Your next project will be an interesting one no doubt, I shall look forward to hearing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by C612DNM
Yes, I got the wheels from Col Rooney. A very interesting garage full of stuff he has!
Printable View
Your next project will be an interesting one no doubt, I shall look forward to hearing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by C612DNM
Yes, I got the wheels from Col Rooney. A very interesting garage full of stuff he has!
For anyone who might be interested in buying a fully race/rally prepped Nova bodyshell, I have this one for sale now;Quote:
Originally Posted by C612DNM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/hillclimbe...p2047675.l2562
Nothing to update on the car unfortunately, but thanks to another change in safety regulations by the MSA, I've had to get a HANS device to be able to race next season;
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psw9ipyai8.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psutnif4ab.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psx7aqu9co.jpg
So the driver is ready to go, just no car to race in currently.
very Nice. Scottish hill climb will be going the same way next year.
Cant say I agree completely with the use of Hans. Its the old how reasonably practicable does as safe as reasonably practicable have to be. yes it is safer, but is it reasonably practicable for can an entry level racer to be as safe as a high budget racer. when I compare my budget to a high budget single seat hill climb driver its not even close. so how can it be reasonably practicable for me to budget for the same safety devices as them.
the only thing will suffer is the number of people who Join the club/enter the races. which is a shame.
Its like expecting us to have the same spec safety gear as an F1 team because its safer.
I do agree with you, it's a shame there are very few youngsters coming into motorsport (unless they have hugely rich parents). When I started off you could realistically turn up with a very lightly modified road car and a helmet, and you'd be racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by therealnovaboy
Safety has to move on but I think it's gone a bit far now, and the start-up costs before you get on track are phenomenal, out of reach for most people.
The safety issue is a big big part of the MSA's role these days. Mandating a Head And Neck Support system has been a long time coming. Dale Earnhardt perished in the Daytona 500 in 2001 due to a basal skull fracture, breaking C1. "but he was doing 200mph" I hear people shout. Steve Bell died at Silverstone the same year, in a Mini Miglia, hitting the pitwall at around 70mph. Same fracture. Same outcome. Others have suffered the same fate over the years, until the HANS (or similar) became mandatory for circuit racing. I raced at Rockingham in the ASCAR/SCSA/Days of Thunder/V8 Trophy (call it what you will!), we were mandated to a head and neck support system back in 2002. There were other devices back then, the Hutchings device was a harness that you wore over your suit and attached to the helmet via D rings. It wasn't as good as a pukka Schroth HANS device, but it was still quite effective. There are other types of "brace" available that are MSA/FIA approved, but all work in the same kind of way. F1 were behind NASCAR in implementing mandatory HANS as it happens....
I've had one since 2003, and won't go on track without it. You can't buy a new neck or spine on eBay.
I do agree with you on the cost of getting into the sport these days, it's horrendous compared to my first time out. I think it cost be about £600 to prep my Nova Sport for the track, which included the rollcage, fire extinguisher, race seat, isolator, my romper suit, and first helmet (which was open face).
My licence was about £33/yr (Race National B), championship registration was £50, BRSCC Racing Membership was about £75, and race entries were £58. If I finished the race I got £15 back from the series.
Nowadays, you have to do the ARDS course to get your licence, that's going to set you back about £600 on it's own. Then there the licence, and all of the mandated safety equipment, before you start to prep the car. I'd estimate the cost of getting on track now has to be around £4K to prep a car for basic road-going type spec. Though you can pick up ready to run bottom bucket cars for around £3K or less if you haggle!
I notice some serious machinery out there in the sprinting and hillclimbing world these days, much more than years ago. Though back then there were a lot of ex-F1 based machines, the odd F3000 based cars too. I see a lot of "redundant" Special Saloons from the 70's and 80's still being used (they can come back to the roundy roundies if they like as the CSCC has a friendly series for them called - oddly enough - Classic Special Saloons & Modsports).
Money makes the world go around... the world go around... (everybody sing...)
Safety should always be first in motor sport.
yes but it has to be practical, affordable, reasonable and available to the people using it. the easiest way to make it safe is to remove the hazard. why don't we ban it all together if safety should come first? next we will have to have air bags, crumple zones, ABS, side impact the list goes on fitted to our nova's just to allow us to race in a legally organised event and without risk to others. you have to draw the line somewhere, health and safety will be the death of us all unless "as far as reasonably practicable" is understood and considered appropriately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benn
novarally - will need to post more build pictures to get this thread back on track. apologies.
Well yes i guess your right in that way.
The end of a very long search today, when I finally got hold of some carbon fibre doors;
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psikbgasgp.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psanxud3kg.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psznhtwodw.jpg
I had to buy the rest of the car to get them, but the effort should be worth it in the end.
Very nice, weighed them yet? Is it a case of stick your arm through the window from the outisde to open the doors once their on the car?
The one that was on eBay I'm guessing? The car looked to have potential with a nice wide arch kit, are you planning to do anything with it?
I haven't put them on the scales yet, but I would guess they're about 4 or 5kg each. I will check properly soon, but as they have full carbon inner skins there is scope to reduce the weight further ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by paul james
I will have to sort out some sort of external handles for them, as the regulations require the doors to be able to be opened from outside in case of accident etc. They had TVR-style buttons under the mirrors on the car they were previously on.
Yes, it was that car off EBAY.Quote:
Originally Posted by totalnova
The shell is really nice and solid, and has one of Phil Baines's wide arch kits on it, so it's a proper job.
The cage is a full welded-in Custom Cages one, and I have a feeling it's a T45 one as well.
I will have to sell it in due course, I just haven't got the spare cash to keep it myself.
Look good, any other pictures of the nova they come off like the sound of it and missed the eBay listing unless you've got the item number so I could have a nosey
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthr...on-fiber-doorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Plug
Cheers Pete I found you eBay for sale thread and had a nosey
wasnt mine for sale, just found it while searching for my next project mr butt ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Plug
Nice to see you finally got a set Colin. I think mine are around that weight also.
I saw that car and did think of you Colin. Hats off to you for buying the whole car, sometimes you have too.
Very nice buy. Doors look very good.
A temporary solution to instrumentation, as I am still waiting for SBD to tell me that the new MBE digital display is ready for me........so back to analogue for the moment;
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...pssax9diwi.jpg
Also just arrived is a 3J Driveline plate LSD, photos to follow.
This replaces the Tran-X LSD's and Quaife ATB which I have had in various gearboxes over the years. I've heard good things about the 3J LSD, if anyone on here has any personal experience of them (especially in a FWD Vauxhall) then let me know.
Those doors look absolutely brilliant; a little strange they moulded the entire thing perfectly and left off the door handle recesses.
If it was my situation I'd probably revert to a button & catch solution.
They were bespoke-moulded by a guy who makes professional kayaks, who was apparently asked to make them without door handles as the owner was going to use the TVR-style release buttons under the mirrors.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRoadGhost
Have you contact details for him Colin ?
Unfortunately not Jezz, the guy I bought the car from didn't have his details.Quote:
Originally Posted by toymex
If I could track him down I would certainly talk to him about making more sets.
That's a shame. I would be up for a pair as my drivers door is a bit second hand thanks to a spinning Caterham !��Quote:
Originally Posted by novarally
You'd think that someone on PNG would know who made them.Quote:
Originally Posted by toymex
There can't be many people who have commissioned a one-off set of Nova carbon doors (from a man who makes kayaks).
Little repair work on the pillars an them doors will be sweet
That nova that was on ebay looks very much like a friends rallycross shell.It was always just sitting around in his workshop but cant remember ever seeing it with the wide arch kit on. I will ask him next time I see him if it was him who got the doors built as he was always going to build a nice nova.
Thanks, if you could ask that would be good, you never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGA33
It's far too long since there was an update on this.
The truth is there's been nothing to report.
But fingers crossed there is light in the tunnel. Next week my Nova is going off to be finished at A1 Rallysport (owned by Steve Scott, well known for his circuit racing exploits in a huge array of cars, mostly Ford Cosworth).
Steve used to prepare my own Escort Cosworths, so the Nova will be in good hands.
Sounds like you have been having as much luck as me Colin ,I'm sure Steve will do a great job ,be good to see how you get on with Graham's engineQuote:
Originally Posted by novarally
Thanks Jezz, I am totally confident in Steve's abilities to do the job, his work on my Escort was always exemplary. The hard bit is accepting that I have neither the time, or more importantly the skills to do the work myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by toymex
I I have been lax in keeping up with your Nova, where are you with it now?
not much has been happening with mine ,I had a very nice exhaust made that need the boot floor remodelling to suit so ATM the car is back on the spit to paint the the underside .i still have no engine so I don't think I am going to make the start of the season.I need to do a bit of testing too as the new dampers are vastly different to the old ,I suspect my spring rates will be all wrong now .Quote:
Originally Posted by novarally
What is Steve doing to yours ,it didn't look far off the last time I saw you post ?
Mine is really just finishing off. From the top of my head;Quote:
Originally Posted by toymex
Hydraulic clutch
new 3J LSD to go in
make an exhaust system (probably in aluminium)
Fuel pipes
brake pipes
coolant pipes to make in alloy tube
attaching Carbon doors, front-end and tailgate
suspension set-up
Dammit, I was expecting awe pictures lol
Glad to see your still doing it though Colin.
Since your last outing Colin in this have any rules and regulations changed?
Are you needing newer seats, helmet and harnesses?
Funnily enough I've just been reading something on the 'Uphill Racers' website, and it appears that I will need a new set of safety belts now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Southie
I've recently bought the newly required HANS device, and a newer set of fireproof overalls. As far as I know the helmet I have is all ok, it should be as it's still current issue in F1!
I went to the excellent 'Race Retro' show last weekend, and came away with 6 of these 8" x 13" OZ Magnesium wheels for a bargain price;
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psvdgef40m.jpg
Of course they are centrelock fitting, so are going to require some engineering to get them onto a Nova, but it's a possibility for the future.
They don't exactly fit at the moment.........
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...psdvnkt5uf.jpg