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Adam
13-02-10, 07:54 PM
Yes mate but i want it to still handle ;) lol

It can go as low as Wilsons but it will just be sitting with the spring top plate on the top of the shock body lol
basically i'll have two metal bars for rear suspension....

If i could get a cheap blowover id have it done in white tomorrow!!!, theres just something about white nova's!!! The current colour is old skool yeah, but just a bitch to match and im never going see any spare panels in the right colour etc....

MK999
13-02-10, 07:55 PM
If i could get a cheap blowover id have it done in white, theres just something about white nova's!!!

Agreed, mine was gonna go white if I kept it, because the crappy paint desperately needed sorting! I just can't spray over the top of mustard yellow though lol

Paul
13-02-10, 07:57 PM
looks much better!

Good work Ad

Adam
13-02-10, 07:57 PM
Yeah, and a clean white always looks fresh too!

Current colour just gets a bit boring after a while!!! But i get bored easily lol


Cheers Paul

John
13-02-10, 08:00 PM
lookin good Ad!

MK999
13-02-10, 08:01 PM
Yeah, and a clean white always looks fresh too!

Current colour just gets a bit boring after a while!!! But i get bored easily lol


Cheers Paul

I was gonna go with red bits in mine to carry off not painting the interior lol Ade mentioned doing it in white while we were camping at combe as it shows up less flaws and I admittedly can't paint for peanuts, then there was a corsa next to us at trax with red bump strips/other bits that looked pretty cool, so I came up with:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/MK999/colourplan.jpg
Even just photoshopping it fresh white made it look miles better though!

Paul
13-02-10, 08:01 PM
just leave it as it is, i actually quite like the colour of your car, its different, suits a mk1!

peester
13-02-10, 08:44 PM
i agree.. spend it on management and t.b's.. i wanna see laptop mapping in front seat in '85 nova shocker..
worry about the colour, its beautiful.

Adam
13-02-10, 08:50 PM
Management is on the way to me now...... ;)

peester
13-02-10, 08:52 PM
ah, u said better than jerkasquirt but not quite designer label lol

Adam
13-02-10, 08:54 PM
http://www.gotechefi.com/ecus/gotechmfipro.html

peester
13-02-10, 08:56 PM
no ****! go-techs cool

me main man.. some stirring in seats goin on lol.


*I got shift-light output with my mbe too; been out n got one lol £5 from work..

Adam
13-02-10, 08:58 PM
Yep, its still got a map on it too from a 1800 16v on bodies, and the looms for a fwd vauxhall :)
So its enough to hopefully get it started.

Paul
13-02-10, 08:59 PM
wo when are they going on then?

peester
13-02-10, 09:00 PM
easy peasey. lol.

Benn
13-02-10, 09:03 PM
Dude looks much better! Looks nicer lower down, better stance.
The exhaust system hangs so low it looks broken..lol

Adam
13-02-10, 09:08 PM
Yeah its suprising how much different just an inch or two lower makes it look.

Paul, as soon as the ecu gets here i can get the standard inlet etc off and go from there. ASAP really! Want them on/running well for Combe in April.
I also have other things to do though, exhaust and shifter. But giving myself like 2months, so im hoping ive got plenty of time.

Might get the bodies out the loft tomorrow and make sure all is looking well.


Benn-Yeah tell me about it!!!!!

peester
13-02-10, 09:13 PM
lol ad ull get urs running quicker than me with mine lol

Adam
13-02-10, 09:16 PM
We'll see lol

Only going be revving this to about 7200rpm due to standard rod bolts.
I do have some ARPs but i dont want to remove my now none leaking sump, pmsl lol
It should see peak power before 7200 anyways :)

peester
13-02-10, 09:20 PM
woo well.. i guess thats down to mr mapper..
even with ARP's im limited to 7.5K, like u say - if gunning for torque rather than peak power no need to stress.

Adam
13-02-10, 09:22 PM
SBD say 7750 with Arps, 7250 without for a 20xe.
Im only running standard cams etc too, so probably looking at 7ish k rpm limiter

Benn
13-02-10, 09:24 PM
Sounds noisey and fun!

Adam
13-02-10, 09:26 PM
Hopefully.
These are the same as the bodies i have
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/corsa808/tbs.jpg

Will be getting some longer trumpets thought to get the inlet length longer :cool:

MK999
13-02-10, 09:28 PM
Those bodies look well tasty, what are they? Look fully CNC'd and I'm sure I've never noticed that with SBD's before and the only others I know of are jenveys and dbilas 'fake' TB's lol

peester
13-02-10, 09:33 PM
novatech bodies - as good as u can get really..

they look way better than any jenvey boring crap. look like theyre about to go on a night out lol..

90mm trumpets bringeth oneth the??

Adam
13-02-10, 09:43 PM
Yes, they are billet Novatech NTR bodies. Old skool bodies!!! Rare to even see a set these days.

Dave, got to take a few measurements and see what length trumpets are ideal. The firewall is coming out the bay anyways, so any length will fit fine :cool:

Benn
13-02-10, 09:45 PM
Had a twitch in my boxers seeing the bodies then...

Adam
14-02-10, 06:33 PM
Dug the bodies and inlet out the loft today :cool:
They need a quick clean, but they should be spot on when fitted!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/Photo0239.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/Photo0240.jpg

Also found my spare set of blue xe injectors :)

Mike
14-02-10, 06:40 PM
They look fab as fook an make me want to build a TB'd Corsa track car :)

peester
14-02-10, 06:47 PM
they are, without doubt the sexiest itb award goes to.. that fella rysee(?) had a set on his white gsi/cut slabs/1.6 8v novatech gear.. years ago.. i luved them then.

blue xe injectors..?

Adam
14-02-10, 06:52 PM
:d

Benn
14-02-10, 08:11 PM
They are proper buff and you call me bufty...lol

Adam
14-02-10, 08:24 PM
They are a bit bufty for a track car lol
Might need to make them look a bit more 'ard lol

Mazz
14-02-10, 08:44 PM
Get the matt black rattle can out Ad ;)

MK999
14-02-10, 09:02 PM
I think you may find yourself disorientated in the middle of nowhere while a group of PNG'ers fight with each other and your manifold bolts at the first show of the year tbh lol

scott.parker
14-02-10, 11:19 PM
Them TB's look like the stuff AT do now, pretty cool too dude, but dont buy new trumpets just try them to start with etc.

Scott

Ash
16-02-10, 11:01 PM
wow, this has come on alot since I last looked! Very impressed. Did those TB's come from a guy at the end of the M4? - white GSi? I cant remember his name, but I had the 1650 8v bottom end of him and seem to remember seeing those on the bench.

Paul
16-02-10, 11:04 PM
Hmm i like bodies, get them on! stop messing about!

General Baxter
16-02-10, 11:06 PM
stop messing about!

this is adam were talking about,

he would wait to find a bolt on the floor, then to buy one for £1 the tight **** lol

Paul
16-02-10, 11:08 PM
this is adam were talking about,

he would wait to find a bolt on the floor, then to buy one for £1 the tight **** lol

LMAO, NOT FAR WRONG!

Linch
18-02-10, 05:45 PM
They look like my mates old ones actually:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/corsa808/12022007463.jpghttp://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/corsa808/CIMG0128.jpg

Adam
18-02-10, 08:22 PM
Yeah they are.
They are the trumpets i want!!!!

Adam
18-02-10, 08:24 PM
this is adam were talking about,

he would wait to find a bolt on the floor, then to buy one for £1 the tight **** lol And its how you build a 170/180hp engine on a serious budget :thumb:
You should try it sometime


Ash, yes they are mate :)

General Baxter
18-02-10, 08:35 PM
You should try it sometime


**** that, throw everything you have at it, whats the point in having loads in the bank, when you can die tommorow, live for today :thumb:

Mike
18-02-10, 08:43 PM
**** that, throw everything you have at it, whats the point in having loads in the bank, when you can die tommorow, live for today :thumb:

Going by that theory tho Nick, why are people on here throwing literally thousands at crappy old Novas :p lol

Adam
18-02-10, 08:53 PM
**** that, throw everything you have at it, whats the point in having loads in the bank, when you can die tommorow, live for today :thumb:
Because i have a lot more things to spend cash on than a shonky nova :d
I dont do things on a budget because i have to, its because i want to.... :thumb:

General Baxter
18-02-10, 08:55 PM
saying that, to fit the charger on my 1.6 cost about £400 in total, it worked, but was dangerous, if id have thrown 1000's at it like i would of done, it would of exploded a lot sooner lol

Adam
18-02-10, 08:57 PM
Budget builds are way cooler anyway!!!

General Baxter
18-02-10, 08:58 PM
and heres me spending hundreds of pounds on stickers lol

Count Vaux Alot
18-02-10, 09:53 PM
Very nice Adam budget ftw!

John
18-02-10, 09:56 PM
Ad, the trumpets are available from sbd iirc. I priced them for some carbs, iirc they're about 45 quid?

Hats off to you for managing what you do on your budget fella!

Benn
18-02-10, 09:57 PM
Good buying skills for spending little.

andy_mk3
21-02-10, 09:54 PM
Just read through all 256 pages of this (took me 3 days!). Awesome project though, I'm really liking where it's going. Keep it up! :thumb:

scoobynova
21-02-10, 09:57 PM
yeah i'm into this

Adam
26-02-10, 07:28 PM
Cheers :)

Bit of an update, a package arrived today, and inside it was this :d :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/ea71a3b7.jpg

Braided loom, niceeee
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/c1cfae2f.jpg

Hopefully get it hooked up to a spare battery tomorrow and plugged in the laptop see if its alive!!!!

General Baxter
26-02-10, 07:31 PM
can i come and play with laptop buttons ?

Adam
26-02-10, 07:36 PM
Fcuk no! lol

Need some LET injectors now, hoping i come across some at the spares day on Sunday!! Will be going in the astra now, cba drive for an hour in the nova lol

Benn
26-02-10, 08:03 PM
Ooo pretty.

peester
26-02-10, 08:15 PM
i had spaghetti for dinner today

Adam
26-02-10, 08:27 PM
lol
Compared to a vauxhall loom, aftermarket management looms are simple as fcuk! lol

peester
26-02-10, 08:59 PM
hey, totally agree - uve seen how spartan my engine bay is from wiring.. best mods ever..
also binning tensioners pas air con n all that..

Adam
26-02-10, 09:03 PM
Yeah, basically the only wires in my bay with the gotech will be injectors/crank sensor/tps/air & water temp/coilpacks.

This ecu has also got launch control too, which might be handy for pod :cool:

peester
26-02-10, 09:07 PM
ooh, some grown-up features then.. doesnt that need sensors placing by the front wheels..?

Adam
26-02-10, 09:09 PM
Nope, it just limits your revs/ignition advance so you can have the throttle floored but the engine will just sit at whatever rpm you set it too. Kind of like a 2nd rev limiter..
Probably make some 'wikid pops and bangs too lol

Your thinking of traction control ;)

peester
26-02-10, 09:10 PM
oh right yeah.. well u might need that too with ur big block

discoinferno
27-02-10, 09:33 AM
you wont need let injectors xe creams or blues will do blues have a better spray pattern, olly hweitt saw 197 on creams

Adam
27-02-10, 09:41 AM
Yup but i think he was running 4.5bar fuel pressure, i dont want to run pressure that high. So dropping it down to 2.5/3bar and running let yellows.

discoinferno
27-02-10, 09:55 AM
Yup but i think he was running 4.5bar fuel pressure, i dont want to run pressure that high. So dropping it down to 2.5/3bar and running let yellows.

im sure you will have problems using them but best of luck, all the best trying to get the gotech to work only person who can map it is jamie going, its shocking to use even more so than my emerald, when you get it mapped take it to jamsport i wouldnt trust anybody else with it!

Adam
27-02-10, 09:58 AM
Yes mate the old dealertune software is shocking and looks like something from 1970, but the newer ProXP software is much more user friendly (i.e. you can use a mouse,rofl lol )
The only thing is im not 100% sure the new software works with the older ecu...

scott.parker
27-02-10, 11:29 AM
Well done Ad, my mates just got GO tech o for him mk1 escort, and he's going to Jam sport to get it all set on his AT power TB's, i wish you the best of luck with it all dude, i have no idea what the go tech stuffs like?

Scott

discoinferno
27-02-10, 11:34 AM
Yes mate the old dealertune software is shocking and looks like something from 1970, but the newer ProXP software is much more user friendly (i.e. you can use a mouse,rofl lol )
The only thing is im not 100% sure the new software works with the older ecu...

i dont think it will mate tbh the newer software is for the prox and mini x i think, i could be wrong. best of just letting jamie sort it alot less hassle!a friend ahd issues getting the std gm sensors to work with the pro x in the end he sold ecu got another ecu and worked fine, jamie gets them to work and well :)

Adam
07-03-10, 08:02 PM
Bit of an update, was sunny today so i cracked on!!!
Got laptop wired up to the GoTech, all is well and its working fine.
Good bye standard inlet.

Powercap/afm removed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/776d399b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/88570249.jpg

Inlet removed(bastid of a job with the engine in the car!!!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/59eb5336.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/75c8e9b9.jpg

Also noticed that the clutch cable had nearly rubbed THROUGH the inlet!! Its worn a few mm out the back of the inlet, so i'll be fitting a new cable too.

Bare head
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/31eed55f.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/a30bd9c7.jpg

I was going save these pics for the 18+ section :cool: lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/9a9a09d1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/536d6cc3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/15fc1eea.jpg

They fit spot on! Not sure whether bothering removing the firewall because i think the trumpets sit lower than the level of the firewall, so even with it gone longer trumpets will hit it...
How much clearance ive got
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/364cab3e.jpg

They are quite "blingy" so make the rest of the engine/bay look shonky! lol
I've got a new rocker cover etc to go on though to tidy it up.

More tomorrow, hoping to get the bodies properly bolted up, and do a bit of work on the ecu loom (got to fit new CTS plugs etc)

That is all for now :d

MK999
07-03-10, 08:09 PM
knowing how much they cost fills me with a slight sense of hatred, nothing personal mind lol Look awesome :cool:

Benn
07-03-10, 08:11 PM
Dude that look frigging sexy!

John
07-03-10, 08:13 PM
top stuff ad! You got everything to make it run now?

let_nova
07-03-10, 08:14 PM
lovely. top stuff

discoinferno
07-03-10, 08:18 PM
looking good adam!

Iain
07-03-10, 08:29 PM
It's great how much room TBs and stuff free up in the bay, looking good Mr Ad, proper nice day to be tinkering wasnt it!

Adam
07-03-10, 08:33 PM
top stuff ad! You got everything to make it run now?
I just need a pressure regulator and gauge, apart from that yeah.

Im glad people like :d

Discoinferno-You were spot on, the ProXp software is proX/miniX only. Im stuck with the Dealertune software which to put it kindly is horrific to use!! lol
Ok, its easy to do things on, but its just not friendly(you cant use a mouse etc) It is quite simple though, hoping get it running on the map thats already on there.

Im using cream injectors for now too(as ive got them lying about), will check see what the ecu gives the duty cycle at.


Does anyone know how low i can cut the firewall down? Theres like a seam with spot welds on, you can see in my pics, can i only go down to the top of the seam? Or can i grind down flush with the battery tray? If you get me :)

Adam
07-03-10, 08:34 PM
It's great how much room TBs and stuff free up in the bay, looking good Mr Ad, proper nice day to be tinkering wasnt it!
I said exactly the same thing!
With the standard inlet binned you can even SEE the starter motor lol
Makes working on the inlet side of the engine so much easier.

And yeah, it was 8.5deg :cool: (scorcher lol )

Iain
07-03-10, 08:35 PM
You can cut below the spot welds so it's flush with the tray. I think it's just the tray that flicks up that is spot welded to the firewall so it's not needed.

Adam
07-03-10, 08:36 PM
Cool, im binning the firewall then as that means i can run longer trumpets.

Ste L
07-03-10, 09:23 PM
bling bling ;)


they look's ace fella, nova will be a right slag with them fitted, and engine mapped

peester
07-03-10, 09:26 PM
ill be watching your firewall removal bit with interest.. thanks for today too ad.

Adam
07-03-10, 09:32 PM
No probs mate, keep us updated :)
Put that pic in your thread btw

Mike
07-03-10, 09:38 PM
Good stuff Ad :)

Adam
07-03-10, 09:40 PM
Cheers Mike :)

Graeme
07-03-10, 09:42 PM
I have an fse afpr here if its any use Ad?

Mike
07-03-10, 09:43 PM
Cheers Mike :)

Im *almost* tempted to build a T/B'd GTE track car rather then buy something completly lairy instead. Was talking to Lee about it earlier lol

peester
07-03-10, 09:45 PM
ad, if you need a pointer on the fpr i think you need the 'AIR' part numbers.. reason being theyre fully adjustable - and only meant to be used on standalone mgnment cars..
mine is a AIR007 which is a newer one i think, but there are others..

Adam
07-03-10, 09:47 PM
PM'd Graeme

Dave,i'll have a look about mate :) Just need something that will hold 3-4bar

Mike-Do IT!!!!

Mike
07-03-10, 09:54 PM
Mike-Do IT!!!!

Always sounds a good idea at the time, but TBH, im just lazy an cant be @rsed too lol lol

Benn
07-03-10, 09:56 PM
Im *almost* tempted to build a T/B'd GTE track car rather then buy something completly lairy instead. Was talking to Lee about it earlier lol

Dooooooooooooooooooooooo it!

scott.parker
08-03-10, 05:24 PM
Looks good dude! very nice.. You wont regret it.

Adam
09-03-10, 01:26 PM
Cheers Scott.

Firewall is now removed, was a bit of a difficult job because i couldnt remove the front strut brace, so had to saw some parts of the firewall and get the grinder on the rest. lol
Suprising how much bigger it makes the bay look.

Now i cant fit the watershield over the heater blower motor am i going need drill a few holes in the blower surround to stop water collecting in it?

Pics later

Linch
09-03-10, 02:07 PM
Looks good mate, the old dealer tune is annoying, you can use the new one to change the map, but not live on the car :(

I will be removing the firewall on mine (when I start work on it) lol

Benn
09-03-10, 06:03 PM
Now i cant fit the watershield over the heater blower motor am i going need drill a few holes in the blower surround to stop water collecting in it?


Yes i've had to do this on mine. In the cup like bits drill them at the front.

MK999
09-03-10, 06:06 PM
or leave it and when you're late for a trackday you can have a shower in the car! lol

Adam
09-03-10, 06:14 PM
Cool, i'll get some holes drilled tomorrow then.

Few pics from yesterday:
Cuttty cutty
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/71f75238.jpg

Primered on the bar metal
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/dbca78dd.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/b2c3afa6.jpg

Splash of paint
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/c3095e0a.jpg


Good to see Solid batt trayhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/f55283a6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/7245d09a.jpg

It does look a bit "shonky" tbh, but nevermind, it should let a shed load of cold air that gets forced through the scuttle panel into the tb intake.... :d

Also had a look at the internal shifter
i cut down my astra shifter to remove the kink, it needs the end welding back on now, but its wayy to short, so im going cut the nova one and join them together.
The cav/cally shifters have the kink in a different place.....

Getting busy with the grinder tomorrow to remove the centre console support panel
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/03f040d3.jpg

More tomorrow if i aint hungover lol

The Simps
09-03-10, 06:17 PM
Good work. Function over form dude.

Iain
09-03-10, 06:19 PM
You removed half the firewall you slacker lol

Linch
09-03-10, 09:54 PM
You wont regret it for the noise!

Adam
10-03-10, 12:42 PM
You removed half the firewall you slacker lol
lol
Yeah, i need the other parts of it. For wiper motor and for the battery clamp :thumb:

Southie
10-03-10, 01:01 PM
mmmmm those bodies look awesome. Get it on mini worlds rollers, it must be 300bhp now lol

Adam
10-03-10, 01:01 PM
lol

scott.parker
10-03-10, 05:49 PM
Glad your getting back into it mate, said you would didn't i... lol

Adam
10-03-10, 07:06 PM
Yup lol

SRimon
10-03-10, 07:41 PM
You down to combe in april ad?

Adam
10-03-10, 07:43 PM
Yes mate

SRimon
10-03-10, 07:46 PM
Ah I should be up for that one, poss in the Nova too.

Adam
10-03-10, 07:47 PM
Sweet :)

Benn
10-03-10, 08:12 PM
Are you on track too?

Adam
10-03-10, 08:18 PM
Me?

Benn
10-03-10, 08:18 PM
lol yes...

Adam
10-03-10, 08:20 PM
Of course :d

Assuming ive got a working engine....

Benn
10-03-10, 08:21 PM
Awesome. I want a pass ride... But i wanna take pics too..lol

Adam
10-03-10, 08:31 PM
Sound :)
Im hoping get a few sessions booked,so get pics on one session and then hang onto your seat in another ;) lol

SRimon
10-03-10, 08:36 PM
Shotgun passenger ride too!

Benn
10-03-10, 08:39 PM
Sound :)
Im hoping get a few sessions booked,so get pics on one session and then hang onto your seat in another ;) lol

Perfect! Sounds awesome.

Adam
11-03-10, 06:14 PM
Todays work.
Got jiggy with the grinder
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/c9756b23.jpg
Carpet support binned

Roughly mark out the hole position and get cutting, with holesaw in my case.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/1e1845e1.jpg

Then on with the jigsaw, yes i cut the hole bigger than is needed tbh, but i dont want to find its too tight when i come to fitting the shifter....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/9b616af0.jpg

Need get some more cutting discs tomorrow so i can cut the side bits of the panel flush with the transmission tunnel. The shifter rod hole will be getting covered too, so didnt need be mega neat.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/f339b80d.jpg

Remove nova shifter and compare to the now cut-down astra one, as you can see with the kink removed, the astra shifter rod is too short!!!!
Which means im going have to weld the astra end piece back on, and then weld the end of the nova one onto that :roll: Lesson of the day is not use a astra shifter tbh, cally one seems to be more suitable.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/df84f9e2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/5dd13b98.jpg

Also chucked the bodies back on to see how they sit with the firewall gone
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/6e2da25d.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/b205b791.jpg

Looking good.

Whilst undoing the nova linkage clamp bolt i noticed the linkage seemed a bit damp/dirty, turns out it looked like cv grease, uh oh :roll:
Yep, the bastid boot has split in half, leaving the cv joint just bare :eek:
Fook knows how long its been like that for, hoping the joint isnt knackered and i can get away with new grease and boot. Yet another job to do! :cry:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/42cd85fd.jpg

Maybe lucky to spot it though tbh, dont want the joint letting go at 100mph.... :wtf:

More tomorrow hopefully.

Iain
11-03-10, 06:25 PM
You could just extend the shifter with the piece you cut out... I was mocking this up earlier and looks like it should work fine - just remove both the kinks.

Adam
11-03-10, 06:31 PM
How??? The piece i cut out to remove the kinks now means its too short?
If i weld those bits back in i'll just be "re-fitting" the kinks?

Iain
11-03-10, 06:43 PM
Cut the kinks off either end and weld in the straight piece between them dummy.

Or get a different shifter that'll only require 1 cut. :)

Adam
11-03-10, 06:45 PM
I think im going weld that 3rd piece back onto the astra shifter(the bit with the small diameter end), and then weld the end of the nova one onto that.......

Or find a calibra shifter

Benn
11-03-10, 07:54 PM
Good work dude.

Adam
12-03-10, 08:34 PM
Today went quite well!
Old bit lopped off
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/027ecdd9.jpg

Test fit shifter, rod fits through hole, looks well
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/280b5999.jpg

Flushed the side bits of the carpet support, seam sealed them, and primered
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/9606e038.jpg

Bit of sheet metal cut to plate over the hole
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/3259c794.jpg

Cracked out the welder, had to wind the power right down to stop it blowing holes, had to do a load of spots in some places, and then join them...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/5a473332.jpg

Sealed and primered again. Also extended the rod hole in the floor slightly, under guidance from Lionel.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/331768ce.jpg

Now, the reason you cant use a mk3 astra shifter lol
The end piece slides into the linkage, whereas a nova end piece slides OVER the linkage...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/69165982.jpg

So a quick markup on the floor, and a measure and have a plan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/5f568358.jpg

So did that. So good working on thick metal, wack the welder up full and go at it full bore!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/7935506b.jpg

Not 10000% straight, but im hoping i can correct that when i actually bolt the shifter down tomorrow. It all lines up on a "dry fit"

Looking good :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/6666a5b9.jpg

More tomorrow,hoping to have the shifter all fitted and working. And then can get back on fitting the bodies and Go-Tech.

John
12-03-10, 08:42 PM
Stop messing with the shifter, i want to see it running! lol

craig green
12-03-10, 08:45 PM
Can you get the lever turret further back than the std stick? It would be ideal as the std position favours grannies over lanky boyracers tbh, though the handbrake is then in the way of it .....

Adam
12-03-10, 08:45 PM
So do i lol

TBH though its a 20minute job to bolt the bodies on.

And about an hour will see the ecu in and wired up.....

So shouldnt be long tbh

Adam
12-03-10, 08:46 PM
Can you get the lever turret further back than the std stick? It would be ideal as the std position favours grannies over lanky boyracers tbh, though the handbrake is then in the way of it ..... You could put it wherever you wanted to mate.
But yeah handbrake will be a problem for 2nd/4th gear.
And if i mount it further back i wont be able get 5th because the "knob" hits the side of my seat before it gets over to the 5th position...

Already test fitted its position earlier on today

djbrowney
12-03-10, 10:25 PM
that piece of metal where you welded must be piss thin on all nova's bec i must have blown 10 ****ing holes in mine when i welded it up lol even if you used a corsa shifter that bolts up from underneath and the gear linkage is in the way to do it up :(

Benn
12-03-10, 10:28 PM
Why do you need the Nova end? Isn't the whole point of this ia to bin the linkage no?

MK999
12-03-10, 10:29 PM
Why do you need the Nova end? Isn't the whole point of this ia to bin the linkage no?

it moves the linkage above the floor so you can use the exhaust tunnel for an exhaust, the shifter still connects to the normal nova linkage via that slip coupling.

Benn
12-03-10, 10:33 PM
Sounds point less to be. All the ones i've seen connect to the box direct. To be that's the point, it removes all the slop from the linkage.

MK999
12-03-10, 10:37 PM
Sounds point less to be. All the ones i've seen connect to the box direct. To be that's the point, it removes all the slop from the linkage.

Can't say I've ever seen it done like that, must have not been looking... top idea though and I might have to look into it, my french diseasel pos has a better gear change on it!

Benn
12-03-10, 10:41 PM
No i'll edit that, its only Lee303 that's done it. Thought it was the whole point. (seen here http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/283840-lees-garage-11.html )

2others have the same as ad.

Adam
12-03-10, 10:42 PM
Sounds point less to be. All the ones i've seen connect to the box direct. To be that's the point, it removes all the slop from the linkage.
None of them connect directly to the box. Only one ive seen like that is with a HH linkage, which i THINK Lee Hearsey uses.
Doing it that way also means you have a send the shifter rod through the passenger footwell area iirc.

You still keep the original nova linkage/S, just that now a cav/astra shifter connects to it instead of the nova one....
Meaning i can rotate my exhaust up into the tunnel to stop it bottoming out (remember you said it looked broken? lol)
Thats the only real reason i did it, and its cost me nothing to do.

Browney-Yeah mate it is piss think, i dont think its even a mil thick lol

Benn
12-03-10, 10:44 PM
Yeah just been looking at this thread and seen its only him that's done it (see edit above)

Adam
12-03-10, 10:48 PM
Cool :)

discoinferno
13-03-10, 06:37 AM
good work mate, will look forward to seeing it running

Adam
13-03-10, 12:50 PM
Cheers :)

Adam
13-03-10, 07:56 PM
Didnt get that much done today.

Got the stick connected to the linkage, roughly lined up in neutral, and then marked the 4 holes out in the plate to bolt it down.
Holes drilled and bolts fitted temporarily
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/01ce834f.jpg

Removed again to paint the floor, quick blast of good 'ole satin black
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/ed97fc1e.jpg

Rebolted the shifter back in, and set the linkage with the help of a mate.
And all seems well :d
I did have to extend the cut in the bulkhead slightly because the rod was rubbing it in 1st/3rd gear.
So i opened it up a bit more, and then covered the hole with some rubber matting.

Last pic i got, everything refitted inside. Sorry about the quality due to me only having my phone on me, but you get the idea
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/41d567b7.jpg

All seems good, the stick moves in 6 different places, so it seems ok. Obviously i cant be sure until ive got a running engine.....
Definently got 1/2/3/4/R gears, but 3rd and 5th seem a bit "close" on the stick, so might need a re-adjustment when i get the thing running again.

Tomorrow on with the go-tech loom!!! Might even get the bodies properly bolted on too :)

Rich
13-03-10, 08:37 PM
Can you not lock the gearstick then lock the gearbox to set the linkage??

Adam
13-03-10, 08:49 PM
Like in Haynes? Yeah should be able to, i never usually do it that way tbh though. Neutral/Neutral method has never failed me

craig green
13-03-10, 08:54 PM
Good work Adam.
Neutral box & stick method has always worked for me too, often perfect 1st time.

Adam
13-03-10, 08:58 PM
I only set it today once, and it seems spot on. Beats pissing about with a drill bit and crap lol

Rich
13-03-10, 10:09 PM
How? lol

Alan key in gearstick, pop the pin in the gearbox and tighten bolt. That is perfect thats why its there

MK999
13-03-10, 10:12 PM
you need to explain this allen key bit to me, because the haynes method of push it so it's next to the 1st/2nd gate in neutral method took me a few attempts to get right lol

Rich
13-03-10, 10:32 PM
It wont work on a nova, but with the cav/calibra shifter theres a hole in the stick and hole in the surround you can fit an allen key/screwdriver in. So will hold the gearstick over the the left of neutral. Then on the box (looking from front of car) you push the linkage over to the right, put a drill bit (some boxes have a yellow sprung pin) into a hole in the turret, then move the linkage back towards the left the pin will lock it in place. Then tighten up the clamp and release the pins.

Means no need for a second person and lines up first time guarenteed

Adam
13-03-10, 10:36 PM
How? lol

Alan key in gearstick, pop the pin in the gearbox and tighten bolt. That is perfect thats why its there
If the gears dont seem right when i get the engine running,i'll give that method a go :thumb:

Rich
13-03-10, 10:49 PM
would be good to know if it still works in the nova with a cav shifter. I dont see why it wouldnt though

MK999
13-03-10, 10:54 PM
would be good to know if it still works in the nova with a cav shifter. I dont see why it wouldnt though

The fact it's not in quite the same place as it would be relative to the gearbox may throw it slightly (i'm thinking mounted at an angle and going straight up/down into gears making it more \ or / than | at the gearbox end) but other than that as long as it sets it at the 1st gate neutral position, it should be the same movements through the same linkage

Adam
13-03-10, 11:07 PM
I dont see why it wont work tbh.
The stick in neutral, is in neutral, no matter what car its in.
Withthe box locked in a gear, with the stick locked in the same gear, you're just clamping the two together via the linkage.... If you get me. So cant see anything stopping it from working.

peester
13-03-10, 11:49 PM
aye no more pv09 problems eh lad

Adam
14-03-10, 12:11 AM
Lets fooking hope not!! lol
That was a right nightmare, i drove down to Portsmouth from Pod using just 3rd and 4th gears lol

alistairolsen
14-03-10, 12:22 AM
It will work fine. tbh its an awesome system. the nova one isnt hard ether, against the left gate in the middl of its throw and hold it there.

scott.parker
14-03-10, 11:35 AM
Good going dude! you'll notice the difference mate..

Adam
14-03-10, 07:09 PM
Rich, that method does work :)
Never noticed the hole in the shifter rod and in the case before today lol

Bit of an update.
Shifter done and dusted for good hopefully
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/22b48632.jpg

Then fitted the inlet up to the head to see how well it matches the inlet ports, looks fine and has no steps, so that'll do for me.
Hello Mr Valves
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/794bccf4.jpg

Soooo, got the bodies bolted to the inlet and put them on, noticed an issue though, when i swung the alternator back to tighten the belt the alternator casing was fouling the underside of no1 body :(
Out came Gary to the rescue, it dont foul no more lol lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/a12842ee.jpg

Bodies on for good, XE creams fitted, throttle linkage and cable fitted. All is good
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/6cb2646a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/65418cdf.jpg

Just need to mount the pressure regulator somewhere, dont fancy drilling holes so may just cable tie its mount plate around the strut brace or something for now..... :)

Tomorrow, get the TPS/CTS/Crank sensor plugs soldered back onto the Go-Tech loom, and hopefully get the loom in. Need sort the wiring for the fuel pump relay/fan relay etc too. Hoping i can get all the wiring done tomorrow!!!!!

Mazz
14-03-10, 07:26 PM
Gary the grinder lol

Good work Ad, shouldn't be long now..

Benn
14-03-10, 07:38 PM
Looking good dude. Sure i've had to shave that bit off an alt before too..

Adam
14-03-10, 08:20 PM
I wouldnt of had to if i had a shorter alternator belt, its just with the alternator being on a pivot kind of bracket, if lifts up as it moves back....

Easy solution though :cool:

Adam
15-03-10, 04:06 PM
Go-Tech loom is now sorted and all spot on accoridng to the multi meter. Just got the loom fitted in the car, layout seems spot on, so im happy :)

Just need to actually wire the loom into the car tomorrow and mount the ecu somewhere. Probably bolt it to the underside of the dash, or around the roll cage leg :)

Oh and need wire up some relays too, one for fuel pump, one for ecu 12v, and tother for rad fan. :d

alistairolsen
16-03-10, 08:33 AM
Sounds good, weirdly looking forward to a power figure even though experience means its probably within 10bhp or so of my guess :P

Mazz
16-03-10, 05:47 PM
Which is?!

Adam
16-03-10, 05:53 PM
Which is ZERO atm lol

Having some issues, the GoTech isnt getting any rpm signal when cranking. I know the crank sensor works because its the same one ive always had....

Apart from that issue everything is spot on, tps/air temp/cts all look acceptable figures, fuel pump comes on with ignition etc.
Its just not going to do a lot if it thinks the engine isnt being cranked.
HMMMM, not sure what to try TBH

peester
16-03-10, 07:48 PM
hmmm been there mate lol.
mine fired today; see electrical in technical
ill have a think about that cranking prob

Adam
16-03-10, 07:59 PM
I THINK i know what the issue is.

Had a search on mig and turns out another guy was having the same problem, he had to file down the crank sensor bracket to get the sensor sitting stupidly close to the trigger teeth. Easy solution on a small block because its all externally mounted...
That sorted his problem straight away.


Not so easy on a xe where the crank sensor points inside the crankcase and bolts to a cast iron block:cry::cry:

Mazz
16-03-10, 09:10 PM
Bugger.... :wall:

Benn
16-03-10, 09:12 PM
Cant you shave some off the bottom of the sensors case?

Linch
16-03-10, 09:14 PM
I THINK i know what the issue is.

Had a search on mig and turns out another guy was having the same problem, he had to file down the crank sensor bracket to get the sensor sitting stupidly close to the trigger teeth. Easy solution on a small block because its all externally mounted...
That sorted his problem straight away.


Not so easy on a xe where the crank sensor points inside the crankcase and bolts to a cast iron block:cry::cry:

I had this problem too, dont file your crank sensor we tried this, ended up buying a new one. after some further research it turned out it needed re flashed with new firmware.

This was the reason I didnt make pvs 08 lol

Adam
16-03-10, 09:28 PM
Where did you get the new firmware from Linch???
Ive got a V6 ecu.

I was going file the crank sensor :(
Nothing really else i can do TBH??

I dont know anyone with GoTech on a xe/let either so cant ask what they did. Everyone seems to have used it on small block 16v's

Looked in the Go-Tech manual and it says "Crank sensor air gap must be no more than 0.3mm", apparently a std xe trigger/sensor gap is like 1mm+

Damo
17-03-10, 07:52 AM
Where did you get the new firmware from Linch???
Ive got a V6 ecu.

I was going file the crank sensor :(
Nothing really else i can do TBH??

I dont know anyone with GoTech on a xe/let either so cant ask what they did. Everyone seems to have used it on small block 16v's

Looked in the Go-Tech manual and it says "Crank sensor air gap must be no more than 0.3mm", apparently a std xe trigger/sensor gap is like 1mm+

Is there no other crank sensor off any other vauxhall you can try ad that sit any closer perhaps off 8v small block?

Adam
17-03-10, 11:28 AM
Going up there in a bit to try swapping the crank sensor wires round.
And if that dont work going try filing the sensor slightly to try and get it sitting nearer to the trigger.

Thats what Broster from jamsport has suggested anyways.

Riggy
17-03-10, 11:59 AM
just goy myself up to date with it all ad , looking very good mate , goin to be more of a weapon this year :thumb:

discoinferno
17-03-10, 01:32 PM
why not get your bottom pullet machined to give you the 60-2 triggerpattern mount the sensor then as close or as far away as you like! its what they have to do on autronic as that refuses to work on the xe/let internal; trigger setups

Adam
17-03-10, 04:48 PM
Cheers Riggy.

Discoinferno-That is an option mate yeah, just annoying how it SHOULD work and its not lol
But saying that i dont know anyone with a let/xe on GoTech, so maybe they all have issues with internal trigger discs.
It is something bare in mind though.

discoinferno
17-03-10, 05:41 PM
Cheers Riggy.

Discoinferno-That is an option mate yeah, just annoying how it SHOULD work and its not lol
But saying that i dont know anyone with a let/xe on GoTech, so maybe they all have issues with internal trigger discs.
It is something bare in mind though.

there are only 3 people i know to try run them on let's and all got rid without getting it running!

nic barnes did manage to get his running but not well
adam on mig web his mate tried fitting it to cav turbo without success
and don greening on migweb also tried to get his corsa running on it and failed, all reverted to std management apart from nick who opted for the k3 and worked fine using std trigger disc

Adam
17-03-10, 07:47 PM
Sounds quite a familiar problem then!! lol

I keep hearing someone whispering to me "Fit a LET on evo5" :roll: lol

Got a few pics on the way, nothings happening like but it at least looks ok pmsl lol

Adam
17-03-10, 08:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/49b19e90.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/e58b31a7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/cc120e86.jpg

Also tried on the gte front end, bit 50/50 at the minute, when the bumper etc is resprayed though it will look cool IMO!
Naked, but minty mint front!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/8d5ec51c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/e871562a.jpg

General Baxter
17-03-10, 08:02 PM
NO ADAM, on the bumper
it might be passable, if you do what i did with mine, black blue black

Adam
17-03-10, 08:04 PM
I did say i was 50/50, theres something about it that i dont like. Maybe a body coloured grill would look better...

John
17-03-10, 08:06 PM
bumper looks well imo ad!

Linch
17-03-10, 08:12 PM
If you give Mark a call at Jamsport and ask him, It was that long ago I cant remember what it was, We had the same problem though, a new crank sensor and new firmware sorted it, Mine is a v6 too, but I remember having to re flash it....should have bought omex :P haha

Adam
17-03-10, 08:32 PM
Mark already knows the issues after he replied to my thread on MIG.

SRimon
17-03-10, 08:59 PM
Like the bumper Ad.

Side strips would need to go IMO for it to "work" though?

Adam
17-03-10, 09:02 PM
Yeah i know what you mean mate. Only issue is there clip on, meaning im going be left with clips/holes down the side of the car. Was thinking of just removing them, painting them bumper colour and refitting.....

Damo
17-03-10, 09:10 PM
I think the bumpers would go well with the mouldings ad i like the bumpers in the colour they are already what colour was you thinking of doing them?

Adam
17-03-10, 09:22 PM
Similar colour tbh, actually probably the same colour as the front is now lol

Damo
17-03-10, 09:28 PM
Similar colour tbh, actually probably the same colour as the front is now lol

I think it would go then mate IMO if you removed the mouldings the side would look too bold they kind of break up the colour if you know what i mean lol.

allysr
18-03-10, 01:47 AM
5 hours later ive read the whole thread! serious amount of work on both cars, love it :D

Lee H
18-03-10, 07:25 AM
Bumper looks loads better. How about painting below the side rub strips as well SR style, that would work.

Damo
18-03-10, 07:41 AM
Bumper looks loads better. How about painting below the side rub strips as well SR style, that would work.

Yea agreed ^^^^ that would tie everything in IMO too.

vaughanmc
18-03-10, 09:54 AM
Looks good with the later SR front end :)

Southie
18-03-10, 10:01 AM
Looking Good Adam, just thought I'd help you with a few colour ideas. :)

GRILL ONLY

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/AdambumperSRideaGRILL.jpg


FULL FRONT

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/AdambumperSRideaFULLFRONT.jpg


BUMPER ONLY

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/AdambumperSRideaBUMPERONLY.jpg


VALENCE ONLY

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/shoppery/AdambumperSRideaBUMPERBOTTOMONLY.jpg

alistairolsen
18-03-10, 03:36 PM
I prefer it as it is now tbh

Adam
18-03-10, 04:54 PM
Cheers for the 'shops Southie. Still preferring the all dark front end.
Vinyl down the sides is a good plan although ive never really been a fan of it, no vinyl/sidestrips looks better IMO, but my strips are staying so i'll have to think about what do.

Still no go on the GoTech, beginning to pi** me off now tbh

discoinferno
18-03-10, 04:58 PM
Cheers for the 'shops Southie. Still preferring the all dark front end.
Vinyl down the sides is a good plan although ive never really been a fan of it, no vinyl/sidestrips looks better IMO, but my strips are staying so i'll have to think about what do.

Still no go on the GoTech, beginning to pi** me off now tbh

another unhappy go tech customer just sell it and get something half decent, seriously megasquirt is better than that

try the mtech automotive v4 mate awesome ecu

scott.parker
18-03-10, 05:27 PM
Sorry to here about the go tech issues dude, as for the front end, i like the look of it...BUT it makes your car look less street sleeper, and i liked the early sleeper look yours was/is pulling off with the normal bumper on.
Just my opinion.

Scott

Adam
18-03-10, 05:31 PM
Disco-Ive got a few more things to try before writing it off, cheers to Mark B @ Jamsport for his advice.

Scott-Yeah i get exactly what you mean mate, but im a bit bored of the look atm, so need do something change it.... :)

General Baxter
18-03-10, 05:53 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/nova%20saloon/frontblue.jpg

scott.parker
18-03-10, 05:53 PM
IF you want something different, try the early style grill the count had on his saloon, the square checked one, and the GTE bumper but not painted, just looks gash to me! lol

The Simps
18-03-10, 06:16 PM
Maybe it needs a pin strip through the bumper, trims & rear bumper?

I prefer the bumper. I wouldn't paint it.

Adam
18-03-10, 07:24 PM
I have a red pinstripe all round...

If i fitted the gte front that would be getting a red stripe too :)

Ste L
18-03-10, 08:32 PM
keep the gte/sr front, look's much better, and get the GTE rear bumper flick too :)

Benn
18-03-10, 08:33 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/e871562a.jpg


Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes oh i've cum.

Gotta say i'd mount the ecu in the kick panel bit. Does seem good having it sitting on the floor like that.

Adam
18-03-10, 08:33 PM
Thats the plan Ste :)

Benn, yeah mate when/if i get the ecu working its getting bolted to the kick panel :)

Ste L
18-03-10, 08:34 PM
Thats the plan Ste :)
:cool:

defo has to be done

discoinferno
19-03-10, 01:39 PM
i would put it on the shelf under the dash having it on the floor un protected is asking for trouble imo

Adam
19-03-10, 03:08 PM
I have no shelf under the dash......

Its getting bolted to the side kick panel... :)

Adam
19-03-10, 05:36 PM
Ive got a rpm reading, ive got a rpm reading!!!!

[ does girly dance lol /]

And ive got 4 bar fuel pressure. Its not firing up yet though, either injectors aint doing there thing, or im going no spark. Will have to have another look when it aint pissing down.

Iain
19-03-10, 05:59 PM
Pics/vids of said dance required. Good to hear you're making progress, I can't wait to drive it (please!). :)

Mazz
19-03-10, 06:01 PM
cool, nice dude - bet you can't wait!

General Baxter
19-03-10, 06:03 PM
i think it went like this lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uezJfTG9ELI&feature=related

Adam
19-03-10, 06:13 PM
Lmao /\ lol

Just got get the bastid running now!!!!!

discoinferno
19-03-10, 06:22 PM
what did you do file the blcok /sensor to get it sitting closer to the trigger wheel?

Adam
19-03-10, 06:25 PM
Filed the f**k out the sensor mate, hope the sensor never dies as i cba do it to another sensor!!!

If you look at the sensor, it has like a rib on it just before the flat edge where the bolt hole is, ive basically filed that totally flat.

discoinferno
19-03-10, 06:41 PM
what rpm is it reading on cranking? it will need to be over 300rpm before the injectors etc will try to fire if its anything like the emerald

Adam
19-03-10, 06:51 PM
Ive got the 2 green led's flashing on the ecu, 1 is coilpack out and one is injector output, Sooooo both the coilpack and injectors should be firing.

I was getting around the 200rpm mark, battery needs another charge though as i was cranking a while trying get it working with the metal crank sensor....

discoinferno
19-03-10, 06:56 PM
oh ok should fire up soon then :)

Adam
19-03-10, 06:59 PM
I can smell fuel around the bodies, so i think im either getting no spark, or its sparking at the wrong time

Adam
20-03-10, 06:09 PM
Was pissing down today, and im hungover so didnt get much done.
Did get the plugs out though, they arent soaking in fuel, but they smell "fuelly"
It aint been run for 2week so i doubt you would still smell fuel on the plugs by now.... So i think the injectors are firing.

Checked for a spark with a timing light and im getting nothing from the light, maybe its just too weak to trigger the strobe, or i am just getting no spark. I do get one flash from the light the second i stop cranking, so im thinking maybe the 12v feed to the dispak isnt staying 12v when you crank, hence i get a spark when i stop cranking....
So tomorrows plan is wire a new 12v ign feed straight to the dispak, and see if that helps.....
If it doesnt, then im running out of things to try.

peester
20-03-10, 06:55 PM
ad when i used spark testy things it flashed bright with ignition arming; but then weekly on cranking - but then my prob was a weak/slow cranking..
injectors.. hmm. u turned it over/cranked it with plugs out but connected..?

Adam
20-03-10, 07:12 PM
Ive just had a thought and im now 99% sure i know why it isnt sparking.
WHAT A DAFT ****!! lol lol lol

peester
20-03-10, 07:14 PM
your doing it wrong lol

John
20-03-10, 07:16 PM
Ive just had a thought and im now 99% sure i know why it isnt sparking.
WHAT A DAFT ****!! lol lol lol

spill!!!!

Adam
20-03-10, 07:17 PM
I bought a X20XEV coilpack a while back and had planned on using that. Its a Siemens coilpack and has 4 pins
Pin 1-Coil1
2-Coil2
3-12v
4-Unused

So i sorted the gotech loom out, wired up the coilpack plug for the above

I ASSUMED the coilpack was same as a C20xe one, so because i knew my xe one was 100% working i kept it fitted and intended on using it. Turns out a XE one is a Bosch THREE pin item and wired totally different lol lol
1-Coil 1
2-12v
3-Coil 2

So the dispak ive got fitted atm has 12v going to it on the WRONG pin.
Checked the nova coilpack earlier, it is indeed a 3pin bosch, just checked my Astra one and its a 4pin Siemens. WOOPS :roll:

BASTID lol lol lol

peester
20-03-10, 07:20 PM
killing those brains cells one by one eh

Adam
20-03-10, 07:26 PM
Lesson learned, dont assume things :roll:
In my defence, the coilpacks do look identical :p lol

peester
20-03-10, 07:31 PM
yeah yeah, like u do with women lol

Adam
20-03-10, 07:32 PM
lol lol

discoinferno
20-03-10, 08:37 PM
the std xe coilpack has an ignition amplifier as well mate??????

just use the x20xev coilpack job done

Adam
20-03-10, 08:40 PM
Only x14/16xes have internal amps. (4wires)

Xe's or Ecos dont and use external modules.
The ECO pack has a 4th pin, but it isnt used and is wired internally to the 3rd pin, so has no purpose.

discoinferno
20-03-10, 08:42 PM
Only x14/16xes have internal amps. (4wires)

Xe's or Ecos dont and use external modules.
The ECO pack has a 4th pin, but it isnt used and is wired internally to the 3rd pin, so has no purpose.

no the ecotec coilpacks dont have amplifiers external! i ve used one on my nova, 1.2 16v corsa coilpacks also work well,

Adam
20-03-10, 08:46 PM
If you are using a 2.0 16v ecotec coilpack/SBD coilpack with your emerald, its the ignition drivers inside the emerald that are firing the coils. (External amps as they arent inside the coil pack itself)

Internally amped coils have 4 wires...... And the coilpacks have a big heatsink on the back of them too :)

John
20-03-10, 08:49 PM
doh, running tommorow then?

Adam
20-03-10, 08:52 PM
Disco-
Corsa/Tigra Internal amped coilpack
http://i.ebayimg.com/16/%21BSMZ1uw%212k%7E$%28KGrHgoH-DMEjlLltmFiBKB9hJh%29i%21%7E%7E_12.JPG

XE/Eco coilpack (identical bar they are wired up differently), xe ones only have 3 pins though, xev have 4 but the 4th pin does nothing. :)
http://www.mtechautomotive.co.uk/guides/images/thumb/VXCoilpack.jpg/300px-VXCoilpack.jpg

XE pack
http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!BjwkzzwBGk~$(KGrHqQH-DwEs-pIEZygBLU1efBN2g~~_12.JPG




John, hopefully mate :d

discoinferno
20-03-10, 08:56 PM
Disco-
Corsa/Tigra Internal amped coilpack
http://i.ebayimg.com/16/%21BSMZ1uw%212k%7E$%28KGrHgoH-DMEjlLltmFiBKB9hJh%29i%21%7E%7E_12.JPG

XE/Eco coilpack (identical bar they are wired up differently), xe ones only have 3 pins though, xev have 4 but the 4th pin does nothing. :)
http://www.mtechautomotive.co.uk/guides/images/thumb/VXCoilpack.jpg/300px-VXCoilpack.jpg




John, hopefully mate :d

i know what the difference between a 1.4 16v ecotec and an xe coilpack are
lets agree to disagree hope you get it running soon!

i ve run a ford coilpack also which is 3 wire, and internally amp'd

Adam
20-03-10, 08:57 PM
Ok lets leave it there then... lol
(BTW a 3pin coilpack cant be internally amp'd because its only got 3wires...)


BUT anyway, yeah should be running tomorrow :) :)

Linch
21-03-10, 10:55 AM
What map are you useing?

Adam
21-03-10, 05:52 PM
The one you sent me mate, dont have any more i can try do you??

Quick update anyway, today it RAN :cool:
For about 8seconds, then died and wont restart now. It seemed to run fine though, i made the mistake of easing off the throttle which made the revs die off!!!
But now it will not restart. So i think i definently have fuel and spark now anyway.

I have another issues now, after it died and when i tried restart i noticed the crank signal keeps dropping out to 0rpm!! So i think thats explaining why it wont fire back up. The rpm signal is going 220rpm,0rpm,216rpm,0rpm etc etc. Thinking it might just be down to the battery running low due to me cranking it so much!!

Heres a log file i got, you can clearly see the rpm keeps dropping, which cuts the injector output, hence it not starting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/fc89e91c.jpg

HMMM

Linch
22-03-10, 01:32 AM
Your using my map, that could be the reason, crack trigger divide will be totally different mate.

It will need all the ignition timing changing too.

Glad it runs though :)

peester
22-03-10, 07:20 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Nova-crew/B571%20HTV%20WIP/fc89e91c.jpg

HMMM

any DOS-based mapping sofware gen? lol

Adam
22-03-10, 03:26 PM
Your using my map, that could be the reason, crack trigger divide will be totally different mate.

It will need all the ignition timing changing too.

Glad it runs though :)
The crank trigger is a good point, but because i cant see the trigger wheel its something i cant change without seeing a XE map/XE bare engine......

Ignition timing is set around 15deg, should be ok for idle-1500rpm.


Dave lol
Actually the software is easy to use once you start remember the keys, and it does the job, to a point.

Adam
27-03-10, 04:06 PM
Bit of a lack of an update lol
Its still dead, and im quickly losing interest/cba'ness in it tbh lol

Someone give me one good reason why i shouldnt fit a LET, because i cant think of one :)



I did do a bit of work on the astra earlier when the nova was pissing me off, got the GSi headlamps and 6k HIDs in, pics later!!!

Benn
27-03-10, 04:13 PM
*tilts head back.. move hand to and from mouth shouting" turbbbbbooooooooo"*

Rich
27-03-10, 04:28 PM
because you will will probably have more hassle with the let and cost a lotlot more lol

but fit a let anyway

Mazz
27-03-10, 04:35 PM
carbs Ad, no electrics :)

Adam
27-03-10, 04:42 PM
Mazz-Carbs can stay in the museum.

Rich-Nah, it will be reliable IMO.
Not going silly, standard turbo or a TD05 evo turbo, standard inlet etc. Big tophat, good sized boost pipes, nice sized IC. EVO5 chips but keep the boost down to 10-15psi, would be v. happy with 250-260bhp. Standard management FTW
I cant see no reason why it wont be reliable.

TBH when you consider even if i get my xe running now, ive already got put away £300-£400 for mapping....
Save that, sell the bodies and management, and sell my xe, id be in profit me thinks ;)

Rich
27-03-10, 04:52 PM
run on an f20 or f28 though? :)

Adam
27-03-10, 04:59 PM
If the LET comes with a F28, then F28.
If i build a bare engine/build one, F20....

Ive got a spare box anyway, would just see how it goes tbh