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Oh and anyone want a whose nova can go the lowest competition??? lol lol

Cheers btw Adam! :thumb:

[The Simps]

Oh and anyone want a whose nova can go the lowest competition??? lol lol


you're a bitch!

[Count Vaux Alot]

lol lol

[The Simps]

I know looks can be deceiving but I don't a standard bonnet would fit with the skeleton still in place. Don't forget you got the height of the piston & nut aswell.

dam cool idea tho.

[The Simps]

given my welding ability I think I'm gonna stick with shorter shocks! lol

[The Simps]

oh, u running 15s, 16s, 17s?

[Count Vaux Alot]

I know looks can be deceiving but I don't a standard bonnet would fit with the skeleton still in place. Don't forget you got the height of the piston & nut aswell.

dam cool idea tho.

I can safely say a standard bonnet would not fit...but when has that ever been a problem lol

I will probably run 15's, 16's or 17's lol but who knows what ever the funk i want lol

[Ernie]

looking good james

[Ash]

Reminds me of this:

http://www.hilmersson-racing.com/bilder/Bildgalleri/Manta_galleri5.jpg

;) Cool as funk. Good work that man!

[Count Vaux Alot]

Cheers Ernie did they come out as you imagined?

Thanks for that pic Ash its given me a semi lol

[dhdev (Oli)]

Wouldn't you have been better off tubbing the front end? what's the inner arch clearance like? And TCA angle, surely you're gonna need to raise the inner TCA mounting points?
Not meaning to piss on your bonfire, and fair play for having the balls to attack it like you do!

[t45_ste]

Oh and anyone want a whose nova can go the lowest competition??? lol lol

Cheers btw Adam! :thumb:

I will enter lol

[Ernie]

Cheers Ernie did they come out as you imagined?

Thanks for that pic Ash its given me a semi lol

fare play mate i wouldnt of even tryed it lol.
:thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Wouldn't you have been better off tubbing the front end? what's the inner arch clearance like? And TCA angle, surely you're gonna need to raise the inner TCA mounting points?
Not meaning to piss on your bonfire, and fair play for having the balls to attack it like you do!

:confused: not sure Oli - It was mainly done to give good shock travel not to go major low so the TCA angle, inner arch clearance and Inner TCA mounting point shouldn't need and alterations....so ithink you can keep ypur piss to yourself lol

[scott.parker]

Dude your mad! As soon as i saw the markings i thought, ah this to allow for that 2" move of the rack! good man...top job.

Scott

[Count Vaux Alot]

I will enter lol

Cool just let me know when yours gets done lol

[dhdev (Oli)]

:confused: not sure Oli - It was mainly done to give good shock travel not to go major low so the TCA angle, inner arch clearance and Inner TCA mounting point shouldn't need and alterations....so ithink you can keep ypur piss to yourself lol

Furry muff, I thought you were planning on going crazy low. I know I'm sounding really negative but..... is the extra shock travel even needed on a track car? I've never had a problem with bottoming out, running normal lowered height (70ish mm??)

[t45_ste]

Cool just let me know when yours gets done lol

lol ******* :cry:


Great things come to those that wait...................

[Count Vaux Alot]

Furry muff, I thought you were planning on going crazy low. I know I'm sounding really negative but..... is the extra shock travel even needed on a track car? I've never had a problem with bottoming out, running normal lowered height (70ish mm??)

No probably not but why not if you can?

I'm going on my experiences with the saloon and the way the ride/handling is when its low (not silly low 70-90mm) and imo its w@nk so i want the option of running full travel (as even a 70mm drop compresses the shocks) and being able to drop it down too, so i thought funk it i'll give it a go.

And yer you are being very negative lol

[Rick Draper]

TBH biggest issue running urba low on a nova is not suspension angles its necking out the CV joints.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/Novapicsoffoldpc153.jpg

That was my nova on its ledas running the highest possible i could run.

O and it still had a ruck load of travel to go.

[dhdev (Oli)]

No probably not but why not if you can?
WEIGHT :p

Fair play for trying something new, the proof will be in the puddin as they say :)

I wuv you and your car :D (is that more positive lol)

[trackdaynova]

love the way Oli is being negative because its something his car doesn't have lol

brill work James, proper bo, glad it worked out as we planned it

regardless of 'needing' the shock travel Oli, the more you have, the better it is, you can't argue with that.

[dhdev (Oli)]

love the way Oli is being negative because its something his car doesn't have lol
That's because its heavy :p

[trackdaynova]

Rick - James won't have to worry about shaft plunge angle either, from what we're working on ;)

[Benn]

Christ the front turrets look... Well crazy. Love the fab work, would rep you if i could.

Are they still under the height of the wings?

[The Simps]

Rick - James won't have to worry about shaft plunge angle either, from what we're working on ;)


This is my largest concern.

[Ernie]

That's because its heavy :p

I think you see today what a heavy big block nova can go like lol.
:thumb:

[dhdev (Oli)]

I think you see today what a heavy big block nova can go like lol.
:thumb:
I've never doubted the straight line performance :thumb: lol

[Ernie]

i was having no probs in the corners apart from not nowing ware we were going lol.

[trackdaynova]

I've never doubted the straight line performance :thumb: lolits OK Chris, I shown Oli the way last PV show, or on the way there... that was straight line anyway

Oh yeah, I also shown him how to go around corners fast in December last year too lol

[dhdev (Oli)]

its OK Chris, I shown Oli the way last PV show, or on the way there... that was straight line anyway

Oh yeah, I also shown him how to go around corners fast in December last year too lol

:cry:

[Adam]

Whats this, pick on Oli day? lol lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Yer funk it Oli you jealous bastid you just cant take it that Big Block is best lol lol

[trackdaynova]

with the same amount of power (allegedly) and over 120kg ladended less (allegedly) I'm suprised you didn't own me. :p lol

nothing to do with the cubic capacity of your block mind, just the above facts lol :D loving the banter

[Ernie]

na we had a good day today but nothing wrong with a bit of banter lol.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Christ the front turrets look... Well crazy. Love the fab work, would rep you if i could.

Are they still under the height of the wings?

They are at wing level now....

[Ernie]

i was carrying a bacon and egg roll aswell lol.

[Count Vaux Alot]

with the same amount of power (allegedly) and over 120kg ladended less (allegedly) I'm suprised you didn't own me. :p lol

nothing to do with the cubic capacity of your block mind, just the above facts lol :D loving the banter

Some very good points you make there Olly and I should be up on power and down on weight compared to your old car :D :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

TBH biggest issue running urba low on a nova is not suspension angles its necking out the CV joints.

That was my nova on its ledas running the highest possible i could run.

O and it still had a ruck load of travel to go.

As Olly said i am already aware of this...my saloon is lower that that atm so i am fully aware of the issues surrounding drive shaft angle etc and will be trying to address this issue....

[Rick Draper]

Sounds good but TBH i dont see where the idea that low = good for a track car? To a point imho but if you want to run that low the you need to do as olly says and change the lower pivot placement, raise rack etc. Would be easier to cut the front off and space frame it all imho, then you would end up with ideal suspension geometry for what you are seaming to want to achieve?

I realize you have done the turret mod for suspension travel (where as i got custom shocks). That was the highest i could physically run my car, it also had the sump around 2" off the floor.

I would guess you are looking towards a dry sump, shallower bell housing, raising the diff up (seen the sequential box mentioned).

[Rick Draper]

regardless of 'needing' the shock travel Oli, the more you have, the better it is, you can't argue with that.

Not really as it can end up been at the expense of droop which is also as important as travel.

[dhdev (Oli)]

with the same amount of power (allegedly) and over 120kg ladended less (allegedly) I'm suprised you didn't own me. :p lol

nothing to do with the cubic capacity of your block mind, just the above facts lol :D loving the banter

I had a faulty coil pack and standard box, you know that Mr Hewitt, you know that! :mad:

lollollol

[corsakid]

+1 rep james awesome work, did i hear the word sequential? what a car this is going to be

[Count Vaux Alot]

Sounds good but TBH i dont see where the idea that low = good for a track car? To a point imho but if you want to run that low the you need to do as olly says and change the lower pivot placement, raise rack etc. Would be easier to cut the front off and space frame it all imho, then you would end up with ideal suspension geometry for what you are seaming to want to achieve?

I realize you have done the turret mod for suspension travel (where as i got custom shocks). That was the highest i could physically run my car, it also had the sump around 2" off the floor.

I would guess you are looking towards a dry sump, shallower bell housing, raising the diff up (seen the sequential box mentioned).

As said before i'm not going super low and i have already raised the rack.

As you said i will be 'looking towards a dry sump, shallower bell housing, and raising the diff' all in the future as im not money money atm :thumb:

Do you know if a shallower bell housing is available?

[matthew172]

Would be easier to cut the front off and space frame it all imho, then you would end up with ideal suspension geometry for what you are seaming to want to achieve



like this prehaps?


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/matthew172/DSC05258-1.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/matthew172/DSC05255-1.jpg

[The Simps]

^^^ looks interesting!!!

shame its not rwd.

[Count Vaux Alot]

like this prehaps?


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/matthew172/DSC05258-1.jpg



Pics like this are no good for my health...lol lol

I would love to do something like that but i'll be honest and say i'm not that genned up on the idea - granted if i had enough photos i could easily copy it but to build something like this from scratch would take a lot of head scratching and i really want to use the car this year.

+rep though - anyone else got any pics like this......?

[trackdaynova]

dude it looks like that thing would weigh more than a Vectra lol

[Matt]

I can imagine you've seen them and I'm not sure if they're of any use but...

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff60/mattmdavies/95fcb43a.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff60/mattmdavies/8e5f1e1a.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff60/mattmdavies/0f3ec0a8.jpg

:confused:

[Count Vaux Alot]

A Vectra?! don't you mean a car transported carrying 6 Vectras lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Matt i have seen Austins before yes but thanks for the input - As Olly has pointed out its enough weight to give Oli a period and sh!t him self all at once plus the time factor and at then end of the day i don't want to go there atm so i will continue as i am for the moment.

[Matt]

lol Fairdoos.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Had a bit of a mince after Dinner with the missus tonight...

I made a start on the front cage legs to front turrets mountings

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1253.jpg

Bent up another 45mm strip

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1254.jpg

Then cut the funk out of the O/S turret

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1255.jpg

And tacked it in as before

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1257.jpg

Nice and level

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1259.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1260.jpg

Started to weld it in and clean it up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1262.jpg

Made up another set of supports and welded those in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1263.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1264.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1265.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1266.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1267.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

Here are some pics to put the turret height in to perspective with the wings in place

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1268.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1269.jpg

And the gap between the straight edge balanced on the wings and the turrets

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1270.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1271.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1272.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1273.jpg

And some others for the hell of it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1274.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1275.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1276.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1277.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1278.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1279.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1280.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1281.jpg

Enjoy :D

[Benn]

+rep though - anyone else got any pics like this......?

Not quite as good but..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Crap/image008.jpg

[trackdaynova]

yes, yes, yes. simple as that. :D

[Benn]

Turrets are funking ace, fit seams just right too.

[Count Vaux Alot]

That would handle like a dream.....NOT lol

[Graeme]

Never fails to amaze me

[trackdaynova]

be sure to run a seam of weld across the top of the front strengthening support on the offside, wouldn't want filling up with water and rusting from the inside out :D lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

yes, yes, yes. simple as that. :D

Do you mean my attempt Darling?

[Count Vaux Alot]

fit seams just right too.

Keh?

[trackdaynova]

struggling to understand the basics tonight darling? lol

yes, yes, yes as in "good work"

ffs

[Count Vaux Alot]

be sure to run a seam of weld across the top of the front strengthening support on the offside, wouldn't want filling up with water and rusting from the inside out :D lol

They arnt finished yet Olly you silly billy lol lol fecking welders duty time is ****e when your giving it large :roll:

[Benn]

As in the fit is perfect to tyhe wings and that they are level.

[Count Vaux Alot]

struggling to understand the basics tonight darling? lol

yes, yes, yes as in "good work"

ffs

You could have been commenting on the photo directly above your post....not that you would to be fair

[Count Vaux Alot]

As in the fit is perfect to tyhe wings and that they are level.

Roger that :thumb:

[trackdaynova]

Roger whom? lol

Yes, you're correct James, I was not commenting on the photo Benn posted, but to your progress from tonight love.

PS: might aswell abuse the forum, can you ask Danni to check her Facebook messages please. Ta. x

[Count Vaux Alot]

Roger roger roger.....

[burgo]

They arnt finished yet Olly you silly billy lol lol fecking welders duty time is ****e when your giving it large :roll:whip the power side cover off and have a desk fan blowing on it whilst welding. i bet it never cuts out :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Great idea but ive been there and tried it to no real avail - can you see it sitting on the welder in the photo lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/turrets1278.jpg

[novadoneitthistime]

:confused: not sure Oli - It was mainly done to give good shock travel not to go major low so the TCA angle, inner arch clearance and Inner TCA mounting point shouldn't need and alterations....so ithink you can keep ypur piss to yourself lol

That's totally the reason my Fiesta rally machine had modded turrets, can set the ride height low if desired and still have lots of lovely suspension travel.

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp237/novadoneitthistime/Image313.jpg

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp237/novadoneitthistime/Image315.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

Yes matey but less of this Fiesta business lol

[novadoneitthistime]

hahahahaha. multicultural.

[dhdev (Oli)]

Quality workmanship as always James :D

[Count Vaux Alot]

Cheers mate!

[John]

Wow, top turret modifications looks the business!! I Have wondered why no-one has done this before! How much have you welded in James? is the f/g bonnet single skin?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Wow, top turret modifications looks the business!! I Have wondered why no-one has done this before! How much have you welded in James? is the f/g bonnet single skin?

Thanks John...not sure what you mean how much have i welded in? If its the extra height in the turret its 45mm.
And i will be looking for a single skin bonnet :thumb:

[John]

Lol yeah thats what i meant.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Tinker from tonight people not a great deal done as there was a lot of 'looking' going on (by myself i may add) lol mainly due to the issue surrounding my front cage leg to turret mounting point issues, i think the solution came out ok though.

Right - i got on with finishing off the O/S front turret extension welding and gave it a clean up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts001.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts002.jpg

Then a lick O paint

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts003.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts004.jpg

While this was drying i started the 'looking' i didn't have the camera for most of it as the missus was using it so i only have the end result but i will expain.

Basically the cage to front turret legs come throught the bulk head at a strange angle i.e. they bend inwards towards the centre of the car unlike most that follow the edge of the wing on the other side of the turret.

This puzzeled me as the cage was built as a full bolt in item and there was no were obvious you could bolt to even with the bulk head in place due to the angle so i can only assume they had some brackets simialar to what i have devised....

Here i what i did (3mm plate btw)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts005.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts006.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts009.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts011.jpg

Looking forward towards the front of the car

There is a support between the top and the bottom as seen below

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts012.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts013.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts014.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts015.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts017.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

And with the cage leg in place (it will be held by a bolt through the centre)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts018.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts019.jpg

The bolt through here

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts020.jpg

Not the usual angle i was expecting....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts021.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts022.jpg

That was it for tonight :thumb:

[Benn]

Very nice, weldings damn good as allways.

What leave the cage removeable? Surely welding it in and tagging to to the pillars will give it that bit more stiffness..

Where does that bar come from? Dont they normaly come in lkike a triangel from the leg?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Benn there a 16 bolt in type tag points all over the cage so instead of cut all these off i thought i might as well make use of them besides it doesn't hurt being removable.

That bar comes in off the A pillar cage leg but at an angle (and yes that is the only way they fit and its not fitted wrong i have tried every conceivable position) lol

[Jonlem]

Looking good James.

ALL cages in motorsport at one point had to be bolted in, its nothing unusual to see a fully multipoint cage that bolts in, they usually run extra fixing points in the B pillars and roof area to help stiffen the shell up but still allow removal of the cage.

[Count Vaux Alot]

You are 100% correct JB on the tag in points - i did take loads of pics of them when i first got the cage.

Thats one on the left

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/cage014-1.jpg

And here on the roof bar and B pillar

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/cage007.jpg

[Jonlem]

Thats basically the same as the one in my Escort, does it have the twin diagonal in the back ?

As you know I just had mine welded in though and front triangulation added but as it was a Grp4 cage they did originally have to be bolt in, just like yours did

[Count Vaux Alot]

No its doesn't have any diagonals or at least it didn't until i added one - apparently this was fitted in a rally nova used in competition (it had original scrutineers stickers all over it) and did have FIA homologation papers it was made by Gartrac and i'm happy with it plus its a 'dash less' cage so fits nice and neat in my car.

[Jonlem]

Well if you've done your research on Gartrac then you'll be well aware of their knowledge.

Looks a proper cage and something slightly different to the usual 6 point stuff even if it has involved a bit more fitting time.

Going back to the overall build I see your selling your sccr for a sequential, knowing what these things cost and the small benefits you'll gain from having one (except crying when you break it) what sort of coilovers will you be running as there is a big difference from a set of low end Spax/Konis/Avo to the top spec Bilstein/Proflex for example

I genuinelly feel if your thinking of making something that stands out and really handles then it needs to be complimented with a proper set of coilovers so unless you can afford both I'd be keeping the sccr and spending the rest on the suspension as that would make it faster point to point than a sequential box would, IMO ofcourse.

[Count Vaux Alot]

I have researched Gartrac a little and i am aware of their knowledge - their escort stuff is lovely.

I completely agree with you suspension wise.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hello all and good evening etc...

After a lovely chip shop dinner i continued with the N/S on from last night (basically just drilled the hole for the nut and bolt and primed it - the bolt in place is for demonstrational purposes only....) as below

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts032.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts033.jpg

Then i started on the other side (camera in hand this time) i began with two 3mm pieces of plates that i shaped up like this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts023.jpg

then began welding them in around the cage leg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts024.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts025.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts026.jpg

And the other side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts027.jpg

And tacked in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts028.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts029.jpg

then it blasted home

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts031.jpg

On from this I made up the supports for the top and bottom of the mounting point and drilled the mounting hole as so

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts034.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts035.jpg

Then i took it all to pieces again and primed it up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts036.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts037.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

They are basically finished now (thank funk) as it feels like they have taken ages as i have been concentrating on one small area for a week or so but i'm quite happy with them

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts038.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts039.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts040.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/frontturretsandcagemounts041.jpg

I can now move on to the rest of the cage mounting points especially the rear turrets :D enjoy :thumb:

[Benn]

They look and should be awesome, i get what you means with the cage and tag points, will you just weld like a bolt to the pillar, then you then bolt the cage too?

Guessing you will be welding the seams around the turret too?

[The Simps]

Great work as always.

Are you not going to trim back the lip for the top mount adjustability?

[Count Vaux Alot]

They look and should be awesome, i get what you means with the cage and tag points, will you just weld like a bolt to the pillar, then you then bolt the cage too?

Guessing you will be welding the seams around the turret too?

The seams around the turrets? They have all already been stitched way back when i did the alternator mod etc

For the tag in points i will probably tap out some small 25mm x 25mm squares of 5mm plate to weld to the shell that i can then bolt the cage to. I will detail it when i get there lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Great work as always.

Are you not going to trim back the lip for the top mount adjustability?

I might do but i was hoping to find some top mounts without the stupid raised centre so there would be no need to - saying that though i have adjustable bottom arms/tie bars etc so i can adjust camber/castor that way ;)

[Benn]

Ah ok, thought you would of just dont looklike it around the back of the n/s turret and ah cool, much like what i thought you'd do.

Good up the good work.

[Count Vaux Alot]

It shouldn't look like it around any of the turret as ive seam sealed all the seams.

[Jonlem]

Protec sell the eccentric mounts your looking for, I had them on my nova and so did Ad, I've never quite understood why the others people are using are made that way knowing that they require the strut tops modifying

[The Simps]

by having the bearing on top you can then run lower surely...?

[Jonlem]

Just use shortened dampers like Rick does, my nova sat fine, handling was awesome and it didn't thave half the bits people use these days.

[Rick Draper]

If people pick up the phone TBH and rang Gaz direct they would find they offer a couple of different lengths of nova/corsa damper....

[Count Vaux Alot]

Yes Rick you are correct....

[craig green]

Great work on the turrets & cage fitting Count. Its the kind of details & fabrication I like to see in these project threads.

[srs1]

aint been on for a few days.

some great work going on there with the turrets.
like how you make a potential problem made easy with the trusty welder and laods of patience.

[Phil GTE]

Great project - worked my way back to page 35.....

Good to meet you the other night, hope the parts are a real help.

[Adam]

Top fabrication work! (thats about the 10th time ive said that in this thread lol )

[trackdaynova]

James - I love the fact that you're actually thinking about what you want from the car, and not just buying bits off the shelf and bolting bits on (like I did).

Everything you've done so far has been completely custom to sort your needs, and hopefully others have also recognised this, from the cage fitting, to the shell prep in general, the front turrets, rear turrets, rack position, everything has been well thought out.

Well done mate, keep at it - and the quality of photos in this thread has also improved lots since your saloon thread.

Keep it up pal.

Olly

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks Olly really appreciate your praise (I have been trying with the photo's lol)

All the alterations i've made have been don for a reason and as you say i have tried to think about them instead of just diving in and funking it up.....

[Count Vaux Alot]

Great project - worked my way back to page 35.....

Good to meet you the other night, hope the parts are a real help.

Thanks Phil it was good to meet you too :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Evening everyone! Not had the much time on the car since Wednesday night due to many a thing including parts collection, socialising, having more light fitted in the garage and having to complete a load of ****ty MOT related jobs on my daily (which wasn't what i really wanted to do) and work on sat morning :mad:

Anyway i finally got on with the Nova at about 3pm today and started to address the cage fitment inside the cars cabin concentrating on the rear turret mounting points.

Here is the offending daily pi$$ing thing lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts001.jpg

And here are the spreader plates for the 4 feet of the cage

There are x2 of these for the front feet

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts008.jpg

And x2 of these for the rears - i started off with some measurements 140mmx120mm that i turned into a cut up piece of metal

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts006.jpg

I then profiled it to the shape of the floor

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts007.jpg

Moving swiftly on i started 'looking' at the cage to rear turret mounting point issue as below

basically the cage meets the turret in a really awkward place with only a few mm of clearance

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts003.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts004.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts002.jpg

In the end i started like this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts009.jpg

then this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts010.jpg

that lead to this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts011.jpg

so it went from this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts012.jpg

to this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts014.jpg

[John]

Off topic, empty your pm box fella.

[Count Vaux Alot]

And one for the other side of the car - the N/S (so now i have to inners)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts016.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts017.jpg

I then made up some thing for the out side of the cage mount

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts020.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts024.jpg

And beefed the design it up a little before i welded it in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts025.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts026.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts028.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts029.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts030.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts031.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemounts032.jpg

This is all i had time for unfortunately - the other side is all ready to be welded in. There will be a hole through the mount for a bolt the same as the front turrets.

:thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Off topic, empty your pm box fella.

Have done matey :thumb:

[Adam]

Good work as expected from you!

[gunny]

Looks good matey, top way to get around the issue

[trackdaynova]

you never fail to amaze me James, most people would be bricking it that it didn't line up... all in your stride, as always! :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Good work as expected from you!

No pressure then lol lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

you never fail to amaze me James, most people would be bricking it that it didn't line up... all in your stride, as always! :thumb:

Thanks Olz i didn't really have any choice it needed to fit or i would have cried :cry:

[The Simps]

Good work dude!

fancy 5 studded daily astra hack eh?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Cheers Simps - the astra does its job :thumb:

I have chosen the new colour for the car btw :D

[John]

Beans, spill em!

[Benn]

Love the cage count.

[trackdaynova]

Beans, spill em!think the colour of a labia

[~~joycey~~]

think the colour of a labia


FPMSL! lol

+1

[The Simps]

you must spread rep round James like herpes!! I've been fairly liberal and I STILL can't give you any yet!! lol

[trackdaynova]

liberal my bumbum! you aint on my list :(... i bet i am yourn though :D

[Count Vaux Alot]

lol thanks peeps lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

I feel really good after tonights mince as you will see why in a minute...

Picked up were i left off last night finishing off the N/S rear cage to turret mount

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats001.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats005.jpg

Then some strengthening again

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats006.jpg

This ended up here

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats008.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats010.jpg

And all done - thats nearly the cage mounting finished WOOP WOOP!!!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats012.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats014.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats011.jpg

I then started to think about what i still had to do while the cage was in (as i need to take it out to mount the cage feel spreader plates) and i thought a ha the seats.

I need the cage in place to work out were i can mount the seats due to the clearance regarding the seats 'ears'

Here's how i got on

I started by doing away with the original seat mounts (yes more fecking spot welds!) but at least i'm loosing metal not adding it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats015.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats016.jpg

I will say these are the worst to remove out of everything that is spot welded down in a nova imo as the metal is thick and the spot welds are unobviously positioned meaning missage is rife resulting in certain holage doh! lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats018.jpg

And the rest removed taking about an hour

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats024.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats023.jpg

this is what was removed

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats027.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

And this is the end result with all the sh!t cleaned out - much better i did hit it with the air blower after i took this shot also.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats029.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats028.jpg

Now its all cleared out i can start positioning the seats

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats030.jpg

Yer baby

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats034.jpg

And some arty attempts just for you Olly (admittedly you do it best ;))

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats035.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats038.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats036.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats040.jpg

Proper mounting al la subframe fitment etc to follow enjoy for now :D :D

[gunny]

they look awesome lol, cage and seats are just wow

p.s. have you still got the bump strips??

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks Gunny and yup still got them :D

[gunny]

Got a price for me yet? :D

[Count Vaux Alot]

think the colour of a labia

lol thanks Olly

[Count Vaux Alot]

Beans, spill em!
John think

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/ist2_236897-army-tank.jpg

:cool:

[nova ian]

Nice one James, cars looking top notch.

Know what you mean 'bout them saet mounts,major pain in the a**e!! at least you didn't make a hash of it like I did lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks Ian yours is making good progress now good work!

[MK999]

Pimp seats :cool:

[scott.parker]

Seats look awesome, good idea with the cage to turret mounts they look tops, i take it your bolting the cage all into place then?

Scott

[Geordie-Chris]

Awsome work as ever mate, good choice in seats too, same as mine lol you'll be pleased to hear there really comfortable as well as supportive too, and look the bollocks!!!

[NOVANICK]

just discovered this thread. Plenty of inspiring fabrications! i'm inspired to finish the welding on mine now, cheers!

[Adam]

Seats look cool.
Very nice

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks everyone the seats are Ollys -(Track day novas) old ones and i fell in love the first time ever sat in them they are the t!ts and i love them!

Does anyone know if you can get replacement covers for them?

Scott the cage will be comming out once i've mounted the seats then i will be bolting the cage into place once i've painted every thing etc.

[corsakid]

gotta love the seats, is the car staying silver or going a different colour

[Count Vaux Alot]

Right thought i'd update this as i haven't for ages :roll: :p

I cracked straight on with fitting the seat rails for the subframes - i started by cutting up these 50x65mm rectangles (3mm plate btw) for the ends of the seat rails

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats041.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats042.jpg

I then marked out the rough area and cleaned it up with a sanding disc. Once i was happy with the positioning i tacked them in and made some more measurements and adjustments

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats044.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats045.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats046.jpg

Thats good enough for me

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats047.jpg

So i welded it in for good

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats048.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats049.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats050.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats051.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats052.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats053.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats054.jpg

[John]

John think

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/ist2_236897-army-tank.jpg

:cool:

Cool!