Joining a union

[Jack]

Are you an outsourced civil servant?

[tony k]

Are you an outsourced civil servant?

No I'm not jack,gonna phone citizens advice today see what they say

[tony k]

Are you an outsourced civil servant?

No I'm not jack,gonna phone citizens advice today see what they say

[Jack]

Ah ok, its just the TUPE flicked my lights on - I got outsourced from the civil service not long ago, and have a TUPE agreement covering my current terms and conditions.

I'm actually in a very similar boat - as I have regular medical appointments, it pushes me over the 14 day point we have for pinging HR about excessive time off. Doesn't help the fact that the time recording system (unlike in the CS) makes no differentiation for hospital appointments etc, its all recorded as "sick leave"

I'd ask them to confirm why you were being disciplined - they can't count a certified absence (i.e. with a doctors note/medical cert) as unauthorised, especially if its for a pre-determined medical condition

[tony k]

I've asked them in my last one,the guy who gave me
The disciplinary said they don't tolerate illnesses,said I wanted that in writing but am still waiting,will ask again tomorrow again,the thing is all this stress they are giving me us starting make me I'll again

[mowgli]

it is actually illegal for the man to take that attitude. also ask for a copy of their sickness policy.

[tony k]

Thanks mowgli didn't think of that

I know it sounds stupid,but has anyone got any questions that I can put forward to them for tomorrow

[Jack]

As mowglers said, ask for a copy of their sickness policy (make sure its the TUPE conditions) - it'll probably be buried in a plethora of general employment conditions, but at least you can take it to a solicitor and see what they make of it.

Also ask them to explain what they mean by "don't tolerate illness", as firing or disciplining someone purely because they've been signed off by a doctor is a massive no-no for employee treatment.

And do you have a copy of your old employment T&Cs, or job advert? As if they needed someone physically fit, it should have stated that in the advert or terms of reference. Proving the job can be done by someone with whatever ailment you suffer from would be where the union or solicitor would come in handy too.

[tony k]

Well had my disciplinary today,was a total waste of time,he said that my medical health is not a illness,I've had it since I was 6 months old,plus got a nhs card to prove that I have a illness,also why did the doctor sign me off for a week,I said are you a doctor then,saying the time I have had off is not illness related,how can he say that,don't know what he is on but he ain't on this planet

Well he was ment to come to me with a decision in the afternoon,but never did

Plus the best part of it is I had doctors today,they have signed menoff again as it's strafing to come back up,like before,will have to tell him the good news in abit

[Stuart]

Ossum, your boss knows nothing about employment law, get a solicitor to write a letter for you and get on with kickin his ass. Might cost you £150 BUT well worth it and keeps you away from the even coontier folks whom are the unions.