The Counts Track Day Nova Build

[Count Vaux Alot]

And on to the rear rail :)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats056.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats058.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats059.jpg

Tacked it in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats061.jpg

Adjusted a little and welded some more (then the camera battery began to die and with it went its ability to flash...)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats062.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats063.jpg

I'm happy with the results - as you can see its all level every way

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats064.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats065.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats067.jpg

Now all i need to do is drill the holes for the subframe and its on to the other side :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

John think

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/ist2_236897-army-tank.jpg

:cool:
John i was waiting for some one to pick up on this - corsakid i hope this answers your question....a little different i know but, i have my reasons :D ;)

[The Simps]

....a little different i know but, i have my reasons :D ;)


Its gonna be sooooooooooo slow you hope people won't see you :p


Good work as always fella! Gonna do mine the same way with box section. Don't see the point of buying the kits with tubes and brackets!!

[corsakid]

ah yeah question answered lol i mounted my seat the same with the reinforced plates and the box section, very tidy job indeed mate as always!

[Count Vaux Alot]

Its gonna be sooooooooooo slow you hope people won't see you :p


Good work as always fella! Gonna do mine the same way with box section. Don't see the point of buying the kits with tubes and brackets!!

No Simps....its going to be so outstanding i will have to hide it so people don't die with amazement lol

I havent even seen these kits with tubes and brackets you talk of :confused:

[Adam]

Adam likes

[The Simps]

No Simps....its going to be so outstanding i will have to hide it so people don't die with amazement lol


lol :thumb:




I havent even seen these kits with tubes and brackets you talk of :confused:

http://www.hh-ms.com/database/

I think its what Rick has used on his Corsa build. Demon Tweeks sell a cheaper version.

[Count Vaux Alot]

How funking much £££ :eek: :eek:

[The Simps]

exactly!!!!!

thats my whole budget! lol

[scott.parker]

Thanks everyone the seats are Ollys -(Track day novas) old ones and i fell in love the first time ever sat in them they are the t!ts and i love them!

Does anyone know if you can get replacement covers for them?

Scott the cage will be comming out once i've mounted the seats then i will be bolting the cage into place once i've painted every thing etc.

Ah i see, but i was also asking if the end fitment will be bolt in or weld in?

As for covers try http://www.corbeau-seats.co.uk/accessories.htm

And good work on the rails, lol i was thinking i hope he dont get the 110v lead plug stuck under them, but im sure there not that low to the floor. :thumb:

Scott

[Count Vaux Alot]

They will be bolt in - as you will see in a bit lol

Big thanks for the link - its exactly what i wanted :thumb:

[scott.parker]

No worrie's oh and the seat's use to belong to Chris T before Olly lol his car has parts all over the club!

[fearless]

Looking good so far :thumb:


A few words of wisdom on the seat rails :

You may find the spacing on the rails doesn't match the holes on the bottom of the seat mounts (You've probably checked this already - but not took pictures lol )

If your drilling straight through the box section - the correct method is to insert/weld a tube into the box section so it doesn't collapse/crush when tightening down the seat mount - personally I can't see your box section collapsing when bolting down the seats - but thats what the experts say !!!

The easy fix for this (The above 2 problems on my project resulted in the following -) is to weld brackets to the box section and drill to suit the spacing on your seat mounts :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/fearlessmotorsport/seatrails.jpg



Dave

[scott.parker]

Or there is the way mine were done, use some L shaped section steel.

You can gain access to the nut/bolt from front/back side of each section and there's no chance they will fold as it's an L shape ;)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1218/dscf0237smallv.jpg

Scott

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks people advice taken on board...but i can see the box collapsing either lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hi everyone not really an update as i haven't done much mainly due to this taking over my evening

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116201 :D

I did however get the drivers seat mounted, I started by fitting the seat to the sub frames then resting it on the new rails and positioning it in a comfortable position.
I found the most comfortable position for the seat was the front slightly turned in towards the centre of the car and the seat close to the exhaust tunnel.
Once it was positioned i clamped the subframes down and removed the seat allowing me to mark out the holes as so

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats068.jpg

Then i drilled the holes and fitted it all back into place - it fits yay!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats069.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats071.jpg

:)

PS the box didn't collapse lol

[Benn]

Looking good dude, love the lit up pics a few pages back too.
Good work.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Looking good dude, love the lit up pics a few pages back too.
Good work.

Ta Benn i can't wait to get it painted now :D

[Benn]

When do you say the colour? When its painted?

[Count Vaux Alot]

John think

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/ist2_236897-army-tank.jpg

:cool:

I thought this might have given it away lol lol

[John]

Nato green?

[dhdev (Oli)]

I thought this might have given it away lol lol

Dandelion yellow :cool:

[AlexW]

Moss green lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Nato green?

Oh yes lol

Oli trust you to notice the flowers :gay:....

[Benn]

Camo.

[andrew1988]

Loving this project. Real inspiration

Have some rep you little sea dog :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks Andrew i think i haven't ever been called a little sea dog before lol

[andrew1988]

haha, first time for everything!

Keep up the good work though, its genuinly made me excited about starting my track car again.

Oh, and congrats on the saloon feature

[Count Vaux Alot]

Got on with the other seat rails tonight

Started with this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats072.jpg

Tacked it all in as before allowing for slight adjustments to make sure everything was level

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats073.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats074.jpg

And the front rail

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats076.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats075.jpg

Then welded it in and drilled the holes for the subframes

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats081.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats082.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats083.jpg


The passenger seat is further back and lower down allowing fro better weight placement in the car and it also gives the driver a better view to the N/S :thumb:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats077.jpg

And here is the seat in place - quite close to the cage

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats078.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats079.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats080.jpg

Ive also repaired all the holes in the floor where the spot weld removal didn't go as planned lol

[Benn]

Is the pass seat so far back to keep the weight in the middle?
Where the battrey going? Lot of peeps have them behind the pass seat for the same weight in the middle reasoning.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Yes mate the seat is positioned for weight distribution reasons - the battery will be going in the N/S/R corner of the car to counter balance the drivers weight in the front :thumb:

[corsakid]

the reason why i put mine in the n/s/r corner to try and counter drivers weight top project whne you think itll all be finished? your making pretty fast progress

[BRoadGhost]

If you are going to all this trouble why didn't you make the driver's seat as far back as the passengers?

[dhdev (Oli)]

James are you going soft, I thought you were a hardcore weight saving freak like myself :( Battery in the back means an exessively long cable run, the seat mounts need chopping down also, I do like the removal of the cross brace on the floor, I know it's not revolutionary nowadays, but when I built mine it wasn't the done thing to remove them, out with the spot weld drill for me :)

[t45_ste]

If you are going to all this trouble why didn't you make the driver's seat as far back as the passengers?

Agreed

Floor mounted pedal box, hydraulic clutch and extend the column.

[dhdev (Oli)]

Agreed

Floor mounted pedal box, hydraulic clutch and extend the column.

Lee303 sylee :thumb:

[BRoadGhost]

You don't even have to go floor mounted pedals if you are 6FT+

[Count Vaux Alot]

the reason why i put mine in the n/s/r corner to try and counter drivers weight top project whne you think itll all be finished? your making pretty fast progress

A very good question - the answer being i'm not sure when it will be finished asap lol


If you are going to all this trouble why didn't you make the driver's seat as far back as the passengers?

As i've said before the vision to the N/S with the seats side by side is poor but it is a good idea that i have considered and if i'm not happy once both the seats are inplace i will look into moving the drivers back.


James are you going soft, I thought you were a hardcore weight saving freak like myself :( Battery in the back means an exessively long cable run, the seat mounts need chopping down also, I do like the removal of the cross brace on the floor, I know it's not revolutionary nowadays, but when I built mine it wasn't the done thing to remove them, out with the spot weld drill for me :)

Oli you are right and i hadn't thought about cable weight until now (james goes off to the corner to repent for his sins) were else could i mount it? In front of the passengers feet on the floor perhaps?

As said above the seat mount idea may change if i can find a reasonable priced pedal box...and i will destroy the rest of the seat mounts in due course lol
You need that floor cross brace removed.


Agreed

Floor mounted pedal box, hydraulic clutch and extend the column.

I have seen the error in my ways and also agree....Lee 303 styleee as i'm only 6ft :D

[jakeyboy]

i got some gte bumpers in silver front and back for sale let me know if your intererested

[Count Vaux Alot]

i got some gte bumpers in silver front and back for sale let me know if your intererested

Keh? :confused:

[jakeyboy]

sorry mate wrong post comps keeps pulling up new windows

[dhdev (Oli)]

Is it a nice small redtop type battery? Either in front of or under the passengers legs/feet, their comfort shouldn't be a priority PMSL. or is there space between the seats? Or seeing as you like fabricating stuff, how about in the quarter behind the passenger seat, make some little box :confused:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Is it a nice small redtop type battery? Either in front of or under the passengers legs/feet, their comfort shouldn't be a priority PMSL. or is there space between the seats? Or seeing as you like fabricating stuff, how about in the quarter behind the passenger seat, make some little box :confused:

It will be a nice small red top battery but i haven't purchased it yet...i think in front of the passengers feet/foot rest is the best place but your box in the quarter idea sounds good if there is enough room - i will look.


Or seeing as you like fabricating stuff, make some little box :confused:

This made me laugh lol lol

Do you think that moving the drivers seat back level with the passengers seat offers enough gains to consider doing it(it can come back another 125mm)? As it involves - handbrake relocation, floor mounted pedals, extended rack, sorting the gear shifter position, hydraulic clutch slave etc etc :confused:

[The Simps]

Do you think that moving the drivers seat back level with the passengers seat offers enough gains to consider doing it(it can come back another 125mm)? As it involves - handbrake relocation, floor mounted pedals, extended rack, sorting the gear shifter position, hydraulic clutch slave etc etc :confused:


Yes. It looks cool more than anything!

[Count Vaux Alot]

Yes there is that lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

I feel my grinder itching again.....i really should use some more of that special cream the doctor gave me lol

[dhdev (Oli)]

Check this for dedication 3.48am!!! I think that the gains provided by moving the seat back wouldn't be measurable in terms of lap time... however it may give you kudos in the pits... your call tbh, is it worth the outlay for the R.E.S.P.E.C.T lol

[MK999]

3.54! and every little helps? lol

[dhdev (Oli)]

Alright you win...no wait I'm here again!

**** this I'm off to bed, see ya'll tomorrow with ma hangoverrrrr

[Ernie]

morning what did i miss lol

[The Simps]

morning what did i miss lol


Oli in late night advice shocker!

lol

[Jay]

When will this be finished James? As i'd love to see it and sit in them awesome seats which i want :)

[Ernie]

"Calm down dear its just a bucket seat" lol

[Jay]

Not just any old buckets...

[Ernie]

"This is a mark an sparks bucket"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/abod%20gte/easter-printed-plastic-bucket-3.jpg

[MK999]

Alright you win...no wait I'm here again!

**** this I'm off to bed, see ya'll tomorrow with ma hangoverrrrr

Damn, knew I shouldn't have gone to sleep just after! lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Check this for dedication 3.48am!!! I think that the gains provided by moving the seat back wouldn't be measurable in terms of lap time... however it may give you kudos in the pits... your call tbh, is it worth the outlay for the R.E.S.P.E.C.T lol

Respect for the post time lol - out lay in ££ isn't that much more than sticking with my corsa pedal box idea as they are £150 ish and the floor mounted stuff being about 3-400 for the good stuff but compbrake do do one for £200 not sure if its any good though?

Then the rest is just my time - the drivers seat will sit in the roughly same position as the passengers when its all the way back on the subframe mounting points if that makes any sense?
I will see how it looks with both seats in and actually how far back from the pedals the drivers seat is so i can decide what to do.....

[Count Vaux Alot]

When will this be finished James? As i'd love to see it and sit in them awesome seats which i want :)

:confused: :confused: lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

I haven't had any time on the car since Thursday evening until today so here is what i've been up to...

To start i collected these yesterday what a bargain!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats085.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats087.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats086.jpg

And they are a wicked size for what i want (to fit the wide arches)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats084.jpg

I then looked in to this seat all the way back idea - and can confirm it won't be happening atm as i can't see any real gain over the current seat position.
Moving the seat requires quite a lot more work (handbrake, and steering column etc) but it will only go back about another 2inches before it fouls he cage so isn't worth the effort imo.

Here is the seat as far back as it will go before it fouls the cage - see the top left corner

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats088.jpg

all the way back on its subframes not that much room behind the seat

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats089.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats091.jpg

the seats are nearly level at this point

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats090.jpg

But here is the catch - i can still reach the pedals so they wouldn't need moving but i can't reach the hand brake or shifter comfortably

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats092.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats093.jpg

So i can't see the point in all that faf for 2 inches esp as there is no major gain other that its cool....

The seat sits like this in its current position

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats094.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats095.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats096.jpg

This gives a comfortable seating position, with good sight to the off and near side (which is important to me as it will be road legal and i like to see lol) and means i don't have to alter anything!

If all that made no sense at all i'm glad as it means im not the only one who didn't understand lol.
So to summarise i don't think there is any reason to change what i already have as there is little to any gain to be had for the effort involved.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Once i had finished funking around i got on with something more productive - one for my man Oli

I got rid of the entire old seat mounting

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats097.jpg

leaving this mmmmm weight loss :roll:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats102.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats103.jpg

I then moved on to the cage....again. (Its almost done now thank funk)
I took the cage out of the car to weld the spreader plates in as so

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats098.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats099.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats100.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats101.jpg

I then slipped the cage back in (yer its like that easy) to drill all the holes for the mounts and tag in points.

Swarf in your hand anyone???

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats104.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats105.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats106.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats107.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

i'm really please with how these have turned out

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats108.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats109.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats110.jpg

And the tag in points

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats111.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats112.jpg

Now the cage is completely sorted fitment wise i whipped it out again (the cage that is lol) so i can paint it.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats113.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats114.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats115.jpg

And finally while i was clearing away i took so more of my new MO's what a bargain

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats116.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats117.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats118.jpg

That was it for today - should be getting on with the rear arches shortly, along with some more strengthening and perhaps some paint :thumb: :thumb:

[Jay]

Nice wheels :D

[Adam]

Good work, liking the cage fitment pics, just what i needed.

Strange how your Mo's are identical to mine, but mine are only 6j width.

[Rick Draper]

Strange how your Mo's are identical to mine, but mine are only 6j width.

Comp do countless different offset and width combinations.

[Adam]

That'll explain it then. :)
Its just usually in vauxhall fit, 15s, are 6j.

[Rick Draper]

That'll explain it then. :)
Its just usually in vauxhall fit, 15s, are 6j.

Mine are exactly the same as them but they are 16's lol lol lol lol

[gunny]

COMPS FTW lol

Cage mounts look sweet mate, and judging by what your saying its a hell of a lot of effort moving the seats and modifying everything to suit for just 2 inches, i agree it hardly seems worth it. Respect on the wheels, big fan of comps, had to resist so hard to not put them on my current nova lol keep it up :thumb:

[Ernie]

you pic/weld whore you lol

Loves it mate

[dhdev (Oli)]

Loving the weight saving on the seat mounts, I think I still have some of mine left. i'm not great with the spot weld drill and it started to look like someone had removed mine with an axe, so i gave up :(
The cage spreaders/mounts look :cool:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks for your views on the wheels - its good to have some decent visual content imo as threads are soooo boring otherwise and the pics help others attempting such tasks such as Adam - glad to be of help!.

Oli and for anyone else who cares the metal I removed from the original seat mounts weighed in at 2.2kgs :eek:

Anyway no major events to update on tonight as i have had a well over due clean up resulting in this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats126.jpg

there is quite a lot of sh!te there considering i try and clean up as much as possible after i've finished work on the car for the night as i hate starting back at it the next day with cr@p everywere. Most of this came from various corners around the shell and all those filings from drilling.

Then once every thing was clean i flipped the shell over again

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats124.jpg

Giving better acces for prep and painting inside the shell (as i can stand inside the shell through the door and rear window hole) , sorting how much i need to cut the rear arches up for the wideness, measuring up for the rear diffuser, plating the front panel and working out how much wider my bottom arms need to be with my new spacers (not the conventional ones i may add....details to follow lol) as well as tidying up under the front arches were i extended them etc etc ect.

[Benn]

Nice big garage!

Look at you getting arty with the wheel pics.

[Adam]

Its Olly's fault, ive noticed on loads of WIP threads people are posting arty shots of various things lol lol

[The Simps]

isn't the plastic bit in ur sweep up pile off the brake servo?

[trossnova]

just been threw every page mate well impressed with the amount of work and skill that has gone into this car :)
best of luck to u

[John]

Top stuff James!

[Count Vaux Alot]

Nice big garage!

Look at you getting arty with the wheel pics.

The garage is great and yer sorry i was getting a bit :gay:over the pics of the wheels...Adam your right it is Ollys fault lol



isn't the plastic bit in ur sweep up pile off the brake servo?

Yer probably...its in the bin now - i don't need it



just been threw every page mate well impressed with the amount of work and skill that has gone into this car :)
best of luck to u


Top stuff James!

Thanks Chaps ;)

[nuno_gt]

For some reason, i can't see the pics.

But, good project as far as i read it.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Yer i'm having bandwidth issues with photo bucket so you wont be able to see the pics until i pay for a pro account... lol

[nuno_gt]

lol

Why don't you try imageshack on: http://imageshack.us

It's free to use and not complicated. Try it, m8.

[Benn]

Yer i'm having bandwidth issues with photo bucket so you wont be able to see the pics until i pay for a pro account... lol

Really? Try donating a few quid, i did and have never had a prob since.

And i uploaded 55 pics and 4 vids last weekend..

[021-bennettt]

Just saw your car on the cover of old school car magazine or some name like tht and it looks mint and you even get a poster of it with the mag:D
Excellent work

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hi people sorry for the picture issue....all sorted now :)

[Jay]

Hi people sorry for the picture issue....all sorted now :)

any updates then ? :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hi everyone not had an update for a bit as i haven't had much time on the car this week but i have done a bit so here goes...


I stone chipped under the front turrets and in the inner wings

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats130.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats131.jpg

Then i made a start on the paint prep on the inside of the car (warning this does include some extreme weight saving measures please have a tissue to hand at all times lol)

Just a general clean at first

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats132.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats133.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats134.jpg

Then i made up some strengthening plates for the front panel (these are the only chassis strengthening plates i am fitting)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats136.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats141.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats142.jpg

And they go here

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats143.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats144.jpg

At this point i decided i would go back to the interior and remove the final remains of that tar like cr@p

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats145.jpg

A wire wheel on a drill proved to be the best method

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats146.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats147.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

After finishing that off i though i would have a go at some more weight saving measures...it started like this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats153.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats154.jpg

That then progressed to this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats155.jpg

And then this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats157.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats158.jpg

And the other side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats149.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats150.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats152.jpg

The remains

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats151.jpg

:thumb: :thumb:

[gunny]

How much you saved there count?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Good point....not loads but every little helps and there is more to come lol

[MK999]

That's pretty cool, love the triangulation theory lol Also picked up retro cars on friday, love your not-so-furry dice :thumb:

[gunny]

lol i was genuinely asking, i want to do a bit of weight saving on mine in places that can be hidden and are not sacraficing too many comforts, as you say, every little helps lol

[Graeme]

Constantly enjoying the updates James, keep them coming, the saloon looks excellent in RC, I must of red it five times already

[vaughanmc]

Really good attention to detail mate, also picked up Retro Cars last night - The old saloon looks awsome man!!!

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks for all your comments on both the cars - thought i'd try something a little different from the usual hole saw affair and the triangles have come out well.
I'm going to be utilising the hole saw shortly though lol

[Ernie]

There will be no car left soon lol.

[Benn]

Love the pillar weight loss.

[Count Vaux Alot]

There will be no car left soon lol.

In the week i'm going to see were else i can remove material from - all of the usual places will be getting abused as well as some other areas....;)

[The Simps]

you weight loss whore you!!

[Count Vaux Alot]

Simps i haven't even started yet.....

[Count Vaux Alot]

Right like i said yesterday tissues to hand people i have had another weight loss session lol

It started like this -nothing out of the ordinary

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats160.jpg

I decided to try and remove as much as possible

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats161.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats162.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats163.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats164.jpg

Then i went in search of some more unneeded material

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats165.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats166.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats167.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats168.jpg

Last time i counted i had over 40 holes :eek: and i haven't finished yet!!!

I wasn't 100% satisfied that there was enough material being removed with just the holes so i went for the old trick of joining some up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats169.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats170.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats171.jpg

And the remains so far

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats173.jpg

WOOT WOOT! i'm going to attack the shell again tomorrow the rear panel is getting some more abuse.....

[Ernie]

holly moly

[Count Vaux Alot]

Correct swiss funking cheese!!!

[Plug]

all i can say is what the funk lol

Are you getting fibre glass doors????

[Count Vaux Alot]

No i'm not getting F/G doors at the moment they are to expensive and mine are pretty light now anyway....why is 'what the funk' all you can say?

[Plug]

cause as ernie said the other day you will have no car left at this rate

[Count Vaux Alot]

Probably.....lol

[Benn]

Dont go to mad as you'll lost alot of strenth, wouldnt it be easier to hollow out the inner bits of the quaters in sted of cutting the holes in them?
That will weight more..

Love the holes tho you crazy holemofo.

[Count Vaux Alot]

In its current state i don't believe i have lost 'alot of strength' the hollowing out would cause more strength loss imo.....

[AlexW]

Is that what you call "Mint"?

[Count Vaux Alot]

:confused: as in the polo?

[AlexW]

lol yes

[Count Vaux Alot]

lol

[Benn]

In its current state i don't believe i have lost 'alot of strength' the hollowing out would cause more strength loss imo.....

I ment the rear pannel, but thinking of where the holes are shouldnt be a prob.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Agreed Benn

[kenny_afh]

loving the cuts on the pillars, thats something ive not done on mine but could b a possibility. im building mine as a rally car so id like to keep the strength there as i know i'll roof it eventually, but if i ever have to replace the roof the seatbelt mounts will be binned!

heres some links to images of some of my weight loss ideas, most of them for very little gains but oh well, havnt had time to read thru your whole thread so dont be too annoyed if its things you have already tried or arent applicable.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/kenny_afh/08october08005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/kenny_afh/stuffffffff013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/kenny_afh/stuffffffff011.jpg

also things like using a heated screen to remove the heater/fan/control and piping, cutting the inner webbing off the bumpers and removing all irons, hollowing out the GSi spoiler, stripping all unused wires from the loom etc etc etc it all counts at the end of the day.

cant wait till i get a spare evening to have a look thru and see what else i can spot that might be of use, from what ive seen there seems to be a bit more method being used than on many lightweight cars!

[Plug]

to Kenny

I think cutting the complete inner rear 1/4's would lose a bit of strength wouldnt it?

i dont know just my thought

[trackdaynova]

surely these strength comments are all on the provado that Novas are actually structually strong anyway lol :wtf:

[The Simps]

Its all a waste of time anyway as he'll proabably stuff it on the first corner OllyTB style at Donny - remember that one Olz! lol There's a vid somewhere.

[trackdaynova]

do i ever lol that was hilarious... ahhh well... that was another Oliver that couldn't keep up with me lol lol lol

[The Simps]

ahhh well... that was another Oliver that couldn't keep up with me lol lol lol



oooooohhhhh the banter!! lol lol

[trackdaynova]

lol lol lol great innit

[kenny_afh]

to Kenny

I think cutting the complete inner rear 1/4's would lose a bit of strength wouldnt it?

i dont know just my thought

what strength does that area actually have?

in my opinion none,unless you really dont want minute amounts of flex in your rear windows.

if you rolled the car that area would be negated by the pillars around it (which in turn would be negated by the rollcage)

in a side impact that material was also fairly useless, but as there are never going to be rear passengers, and nova shells are ten a penny anyway im happy enough to ignore that.


one thing ive never seen the sense in removing is the floor mounted crossmember under the front seats, as that would im my opinion be a handy thing to have around when you skelp something side on!

[Count Vaux Alot]

loving the cuts on the pillars, thats something ive not done on mine but could b a possibility. im building mine as a rally car so id like to keep the strength there as i know i'll roof it eventually, but if i ever have to replace the roof the seatbelt mounts will be binned!

heres some links to images of some of my weight loss ideas, most of them for very little gains but oh well, havnt had time to read thru your whole thread so dont be too annoyed if its things you have already tried or arent applicable.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/kenny_afh/08october08005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/kenny_afh/stuffffffff013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/kenny_afh/stuffffffff011.jpg

also things like using a heated screen to remove the heater/fan/control and piping, cutting the inner webbing off the bumpers and removing all irons, hollowing out the GSi spoiler, stripping all unused wires from the loom etc etc etc it all counts at the end of the day.

cant wait till i get a spare evening to have a look thru and see what else i can spot that might be of use, from what ive seen there seems to be a bit more method being used than on many lightweight cars!

Hi mate when you do get the time to read through the rest of my wip (admittedly it may take a while lol) you will see i have already considered 90% or more of what you have said and rightly agree.

[MK999]

Getting me to drive it will be a great way to shed weight too, I only come in size "skinny bugger" lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

surely these strength comments are all on the provado that Novas are actually structually strong anyway

A point well made imo lol


Its all a waste of time anyway as he'll proabably stuff it on the first corner OllyTB style at Donny - remember that one Olz! There's a vid somewhere.
If i do stuff it on the first corner i will be happy in the knowledge that it will be one more corner than your car will ever make at this rate Mr Simps.... lol :p


do i ever lol that was hilarious... ahhh well... that was another Oliver that couldn't keep up with me lol lol lol
Unfortunately i probably wont be able to see if i could keep up with you as you are a big homo and broke your car.


oooooohhhhh the banter!! lol lol
Banter banter....


lol lol great innit

And yes it is lol lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

what strength does that area actually have?

in my opinion none,unless you really dont want minute amounts of flex in your rear windows.

if you rolled the car that area would be negated by the pillars around it (which in turn would be negated by the rollcage)

in a side impact that material was also fairly useless, but as there are never going to be rear passengers, and nova shells are ten a penny anyway im happy enough to ignore that.


one thing ive never seen the sense in removing is the floor mounted crossmember under the front seats, as that would im my opinion be a handy thing to have around when you skelp something side on!

I would also agree with most of the above apart from the cross member part as i dont plan on skelping anything out on track although i take it you are coming from a rallying POV (after having removed it i cant see it would offer much if any support)

[Jay]

This just gets better and better! :thumb:

[trackdaynova]

Unfortunately i probably wont be able to see if i could keep up with you as you are a big homo and broke your car.

http://www.alaska-in-pictures.com/data/media/17/winter-alyeska-pipeline_3235.jpg


;)

[Count Vaux Alot]

Your building a giant water slide like the one on that Barclay's advert??? lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Here's Olly lol lol


http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/commercials/2008/10/barclaycard-water-slide.jpg

[Plug]

something in the pipe line me thinks

[MK999]

something in the pipe line me thinks

lots of oil?! lol

[Benn]

lots of oil?! lol

lol lol

[muzzy]

Just spent last night and tonight reading through from the start!

This is very impressive, love the fabrication you are doing and really thinking things through and also having the balls to chop off things nobody would consider attacking with a grinder.

Will be a bit of a weapon once your done :thumb:

[Count Vaux Alot]

something in the pipe line me thinks

Oh is that what he mean....silly me for thinking he was building a water slide lol lol lol

[John]

Have posted you that tas catalouge fella, the kit is on page 33, there's not a lot to see tbh, but you can get the idea of what the kit comprised of, and how it worked.

[burgo]

have you weighed all those disks count?

[Adam]

About a kilo? lol

[The Simps]

no progress tonight? you're slacking....

[Count Vaux Alot]

Evening all!

I have been getting on with the strict weight loss regime this evening as well as some actual paint prep - here is what i've been up too

Got red of these as they were deemed as unneeded - the rear seat belt anchoring points - i tidied up the holes after i had taken these pics.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats174.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats175.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats176.jpg

And another hole here just because lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats177.jpg

Oh and a few more here

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats178.jpg

I think i'm nearly done with the 'hole' situation so i moved on to prep - basically concentrating on the inside of the car alone (this is much easier with the car on its side) i have keyed up the interior and began the masking up in preperation for some application of primer then paint :thumb:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats180.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats181.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats182.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats184.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats188.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats186.jpg

It all still needs a little more prep then a blow out (don't we all lol), and a degrease before i consider any painting.

[Count Vaux Alot]

no progress tonight? you're slacking....

Pardon??

[Count Vaux Alot]

Have posted you that tas catalouge fella, the kit is on page 33, there's not a lot to see tbh, but you can get the idea of what the kit comprised of, and how it worked.
Cheers John much appreciated!


have you weighed all those disks count?
Not yet Burgo i was waiting until i had finished so i will give them a weighing tomorrow and let you all know


About a kilo? lol
If i'm lucky lol

[Adam]

About the same as driving with just with one shoe on, Voila :p

[Benn]

Looking good dude, have you primerd it? Or left it masked ready?

[Count Vaux Alot]

About the same as driving with just with one shoe on, Voila :p

Who said i would be wearing any shoes? lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Looking good dude, have you primerd it? Or left it masked ready?
Just left it as the pics show Benn - still got a few more bits to sort before i lay any paint on it and it was getting late/it was dinner time and i was HUNGRY lol
I prob should spend more time on the prep but i CBA....

[Benn]

Do it now so you dont have to again. It will only piss you off it theres bit that look sh&t.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Do it now so you dont have to again. It will only piss you off it theres bit that look sh&t.

I know mate i know thats why i left if for tomorrow, so i can got back and give it the love it needs lol i may not even get any paint on it until the weekend but i really want it primed before then. I have some nice green primer :thumb:

[Benn]

Good good and cool. And green primer? Different.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Oh yes the primer is different it goes with the paint (its the proper nato stuff)

[burgo]

i cant beleave you havnt removed the dash panel

[calibra-keith]

im liking the idea of the holes not seen that before, can i ask what you doing with doors for waight ? im asking because im thinking of way to basicly have it just skin cross braces to stop it flapping about or close as possible unless some one has better idea ?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Little update for tonight - I got on with the prep making sure i was happy with all areas etc then i gave everything a good clean/sweep/blow out and hoover as cleanliness is key to a decent paint finish :thumb:i also got a couple of heaters in the garage to up the temp a little ;)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats190.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats191.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats193.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats192.jpg

This was followed by some more masking and a degrease all over with panel wipe and another blow out

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats194.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats195.jpg

Now the part you have all been waiting for....the first application of some paint (all be it the green primer i was on about lol)
The colour of the primer is hard to see but it has come out a light matt green which is a good base for the darker finish coat that i will be applying shortly.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats196.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats197.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats198.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats199.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats200.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats201.jpg

IMO the primer has come out very well and i'm happy with the finish - even coverage and minimal runs, hangs etc.

[Jay]

I love your update's any actual pics of the paint your using?

[Count Vaux Alot]

I love your update's any actual pics of the paint your using?

Do you love them for any reason in particular? lol i haven't any pics of the paint atm but i will take some tomorrow :thumb:

[Jay]

Do you love them for any reason in particular? lol i haven't any pics of the paint atm but i will take some tomorrow :thumb:

Nope no reason just good to see someone flat out on there Car. Wish i had the time/motivation/knowledge/money/space to do this lol

[Plug]

Nope no reason just good to see someone flat out on there Car. Wish i had the time/motivation/knowledge/money/space to do this lol

im with you on this jay,

when you doing my rear turrets then?

[scott.parker]

James did i miss this, or i might be wrong, but have you cut and covered over the hole where the plastic round cover goes to the fuel tank on the rear bench? or did the old shell not have them as they were not injection etc?

Looking nice there primer mate, moving on well fast now!

Hope the top coat goes as well.

Scott

[Ernie]

the old shells dont have a hole there scott lol

[scott.parker]

Hey i coverd my back by saying that too! lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

the old shells dont have a hole there scott lol

:thumb:

[Benn]

Looks awesome dude! You'll hate flatting thall off..lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Hi everyone no update to night as it was my granddads birthday so had a family thing to attend....i did however weight what i could find of the metal discs i removed (i have more holes than discs and i can't remember whether i have thrown the others away DOH!) and they weighed in at 1.5kgs not bad IMO :thumb:

[Ernie]

Dont worry Benn.
Olly said James is very good with his hands.
Well i think he was talking about rubbing this lot off lol.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Looks awesome dude! You'll hate flatting thall off..lol

Don't even start Benn lol the primer has gone on well considering i didn't know how it would turn out given i haven't ever painted with it but i bet i end up funking the top coat :mad: lol

[Benn]

If you funk it up then you run it down. Take ya time, the best finsh comes from the best prep.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Olly said James is very good with his hands.


He touched me first and we didn't even know each other then :roll: lol

[Ernie]

lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

If you funk it up then you run it down. Take ya time, the best finsh comes from the best prep.

Well said my man! To fewer people realise that the finish is all in the prep....would you wax a dirty car??

[Benn]

Everything in the prep.

Building a track car, a good paint job, girls..

And no i wouldnt..lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Everything in the prep.

Building a track car, a good paint job, girls..

And no i wouldnt..lol

:thumb: :thumb:

[Adam]

Good work on the primering :)

[John]

Cool! Can't wait to see the top coat! You find out any more about front legs?

[Count Vaux Alot]

No mate i've been looking...like i said i have a possible solution - details to follow at some point ;)

[Count Vaux Alot]

Quick question for everyone ....Any suggestions as to were i should put my washer bottle? My battery is going in front of the passengers feet btw.

[Adam]

Inside the wing(so you cant see it)

[Count Vaux Alot]

Inside the wing(so you cant see it)

Or fill it up...

[kenny_afh]

get a hanging bag with pump for the water, and hang it inside the rear quarter (if no rear cards)

[dhdev (Oli)]

Quick question for everyone ....Any suggestions as to were i should put my washer bottle? My battery is going in front of the passengers feet btw.

In the bin. Seriously.

[Count Vaux Alot]

In the bin. Seriously.

The Count pauses in contemplation to consider a valid suggestion then reminds himself that clean windscreens are more useful than dirty ones and the saga continues lol

[t45_ste]

Iv bought one of these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-12v-WINDSCREEN-WASHER-BAG-KIT_W0QQitemZ260384288868QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item260384288868&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

:thumb:

[burgo]

i to have one of them ^^^ a very nice little kit which you can put litterally anywhere

[Count Vaux Alot]

I'm not feeling it...it looks like a colostomy bag and it costs £16 for no real gain - i was wondering were the best place to place mine was thats all.

[t45_ste]

colostomy bag lol love it

Its lighter than a nova tank :)

[scott.parker]

You could mount the standard washer bottle in the rear inner wing by the B pillar, but then you have to trail the pipes all through the car, could you not just mount it right at the back right corner under the scuttle??

Scott

[burgo]

I'm not feeling it...it looks like a colostomy bag and it costs £16 for no real gain - i was wondering were the best place to place mine was thats all.on dry days tho you can take it out to save more weight. mind you i spose you can do that with a normal one.......DOH

[scott.parker]

on dry days tho you can take it out to save more weight

Birds don't stop ****ting if there is no rain, in fact birds don't like to fly in the rain! lol

[burgo]

fook using your washers to clean bird ****e off. you ever run out of fluid whilst trying to remove it and end up with massive white smears across your screen?

[scott.parker]

fook using your washers to clean bird ****e off. you ever run out of fluid whilst trying to remove it and end up with massive white smears across your screen?

All the time in a nova as the bottle holds about a to tea cups full lol lol

[The Simps]

Only ponses relocate the washer bottle - leave as is.

[scott.parker]

Only ponses relocate the washer bottle - leave as is.

Yeah but I'm guessing he's only thinking this as he's cut the bracket of now lol

[trackdaynova]

get rid of it you big fag. i didn't run one on my white nova when it was my only daily car to get around, to work and back.

*bends down to help people to jump on his back with the 'you can get three points for not having water in your washer bottle' band wagon... yes, you actually need a washer bottle, to add water to... sir*

[trackdaynova]

whore

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2019&d=1122324819

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2018&d=1122324819

[Dar]

I tucked mine away up there
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/2009%20Mods/DSC08512_800x600.jpg
Not come up with a decent mounting method yet.

[Plug]

maybe make up a bracket where the bumper bolts to the chassis leg and put it down there.

May get dirty but oh well

[Benn]

Get a tiny mini one, they hold about a pint. Then mount that right up again the bulk head. Fill it via the scuttle pannel cut outs like i do my header tank..lol

[bai1ey]

dont some people relocate to the boot. like said before if you did this you could hide it in the rear 1/4. if you have rear doors card for wants of a better word it would only mean a small hole being cut wudnt it ? to fill thourgh

[MK999]

whore

Your daily runner was on TB's? lol

[Ash]

Make a hollow strut brace and stick a pump on the end - done :cool:

Seen it done on a mk1 golf VR, but as a header tank ;)

[LiquidPug]

How about something designed to go in the rear? (cue the double entendres) lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150334039729

[Count Vaux Alot]

get rid of it you big fag. i didn't run one on my white nova when it was my only daily car to get around, to work and back.

*bends down to help people to jump on his back with the 'you can get three points for not having water in your washer bottle' band wagon... yes, you actually need a washer bottle, to add water to... sir*

Did you have one on your most recent track car Olly? (question asked knowing full well he did...) and did you ever use the washers? (question asked knowing full well he did...)

So why on earth would i want to get rid completely? i understand removing it removes weight but on a sunny day i can run without if i want to.

IMO the advantages of having one out weigh the disadvantages of not having one.

I will run a small nova bottle and i want it to be placed somewere were the weight of it has the least effect on the car i.e a balance to something else and preferably some were as low down as possible.

[Count Vaux Alot]

dont some people relocate to the boot. like said before if you did this you could hide it in the rear 1/4. if you have rear doors card for wants of a better word it would only mean a small hole being cut wudnt it ? to fill thourgh

Do you think i would have cut 50+ holes in my cars shell if i was going to run rear door cards :tard:

[bowman]

Do you think i would have cut 50+ holes in my cars shell if i was going to run rear door cards :tard:

lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

whore



http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2018&d=1122324819
What did you remove the bracket with a pick axe? lol


Only ponses relocate the washer bottle - leave as is.
Now now at least this ponse gets on with relocating the washer bottle - how is yours going btw lol


Yeah but I'm guessing he's only thinking this as he's cut the bracket of now lol
I could just weld it back were it came from, but if i have the choice were it goes i might as well take advantage of that....



Make a hollow strut brace and stick a pump on the end - done :cool:

Seen it done on a mk1 golf VR, but as a header tank ;)
I saw that at Edition 38 last summer it was trick as funk :cool: :cool:



How about something designed to go in the rear? (cue the double entendres) lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150334039729
One of the better ideas! the further back it is the more pipe work though lol



I tucked mine away up there
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/2009%20Mods/DSC08512_800x600.jpg
Not come up with a decent mounting method yet.
Dar thanks for the constructive input unlike some - how do you fill it?

Benn a valid suggestion also.

[trackdaynova]

Dar thanks for the constructive input unlike some - how do you fill it?errrr he pours water in it :confused: :wtf: idiot.

pick axe? it was a track car that flew around a track, and not sat in a garage on a ponsey spit for weeks on end ;)

[Count Vaux Alot]

errrr he pours water in it :confused: :wtf: idiot.

pick axe? it was a track car that flew around a track, and not sat in a garage on a ponsey spit for weeks on end ;)

I said how does he fill it not what does he fill it with.....and it was a track car that flew around a track, and didn't sit in a garage on a ponsey spit for weeks on end until you got scared and sold up like a big bum fun lover XXX :wisewood:

[trackdaynova]

how does he fill it? lol what a question...

i think you're referring to my champagne nova just gone, and not my whtie one ;)

lub you. x

[bowman]

Only ponses relocate the washer bottle - leave as is.

Oi, i ressemble that comment!

[Count Vaux Alot]

how does he fill it? lol what a question...

i think you're referring to my champagne nova just gone, and not my whtie one ;)

lub you. x

Oh have you still got the white one then? ;)

The washer bottle looks like it might be awkward to fill in the place that its located so i asked how he fills it...quite simple...a bit like your fine self lol

[alistairolsen]

behind the passneger seat on the floor with a long bit of pipe. the empty bottle etc is a few hundred grams and at best it holds two litres if you run the small one.

I would never consider running without washers, or two wipers fr that matter,a dirty screen is really distracting

[Count Vaux Alot]

behind the passneger seat on the floor with a long bit of pipe. the empty bottle etc is a few hundred grams and at best it holds two litres if you run the small one.

I would never consider running without washers, or two wipers fr that matter,a dirty screen is really distracting

If there was enough room behind the passengers seat and i could access it easily then it would be a possibility as i don't think i could get to it that well i think its out for now.

[AlexW]

Run a bit of pipe along the roof, put a 1way valve in the end, the other end put into the bottom of the pump, other to the windscreen washers. :D

Did that make sence or is my **** talking again?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Run a bit of pipe along the roof, put a 1way valve in the end, the other end put into the bottom of the pump, other to the windscreen washers. :D

Did that make sence or is my **** talking again?

Your sh!t is talking again....lol

[The Simps]

Corsa bottle in the top right corner. Was one of the 1st jobs I did! lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/15-03-09005.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

Corsa bottle in the top right corner. Was one of the 1st jobs I did! lol


I think that will be in the way of my fuel set up and is still quite high in the car.
Possible locations atm include:


in the back left corner
in the front left corner to the left side of the passengers seat
in between the two seats
I will have a look later and see what i think!

[The Simps]

look at you with your fancy bullit points!! lol

[AlexW]

lol @ this thread.

My idea would work! I was just too tired to explain.

And fit a saloon washer bottle somwhere. Now i wonder who has one of those lo

[trackdaynova]

this thread is rapidly going down hill with all the talk of where to place the unnecessary large heavy water container :gay: lol

[dhdev (Oli)]

Funk, why can I still not rep you Olly!
The car is primarily a track car, so you can clean the screen between sessions and Rain-X + Wiper will keep it clean during sessions. If you've gone to the effort of removing 50+ discs of metal, then 2kgs+ of washer bottle and fluid should definately not be re-installed!

[Count Vaux Alot]

this thread is rapidly going down hill with all the talk of where to place the unnecessary large heavy water container :gay: lol

Well funk off and read/reply to something else then....i have decided to leave it out for now so all you c u n t s can sleeps easy tonight. :D

[Count Vaux Alot]

Funk, why can I still not rep you Olly!
The car is primarily a track car, so you can clean the screen between sessions and Rain-X + Wiper will keep it clean during sessions. If you've gone to the effort of removing 50+ discs of metal, then 2kgs+ of washer bottle and fluid should definately not be re-installed!

Do you run a washer bottle Oli?

[dhdev (Oli)]

Do you run a washer bottle Oli?

lollollol

Washer bottle pfft, you'll be asking me if I have aircon next lollollol








*that's a no, in case you missed it.

[draper]

lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

lollollol

Washer bottle pfft, you'll be asking me if I have aircon next lollollol








*that's a no, in case you missed it.

:roll: lol lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Right enough of the bollox and on with the build....

After the prime up i wanted to sorted something before i painted it so i cracked on with the job in hand which, was fitting the rear turret/suspension top mounting locating type things as so

This is what i had to fit

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats202.jpg

I drilled through the first skin and in to the second so the weld would hole the top mount on and the two skins together

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats203.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats205.jpg

Welded them on and cleaned it up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats207.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats208.jpg

:thumb: :thumb:

Then i got on with the fun filled task of rubbing down the inside of the car - after the prime up had came out so well it was a bit disheartening rubbing it all back....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats209.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats210.jpg

This is the colour!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats211.jpg

And this is after many hours of ball ache - hasn't turned out great but its not terrible

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats212.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats213.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats214.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

With the inside of the car now ready to start being put back together i thought i would crack on with getting the cage ready to fit

i built it all up and rubbed it down ready to be panted

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats215.jpg

then hit it with some matt black

some mid paint shots

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats219.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats220.jpg

And the finished result

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats216.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats221.jpg

Much better now and it will look really good with the green imo.

To fit the cage i obviously needed the car back on its wheels so to speak but before i flip it back over i needed to sort out the strengthening plates (2mm btw) for the lower panel as its easier to get to them with the car on its side.

So i cleaned the area up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats217.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats218.jpg

Then welded the plates in place and drilled the holes out

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats222.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats223.jpg

And gave it a quick acid etch

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats224.jpg

I could now flip the car back over and get some better pics of the paint inside the car (i will make a better effort with the outside :roll:)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats225.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats226.jpg

Its not that bad really - i fitted the black pugs back into the floor of the shell also

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats229.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/rearcagemountsandseats230.jpg

[smcgsi16v]

Hhhhmmmmm
Brtish Army Green.

Top build by the way.:thumb:

[nova ian]

Looking good soldier! Has come out really well, the military would be proud!!

Good stuff james, cage looks good too in matt black :cool:

[Ernie]

You will be calling your self kernel decker next lol.
Looking good mate.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Who the funk is Kernel Decker?? lol

[Ernie]

you young lads lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya3bl0CypP0

[LiquidPug]

Who the funk is Kernel Decker?? lol
'80's A-Team reference
http://www.budster.net/gifs/quagmire/quagmire_family_guy_the_a-team.jpg

[John]

looking good james! Love the colour! no shiney bits reflecting on sunny days.

[peester]

tis a bit armyish, but it just stands out a bit at the mo - it'll be riite once all the rest is done and complete.
awesome build, very good at this stuff.

[Count Vaux Alot]

you young lads lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya3bl0CypP0

lol

[Graeme]

Love the colour James, it'll definately make people remember it on the track

[The Simps]

Good work as always! Not feeling the colour at this stage but I trust your choice and know I'll like it when its done. :thumb:

[djbrowney]

awsome work make, only just seen this thread i must have been asleep lol

[Benn]

Is it staying in matt? Colours cool will look great with the black cage.

[scott.parker]

lol Will be the green mean machine then?

[burgo]

well its errr different

[discoinferno]

good work

[Fudge]

this is amazing, top work lad, cant wait to see it done, i wish i had skills with metal lol , i love that clean white nova with the black engine:) any ideas on power from that?

[Graeme]

I believe that is Trackdaynova's previous to his last project, have a look if there is a wip for it or pm him

[scott.parker]

this is amazing, top work lad, cant wait to see it done, i wish i had skills with metal lol , i love that clean white nova with the black engine:) any ideas on power from that?

If im right i think it was about 188bhp on TB's.

Scott

[Count Vaux Alot]

If im right i think it was about 188bhp on TB's.

Scott

Something like that it could have been 193bhp but not 100% sure :confused:

[Count Vaux Alot]

Thanks for all the comments people especially the ones on the colour choice and as said it will make people remember it whether its because they loved it or hated it...which coincidently is like my saloon as there were questions raised about colour choice there as well.....lol

Also thanks to the people appreciating the fab work etc as it makes the effort more worth while :thumb: :thumb:

[scott.parker]

Something like that it could have been 193bhp but not 100% sure :confused:

I'm sure his last one was that, but the white one was around 188

Anyway keep from hijacking your thread.:roll: :)

[The Simps]

all in a days work for you mate.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Scott i think Ollys champaign one was 197bhp?

[MK999]

Your sig should be changed to don't bust a spleen because it's green or something (I dunno what else would rhyme with green and work)

[scott.parker]

Scott i think Ollys champaign one was 197bhp?

If it was I'll take his offer of the map then lol:thumb: