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are you running modded bottom arms? some top castor going on there!
Car looks rude!
yea got olly's old rosejointed bottom arms and tie bars still goter set them up yet
scott.parker
04-04-09, 09:15 PM
Thats well nice, i was thinking of doing something smilier, but metallic gray.
Scott
Satin roof looks good, looking at stuff in the background. Is that the "muffler shop" bit of machinary? (bit the bends and flakes exhaust tubing and so on)
Iirc he is a powerflow agent, did one for dougie in tv last month
Yeah i know. Hence why he has the tool.
Satin roof looks good, looking at stuff in the background. Is that the "muffler shop" bit of machinary? (bit the bends and flakes exhaust tubing and so on)
yea thats the pipe bender for the exhausts benn
djbrowney
05-04-09, 09:20 PM
looking sweet as mate :thumb:
Kev Turbo
06-04-09, 04:16 PM
love the car those stickers are so Chav though
love the car those stickers are so Chav though
lol
they look a bit out of place at the minuite but its gonner be sign written soon but goter wait till after the total vauxhall feature as they wont allow it to be shot with the stickers on there
yea thats the pipe bender for the exhausts benn
I know! lol what i'm trying to ask is it called the "muffler shop"? Or who is it made by? My old boss wants one.
I know! lol what i'm trying to ask is it called the "muffler shop"? Or who is it made by? My old boss wants one.
lol sorry mate its a huth 2806 pipe bender (from america).
Nutty Nova
07-04-09, 11:50 AM
Went down Gareths last night to collect my bonnet
and had a look around this car, brilliant work gone into this
fair play to you mate.
Thanks for the bonnet also, shes a minter.
dj_wudgey
07-04-09, 12:04 PM
it looks fooking class this not shure about ths stickers though!!
Thanks for the bonnet also, shes a minter.[/quote]
glad your happy with it mate
well i finaly had a few hours on the nova today
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova181.jpg
mounted the apexi boost controller and wired it in
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova184.jpg
me and a mate of myn started making the loms for it too
from this
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova185.jpg
to these
front loom runs side lights, dip beam, main beam, cooling fan, charge cooler pump and indicator's
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova187.jpg
rear loom runs rear lights,fuel pump's and fire extinguisher.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova191.jpg
lights are in now too
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova192.jpg
front loom is hidden away behind the wing and in the front lower cross member
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova188.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova189.jpg
the rear is run inside the sill you can see it coming out in the passenger side kick panel
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova193.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova194.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova182.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova183.jpg
al the main lives and earths from the battery,alternator and gear box are run also not much left to do till i cant fire it up :thumb:
Thats some proper progress.
Well done mate !
Thats some proper progress.
Well done mate !
cheers jon getting there now hoping to mot it next week ( if everything goes to plan) give me a week to run it before combe then
like the work on the loom mate
and the black roof
nova looks great :thumb:
like the work on the loom mate
and the black roof
nova looks great :thumb:
cheers dude
looking good mate cant wait to see this beast in the flesh, presuming your going PVS? :thumb: thats how i plan to do my engine bay loom, hidden along with everything else im hiding lol, did you get my PM a while ago about exhuast tubing/pipe?
:wisewood: Sooo cool
Got any video's of it ???
looking good mate cant wait to see this beast in the flesh, presuming your going PVS? :thumb: thats how i plan to do my engine bay loom, hidden along with everything else im hiding lol, did you get my PM a while ago about exhuast tubing/pipe?
yea ill be at pvs mate running up the strip
cant recall the pm send it again
:wisewood: Sooo cool
Got any video's of it ???
no vids yet mate will post 1 when it runs
discoinferno
11-04-09, 09:20 AM
good work, **** me i missed alot yesterday :) i left at 2ish and youd only just started. great effort
Count Vaux Alot
11-04-09, 10:04 AM
Coming along well!
It will surely be fired up today/tomorrow??
I am only 10 mins away - I will await the call!;)
not far off now mate :thumb:
Will be an animal on the track
novashed
11-04-09, 04:22 PM
awesome build! love it,
any MOT issues you reckon?
had another few hours on it today will put a up date up shortly
will where have you been hading lately
shouldnt be any issues with mot other than ( no washers or horn)lol
finaly fitted my fuel pump and filters and ran the fuel lines
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova203.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova198.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova199.jpg
mounted my lifeline2000 fire extinguisher and plumbed in the spray nossels
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova197.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova201.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova204.jpg
should be finishing the wiring tomorrow
discoinferno
12-04-09, 05:28 AM
awesome
Thats fantastic mate cracking work so far, cant wait to see it at PV:thumb:
Looks good mate, whens it coming out then.
so the beast going to be fired up today then??
Got to get vids when it does mate :thumb:
cheers for the comments guys im down at the garage now about to have another session on the nova hopefully she will run today (fingers crossed) if it does ill post vids up later
well then less time on here more on the motor lol,
awesome - I have been pimping up the S2000 matey - I need to get back into the Nova mood to get mine done! lol
I think Kris still has your brake line in his 106, so I will make him give them you ASAP!!! I also have a shed load of fittings/fixings to get them all fitted, as K said that your rear brakes are a bit different?
:thumb:
cheers mate kris said you might be coming down in a bit have you got any small copper washers handy if so any chance of bringing a few down.:thumb:
cheers mate kris said you might be coming down in a bit have you got any small copper washers handy if so any chance of bringing a few down.:thumb:
Poop! Just saw this!lol
I have a few matey - can get them tomorrow if you like!
auzzy2000
17-04-09, 10:55 PM
oh my god thats mental.love what youve done to it.cant wait to see it for real!!cheers mate
went back over to merlin motorsport again today and spent a small fortune
on these
cobra evolution pro's
and 3 inch wilans harness
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova208.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova213.jpg
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Rick Draper
19-04-09, 12:24 AM
Seats look wanger.
Seats look wanger.
:confused: lol
Think you need to bolt them in Ga!
Fire it up tomorrow??;)
scott.parker
19-04-09, 03:38 AM
Looking **** hot to me mate!
corsakid
19-04-09, 07:49 AM
seats are awesome, really really nice car
Seats look wanger.
:confused:
and wanger means????
:confused: lol
Think you need to bolt them in Ga!
Fire it up tomorrow??;)
didnt wanna bolt them in till everething inside is finished
ill only get them oily and dirty :thumb:
looking very sweet, my dream nova tbh. canny wait for running vids.......
Rick Draper
19-04-09, 01:19 PM
:confused:
and wanger means????
Nice.
Nice.
cheers lol just wasnt sure wot you meant
discoinferno
19-04-09, 08:53 PM
as said looks fantastic
cheers dude
wheres the pics of yours then?
chrisnovaturbo
19-04-09, 09:13 PM
when do you think it will be running mate? looking forward to hearing this
discoinferno
19-04-09, 09:17 PM
i think tomorrow!
when do you think it will be running mate? looking forward to hearing this
i changed my mind with the wiring set up so im waiting for a few bits to arrive to finish the wiring but the day they turn up it will run so hopfully tomorrow or tuesday cant wait now:)
discoinferno
19-04-09, 09:46 PM
cheers dude
wheres the pics of yours then?
waiting for will to get his finger out of his ass and download them off his mobile
found a way of closing the bonnnet over the charge cooler
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova227.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova226.jpg
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The Simps
21-04-09, 10:58 PM
extreme but I like it!
yea i know:)
i was goner space the back end but it would be about 3 inches higher
Daz9124
21-04-09, 11:05 PM
cheers lol just wasnt sure wot you meant
Wanger means nudger, cock up north Rick!
sulphur
21-04-09, 11:06 PM
Wow, that's immense. Certainly gonna attract some attention. Great build:thumb:
Daz9124
21-04-09, 11:07 PM
Looks superb that G8WCC
One hell of a Nova this
Must be me... but sorry I think that looks :cry:
cheers for the good comments guys
game 1 im undecided myself but i cant think of any other way of doing it spacing the bonnet is out of the question and there is no room in the bay to move the cc as simps said it is extreme but its the only way i could think of doing it.
sulphur
21-04-09, 11:19 PM
Could you fabricate a 'bulge' in the bonnet, like the rasied centre section on mustangs for example? Just an idea, might look cool. :)
just in a bit of a rush to get it done for combe on sat but worth looking into next week
stupot89
22-04-09, 12:39 AM
this is one mental nova mate keep up the good work
scott.parker
22-04-09, 12:41 AM
A bit strange looking, but 100% functional, what more could you want?
Actually, you looked into seeing if a Monterey bonnet scoop (or similar) will fit over it, thats a double whammy for function and looks! :thumb:
Scott
Rick Draper
22-04-09, 03:07 AM
Wanger means nudger, cock up north Rick!
****ing wanger
LEWI007
22-04-09, 08:13 AM
What a belter.
It will be running tonight surely!?
I will be over after work!
It will be running tonight surely!?
I will be over after work!
could of had it running last night just waiting for my oil return to be welded should have it any minuite:D
awsome stuff mate, cant wait to see it, ill be down at combe on the weekend so ill pop over for a chat if i see you
L33 LEG
22-04-09, 10:45 AM
could you not fit a vent (dare i say it a scooby vent) on instead of that hole? and maybe raise it a little bit to help aswell.
this is one hell of a nova by the way!
could you not fit a vent (dare i say it a scooby vent) on instead of that hole? and maybe raise it a little bit to help aswell.
this is one hell of a nova by the way!
that is what i will do eventualy (some sort of vent or bulge)
scott.parker
22-04-09, 10:56 AM
could you not fit a vent (dare i say it a scooby vent) on instead of that hole? and maybe raise it a little bit to help aswell.
Thought i said that already! :roll: lol
A bit strange looking, but 100% functional, what more could you want?
Actually, you looked into seeing if a Monterey bonnet scoop (or similar) will fit over it, thats a double whammy for function and looks! :thumb:
Scott
L33 LEG
22-04-09, 11:03 AM
sorry didnt see that lol
So are you taking it to combe?
discoinferno
22-04-09, 09:43 PM
IT RUNS!!!!!!!! i will let gareth do a full update later, but the hard work is over it fired up first time
WAAAHHEEEEEYYYY! VIDS? PICS? GAYNESS? happy days, well done fellas!
funk that/\
does it run?
If it runs it will drive to combe...
It does indeed run - I have just got home!
There is a slight issue with the oil cooler and it needs ally welding, but to be honest its runs great! Fired up first time, once the fuel got the length of the car!lol
I am guessing Ga will be there for a bit yet!
yea it runs finaly still got a bit of wiring for the dash to do and tidy up the engine loom but nice to see it running in the nova. i didnt get any vids it was only running for 30 secs or so but will get some tomorrow :D
slight issue with the oil cooler but easy fix tomorrow
benn it will be at combe hopefully providing all goes well tomorrow and friday
nice will pop down to moz and have a look need my gear linkage modded :)
chrisnovaturbo
23-04-09, 09:07 PM
any vids today mate?
any vids today mate?
not yet dude its 1.41am and im still down here working on it :cry:
its getting there goter make it to combe on satlol
Quite a late one then! lol
Give me a shout if you still need that pinch bolt.... I will drive the corsa over and you can take it off! ;)
discoinferno
25-04-09, 06:31 AM
Another all nighter again, i ve been awake for over 24hrs will be over 40 by the time i get to bed tonight :(
your a bad man gareth, see you at 8am for pick up and a day at combe :) lets hope the alt belt stays on unlike the first road trip
it IS VERY VERY FAST!
well its on the road finaly
took it to combe yesterday had a few small problems eating alt belt, tyres to big, small leak from oil filter housing and throttle cable pulled through the bulk head but apart from that it goes like fcuk cant wait to get back out in it and put some miles on it will get some vids of it on the road tomorrow and post them up
Glad to hear its come together at last.
Are you on 16" 888's if so you will have problems as 15's only just fit :(
Looking forward to seeing those videos :)
Glad to hear its come together at last.
Are you on 16" 888's if so you will have problems as 15's only just fit :(
Looking forward to seeing those videos :)
yes jon im on 888's too big
stuck with 16's due to the front brakes goner get some goodyear f1 195 40 16/s on it
djbrowney
26-04-09, 05:06 PM
yes jon im on 888's too big
stuck with 16's due to the front brakes goner get some goodyear f1 195 40 16/s on it
imo mate goodyear eagle f1's are not good on a track car this is what happened to me lol
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/djbrowney/mallorypark9.jpg
Browney ffs, that corsa had self adjusting geometry so not really fait to slate those tires that much ! although no road tire lasts long on a track.
Gareth is it ? may as well use your name lol It might be worth looking into the Kumho tires, they do some semi slicks that everyone in Germany was harping on about.
I went out in this BMW that was running them doing 7 min laps of the ring so I would say their capable IF they do a 40 profile, you may find they don't have the bulgy (sp) sidewalls that 888's suffer from so its worth investigating
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/PF%20Ring%20Trip%202008/IMG_3147.jpg
cheers jon full of advice as usualllol :thumb:
ill ring a few suppliers and see what's available in a 40 profile i could probably get away with a 45 ill have to check and see. might go down the slicks route but havnt got a clue what size to look for :confused:
LOL @ advice, here to help and all that :)
I don't know anyone who has used the Kumhos yet so I don't know about fitment and side walls, I spoke to a Kumho agent at Goodwood last year who sent me some info but christ knows where I put that ! I guess you need to see one to know what the sidewalls are like too as that IS the main problem with 888's on novas :(
Can't give you any advice on slicks, possibly best to PM Olly Hewitt as he had a set that fitted but only 15's, I've never been able to work out the sizes on slicks and strangely anyone who I have spoken to that sells them can't either LOL
I'll text a a mate now that runs a Fiesta ST race car as iirc they run 16" slicks so he might have more of an idea than I would, I do remember him saying they weren't cheap though :(
cheers jon any info off your mate will be helpfull
forgot to mention i brought a 1975 mk2 escort on friday cheap as funk £400 with a cage being delivered monday evening will send you a few pics when it shows up
No problem, just awaiting his reply although I think its race day so he might not reply today.
Good move on the Mk2, is it a keeper or a seller ? what sort of thing have you got in mind for it ?
I need a job ASAP so I can get back on with mine, running the S2 costs a fortune which I'll admit doesn't help towards getting the project car done grrr
not sure on the condition havnt looked at it yet it was owned by a fella who brought it 8 years ago he used it for 2 years and it failed mot on rotton inner arches hes a welder so replaced them but never mot'd it since its been garaged since but split up with his wife a few months ago and she wants it gone ill let you know what its like . not sure wot to do with it just brought it because it was cheap for what it is
It is VERY cheap, sold my last rotten pear for a grand on ebay and that looked very rotten !
I'm swinging towards sticking with a xe for mine now, slightly undecided but generally a well setup and correctly geared NA car will paste a turbo one as I've recently experienced I don't really know what to do... not a lot without any money LOL
Just had a text, ST's run 15" wheels, he has some 16" slicks so just asked him how much they are and what sizes
The Simps
26-04-09, 06:46 PM
The Yoko A048r's have a slightly more upright and less bulgy sidewall but again only come in 195/50 16s.
In reference to the Kumho semi-slicks the sizes are here:- http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/Motorsports/ecstav70a.html and their site:- http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/Motorsports/KH_brochure01.html
They do a 205/45 16 which you would think is too wide but the overall width is 201 and tread width 190. Whereas the 195/50 16 888s are 203 overall width (http://www.toyo.co.uk/productdetail.php?identity=products&product_id=18)
But being 45 you might get a better side wall.
Need some high res pics please :D
The Yoko A048r's have a slightly more upright and less bulgy sidewall but again only come in 195/50 16s.
In reference to the Kumho semi-slicks the sizes are here:- http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/Motorsports/ecstav70a.html and their site:- http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/Motorsports/KH_brochure01.html
They do a 205/45 16 which you would think is too wide but the overall width is 201 and tread width 190. Whereas the 195/50 16 888s are 203 overall width (http://www.toyo.co.uk/productdetail.php?identity=products&product_id=18)
But being 45 you might get a better side wall.
Good info there Simps, shame Kumho couldn't supply me with that as it would of answered ALL my questions on the day... durr lol
The Simps
26-04-09, 06:54 PM
Just some quick web prices:-
£108 - http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b102s690p0
£124.26 - http://www.srbpower.com/kumho/ecsta-v70a.php
£108.05 (excl VAT) - http://www.demon-tweeks.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=KUM1756013V70H
The Simps
26-04-09, 06:55 PM
I'll let Graeme buy some 1st and see what they're like as I need at least a couple more tyres for the coupe (already got 2 a048r's) although got more clearance on mine.
cheers simps the 205 45 16 might do the job the 888's rubbed the inner arch that much in 1 lap that it burnt the paint off inside the car and left rubber right round the iner arch will post pics up tomorrow of the damage
wish i could run 15's but it would mean losing the front brakes and they worked very well yesterday
The Simps
26-04-09, 07:05 PM
The inner arches are a pain! Thats why I've put the tubs in mine so I havn't got the hassle!
good move are there pics of them in your wip
The Simps
26-04-09, 07:13 PM
yes mate, save spamming your thread! Chassis gets cut out to non-existant towards the back but easy enough to brace up.
The Simps
26-04-09, 07:14 PM
Save you going through the whole lot - http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89638&page=55
thats amazing work on them arches mate, wish i had done it now after yesterday
Fantastic car, had a best i could look. Was gonna say hello but there where two people by the car so wasnt sure who was who..
Fantastic car, had a best i could look. Was gonna say hello but there where two people by the car so wasnt sure who was who..
i was the fat 1 with long hair matelol
should of came and said hello always nice to put a face to the name
lol Ah, didnt know that tho.
Best i have tho.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Combe%20April%2009/g8wcc.jpg
thats the bottom half of me on the right dude was a bit tired as i didnt finish the car till 5.30 am sat morn just enough time to have a bath and go straight back down to load the car and get to combe
here's a few pics i was just sent from yesterday
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/castlecombe25409021.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/castlecombe25409036.jpg
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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/castlecombe25409053.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/castlecombe25409068.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/castlecombe25409065.jpg
discoinferno
26-04-09, 10:38 PM
looking good ga was a good testing day even though didnt get much testing done a lot was learnt and the car will improve a lot once a few more testing miles are covered suspension setup etc
awesome car!
cheers dude sorry to scare you didnt mean to do 360's literaly through the chicane
brill, its great to see it running and driving, its like the end of the tunnel. any vids yet? i'll bet it screams like a whore....
The Simps
26-04-09, 10:53 PM
what spring rates are you running front and rear?
cant remember on rear spring rates but 350's on the front. whys that dude?
corsakid
26-04-09, 11:01 PM
well will all be out for the next track day ga mine yours garys and wills well have agood day and hopefully we can fine tune yours and you can have more testing time!
The Simps
26-04-09, 11:35 PM
cant remember on rear spring rates but 350's on the front. whys that dude?
I was having a chat with the guys at Gaz ref spring rates and when running semi slicks they recommended a much higher spring rate as with the added grip and heat build up you need it. Also, in one of your pics above I noticed the back end was squatting under power which obviously wouldn't help your inner arch problem.
corsakid
27-04-09, 08:00 AM
it wasnt squatting that much just how the ride height was set up or wasnt lol ha ha, it doesnt help having the 888's on speedlines as it has caused all sorts of clearance problems! he can go any smaller with the wheels as the fronts brakes just fit under 16's so smaller profiles are on the cards!
I am still tired now!
Roll on 1.2 barrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:D
0.6 is for old women with shingles.
it was a fair bit lower on the rear to start off with mate did stiffen the rear coilovers so it wasnt rubbing under acceleration only on cornering had to lift the front right up because they were fouling the arches also. ill check the poundage of the rears did they recomend a rating for the springs?
Just found a little of your spin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC49SrqaUu8
shed-on-wheels
27-04-09, 03:33 PM
very nice build fella
The Simps
27-04-09, 03:38 PM
it was a fair bit lower on the rear to start off with mate did stiffen the rear coilovers so it wasnt rubbing under acceleration only on cornering had to lift the front right up because they were fouling the arches also. ill check the poundage of the rears did they recomend a rating for the springs?
PM sent.
:thumb:
PM sent.
:thumb:
cheers mate pm replied
vids coming soon kristian has them on his phone goner post them asap
Car Porn FTW
Cant wait for video's :thumb:
trackdaynova
27-04-09, 09:10 PM
Hi Gareth,
I've not forgot about your measurements that you're after. Glad to hear you made Combe, and don't worry about the teething issues, they're what make a good car lol
Just for reference, I ran 350lb front spring poundage, and 450lb rear spring poundage, and in my opinion that made my car handle the way it did :thumb:
Take care
Olly
Hi Gareth,
I've not forgot about your measurements that you're after. Glad to hear you made Combe, and don't worry about the teething issues, they're what make a good car lol
Just for reference, I ran 350lb front spring poundage, and 450lb rear spring poundage, and in my opinion that made my car handle the way it did :thumb:
Take care
Olly
thanks ol
so you think its worth uping the rears to 450's then?
also did you run 16" slicks or 15"
cheers mate
Count Vaux Alot
27-04-09, 09:32 PM
15" slicks :thumb:
trackdaynova
27-04-09, 10:20 PM
Yeah for the cost of the rear springs, I paid something like £13 each from Faulkners, for 4" ones... but I wasn't on rear coilovers.
I would advise you to go for 450s yes, simply because your car is primarily a track car (one would assume?) and wouldn't be driven a great deal on the road... daily...
That said - even on the f350s and r450s, road driving wasn't that bad at all! :D
The Simps
27-04-09, 10:27 PM
I think 450s might be too much on semi-slicks.
I think Gaz actually worked out cheaper for springs than Faulkner too.
trackdaynova
27-04-09, 10:30 PM
Depends on length, and how custom you want them Si, I suppose...
I mean, Gaz wouldn't entertain the conversation when I said I wanted them 4" open length, 2.5" ID.
What you mean regarding too much on semi slicks? I ran them on 888s and my full Michelin slicks?
The Simps
27-04-09, 10:33 PM
I suppose it also comes down to how you want the car to behave aswell.
i was running 250 rears with the 888's on 28 psi but found it a bit light on the back
i know i need to alter the ride height should have new tyres by the weekend so can play about with it, and going back on combe on the 18th of next month so ill try again
should be quieter aswell as its a track day on a monday.
Olly ran his springs inbound which means that the spring rate he ran would work out different at the wheels than the same rate spring on a coilover (over the wheel). The inbound spring has to cope with the extra leverage and therefore needs to be of a higher poundage.
It all really depends on how you want your car to handle and that is a very personal thing. I suggest you read up on how spring rates and tyre pressures effect your cars handling (remembering cold and hot pressures are different). Then play with it on the day to get it handling how YOU want.
I always like to see pictures of the car under hard cornering. It gives you a good idea of how much the car is leaning and if your lifting wheels etc.
It's always easier to drive a car that understeers, so it's a good idea to start off with an understeering car and dial it out to the point where your happy that your getting around the corner as fast as possible with as much confidence as possible.
A car that oversteers all the time is NOT a fast car. It may look good but it's not fast. Being able to induce a bit of oversteer at will to help you though the corner is good but takes time to get right and also get used to.
I hope this helps:thumb:
The Simps
27-04-09, 11:06 PM
It all really depends on how you want your car to handle and that is a very personal thing. I suggest you read up on how spring rates and tyre pressures effect your cars handling (remembering cold and hot pressures are different). Then play with it on the day to get it handling how YOU want.
Can you recommend anything on the net? Everyday should be a learning day!
The Simps
27-04-09, 11:07 PM
i was running 250 rears with the 888's on 28 psi but found it a bit light on the back
i know i need to alter the ride height should have new tyres by the weekend so can play about with it, and going back on combe on the 18th of next month so ill try again
should be quieter aswell as its a track day on a monday.
You ordered the 205/45 kumho's?
trackdaynova
27-04-09, 11:08 PM
Gareth, running 28psi from cold, is very high (imo) due to after a lap or two it could easily have raised 6-10psi ish...
I always ran 14psi at the rear of my car due to having no weight in the back, but just enough to get plenty of heat into the tread to keep the rear end planted.
That said, on sprints I'd alter them slightly, due to the fact you run them from cold and you only get one shot :thumb:
Can you recommend anything on the net? Everyday should be a learning day!
Toyo had a nice tyre setup page, but it's dissapeared.
This is a good page if you want to understand toe, camber & caster settings (http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html)
This may be intresting, but I have not read it yet (http://www.smithees-racetech.com.au/theory/summary.html)
I think Dar has hit the nail on the head really, you have to just try various setups and see what you feel is right, working from under steer into a nicely balanced car is a good way of doing it (good advice Dar)
I personally (and don't take it the wrong way Olly) think that rear setup was far from ideal, sideways isn't fast or lets say as fast as it could be as I can't deny it was a fast trackcar but its takes professionals a long time to know whats right and whats not, our usual conclusion with our cars setup is "yeh seems ok, lets have it" when actually a bit more thought and more importantly knowledge would help us all a lot.
Pro race drivers aren't just good drivers they also know exactly what needs changing to get the most out of a car yet it even takes them a fair while to get right and lets be honest they have slightly better backup and services than we do lol
Just out of curiousity I've emailed another guy who races those St Fiestas as I'm sure like myself you would be interested in knowing what poundage springs they run even if they are on Proflex or similar, I once read an article on a Mk3 Escort German Touring car and that ran 450 fronts and 650 rears ! Sadly there wasn't anymore info on the suspension so I couldn't clarify if it was a typo or if not what their reasons were for running such stiff springs.
Not had a price back on those slicks yet Graham but got to go up there this week anyway for some engine goodies so I'll bother him about it then if he hasn't spoken to me
28 psi your brave.
I had 20psi on the front and 18 at the rear on my drys.
corsakid
28-04-09, 07:49 AM
well for all those who want to see hear the nova running me and ga made some actual videos yesterday they are not the best quality and were done use my old sony ericsson! and i was trying to watch where we were going as well as trying to film i didnt know weather to laugh or cry Fcuk me its fast!
the most supprising thing is there is no lag! well supprisingly little for a turbo of this size! and compareD to the van it was in previously! but is only runing 0.4 bar or 6psi so it is massively detuned from the potential 1.8-2 bar it will eventually be running!
start up and a little run up the road before the throttle cable snapped lol and thats why we costed through the vid at the end!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_MOV00624.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view¤t=MOV00624.flv)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_MOV00625.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view¤t=MOV00625.flv)
the aircraft like noise you here is not a jet flying over head,but the tyres fouling on the rear arch this will be sorted soon enough but you get the general idea
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/th_MOV00626.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/?action=view¤t=MOV00626.flv)
The Simps
28-04-09, 08:49 AM
Gaz run there E30 on 888s with 650 front & 325 rear.
Whether its a competitive car or not is another question!
dar
thanks for the advice will take it on board and try and set it up some where near an the 18th. will check the links out when i get home as my computer down here is slow as hell.
simps
havnt ordered them yet will be doing it today
olly
didnt realise the tyre pressures were supposed to be that low :tard: lol
kris
thanks for uploading the vids shame the road was a bit wet will get some better ones with a descent camera in the dry
wow what a car awsome build
Simps, thats also a rwd car so changes things slightly.
Gareth, its not that they need to be that low, they just don't want to be above 28 when hot ideally although they will go off very quickly
Some good gen being banded about here.
Real shame that after all your effort getting it ready for Combe you only got a couple of laps in. I hope you get the problems ironed out quickly and easily and can get on with fine tuning the car and enjoy it.
Stunning car but sorry to say, you need a new camera man lol
managed to snap the longer drive shaft clean in half today anyone know of some good shafts to fit not sure weather or not to go for equal length as the ones i just used lasted 60 miles:mad:
What shafts were you using?
managed to snap the longer drive shaft clean in half today anyone know of some good shafts to fit not sure weather or not to go for equal length as the ones i just used lasted 60 miles:mad:
Equal length ftw :thumb: can't believe you've not fitted them to be honest :eek: Chris Astley :thumb:
Equal length ftw :thumb: can't believe you've not fitted them to be honest :eek: Chris Astley :thumb:
Does he have them in stock now? I got fed up asking when they would be back in stock!
not sure who made them they were 40mm diamater hollow shafts
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/birchy_2007/projectnova117.jpg
trackdaynova
28-04-09, 09:28 PM
Gareth, its not that they need to be that lowWell in my 16 trackdays in 10 months, I tried them at various cold temperatures and 14psi was optimum, so imo 14psi for the rear is right.
not sure who made them they were 40mm diamater hollow shafts
Just that bit would put me off lol
Edit: I'd be inclined to get equal lenght shafts, nice and strong and distribute the power better
i was told to use hollow as the solid ones twist but suppose id rather it twist than snap all together and leave me stranded
Just another learning curve eh? Maybe it was a faulty shaft? Still i dont personally like the sound of a hollow shaft and as youve just show, 60 miles and its failed. Still haven't decided on shafts for mine yet.
I bought mine a while back and got them within a few days from Chris :thumb: best to give him a call tbh. With the power your running/going to be running - 1.8/2bar = a must :thumb:
Looks impressive in the vid clips btw. You going pv show - running the car up the strip :D
trackdaynova
28-04-09, 09:34 PM
Not that I was running even half the power you are, but I was on standard 1.2 Nova shafts which were fine... OK, so the CV joints were the weak link in my drivetrain, and used to pop quite regulary due to how low I was running, and the amount of castor.
I'd opt for solid shafts personally :thumb: Pug 106's come standard with hollow shafts, for some odd reason...
Weight saving FTW, don't let The Count hear about them! lol
My mate was running 260-270BHP through corsa gsi shafts on his corsa let, only every killed CV's, any thick solid conversion shaft should do really but equal length are the better option imo
ill make some calls tomorrow surely ill be able to get a trouble free outing in it soonlol
game i will be at pvs hopefully with png its only running 6 psi in the vids cant wait to wind it up (even more stuff will break then)
Does he have them in stock now? I got fed up asking when they would be back in stock!
Ive been trying to get some for over 3 months, every time i phone (and thats been a few tmes) i get told its going to be another 2 weeks
Gave up in the end :(
Just found the Toyo Motorsport tyre setup information
Cold inflation temps
For cars 800kg or below
4 laps or more
17 - 22 psi
Hot inflation temps (Check them as soon as you get in from a run)
<800kg 22 - 29 psi
Fine tuning (balance)
Reduce oversteer = reduce rear axle hot inflation pressure
Increase oversteer = increase rear axle hot inflation pressure
Reduce understeer = reduce front axle hot inflation pressure
Increase understeer = increase front axle hot inflation pressure
Please note that this is for fine tuning handing bias. If you want to improve overall grip levels you should be looking at your suspension setup.
Ive been trying to get some for over 3 months, every time i phone (and thats been a few tmes) i get told its going to be another 2 weeks
Gave up in the end :(
Yup that's exactly what happened with me.
corsakid
28-04-09, 09:53 PM
[quote=Dar]Just found the Toyo Motorsport tyre setup information
Cold inflation temps
For cars 800kg or below
4 laps or more
17 - 22 psi
Hot inflation temps (Check them as soon as you get in from a run)
<800kg 22 - 29 psi
Fine tuning (balance)
Reduce oversteer = reduce rear axle hot inflation pressure
Increase oversteer = increase rear axle hot inflation pressure
Reduce understeer = reduce front axle hot inflation pressure
Increase understeer = increase front axle hot inflation pressure
Please note that this is for fine tuning handing bias. If you want to improve overall grip levels you should be looking at your suspension setup.
good info there dar :thumb:
discoinferno
28-04-09, 10:01 PM
im must be your unlucky charm, everytime i go in the car it either spins, or breaks something, or something leaks, im sure we will sort it soon
i just watched the vids, aural sex...... well done lads car of pvs09?
cheers for the info dar :thumb:
Well in my 16 trackdays in 10 months, I tried them at various cold temperatures and 14psi was optimum, so imo 14psi for the rear is right.
What was the warm temperature ? personally I'd say the way the rear of your car slid about that they weren't optimum to everyones standards, it just suited your driving style with getting the tail out and being able to control it so well with that diff.
just spoke to chris astley, hes having the equal length shafts made 2 week waiting time
scott.parker
29-04-09, 11:21 AM
Humm... I'm sure some one told me that the hollow shafts were better as they twist/flex under pressure/power, where as the solids are more likely to just SNAP as they can't twist etc, but yeah i would go with the equal solids my self, although I'm running big solid conversion one's in my xe for now.
Scott
love the car there mate excellent work,i see in your video your digi dash did you get that from deemontweeks,as been looking at them for a while now,what are they like as in two minds to get one or not,my main concern is the fuel gauge as im still runing the old setup
got the dash from etb instruments their the main supplier for them
the dash itself is excelent well happy with it. it comes with a fuel sender which would be easy enough to fit in your fuel tank
got the dash from etb instruments their the main supplier for them
the dash itself is excelent well happy with it. it comes with a fuel sender which would be easy enough to fit in your fuel tank
thanks for that mate gonna order mine soon,might,gonna get it from the same palce you got yours from,gotta say your car sounds awsome:thumb:
Sounds nice in the vids, goes fooking well too by the looks of it!
Slik Gambino
29-04-09, 06:44 PM
very nice shell
well i decided to go for the motor sport shafts from lmf vauxhall (will get a equal length shaft when they eventully come back in stock at ca motor sport )
they arrived friday so fitted them along with a new cambelt kit and water pump.
also fitted some new toyo proxes in a 195/40/16 (for now) fancy tubing the rear arches over next winter, to run semi slicks toying with the idea of wide tracking it also but thats a long way off wanna get some use out of it this summer will come back off the road over the winter.
corsakid
03-05-09, 11:34 PM
:cool:
chrisnovaturbo
04-05-09, 06:45 PM
how much did you pay for the shafts mate? ive got some brand new ones from lmf that came with one of my novas. could of had them off me.
paid £110 delivered still after a equal length shaft if anyone has one for sale:thumb:
put them in the for sale section someone will have them
gaznovalet
15-05-09, 01:43 PM
awesome nova from head to toe, outstanding mate, hall of fame nova for sure best one ive ever seen!!!!!!
cheers mate
anyone else off here going to combe on monday?
wow , just gone through every page of the build , awesome machine mate .
cheers mate
anyone else off here going to combe on monday?
I cant get that day off - I am gutted.
Kris is pimping the Combo though, so there will be a mobile tool shede available!lol
took the nova to castle combe today managed to get a good 40 laps in before it rained hard.
well happy with the car now i used toyo proxes and ran them at 18 psi made a massive improvement started to get quicker and quicker then the rain set in but was still great fun, hit 140mph up the start finish straight before braking hard for quarry lol
will put some vids up later
gaznovalet
18-05-09, 08:49 PM
nice!!!!! look forward to see the vids mate. . .
40laps? Nice!
140mph? Thats nice!
corsakid
18-05-09, 09:07 PM
yeah think its was 141-142mph going up avon rise i was the passenger, this car is SERIOUSLY fast round a track it handles awesome as well! brakes are phenomenal, but as the sessions went on gareth got faster and faster as he got used to the car and the speed etc, it was a shame it started to rain because he was putting together some proper fast laps consecatively!
awesome day awesome car!
calibra-keith
19-05-09, 01:14 AM
cant wait to see video's of this on track :thumb:
took the nova for mapping today went fairly well it was very hot and the fan he was using wasnt quite up to the job (in my opinion). the ambient air temp in the dyno room peaked at 1 oclock to 34.5 degreeshttp://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif not good for mapping at that point the charge temps hit 56 degrees ( not ideal ) . it went well untill we tried running over 1.25 bar of boost. no matter wot we did it would not boost over 1.25, we did at 1 point swap the vac pipes on the wastegate and it boosted to 2 bar and climbing over but it wasnt being controlled.
in the end we left it at 1.25 has anyone got any ideas as to what could make this happen? well happy with it, it did 125 very hard miles on the rollers and came away without a problem http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif and it goes like f**k. didnt get a power figure as the rollers dont register after 350 bhp at the fly but we hit that at 4800 rpm it revs to 7200 and climbs very fast so should be over 400 now (hopefully). tried to get it into powerstation for a power run but didnt leave mech motorsport till gone 6 so was to late, any advice on the boost problem appreciated.
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k400/welshcoastcustoms_2008/kriscamera013.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k400/welshcoastcustoms_2008/kriscamera014.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k400/welshcoastcustoms_2008/kriscamera015.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k400/welshcoastcustoms_2008/kriscamera017.jpg
discoinferno
02-06-09, 11:10 PM
was a brilliant day today , loved it :D roll on 12thwhen mine is done
now get making the exhaust :)
djbrowney
02-06-09, 11:12 PM
****ing cracking result mate, infact awsome car all round !!!
matthew172
02-06-09, 11:12 PM
that thing looks unreal !
What no video? lol
Looks sweet mate very nice :thumb:
did get vids but didnt relise my camera has no sound so no point in posting them up
cheers for the good comments guys
possible stuck wastegate? i.e partially open?
djbrowney
02-06-09, 11:33 PM
possible stuck wastegate? i.e partially open?
i wouldnt have said so if he swapped his the vacume pipes around and it made 2 bar but did have any boost control iirc :thumb:
fair do's. just a thought.
Love this car, Very kool.
Rep coming your way.
Joe Richardson
03-06-09, 07:13 AM
Mental:eek:
biigdredtop
03-06-09, 10:35 AM
what size rad do u put in these coversion coz i got a 2.0 redtop n just cant cool it down.
dj_wudgey
03-06-09, 11:01 AM
looks f*cking mental mate!!
INSANE :eek::eek::eek::eek:. Awesome car there.
Just had a quick skim over the article in the new TV mag - looks good, but its changed since they did the shoot..
that is 1 serious toy there mate, a well thought up motor
will have to go get the new TV tomorrow along with the new edition of s****.:roll:
you going to be at PV? sorry if this has been asked already:tard:
Just had a quick skim over the article in the new TV mag - looks good, but its changed since they did the shoot..
that's pauls which was featured this month in tv
think myn had a pic of it at combe in there though
yea its got a half shot of you on track at combe
corsa1986
06-06-09, 11:55 AM
Hi nice nova, what kind of exhaust you drive? 2.5 inch oder 3 inch?
just got back from pv you car looked awsome and was well quick. and was cool to see the two yellow novas battleing it out
vids or it didnt happen.:)
corsakid
07-06-09, 01:38 PM
it ran a 12.4 @ 122mph a very respectable time considering it was gareths first time on the quarter in the car
with a bit more boost higher up and some practive it should see low 12's maybe even an 11 if he stops eating the big tasty from Maccy d's :P
well done mate top effort
wot a weekend!!!!!!!!!
f**k the rain, well happy with the car its still detuned and capable of alot more but now ive got a starting point to progress from :)
got 2 months till totb so ill get my new turbo on set the suspension up and have a practice at shakespear county raceway good to meet some people off png will hopefully meet more at billing if the weather's better:thumb:
djbrowney
07-06-09, 05:22 PM
saw the car run yesterday mate, cracking car you have built an very good times :thumb:
you deserve a pat on the back fella :thumb:
cheers mate, its still working progress but are'nt they all lol
was good fun racing paul on the 1/4 mile yesterday i havnt got any pics but im sure some 1 will. looked cool as, the 2 of them side by side on the line:thumb:
lee-loon
07-06-09, 05:28 PM
can remember the astra in tv,well done on the nova build pal
djbrowney
07-06-09, 05:34 PM
cheers mate, its still working progress but are'nt they all lol
was good fun racing paul on the 1/4 mile yesterday i havnt got any pics but im sure some 1 will. looked cool as, the 2 of them side by side on the line:thumb:
yes mate both cracking cars, i was speaking you at some point when talking with pauls about tie bars when you recomened jongirl iirc lol
hopefully see you both a totb :thumb:
yes mate both cracking cars, i was speaking you at some point when talking with pauls about tie bars when you recomened jongirl iirc lol
hopefully see you both a totb :thumb:
no offence but i spoke to so many people yesterday lol you should of said who you were i would be able to put a face to the name then, not to worry im sure ill see you at totb or billing.:thumb:
just got back from Pv also and would like to say Top car :thumb:
the 3rd fastest rwyb i seen being the tigra, mini then u.
yea i was speaking to you also about the nova but there was about 40 people stood round it lol
Saw it run mate, looked awesome, had all the chav's spunking in their pants when you took off lol top work pal
Saw it run mate, looked awesome, I was spunking in my pants when you took off lol top work pal
edited for ya lol
saw this to looked a right little rocket!
edited for ya lol
lol :roll:
looked good today this did mate, quick too! i heard somthing happened on to it on the track and then i saw you fixing it, what happened?
corsakid
07-06-09, 07:56 PM
g8wcc didnt run to day we left early due to the ****e weather in the morning! maybe you are confusing it with pauls nova again anohter very fast yellow turbo nova,
ahhh ok they my bad, i saw it on a trailer i think this one?
yea this would have been on the trailer
Was on a trailer ready to leave I think about 11-12ish today, I caught Gareth for a quick word, car is even more stunning in the flesh
corsakid
07-06-09, 08:14 PM
yeah we were all leaving this morning strapping it down ready to leave about 11ish couldnt be ****ed with the rain! it is a stunning car
Looked awesome this weekend mate, didnt get a chance to come and say hello, but ill see you next month anyway :)
DAFTJOHN
07-06-09, 09:00 PM
Nice build bud - seen it on the strip at PVS, went really well.
thanks for the good comments guys glad you all liked it cant wait for billing nowlol
yea hopefully ill make it along didnt really get a propper look at this cause of the crowds it was attracting
I got a half decent look around it in amongst a crowd, and it's well worth the wait :) Engine bay is awesome, I spent a while just tracking the intake/exhaust routes through all the fancy pipework/airboxes :D
i only took the bonnet off for about 15 mins as it was filthy from the drive up (even though it was covered on a trailer) there was a swarm of people around it i struggled to get the bonnet back on in time for the qualifying for totb lol
yea i seen that there must have been about 50 + people just staring in amaze ment and chatting to each other.
CoolTiger
07-06-09, 10:49 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/CoolTiger1992/pv09/P6060900.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/CoolTiger1992/pv09/P6060913.jpg
nice meeting you gareth, top motor youve built indeed, shame its such a crap colour lol
nice meeting you to mate glad you like the car yours is a hell of a tool too
cant believe how 2 cars built on the different side's of the country can be so similar in so many ways.lol
cheers for he pics cool tiger DAMN it squats under acceleration need to lift the rear right up before totb.
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