collage course welding

[General Baxter]

we have an aprentice at work doing this, hes been there 2 years now,

my god what are they teaching the kids now adays lol

i was welding 2 6mm steel plates together thursday, and let the kid have a go

his weld ended yp nearly 4cm wide and 1cm high, i asked him, is that how they teach you, put as much as you can on, and hope it sticks, he said yes,


god help the next generation of welders lol

[Martin]

lol i hope they dotn want me to do that next year at college lol

[Philsutton]

Oh dear thats bad, 2 years. Almost as bad as the kids that spend 4 years at college doing mechanics yet cant even change a wheel.

Best way to learn anything like that is got thrown straight into it and have someone stand over you telling you what a piss poor job your doing very loudly. Soon pick it up then.

[Martin]

Best way to learn anything like that is got thrown straight into it and have someone stand over you telling you what a piss poor job your doing very loudly. Soon pick it up then.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[craig green]

I quite believe anyone needs to have a small amount of natural talent to learn any new skill & also a desire to want to learn.

I guess many of these muppets dont really want to know, they just land up doing these courses at college instead of the next monotonous subject.

(evening courses aside)

[dannyb]

I work with the 'lower quartile' students in a secondary school. Some of these students who are 14/15 years old (in year 10) get a chance to go to college one or 2 days a week to learn mechanics.

Is it a co-incidence that many of these boys are also behaviourally problematic and the school is only too happy to encourage them to go on these courses out of schoool one or two days a week??

As they are not the most motivated in regular lessons, this system hopes to foster some enthusiasm and build their self esteem from doing something which doesn't necessarily mean they will fall down due to academic reasons. There are some success stories, but on the whole, these lads take their p1ss poor attitude to college and use it as a doss. They are already disenfranchised with learning and are too stupid to see that this is a break for them. This stupidity also means they cannot pick up or transfer any skills, hence the sh1t welding and non-thinking of the work you saw at work Baxter!

[draper]

the thing that winds me up tho is that these people will get a pice of paper to say there qualified and walk into a job even tho they cant do the job properly

[mowgli]

if you think trainee mechanics are pillocks, you should see what the building trade courses produce....... We got a second year nvq bricklayer for a day-release placement. the lecturer actually rang us to give a glowing reference. this kid had hands like a girl, he didn't know how to mix cement, could not lay bricks, & after getting told off by one of our real brickies, he rang his mum to fetch him because we were bullying him. him, his dad, his mum & the lecturer in turn got a rollicking off my brother.
PS. Baxter, nuneaton college welding dept is actually quite good, but I guess this kid was trained elsewhere

[General Baxter]

tamworth lol

[vallanc3]

i quit my welding couse because they were trying to make me crap. i mean i already knew how to weld i just needed the papers. was there for about 3month and told them to stick it as i could weld better than the teacher was doing

[Welsh Dan]

I was thinking about doing a welding course lol.

[mikey14sr]

Those who can, do it for a living.......

....Those who can't, teach.......

Although the guy's at my local college were mainly ex ship-builders, and could make almost invisible butt welds in 12mm plate with arc welders!
Most of them were hardened car enthusiasts and restorers too. Along with MIG welding, they also taught me how to gas weld 3mm plate to the point where just a little filing was needed to make it look like it had been 6mm plate all along.

This was only "taster" training thrown in to the car mechanic course as an attempt to keep people attending. Most of my mig experience came from placements at mot repair garages.

[mowgli]

Most of my mig experience came from placements at mot repair garages.

Ah the old 'it needs welding underneath for the mot missus' then get a kid to pigeon poo a biscuit tin to the floor, routine.............

my step brother once took his mk3 cavalier to a fast fit mot place. they told him the calipers were seized, the master cylinder was leaking, the handbrake did not work, & it needed welding........then quoted ?800. thankfully he rang me. I told him to stop the work & get the car out of there, & said I would be round to fix the back wall of the garage the next morning.
' Why? ' he asked. I said 'cos if the brakes were that shagged, you would have taken out the back wall'. any way, the garage had already done the welding & drained the brake fluid. he paid ?100 to get it out..... he took it to another garage where the put new fluid in & took the 'metal plate' off, then passed it..........

[ade]

you'll probably find most welding courses spend the 1st year dealing with health and safety and first aid and the 1st part of the 2nd year you get to watch a lecturer doing the welding whilst you stand behind a protective sheet of reinforced glass with protective extra dark glasses. the latter part of the year is onplacement picking up how it should be done on the job!

[meritlover]

i quit my welding couse because they were trying to make me crap.:eek:

well we all have to go at least once a day! but i prefere to go when im ready and not have someone forcing me.