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Thread: 985cc Turbocharged Nova Sprint Car

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    Umm still like ford Olympic blue!

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    Have you thought of just using a basic grey undercoat and then getting it vinyl wrapped, this is what they do at work on the castrol cars and apparently (from the vinyl guy and the engineers) it saves around 4kg in weight for the car, and in wrc terms, that's a lot! using fancy paints (yellow, blue, red and white) can be quite heavy due to the pigments they have and if you add it up for the whole car it makes a big difference. Plus if you get bored of the colour its cheap and easy to change!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16v Nova Kev View Post
    are you for real? 2k is 2 coats=done.
    water base is 4to5 coats of colour then 2 coats of clear (2k)laquer.

    not to mention the drying time

    Id slightly disagree their fella........... Many 2k solid colours will not have achieved full opacity after just two coats even if a tintable primer has been used. I would hit it with three or even a forth in some cases just to be sure.

    On the water base side of things.... Every manufacturer differs but as a rule 2.5-3 coats will see you confidently cover the majority of colours. As for drying times it will never be as quick as solvent basecoats but 5-10 mins (For large hits) with the booth heat up a little and your ready for the next coat with ease. High build clears are a lot harder wearing and will not tarnish like 2k solids either.


    If your not using waterbase you may as well get used to it sooner rather than later as it is the future. Solvent and 2k paints will soon become unavailable due to the high voc levels. I dont know about near you but Its already hard to come by in my area.


    Colin........ What happened to the idea you mentioned to me sometime ago?

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    Maybe 4 coats but there very thin coats and using a heated booth or a hair dryer blowing hot air over it it dries in minutes! whereas 2k goes on thicker! You may have seen different but mine was a very quick process! End of day up to Colin was just pointing a fact out as I prefer water base!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boffer8 View Post
    Have you thought of just using a basic grey undercoat and then getting it vinyl wrapped, this is what they do at work on the castrol cars and apparently (from the vinyl guy and the engineers) it saves around 4kg in weight for the car, and in wrc terms, that's a lot! using fancy paints (yellow, blue, red and white) can be quite heavy due to the pigments they have and if you add it up for the whole car it makes a big difference. Plus if you get bored of the colour its cheap and easy to change!
    It had crossed my mind, but I must admit I assumed the vinyl would have weighed more than paint. This is very interesting if vinyl is lighter.

    Anyone know what a typical cost to vinyl wrap a Nova might be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick J View Post
    Colin........ What happened to the idea you mentioned to me sometime ago?

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    Hi Nick.

    You're talking about the Ferrari Red idea I guess? I've gone right off reds now.

    I'd like to pick your brains about paint anyway, as I can imagine some of it costs a lot of money.

    That Ferrari Yellow I posted up is (I think) 'Giallo Triplo Strato', which was an £11k (eek) option on the 458 model.

    Is it going to be possible to buy that from a paint supplier, and if so how much is it likely to cost me in raw materials? Any idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by novarally View Post
    It had crossed my mind, but I must admit I assumed the vinyl would have weighed more than paint. This is very interesting if vinyl is lighter.

    Anyone know what a typical cost to vinyl wrap a Nova might be?
    I know your average repmobile BMW/Audi large saloon/4x4 (vinyl magnets!) is about 2-2.5k in good quality stuff, so something cheap and cheerful as a bright, replaceable colour on the Nova, less than a grand I would have hoped?

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    Or you could just have a go yourself if your feeling brave. The Nova would be pretty simple to work with being mostly flat panels. I bought 9m of vinyl for my Mini and me and a mate spent 3 days doing it. It's not perfect but I've yet to see a wrap that is. I think the 9m cost me about £350 for decent 3m controltac.




    I just weighed some leftover stuff from my Mini for you. 1m sq weighs 175grams

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    hi colin the chap that does all my stickers ect also does these vinyl wraps i will get a price for you and a ruff quote on how much material it would take so you can work out a ruff weight if you like??

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    do it in DG3 yellow wrap, by fook it'll be bright ,

    anyway why bother about paint/wrap, i thought you had it coated so any additional material will now only add weight? are alloy hubs allowed?
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