Project Carbon 4x4

[marc69]

Want a second opinion? I have saved several Novas (and a mini) that were set for scrapping but, the blue and red mk2 were just too far.....

It really depends how much structure is there and then you decide if you want to go for it.

[marc69]

^ I'm attacking it with one just now lol


Whoops

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/0344A841-9966-4454-8980-F776AC87EEB7-12583-000011509E552D76_zpsf82adf24.jpg

I apologise but I did have a small giggle at the whoops.

[conad]

It will be getting blasted but the problem is there might not be any metal left after it lol and as much as it pains me to say it, it really is a rot box at the moment :(

just get it blasted asap, you'll know where you stand then. its pointless spending time and money on this shell if its going to be like a swiss cheese after blasting.... sorry if im bursting your bubble here dude, just trying to be the voice of reason. :thumb:

[16xe_chris]

Hello space frame project ;-)

[bazzap8389]

Want a second opinion? I have saved several Novas (and a mini) that were set for scrapping but, the blue and red mk2 were just too far.....

It really depends how much structure is there and then you decide if you want to go for it.
Yeah you can easy come and take a look at it :)

just get it blasted asap, you'll know where you stand then. its pointless spending time and money on this shell if its going to be like a swiss cheese after blasting.... sorry if im bursting your bubble here dude, just trying to be the voice of reason. :thumb:
Yeah I know what you mean mate

Hello space frame project ;-)

Would it be road legal if I did this? Would be my best option if the chassis is too far gone. I'm not scrapping my car lol

[marc69]

Gives a shout

[david dixon]

nothing is ever too far gone, you can buy just about every panel for a nova

[16xe_chris]

nothing is ever too far gone, you can buy just about every panel for a nova

Agreed matey, I'd probably get it acid dipped then see what's left.

At least then the bare metal that is left will be a doodle to weld too and cut out out etc ;-)

[8valve-craig]

I would get it up on 4 stands nice and high, strip as much as you can like the axle, tank and exhaust and go over the whole underside with a sharp tool.

That will tell you wether you want to send it for dipping / blasting, and potentially save you a few quid if you find what you consider to be too much rust.

Good luck.

[bazzap8389]

nothing is ever too far gone, you can buy just about every panel for a nova
That's what I like to hear :)

Agreed matey, I'd probably get it acid dipped then see what's left.

At least then the bare metal that is left will be a doodle to weld too and cut out out etc ;-)
Sounds a plan to me!

I would get it up on 4 stands nice and high, strip as much as you can like the axle, tank and exhaust and go over the whole underside with a sharp tool.

That will tell you wether you want to send it for dipping / blasting, and potentially save you a few quid if you find what you consider to be too much rust.

Good luck.

I'll get that done next week, I've got everything off it except the rear beam just now, I was keeping that on so I can keep it rolling. The floor at the front of the car seems to be pretty good just the back end, engine bay is pretty **** aswell though lol

Is it better to get it dipped or blasted? Or is it 6 in half?

Thanks

[16xe_chris]

We once had a grp A siera blasted and it was a pig to get rid of all of the blasting meadia that goes every where.

At least with dipping they completely wash the shell inside and out, after the acid then prime it on site for you, most places that I know of have done that for customers.

[16xe_chris]

Have a look at this site matey, bit of a ride out for you but your more than welcome to have a pit stop at my house ;-)

http://www.surfaceprocessing.co.uk/paint-stripping-vauxhall.html

[bazzap8389]

Thanks for the link Chris, Ive been looking for local places and cant find anything at all so might have to be there lol would i have to cut the rotten arches etc off or would the dipping take care of that?

[peester]

it would be much clearer after dipping where to cut from/to - but yes dipping would rid of rust just leave you with holes. I'd give the place(s) a call/visit their website im sure many FAQ's will be on there.

[dgbnova#1]

I've just looked at there site and spoken to them asking for full price list. I will post ot here when they send it over.
From what I read they
Strip it and you take it away
Make all your fabrication repairs (not filler work or seam sealer) and also add small holes if needed to help strip/paint at the second dip stage.
Return the shell to them for
Re dip and coat up
They do the same anti corrosion treatment as new cars get with complete immersion so inside every area you would never get to in a million years with blast or paints.

[16xe_chris]

Dipping would sort that out for you ;-)

The acid will eat away any rubbish thin metal and get it back to something good to start work on.

[turbojolt]

the engine bay of my nova was shot/sand blasted, I found sand type stuff under the carpet behind the rear bench!

[Edd]

Do not get it dipped at SPL

I have a shell that's been dipped by them and the work is NOT worth the money

Please don't waste your cash with them complete cowboys

[nova_niek]

Have a look at this site matey, bit of a ride out for you but your more than welcome to have a pit stop at my house ;-)

http://www.surfaceprocessing.co.uk/paint-stripping-vauxhall.html

I've read some interesting comments on here about the workmanship of the people at Surface Processing. Words like "cowboys" spring to mind. You might want to have a word with Keith Robinson.

Is there anyone on here that has had their shell dipped and treated many years ago and can comment on the current state of their shell with regards to rust? This because all dipping companies make huge claims, but none of them are able to back up their claims by referring to customer's cars that had been done years ago. To me, this is dodgy practice. :wtf:

My personal experience with blasting is on par with 16xe_chris' - I've once had a Nova shell done and that had tons of media left over in every bloody hole and orifice. Despite going all the way to clean out the shelll as thoroughly as possible, this got really "interesting" when the bodyshop started to paint the inside of the shell. :mad:

Dipping and blasting aside, other options in restoration techniques are dry ice blasting and thermal paint stripping. The latter is usually followed by mild blasting to clean up the surfaces. The only downside I see with dry ice blasting is you can't get inside box sections like chassis legs.

thermal paint strippers:
http://www.beadshot.co.uk/index.htm

dry ice blasters:
http://www.heritagedryiceblasting.co.uk/index.php

Useless additional information: a well respected German car mag tested a number of rust treatment/prevention liquids like Waxoyl and Tectyl. The winner was Mike Sander's Fett which won the test hands down. Just to let you know.

Hope this helps.

[dgbnova#1]

Good idea niek also ask surface processing for customers who would recommend because realty Is they should not need to come back if it's done well..... But they will come back if they are happy with more cars or recommend people. Mini forum prob the most likely to have the most cars dipped

[bazzap8389]

Thanks guys lots of good info there! I would rep you Niek but need to spread some around!

Does anyone else have any dealings with spl? Seems to be mixed reviews!

Dgbnova did they get back to you with a price?

Cheers

[dgbnova#1]

Yes got an email with details but don't know how to put it ul here. How is that done or I can forward it to an address if someone wants to do it

[dgbnova#1]

Got it! Daft sod

Many thanks for your enquiry. Assuming the parts to be all steel with no aluminium present the cost to process your Vauxhall Nova would be as follows:

To chemically clean the bodyshell including the Boot Lid, Bonnet & Doors - £795.00 + VAT

We recommend that you have your shell chemically stripped of all coatings, take it away and do your weld repair work and then return the shell to us for the zinc phosphate primer. If you choose this route you will get surface rust on the shell whilst carrying out your repair work, however, we would then carry out a de-rust process before coating your shell.

To de-rust the bodyshell to clean surface rust and contamination - £400.00 + VAT (if you have your shell cleaned and coated all in the same visit you would not need the de-rust process).

To electrophoretic coating on bodyshell -£1450.00 + VAT

To electrophoretic coating on the panelwork -£300.00 + VAT. This covers standard panelwork on a car i.e. 2 doors, bonnet and boot lid.

All prices are subject to VAT at the prevailing rate All prices are quoted ex-works All parts are assumed to be mild steel* This Quotation will be valid for 30 days

Turnaround

booking

now

are

We

stripping and August 2013 for the electrophoretic coating process.

approximately 3 weeks from receipt depending on which processes you choose.

Delivery/Collection We can provide telephone numbers of transport companies but it is generally cheaper to hire a van and/or trailer for the day. We do not offer transport ourselves.

Further information You can find further information about our company on our website at www.surfaceprocessing.co.uk. We would strongly recommend that you to read through the Process section and the Restoration Guide on the web-site as this will give you a good indication of what to expect from the process and how best to prepare and care for your project before and after processing.

*Our process will not affect brazing but will invariably remove lead loading. Customers must ensure that all aluminium and zinc items are removed from the shell prior to process as this will be dissolved if left on. We offer a separate service for the cleaning of aluminium / zinc parts and panels.

Any sealed box sections / tubes or voids must be free draining and adequately vented (this can be done simply with a 6mm drill) to aid the effectiveness of the process. If you are at all unsure about how to prepare the shell / part for processing or what to expect from the process please contact us we are more than happy to offer our advice,

Kind regards

Georgina

Surface Processing Ltd Unit 20 Sovereign Works Deepdale Lane Lower Gornal Dudley DY3 2AF

Tel: 01384 242010 Fax: 01384 242090

[bazzap8389]

Send it to bazzap8389@hotmail.co.uk please and I'll take a look
Cheers :)

[Novasport]

I wouldnt bother with SPL, me and Keith had nothing but problems. When it goes tits up they aren't interested even though you are spending a lot of money with them.
Horrid company to deal with.

[marc69]

I know a guy who spent a fortune getting his mk2 cortina done, can't remember tthe companys name. Anyway it was aboslutely gorgeous, he rebuilt it and was pleased. 6 months later the who,e car was pitted beneath the paint, looked like someone had put a layer of sand under the paint all over and every bit of bodywork on the car. To say he was gutted was an under statement, and of course they said it left the place immaculate etc. Clearly he would have been better doing it himself!!

[dgbnova#1]

I had a good look today and could find no other options for dipping in the uk so next would be another dipping options anyone? I will ask my mate he's part of the motor sport club here they must use someone prob SPL!

[pie]

this is going to be a epic build :)

[dgbnova#1]

I wouldnt bother with SPL, me and Keith had nothing but problems. When it goes tits up they aren't interested even though you are spending a lot of money with them.
Horrid company to deal with.

What problems did you both have?
Was it a while ago and if so most important, did it work in the long run?

[bazzap8389]

Thanks for that mate dgb not actually as expensive as I thought but if there **** it's a lot of money for **** service. I think I'll have to get the panel beater to come and take a look at it and see what he thinks.

I think the rot looks bad to me because im new to this so hopefully ain't as bad as I think it is. I'll let the pros decide lol


Cheers pie :)

[bazzap8389]

Looking for a few opinions, I'm thinking of going for wider arches, mostly so I can fit wider wheels on for traction. What do you lot think keep it "standard" or go wider?

[dgbnova#1]

Are you thinking custom wider or rally cross wide ?

[bazzap8389]

They would potentially be going around 2" wider at the front and back. I don't have my quarters yet but means buying another pair of carbon wings.

[dgbnova#1]

You would sell them in a heartbeat I'd have them if the price was right fancy that lookin to shave as much weight of my cage shell

[bazzap8389]

yeah i would have thought so aswell, but if i do decide to go wider ill be holding on to these aswell mate.

[Vlietje]

They would potentially be going around 2" wider at the front and back. I don't have my quarters yet but means buying another pair of carbon wings.

Not yet? Is Chris using them as a template then?? :)

[dgbnova#1]

I think that's what they were purchased for, to make the templates .

[Vlietje]

I think that's what they were purchased for, to make the templates .

Ah... yes of course...DUH...

[bazzap8389]

I bought them for 2 reasons.

1. For a mould for the carbon ones
2. If something was to go wrong with the carbon ones or if i wanted to put the car back to original i can:)

I'll be picking them up at some point later in the year when all my other bits are finished off, saves doing the 5 hour or so drive a few times.

[bazzap8389]

Not much of an update but just stripped my rear beam down, does anyone know what these discs came off of?

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/47BE1D0D-6710-4B50-9A43-C5574BB18F51-2827-000003D3F49E9082_zps03d46e57.jpg

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/D720F530-8183-49D5-8CDD-BC5F4E3A9A36-2827-000003D3F933B30E_zps15bd8ff5.jpg

[Jeff16v]

does anyone know what these discs came off of?

MK II astra GTE probably, they look the same as mine

[BRoadGhost]

Yeah I'd go along with that; the cav versions are rounded where they face the drive flange.

[bazzap8389]

Cheers :)

[16xe_chris]

Seems as though it was sunny today I decided to get a few shots for you ;-)

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zpsc7b01a2a.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zps9c2cecf1.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zpsa43bbebd.jpg

I'll get some better pictures soon for you matey

[Jonlem]

Avoid SPL. We spoke to these guys at Autosport and they seemed very helpful

http://www.envirostripukltd.com/

[Graeme]

I know Colin smith use paint-strip.co.uk at Preston for his sprint car and iirc he was happy with them, I've used them for some parts and their service has been great and good rates for cash also

[bazzap8389]

Seems as though it was sunny today I decided to get a few shots for you ;-)

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zpsc7b01a2a.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zps9c2cecf1.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zpsa43bbebd.jpg

I'll get some better pictures soon for you matey

That looks sick! Just what my thread needed i think lol not had pics of carbon in a while lol Can't wait to see the last few bits when there done, hopefully I'll be down to collect in the next few months :)

Avoid SPL. We spoke to these guys at Autosport and they seemed very helpful
http://www.envirostripukltd.com/

Thanks for that mate Just wish it was a bit closer, I'll look into it :)

I know Colin smith use paint-strip.co.uk at Preston for his sprint car and iirc he was happy with them, I've used them for some parts and their service has been great and good rates for cash also

Thanks Graeme, good to know their reliable then, it's just getting the car there that's the problem lol

[16xe_chris]

If you could get the shell to the Preston one I can always pick it back up for you and dry store it till your ready to come back down ;-)

Or ask how long they will take to do it and camp out here lol

[bazzap8389]

That's very kind of you :) I'll keep you updated on that, I might end up getting it media blasted up here much less hassle. I'll have a word with the bodyshop when I'm back from my holiday and take it from there.

[bazzap8389]

Carbon roof on the cards now!

[bazil]

It would be rude not too !!!

[Edd]

Get it done lol

[rob89]

Think you should ask Bazil for a lend of his panels and go daft with carbon lol

[bazzap8389]

It would have been very rude not to, really excited about this build now it's made my day lol

Rob, I now have everything except the floor really think I've got everything I need or at least on order lol

[bazzap8389]

Got these today, just waiting on my front panel now and then it will be going in the body shop. :)


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/AE469E47-D630-4BF3-8660-FA718C2BDF9C-8916-00000B0CC58D1F8D_zpsb385fbbb.jpg

[Benn]

Are the turrets that rotten?

[bazzap8389]

They look pretty bad, bought these just incase. I won't be using them if there not too bad though.

[Benn]

Funny that's a panel i look at and think if it needed replacing i'd buy another nova... lol Good man for doing it.

[bazzap8389]

I'll see what they think about it, when the guy saw the car before I stripped it he didn't think it was that bad. Maybe i just see the rot and think its worse then it is. Hey ho it's getting fixed either way lol

[Jamie.]

Were you get the turrets mate? cant believe the amount of carbon on this car haha, brilliant work

[dgbnova#1]

Got these today, just waiting on my front panel now and then it will be going in the body shop. :)


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/AE469E47-D630-4BF3-8660-FA718C2BDF9C-8916-00000B0CC58D1F8D_zpsb385fbbb.jpg

It's also funny that I had a conversation with a man called Chris who dose a bit or carbon work, about these pannels, without the strut tops as a carbon replacement they are only there to keep water out I thought or a carbon overly so it looks like carbon from above would they be of intrest to anyone?

Hope the roof turns out ok for the temple, i can get myself and one at some point in the future hopefully.

[bazzap8389]

Were you get the turrets mate? cant believe the amount of carbon on this car haha, brilliant work
I got them off a guy off W88rdy off here mate.


It's also funny that I had a conversation with a man called Chris who dose a bit or carbon work, about these pannels, without the strut tops as a carbon replacement they are only there to keep water out I thought or a carbon overly so it looks like carbon from above would they be of intrest to anyone?

Hope the roof turns out ok for the temple, i can get myself and one at some point in the future hopefully.

I had a conversation with a man calle chris about these panels also lol as you said would be fine without the strut part I would think, but a bit has to be cut out of mine for the turbo so it will be one bit I won't need in carbon. Yeah I'm sure the roof will turn out ok, I've got high hopes anyway lol

[Jamie.]

Is he selling sets off them? would be handy to have just incase. whos doing all the carbon mate? looks top quality work

[bazzap8389]

He had 2 sets but the other Didnt have the turret.

yeah the bits are great quality :) its from chris @ cmcomposites

[Southie]

Get Chris to make carbon turrets lol

[Jamie.]

Npz mate, share if your selling them let me know, id be interested. Cant wait to se this car finished

[bazzap8389]

Would if I could southie lol

Yeah I'll let you know if I sell them doubt it though lol

[16xe_chris]

Bit more carbon for you matey, these just need a final polishing up ;-)

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zps93c10540.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zps0e818f5e.jpg

[bazzap8389]

They look awesome :)

[Vlietje]

Pron!!

[nova.mike]

Looks amazing, them side skirts are lush, wouldn't mind a set myself :p

[16xe_chris]

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q496/16xe_chris/null_zpse573d12d.jpg

[bazzap8389]

^ can't wait to pick up all the remaining bits I'm buzzin :)

[pie]

really cant wait to see this built :)

[Benn]

Guessing these go for a good price...

[Mazz]

circa £140 iirc from faceache

[bazzap8389]

Not an update as such but got a gm front panel for it now so it's ready to go into the bodyshop. Hopefully be in the shop in the next few weeks :)



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[bazzap8389]

Eventually got round to taking the tank off today aswell.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/661C87BC-A432-4D26-8B5B-057D04C19C54-446-00000097DAEB0937_zps23daea79.jpg

[tahir868]

Great work mate, all the carbon parts will look stunning next to the red!

[bazzap8389]

Thanks mate, was a Pig to get that tank off without breaking things all the clips etc was corroded. I won't need them again but trying to keep everything intact.

Yeah will look good I hope, although there won't be much red, just the grille bit below the windscreen and the pillars rest will be carbon. Maybe some red wheels lol

[rob89]

Good stuff :) can't wait to see this piece together......will pop through tomorrow maybe well if its dry.

[bazzap8389]

Spot on bud, just give me a shout. I'm free tonight if your in Aberdeen.

[philip]

Be good to get on weigh bridge/corner weighted when all done:D

[bazzap8389]

I'm quite curious as to how much it will weigh aswell. I'll get it on a weigh bridge :)

[Nick J]

Have you discussed with your bodyshop how they are going to hide the joins when fitting the quarters? Their is always going to be joints somewere which makes me think you would be better off not bothering with quarters. Even covered with paint and well thought out chances are it will look like a two tone patch work quilt. I would definitely say you'd be better off going down a similar route to big Rons corsa and just going for bolt on panels and or roof panel. Getting these fitted and aligned will be a huge mission alone.

Nick.

[bazzap8389]

No, I havnt actually discussed the quarters with them yet. I was thinking that the bit that bonds into the c pillar will be painted red and hopefully shouldn't be too noticeable if it is i could maybe fet a bit of vinyl over it or something and the rest will be along the bottom of the window so the window seals will take care Of that not being on show. I'll be having a word with them in the coming weeks when I have the car ready for them. I'll keep this updated as to what's appening.

Has rons corsa not got a full carbon roof?

[Nick J]

The only way round it in my eyes is to fit two full body sides but I doubt their even available nowadays to take moulds from. Nearly all body shops would want to fit a quarter through the b/c pillars and the sill. So if you fit original vinyl over the b pillar you've still got joins on the c pillar and the sill to sort. Thinking about it you will have a carbon roof with red a and c pillars, carbon sides but with red sills then a carbon front and rear end. In all honestly I think it would look rather odd unless you colour changed to gloss black or had further carbon laid over joints which would just add a load more work and probably never leave a level finish. I spent hours on a carbon bonnet for a previous red project of mine thinking it would look great with my black bumpers. Once we got it on the car not only did it fit appallingly but it looked pants too hence why I sold it on. I think big ron found quite a clever balance with the cars first incarnation and if I was you that's what I'd aim for. Please don't take it the wrong way I'm just pointing out how I see it. It all depends what you want the car for I guess? If its all go and no show then I guess it wouldn't matter however I get the feeling your after more than that?

Nick.

[bazzap8389]

I know what your saying nick, I personally think the red is going to go well with the carbon but if it doesn't I'll just wrap it. And regarding the sills you won't see them as I have carbon skirts aswell. Looked everywhere for full quarters and couldn't find so I had to go with the other ones instead. I could maybe get fibreglass smoothed on the c pillar over the join then painted to hide the join I'll leave that for the body shop to tell me what an be done and what can't though. I'll maybe see if I can get a photoshop done for it aswell. Thanks for your input though nick :)

[bazil]

Full quarters were an option but if didn't seem to happen, im still willing to let chris take moulds of mine but it would be best done soon before they get used

In theory the only visible metal you should be left with is the A post, scuttle panel and the sill when the doors are open, carbon gsi skirts would cover the rest of the sill,

Another option would be to make the sill part of the quarter panel mould so it would be 1 piece

[bazzap8389]

Pm on route bazil

[bazil]

Replied mate,

[Vlietje]

Full quarters were an option but if didn't seem to happen, im still willing to let chris take moulds of mine but it would be best done soon before they get used

In theory the only visible metal you should be left with is the A post, scuttle panel and the sill when the doors are open, carbon gsi skirts would cover the rest of the sill,

Another option would be to make the sill part of the quarter panel mould so it would be 1 piece

Got a scuttle panel here to use for a mold... lol

edit: but that's LHD...

[w88rdy]

Funny that's a panel i look at and think if it needed replacing i'd buy another nova... lol Good man for doing it.

This coming from a guy who took the roof off haha

[16xe_chris]

Bazil can you send me some pictures of the full quarters just so I can get my head around making them, do they have the roof gutter piece on there and do they go right to the front of the a pillar?

cmcomposites@hotmail.co.uk

Chris

[bazil]

Will do chris,

Yeah its basically the full side, from door seal rubber to tailgate rubber joins and sill to roof gutter

Just for a quick idea heres a pic, ill get better ones to email you,

The second picture shows them lying with sills, ideally this would be the ideal mould for bazza as it would replace the full sill and leave no exposed metal, but I guess a pita to do lol
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/gsi/P2050017.jpghttp://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/gsi/P2050016.jpg

[shaunboy84]

bazil always has the good goodies :P

[Benn]

This coming from a guy who took the roof off haha

lol well yeah i guess...

[bazzap8389]

I just have a few bits to do before it goes in the shop now, here's a pic from tonight.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/02D1513E-F16B-4188-B144-CECD31AD74BF-25335-00001BDB6CDEE0C2_zps4ec553ed.jpg

Ive hit a snag removing the loom, it's wrapped around the steering rack so thought if I took the nuts and bolts out the rack I could pull tthem straight out but one side has a rectangular nut at the top and dome shaped at the bottom and just won't slacken off, any advice? Once it's off the loom is free to come out.

Been having a nightmare trying to remove these doors aswell, I snapped the extractor pin so I made another one at work today but didn't get the chance to try it out.

[8valve-craig]

The steering column has a sheer bolt, knock the domed head around anti clockwise with a cold chisel.

[bazzap8389]

Ah I see, thanks mate :)

[marc69]

You should be able to get the loom out without removing the column? I have removed a 1.0 and a 1.2i loom complete, the 1.2i should be a similar idea?

Door removal......fun. Did you buy an extractor set? The draper ones I used did two sets of doors and never snapped but just got worn.

[Nick J]

If you can't get the pins out with the tool then I'd heat them with gas bottles and try again as once theyve seen heat it should be easier. Failing that drill them out! To get the doors off my first car (nova gte) we had to cut big holes in the doors and then drill the pins out. Not a favourite method but it was having new doors like yours will be so not to worry.

Nick.

[marc69]

I am sure you'll be able to knock the split one out with patience, feel free to borrow the pin kit which I think I still have, as Nick said, some heat will make a difference, once you get the first bit of movement you'll be fine.

[bazzap8389]

I won't be able to take the loom out in 1 piece as its wrapped around the rack, and yeah I bought the laser one the pins are just cheap steel so I've made a better one to do the job. Nick I've got a we blowtorch at my lockup so I'll attack te hinges with that next time I'm over. Cheers

[Benn]

Rack or column? Loom is only 1 bit at the fuse box end, so just unplug the rest and it will come out...

[bazzap8389]

The way this is wired in I can't simply unplug it, I'd have to cut it which ain't happening.

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[dgbnova#1]

Just remove the column then the loom should slip out through the middle, shear bolt a pain but get it easy with Yeh dash out

[bazzap8389]

Just keep hitting it with a chisel until it comes free?

[Benn]

Never seen it over the top of the column like that, I'd unbolt it too, and even snapping the bolt with a spanner will free it off, the one in the pic doesn't look done up anyway...

[bazzap8389]

That's because that's the side I free'd off lol

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[Benn]

Ah, then yea start hitting it.... Or grind it off...

Wait, that's not a gm loom.... Aftermarket alarm? Just cut it out...

[dgbnova#1]

Just keep hitting it with a chisel until it comes free?


Yep straight at it to make a dent then angle to undo it so on pass side then hit it towardsthe front

Once it's lose use mole grips

Doors are a pain if you keeping them give them a good coat of wd40 then hit them with the heat
You will prob burn the outer part of the door and just heat the door hinge not the shell make sure ure new pin is in and wack it while hot. If u heat the hinge on the shell you may distort it as there a pain to get goig. If ure scraping the door open it up and grind the outer skin. To get. To the pin better and start it with a punch from above as once thefe moveing will go easy
bout

[bazzap8389]

Eventually got it off! I drilled a hole in it do the chisel would sit at piece then it moved with 1 hit :)

Yeah I'm keeping the doors there in great condition, I'll have to get the doors off another day though I made my pin slightly too big. I threw the original one out so just had to guess the size.

[bazzap8389]

Ah, then yea start hitting it.... Or grind it off...

Wait, that's not a gm loom.... Aftermarket alarm? Just cut it out...

I would cut it mate but I'm colour blind I would have cut the wrong wire or something haha lol

[dgbnova#1]

So looms free now? Trust me cutting is a pain as proven last night trying to wire up a bay after years of bodge

I've not done it but have seen people list useing the bonnet stay as a long punch but 8mm bar would do the same and if you turn a nipple on the end even bettersas it will hold it in the centre of the door pin.

If ure keeping them I would try not to use any heat its never the same door after you burn them

[bazzap8389]

Yeah all wiring is out the car and none of it had to be cut :d


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/7950AF65-B995-4731-9579-FF9FFCB39DC8-26411-00001D1D5B3D1D23_zps0f790c49.jpg

Heres the pin I made today aswell, I'll take a .02" skim from it tomorrow and it will go in, fingers crossed it can get them out.

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[bazzap8389]

My we pin remover done the job :) got the buggers out just now!


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[Liam]

I've seen this a couple of times when I've been to the Brands Hatch meets and every time think of you. It's all carbon fibre with just the rear quarters and roof red.

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[bazzap8389]

Looks a right weapon that!

[bazzap8389]

Spoke to the guy at the body shop today looks like the nova will be going in, in 2 weeks time or so :)

[ocdstigy]

Carbon,carbon everywhere :D

[novadave24]

this is coming on really well mate :)

[bazzap8389]

^ yeah finally getting there. goes in to the body shop on Saturday :d

[bazzap8389]

We'll i still don't have this in the body shop yet... I've been told there very busy at the moment but I'll get a call when they can get it in. Gives me some time to save some pennies though.

Bought myself a new custom cages weld in multi point cage aswell to replace the safety devices bolt in one, just need somewhere to fit it.

[bazzap8389]

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zpsd5531d38.jpg

i got this 14 piece plating kit today, I don't need the strut plates but came with the kit, also got an f28 gearbox mount today.

the bodyshop my car was supposed to be going in still haven't phoned me, so Scorge spoke to a guy he knows for me and it's going into his shop instead now. I think the car is getting picked up from my lockup this weekend :)

[scorge01]

Sherm will buy strut plates off you bud as his don't have them ;)
an it sure is il collect the car on Sunday I think as picking up another car on sat :) then you can progress with the build :)
bet you can't wait :)

[bazzap8389]

Ah no bother then, I know I'm buzzin for progress done nothing for months lol

[dgbnova#1]

You got an time in mind for finishing then?
Iv got someone after the tops if there going pm me details

[bazzap8389]

I'm wanting it totally finished by 2015, I could maybe have it done next year if i put a standard let in but that ain't happening lol

i think I've got a buyer mate but I'll let you know :)

[dc1984]

Why not fit them Bazza?

[bazzap8389]

What the strut plates? It's a gsi bud already has them :)

[dgbnova#1]

The new ones ure not useing on it the ones in the box

[bazzap8389]

My new cage turned up today :) it's a t45 multi point one all the other bars are in the black bag which I couldn't be bothered to open lol

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps43a90035.jpg

[nova_stee]

How heavy does it feel?

[dgbnova#1]

Mmmmm t45 :thumb:

[dc1984]

Nice one mate :)

[bazzap8389]

:)

its 38kg excluding the seat rails so prob around 40kg or so

[Benn]

That carbon drag Nova is for sale.... You should buy some bits...

[bazzap8389]

I've pretty much got everything now :) the bits I don't have I'll be picking up in the next few weeks.

[burgo]

Very nice buy. Id be finding someone to tig it in myself

[bazzap8389]

Thanks :) I think I've got someone to do the welding for it if not I'll be taking it to my work to get done.

[bazzap8389]

That's her finally away, thanks to scorge for picking it up for me!

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[nova_niek]

Progress! Yay! :thumb:

[bazzap8389]

Progress! Yay! :thumb:

About time eh lol this has been 40 pages of nothing so far lol hopefully see some good progress over the next few weeks/months :)

[novadave24]

I cant wait iam waching :)

[dc1984]

Looking forward to it mate :)

[ocdstigy]

Is that her off to get painted mate? About f***ing time lol

[bazzap8389]

Is that her off to get painted mate? About f***ing time lol

Thanks Dave and dc :)

lol nope painting ain't happening yet, I've got a new front panel, rear panel, sills, plating kit to be welded on and get it all seam welded and cage welded in and fix the rotten bits etc then it will be getting painted lol I think the roof and quarters will be getting cut off before paint as well, I'll have to have a word with them about that.

[ocdstigy]

lol nope painting ain't happening yet, I've got a new front panel, rear panel, sills, plating kit to be welded on and get it all seam welded and cage welded in and fix the rotten bits etc then it will be getting painted lol

holy mackrel lol i want to see paint on this before my birthday haha!

[bazzap8389]

Well it's going to be a we while until this shell gets it's carbon clothes on now....

just got some bad news about my shell it's very rotten basically everywhere underneath :cry: Much worse then I first thought as well. I'm going over on Saturday to check it out :(

[dgbnova#1]

Bad news mate hopeing it's not to bad you will be looking for a donor shell to get bits off probably if it's bad

[bazzap8389]

I'll see what it's like then take it from there could very well be looking for another shell to cut up.

[novadave24]

I hope it can be saved mate .

[bazzap8389]

Thanks mate, it will be getting saved no matter what the cost though tbh

[bazzap8389]

I went over to see the car in Saturday, it's not quite as bad as I thought bud still not great, the work starts in it today though so hopefully have some decent updates shortly :)

[philip]

About time:roll:lol

[abznovasport]

Where's it gone to get welded??

[bazzap8389]

It's a we place beside Stonehaven that's doing it for me.

[nova_niek]

Thanks mate, it will be getting saved no matter what the cost though tbh

That's dedication :thumb:


I went over to see the car in Saturday, it's not quite as bad as I thought bud still not great, the work starts in it today though so hopefully have some decent updates shortly :)

Yeah! Get them updates coming!

[bazzap8389]

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[novarally]

Spaceframe it............

[dgbnova#1]

That nasty little tin worm been all happy in there little fat f@%3r did they give you a plan of action or some idea's on what there gona do

[nova_stee]

Spaceframe it............
Think about do that to mine and its proably one of the best shells left lol

[ocdstigy]

rust is lighter than carbon fibre lol

[bazzap8389]

Spaceframe it............
I've been thinking about it, will this still be road legal if I so it? I need to keep it road legal.

That nasty little tin worm been all happy in there little fat f@%3r did they give you a plan of action or some idea's on what there gona do
Going to use the repair panels I've got then make up rear inners etc going to be lots of modifying in the back end getting done. Like I've said above I have been thinking about space framing it.

[novarally]

I've been thinking about it, will this still be road legal if I so it? I need to keep it road legal.


Yes, nothing to stop a spaceframe going on the road and being legal. Look at Caterhams, Westfields, Cobras and the like.

[bazzap8389]

Cheers, I'm going to have a proper look into I think it's the best route to go down. :)

[MK999]

It is however prohibitively expensive. Last time I looked (when it was a BIVA test you needed) it was about £1500 and if it didn't pass you'd have to go back and pay it again. They do like to change the rules classifications and pricing every once in a while though.

[novarally]

It is however prohibitively expensive. Last time I looked (when it was a BIVA test you needed) it was about £1500 and if it didn't pass you'd have to go back and pay it again. They do like to change the rules classifications and pricing every once in a while though.

If it's already registered on a V5, and structural metalwork is replaced with tubing, I'm not convinced you need any additional testing.

[MK999]

Any modification to the original chassis (i.e the monocoque not including doors etc) means it requires testing. Technically any Nova with a C20XE and the required alternator cutout requires retesting.

Due to the classifications, I couldn't find any other way except the "one off car build" that you can legally get a car on the road. Mine would have got a new ID as well.

If I remember correctly it was even very difficult to get it out of the class that something like a Caparo T1 (limited run manufacturer builds) would go through which includes emissions etc.

[novarally]

Any modification to the original chassis (i.e the monocoque not including doors etc) means it requires testing. Technically any Nova with a C20XE and the required alternator cutout requires retesting.

Due to the classifications, I couldn't find any other way except the "one off car build" that you can legally get a car on the road. Mine would have got a new ID as well.

If I remember correctly it was even very difficult to get it out of the class that something like a Caparo T1 (limited run manufacturer builds) would go through which includes emissions etc.

Ignorance is the best defence. Don't say anything and I would bet the MoT centre doesn't have an issue.

[Benn]

That's what i go on too^ 10points for a standard mot? I get two... hahaha

[bazzap8389]

Thanks for the info guys, if I get someone to pass an mot for me would it ever be questioned from another mot station etc? Or would it just pass as normal?

[bazzap8389]

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[Benn]

Your jig is a lil eek looking lol

Good work on cutting the rust out.

[Southie]

That's some weight saving Bazz, I hope it all pans out for you on this build, it's going to be one expensive nova though when it's finished but my words it will be worth the hard work ;)

[bazzap8389]

Your jig is a lil eek looking lol

Good work on cutting the rust out. lol it's more sturdy than it looks lol best way to
keep it in the air since we can't use the spit for the time being lol


That's some weight saving Bazz, I hope it all pans out for you on this build, it's going to be one expensive nova though when it's finished but my words it will be worth the hard work ;)
Not sure how much will actually be saved yet as the new panels have to be welded in etc but I'll be making a few changes with the boot floor etc, yeah I think it's going to cost quite a bit by the time it's finished but I think it will be worth it too :)

[supernova.629]

Whot like is boot floor and rear chassis legs silly qestion when you hopeing to have it on the road

[dgbnova#1]

It's not that bad and you got the whole front new anyway just standard nova spots I'd be happy taking that on seeing you have the pannels and the rear legs just need plates doing tidy and will be fine

[bazzap8389]

Whot like is boot floor and rear chassis legs silly qestion when you hopeing to have it on the roadboot floor has holes in it etc think I'm cutting out the wheel well as well. Chassis legs aren't that great. Hoping to have it done by the end of 2015.


It's not that bad and you got the whole front new anyway just standard nova spots I'd be happy taking that on seeing you have the pannels and the rear legs just need plates doing tidy and will be fine yeah just gone in the usual places really,hopefully it all comes together well, got told yesterday it's almost ready to build back up so will be more progress over the next week or so :) buzzin!

[supernova.629]

You on fackbook baz

[supernova.629]

Facebook

[bazzap8389]

Nah not on it mate cba with it lol

[Southie]

Nah not on it mate cba with it lol
More time to get this project finished then lol

[bazzap8389]

^ yeah true just loaded the roll cage into my car just now ready to drop off for fitting :)

[Southie]

Sounds good to me, have you thought ahead to which insurance company your going to try and get this with if your wanting it road worthy btw as it's going to need a value for it.

[bazzap8389]

Sounds good to me, have you thought ahead to which insurance company your going to try and get this with if your wanting it road worthy btw as it's going to need a value for it.
Nah I haven't looked into insurance yet, I'll prob get shafted tbh and I wouldn't know where to start with putting a value on it lol

[philip]

I can do engineers report for it....had a lad ask about doing one for his 20let chuv-it?

[bazzap8389]

^ text on route :)

[bazil]

Bin that front end and replace the lot, id give it 4 years tops before its needing rewelded

The rot between the seams can not be treated and once you cover it with cavity wax your fcuked, it will rot from the inside out. Cutting through the inner wing brace panels aint so clever either, you need them removed and the rot behind them cut out at the very least.

You have spent a fair few quid on the carbon bits so please dont over look the metal bits.

[bazzap8389]

^ I'm replacing everything that I can, the only thing I'm not replacing is the chassis legs as I don't have the panels and don't know where to get them, but if you know where I can get some please share!

i have cut through the inner wings because I'm replacing them with new ones including the turrets, I'm doing my best to get rid of all the rot with he parts that I have.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zpsb565e608.jpg

[Edd]

I would be sourcing front legs tbh mate, be a waste to fit the turrets on to the ones you have there

OCP not have any?

I will have a look round, see if I can find any for you

[Edd]

Pm'd

[bazzap8389]

Thanks for that Edd! That's me paid for it :) just a driver side one to find now.

[bazil]

Pm on route,

[bazzap8389]

2 brand new chassis legs on there way to me now! Thanks for the help Edd and bazil!

[bazil]

No worries, im sure between edd myself and chris you'll be bankrupt in no time lol

[bazzap8389]

No worries, im sure between edd myself and chris you'll be bankrupt in no time lol
Yeah I know lol

Got my new chassis legs today! Only ordered them on Monday aswell! Whole new front end now :)

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps60862988.jpg

[Southie]

This is going to be one cracking jigsaw puzzle lol

[tahir868]

Loving all the new gen panels :thumb:

[bazil]

Superb :)

By far the best way to do it, click the chassis measurements link in my sig for some helpful info, bare in mind the ground level is based on it being clamped in a jig

[bazzap8389]

This is going to be one cracking jigsaw puzzle lol

Hopefully it goes together fine then lol

Loving all the new gen panels :thumb:

Thanks :)

Superb :)

By far the best way to do it, click the chassis measurements link in my sig for some helpful info, bare in mind the ground level is based on it being clamped in a jig

Yeah defs, I'm glad you mentioned it otherwise I could have been regretting it in a year or so. Thanks I'll go take a look :)

[Benn]

Christ, front legs as well? Brave man, very impressed too.

[bazzap8389]

Christ, front legs as well? Brave man, very impressed too.

its for the best, saves having to worry about the rot coming back anytime soon, hopefully have them fitted next week, and thanks :)

[bazzap8389]

A few more pics from today. Chassis legs gone!

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[sparkie1401]

Got to love welding skills.....keep it up

only good about rust is it's free

[bazzap8389]

^ I won't be able to take any credit for the welding work as it won't be me doing it lol

does anyone have a pic of the cutout on the chassis leg for the alternator? If possible a pic with and without the engine in place. Thanks.

[marc69]

wow, serious rust treatment, is it a bit more than you thought last summer? Can't believe you are having this amount of work done on the shell, good on you for sticking with it.

[bazzap8389]

Yeah much much more than I thought tbh, got to be done though I've been determined to keep it alive and doing it good and proper is the only way :)

[Southie]

Wow that's some effort, stick the engine in the back and have a shortened front end to save weight lol

[bazil]

This almost makes me want to start on mine lol,

[16v]

Your a brave man but if seen the same done to older motors with great results. Btw were did you get the chassis legs?

[Southie]

This almost makes me want to start on mine lol,

:wisewood:

[Benn]

Woah.

It is wrong that with the front cut of i'd wanna space frame it?

[therealnovaboy]

love the axle stands. I hope they use somthing else when they start welding.

[bazzap8389]

This almost makes me want to start on mine lol,
Get it done!

Your a brave man but if seen the same done to older motors with great results. Btw were did you get the chassis legs? hopefully this turns out ok lol got them from ocp mate.


:wisewood:
lol


Woah.

It is wrong that with the front cut of i'd wanna space frame it?i have thought about it on many occasions but I'm going to keep it "standard" for the time being don't have the hassle of making the frame either lol


love the axle stands. I hope they use somthing else when they start welding.
Yeah they do the Job lol yeah I know haha

[bazzap8389]

There's been some good progress the past few days :) front end has been spot welded into place, and have trial fitted wings and bonnet etc lines up perfect! Here's some pics.

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[dgbnova#1]

Recognize that front lol looking good mate they seem to pushing on with it now

[dgbnova#1]

Have you got a new fire wall for the bulkhead or are you doing without one

[pie]

looking good baz :)

[Edd]

Nice progress, they look like they know what they're doing

Bet your a lot happier with new legs

[bazil]

Fcuk me thats good progress lol

[bazzap8389]

Have you got a new fire wall for the bulkhead or are you doing without one
Just doing away with it, I think it looks better without it :)

looking good baz :)
Thanks mate

Nice progress, they look like they know what they're doing

Bet your a lot happier with new legs
Cheers, yeah he fairly knows what he's doing, he's been restoring cars for 40 years and yeah I'm really happy I got the new legs, looks much better having a new front end and piece of mind it will last much longer too.

Fcuk me thats good progress lol
Thanks, trying to get as much as possible done before the end of the year.

[dgbnova#1]

Think you should take up nova resto management as a side line putting some to shame with the progress YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT lol

Me included ,...............

[Shamish82]

Just read this from start to finish. Amazing build, well done lad :thumb:

[bazzap8389]

Think you should take up nova resto management as a side line putting some to shame with the progress YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT lol

Me included ,...............
lol To be fair there's only been some progress the last few months really except for that it's just been sitting for 6 years lol and yeah I know lol

Just read this from start to finish. Amazing build, well done lad :thumb:
Thanks mate much appreciated. :thumb:

[Chay84]

Looking good mate

[dgbnova#1]

Ye but there are many who would give up,I did sold my long term project to make space and concertrate on work so it great to see ure not willing to just bin it as some would have done that its a credit to you

[bazzap8389]

Looking good mateThanks mate :)


Ye but there are many who would give up,I did sold my long term project to make space and concertrate on work so it great to see ure not willing to just bin it as some would have done that its a credit to you
Yeah true, I should have given up also lol I've spent a scary amount on this thing in the last year could have bought that sport from Ireland and have change lol but hey ho only live once eh! Thanks bud I appreciate that. :)

[novadave24]

that looks really good mate great work coming on really quck :)

[supernova.629]

Good work whare did you find all the panels

[nova_niek]

Have you got a new fire wall for the bulkhead or are you doing without one


Just doing away with it, I think it looks better without it :)

By omitting the firewall you will get some interesting engine smells in your car. ;)

[dc1984]

Nice progress mate:)

[bazzap8389]

that looks really good mate great work coming on really quck :)
Thanks mate :)

Good work whare did you find all the panels
Ta :) got the chassis legs from ocp and got the inner wings from a lad on here.

By omitting the firewall you will get some interesting engine smells in your car. ;)
I never thought of that lol but I've got a plan for that ;)

Nice progress mate:)
Cheers bud :thumb:

[tahir868]

Excellent work that, looking forward to seeing how this comes out!

[dc1984]

So, when do you want to build my nova then ;)

[Benn]

Are you stitching the front end on while you're doing this? I would, save having to do it again later....

Love what you've done so far.

[bazzap8389]

Excellent work that, looking forward to seeing how this comes out!
Cheers :)

So, when do you want to build my nova then ;)
Haha once this is finished can't see me doing a build to this extent again lol

Are you stitching the front end on while you're doing this? I would, save having to do it again later....

Love what you've done so far.
Thanks :thumb: yeah it will be all seam welded this week coming and a the strengthening plates etc fitted. We were thinking of doing the seam welding from underneath so you can't see them in the bay. Will this be just as effective?

[Benn]

As in in the arch?

I did both sides (in the arch and in the bay..)

Just tidy the welds up after welding.

[maddogdaz666]

We were thinking of doing the seam welding from underneath so you can't see them in the bay. Will this be just as effective?

I can't see why it wouldn't be as effective, it's what I would do if I was rebuilding a shell, to keep it as origional looking as possible. :thumb: good work, can't wait to see it progress

[bazzap8389]

As in in the arch?

I did both sides (in the arch and in the bay..)

Just tidy the welds up after welding.
Here's where i mean.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/innerwing_zps7a498e18.jpg (http://s660.photobucket.com/user/bazzap8389/media/innerwing_zps7a498e18.jpg.html)

I can't see why it wouldn't be as effective, it's what I would do if I was rebuilding a shell, to keep it as origional looking as possible. :thumb: good work, can't wait to see it progress

exactly what I'm thinking mate, trying to keep it looking good and original but with the extra strength :) cheers

[vx kev]

Some seriously good work and progress on this so far, great to see it being saved. :thumb:

[bazzap8389]

Thanks Kev :)

got it the car back on the spit yesterday and started all the seam welding, still some to be done yet but the front end is attached again.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps45b55493.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zpsd2e5d23e.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps294d4af5.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps4487c7f1.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps54d15e92.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps508990c3.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps21b762b4.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps26d4a786.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zpsa5f1c70a.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zps399209b0.jpg

[Vlietje]

Great work Bazz! My GSi needs the same done, looks very good! Keep it up!

[jonn]

good work some quick progress happening

[Damoh]

^ I'm replacing everything that I can, the only thing I'm not replacing is the chassis legs as I don't have the panels and don't know where to get them, but if you know where I can get some please share!

i have cut through the inner wings because I'm replacing them with new ones including the turrets, I'm doing my best to get rid of all the rot with he parts that I have.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zpsb565e608.jpg
Hi mate top quality work going on just wondering where you got the inner wings from

[bazzap8389]

Great work Bazz! My GSi needs the same done, looks very good! Keep it up!
Thanks :) Get yours started!

good work some quick progress happening
Cheers, getting there.

Hi mate top quality work going on just wondering where you got the inner wings from
Ta, I got them from w88rdy off here. It's worth sending him a pm because I'm sure he had another set.

[vx kev]

You going to get round the turrets welded under here aswell rather than up top Baz?

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/null_zpsa5f1c70a.jpg

[bazzap8389]

Yeah going to get it done underneath to keep it all neat and tidy :)

[Jeff16v]

Superb work. This is the way to build a project.