ive just read xe nova's are dog slow

[DEAN-DOHERTY]

xe nova there dog slow golf diesels are quicker.

i hope this is far from correct or i am going to be well pissed off in the next few days when i get my now xe'd nova out of the garage

[Damo]

XE novas are not slow mate.

[R1CH]

10 year ago they were seen as pretty rapid, there still quick but most decent hot hatchs will nail them now a days, and probly most diesels !! lol

[DEAN-DOHERTY]

150bhp in a tin can, i wouldnt of thought so

[Connor]

lol at this thread

[Damo]

150bhp in a tin can, i wouldnt of thought so

But alot wont be 150bhp now due to wear most will be round 135-140 mark unless theyve been rebuilt but as rich said there fast but not as quick as some new stuff.

[Mieran]

Thing about XEs that they're all different, I've had 4 and non of them felt the same

Nova XE is not slow btw, do you want me to make a list of the cars I've embarrassed? lol

[Spudly]

Ive overtaken a stationary milkfloat in my old xe, was well fast lol

[General Baxter]

they are

[Damo]

Ive overtaken a stationary milkfloat in my old xe, was well fast lol

^^ flol.

+ rep for sheer daftness.

[Sloth]

if it isNT NIPPY ENOUGH ADD LAUGHING GAS,

[Spudly]

Theyre quick but the thing is you expect it to be mind blowingly fast, but theyre not, theyre not slow but will never keep up with the starship enterprise, and rather a lot of stuff these days will, so in comparison to other cars they are slow to a degree, if that makes sense lol

[DEAN-DOHERTY]

new stuff is expensice tho, my mates drive 1.2 corsa c,1.4 opel astra, 1.2 5door merit nova, 1.2 corsa c

the likes of that wont stand a chance

mate has a redtop corsa b which could give me a good run
other mate has a glanza so that shall be interesting

and then the new hot hatch's you are on about (civic type r 200bhp) but come on the guts of 7k no wonder its bloody quick.

the rest of the town is derv power. big heavy lump!

[General Baxter]

theyre not slow but will never keep up with the starship enterprise,

well i dont like to tell you but.............................................




.......................... 1.2?

[pie]

:lol: spud

[Lee]

Its all relative. New hot hatches are way more powerful, but on the flip side are a lot bigger and heavier.

Thats why an XE feels fast and a MK5 golf GTi feels slow, when in reality the golf would probably have the nova.

But a diesel wouldn't IMO lol

[General Baxter]

i bet my work van would give one a good go lol

[DEAN-DOHERTY]

well ill let you all know my outcome of this when the nova gets on the road hopefully within the next 48 hours

[General Baxter]

180bhp, 400ftLb, 4motion, 6speed, scares the crap out of me lol

[Mieran]

From 0 to the end of 4th gear (you figure out the speed ;)) my blue Nova was ahead of a E46 M3, then he overtook

In the red Nova I made a new focus ST look like he wasn't even trying lol

[wwmnw]

XE Nova's are that slow they are one of the top two conversions in a Nova :thumb:.

[Lee]

XE Nova's are that slow they are one of the top two conversions in a Nova :thumb:.

Ahh, but this is only because the Nova has a small block as standard.

Which means its slower than an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping :)

[MiniManDan118]

I've got a 2ltr bmw e46 150 bhp petrol and it has absolutely no chance against our xe Nova. I will challenge said person to a race round castle combe in their diesel if they want. Lighter car will handle better too, and no stupid turbo lag. Not to mention having an engine that doesn't run out of puff at 3500rpm.....

[DEAN-DOHERTY]

ok this is starting to put the smile back on my face. looking forward to getting the xe put in tomorow then ill go see what deisel golfs beat me lol

[Mieran]

da smile lol

[AlanH]

nova_stee[/B]]slow xe's
erm....no!
270bhp calibra turbo (ash off clubcalibra, check pvs09 thread) focus st, mk5 golf gti, impreza wrx, civic type r (05), yamaha 600 diversion, 1.1 punto (lol at the idiot who tried) who the feck told you a golf diesel would beat one? unless heavily modified you sir are a bell-end

[DEAN-DOHERTY]

bellend lol lol....makes me laugh after watching "balls of steel" last night. anyone watch it they will know what im laughing about

[steviegsi]

Don't worry mate... I promise you will be a happy boy once you push the loud pedal for the first few times. Providing your engine is a fit one of course.

[Rick Draper]

XE novas are not slow mate.

They are not fast either.

[Ernie]

now an xe on itb's hummmmm.

[bazil]

Those redtop Varients are the devils work I tell you!!
Keep it small block ftw just simply add boooost lol

[davidfox280585]

id say there not slow if you spend lots of money,i definately put my audi 2.2 ton derv against mine and its only a 163bhp one

[Ernie]

taking on 400bhp evos around castle combe is a right laugh..

[Lee H]

I was disappointed with mine when I first did it, took it out and fitted a LET within 6 months.

Had 4 more as daily drivers since and they are ok for that but don't believe the hype!

[General Baxter]

I was disappointed with mine when I first did it, took it out and fitted a LET within 6 months.

yeah but whats been on the road more
Xe or with the LET in lol

[Ernie]

+ rep added GB lol

[BongMong]

stupid question.. comical answers..

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nova+trackday&aq=f

[Benn]

they are

Yours was, cause you built it. So it broke down all the time...

[Lee H]

yeah but whats been on the road more
Xe or with the LET in lol

The LET actually, was my daily driver for 18 months.

[Jack]

I was disappointed with mine when I first did it, took it out and fitted a LET within 6 months.
Same here, got bored of my XE well within a year so we put the V6 in :d

I think it depends what you're used to. Lots of people with 1.2's have upgraded to XE's, so in comparison the latter feels like its got a gazillion horsepower. Especially when you race that parked up Evo VIII

They're good in the right hands, and make great cheap track cars, but you can't just put one on the road and expect it to outrun everything, especially modern diesels.

[Alex J]

xe are slow.

[L14MNP]

If you're expecting to hammer modern cars, then think again. Most of the TD stuff will tear you a new one, and as for current hot hatches, not a chance IMO.

As for showing stuff up and destroying it, which I think is what you're after, you will have to stick to your mates 1200 Corsas etc and the odd person in something with a bit of poke that can't drive. Oh yeah, and don't be a total tool on the roads please!

Not quick, and not slow best sums them up I reckon. If you aren't already aware, you will see how much engine development has come on this last decade or so. An XE Nova no longer puts you at an advantage in the traffic light grand prix. In a lot of cases it will be just the opposite.

I'm sure you will still have plenty of fun though!


Additional: I agree that the power band on diesels is horrendous, but expecting to beat a 150BHP TDi Golf with 200+ ib ft torque is a tall order. SDi, no problem. lol

[tommy8252]

A modern hot hatch/TD is plump and cushiony and has loads of sound proofing but is fast. A big engined nova is small, hard, loud, rattly and slower than modern hot hatches etc.. But you feel your going like the clappers in the nova because its jolting every single sense you have. A modern car doesn't do that you just sit there and glance at the speedo thinking ooops I should really slow down from 140mph.

[nova_stee]

erm....no!
270bhp calibra turbo (ash off clubcalibra, check pvs09 thread) focus st, mk5 golf gti, impreza wrx, civic type r (05), yamaha 600 diversion, 1.1 punto (lol at the idiot who tried) who the feck told you a golf diesel would beat one? unless heavily modified you sir are a bell-end
Who said turbo i said xe and listen prick my opion is xe are slow just like other people in this thread and also the glof gttdi 170 are quick for a cement mixer engine when chiped.
Also dont expect to be the earth in a xe nova because you wont.

[davidfox280585]

so to sum it up really you should be happy if your upgrading just dont expect it to warpspeed i think i had more fun in my 1.4 sr to be honest and definately had more fun in my corsa td, im looking into a v6 or turbo instead now and it was only on road a month

[davidfox280585]

lol at 600 diversion though alan, i could walk faster than one of those

[Sloth]

hang on whos got a divvy?

[L14MNP]

so to sum it up really you should be happy if your upgrading just dont expect it to warpspeed i think i had more fun in my 1.4 sr to be honest and definately had more fun in my corsa td, im looking into a v6 or turbo instead now and it was only on road a month

My 14 SR was dog slow lol. I used to get whooped by a mates Punto Sporting! Bloody Pierburg... lol

As for TDi rivals, if we're talking the 170 Golf then an LET is gonna have it's hands full, never mind an XE. lol

[AlanH]

Who said turbo i said xe and listen prick my opion is xe are slow just like other people in this thread and also the glof gttdi 170 are quick for a cement mixer engine when chiped.
Also dont expect to be the earth in a xe nova because you wont.
When did i say mine was a turbo? moron. i said i beat a calibra turbo(pv09), and have the vids to prove it. My xe wasnt that far off standard either, sbd manifold, ap clutch and few other small tweaks, nothing major. I agree that they arent earth shattering in comparison to modern cars but they arent exactly slow either. i ran mine for 2 months then converted to LET power as mines just a weekend toy and it just wasnt enough, good for a daily runaround or with a few £ thrown at the engine an awesome track toy. out of interest jack how does the V6 compare to the XE? doing a v6 conversion for a mate in a few weeks, be gutted if it keeps up with my let :roll:

[AlanH]

hang on whos got a divvy?
not guilty! this is me at cadwell on my R1.(i'll happily race said diesel golf on this;) )
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii227/alanhughes87/mtnwheelie2.jpg
got a zxr400 trackbike as well. i raced a lad on a divvy600 in my xe nova lol

[Alex J]

Who said turbo i said xe and listen prick my opion is xe are slow just like other people in this thread and also the glof gttdi 170 are quick for a cement mixer engine when chiped.
Also dont expect to be the earth in a xe nova because you wont. someone up for a ban? its a car thread, not a fight down the pub!!

[CP]

Us small block owners have known for a long time that all 2.0l Novas are as slow as fcuk

[B16_OJB]

ive got a tuned clio 197 and stripped.

its about the same speed wise

[B16_OJB]

A modern hot hatch/TD is plump and cushiony and has loads of sound proofing but is fast. A big engined nova is small, hard, loud, rattly and slower than modern hot hatches etc.. But you feel your going like the clappers in the nova because its jolting every single sense you have. A modern car doesn't do that you just sit there and glance at the speedo thinking ooops I should really slow down from 140mph.

thats what i notice when i drive my nova then my clio 197!!

:thumb:

[John]

flol at this thread. You can't really compare the two tbf. A modern 170 brake golf tdi will nail an xe nova, but it's hardly a fair comparison! Try vs an xe corsa!

[Spudly]

ive got a tuned clio 197 and stripped.

its about the same speed wise



Then you my friend, either have the fastest XE nova in history (or its heavily tuned) or the slowest 197 in history!

[B16_OJB]

Then you my friend, either have the fastest XE nova in history (or its heavily tuned) or the slowest 197 in history!

haha

its probably just that the nova makes you feel like your gunna die lol

[Spudly]

haha

its probably just that the nova makes you feel like your gunna die lol



That is more beleivable to be fair bud, i work for a renault mainstealer and although ive not given any 197's a thrashing, ive been in a few of them and know how the power is delivered, and ive been passenger in a car thats raced a couple, plus ive had my own xe nova, and been in plenty so i know for a fact a 197 even in standard trim will run rings round an xe :p

[blue_peg_16v]

when i was 19 and had my first xe nova they were a bloody quick car but that was 12 years ago (my standard xe finished 3rd in the na upto 2000cc class at yourk a few times behind dave dixons and phil lofthouses carbed and camed xes) when it was the time of 205s and rs1800s, i got bored of mine though and added 48 webers a bit of head work and cams with sbd manifolds and managed to get 197bhp which was fun for a bit then got bored again so went let and jesus is there a difference mine has the eds phase 3 kit with adjustable boost in the car but due to the torque even on standard boost (about 200bhp) it makes the modded xe look like a snail but whang that nob round to full boost and everything goes blurie.

If its not quick enough you can alway tweek the xe or get a let you have the main conversion bits now you have done the xe and tbf in winter ice and crappy weather the xe will be more than enough

[blue_peg_16v]

ooops double postie

[Jack]

out of interest jack how does the V6 compare to the XE? doing a v6 conversion for a mate in a few weeks, be gutted if it keeps up with my let :roll:
V6 will vomit all over an XE in a straight line. When you come to a corner.... eeerrrrmmm next lol

I did find with my XE that if you tiptoed round a corner it handled like a fat elephant and understeered all over the place. But if you planted it, the front wheels dragged it round and it actually handled pretty well. I have yet to try this with the V6 as I'm not brave enough lol

As for against a LET - not sure, I've not come across one in the V6. It should be relatively even, considering the V6 is roughly 210bhp/200lbft, and the LET around 200/210.

Mine is a 3.0 though; a std 2.5 is only 167/166, so whilst that should still hammer an XE it won't be as clear cut.

[blue_peg_16v]

when i had the standard xe i raced a standard 2.5 v6 powered nova at york and there was very little in it he just got me by a bonnet length over the quarter of a mile

[Edd]

dont think there slow, just dont go round corners like a nova should FACT

[bainyboy sr]

i am sick of seeing threads like this saying xe novas are slow, folk that say this have either not had one or cant drive one , i hvae a list of cars mine has beat they are fast conversation over i own one

[Gareth_C]

I think to sum up its each to there own on this. I have a diesel insignia 160bhp and that will shift so diesel of this day and age are quick but if you compared the xe nova to a diesel car of it era then what would come out. I think you will always find a quicker faster car out there but its about the fun of driving it really. But for a N/a 2000cc there are canny cars to use i take mine to york york quite regularly and as of yet bar turbo'd cars I havent been beaten as yet (touch wood) :thumb:

[dougie_boi]

theres enough in them to honk a standard wrx tried and tested with a bog standard xe

[Jack]

i am sick of seeing threads like this saying xe novas are slow, folk that say this have either not had one or cant drive one , i hvae a list of cars mine has beat they are fast conversation over i own one
Nay, pretty much everyone who says they're slow has owned one at some point.

[edit] When I say slow, I mean the "not slow, but not fast" statement.

[MK999]

theres enough in them to honk a standard wrx tried and tested with a bog standard xe

Can do that with a 1.6 8v too, it depends what WRX it is lol

[GRUNT 16V]

nova xe slow !!!!!!!!!! lol
who ever said that needs a kick in the bolloxs !!!!!!!!

[Edd]

nova xe slow !!!!!!!!!! lol
who ever said that needs a kick in the bolloxs !!!!!!!!

true

there still crap tho lol alright in a straight line but utter turd in corners

[Jack]

nova xe slow !!!!!!!!!! lol
who ever said that needs a kick in the bolloxs !!!!!!!!
Should I not recount that time I passed you and Craig on the A30 in the GT4 going round a corner then? :p

I've only got one bollock so a light tap in the nut will do thanks :d

[pikey1986]

im building my big block xe as a weekend/back road/track car, ive only ever been in 1 car with an xe and that was a gte astra, i was grinning like a cheshire cat and loved the drive home but then im used to driving a dog turd low blow derv, if it turns out slow/not to my expectations i'll have to save for a let lol

[paul james]

You don't need the fastest car on the road to have fun in it. Sure a new turbocharged hot hatch will be faster, but also more expensive. You can build an XE nova for not much money, and maintain it for little too.

[davidfox280585]

You don't need the fastest car on the road to have fun in it. Sure a new turbocharged hot hatch will be faster, but also more expensive. You can build an XE nova for not much money, and maintain it for little too.
to me is the exact point of a xe nova cheap thrills :thumb:

[blue_peg_16v]

true

there still crap tho lol alright in a straight line but utter turd in corners

see this tin of worms is open yet again

big blocks do handle if done correctly aegument over having owned a number and a number of small blocks too!

[mowgli]

nb. if xe novas really are crap, then there are a lot of wrong people on this forum............

i've never driven one, so i wouldn't know.

[Nova_Tek]

All swings and roundabouts to be honest, there are too many variables to consider.

Newer cars are more powerful but are heavier which leaves it down to power to weight. But XE's are getting tired, as said, and may not be pushing their standard power. XE'd Novas should still be beating a good few bigger cars but may struggle against the top of the range sport models. Only way to know for sure is to race said cars and see what happens (legally of course), which is no easy task lol

The XEV Cav has seen off cars that I'd have thought would have it, so it's hard to say. Best thing to do is to freshen up the XE before it goes in then any encounter would be more of a fair test.

[bainyboy sr]

true

there still crap tho lol alright in a straight line but utter turd in corners

thats bollox too with good suspension setup there fine

[MK999]

*physics lesson*

Technically, Xe novas with a slight weight disadvantage have a slightly lower grip POTENTIAL (capitals for key word in this sentence)

The chances of any of us lot seeing this potential bang on on a 25 year old suspension system made for carrying granny to tescos, is pretty bloody slim though, meaning the difference between a small block and a big block is just as slim, the balance can be changed, sure throw them on the same setup and the XE will most likely feel a little more slippy on the front end, there is just as big a chance that the extra weight will end up hitting a nice 'zone' for camber change and actually positively effect grip too, but either way move some weight around the car, play with the settings and that few kilos difference is gonna make the same kind of difference as putting in a more extensive cage, moving the battery or using GRP instead of steel framed seats, yet no one ever seems to complain about their cobra monaco's ruining the handling? Much less their chunky passenger obliterating the handling lol

Btw, before the pigeonholing/bias abuse kicks in, I'm mainly looking at smallblocks for mine :p :roll:

[mayhem]

lol

xe nova's are not fast, but sure as hell there not slow.

only after about a year there boring, and you need to race other people to see if its still as fast as on day 1

[bainyboy sr]

lol

xe nova's are not fast, but sure as hell there not slow.

only after about a year there boring, and you need to race other people to see if its still as fast as on day 1


Shut up!!! xe novas are not fast ma hole !!!at the end of the day there there a cheap fast car that puts alot of new sports cars to shame so topic finished

[blue_peg_16v]

Shut up!!! xe novas are not fast ma hole !!!at the end of the day there there a cheap fast car that puts alot of new sports cars to shame so topic finished

drive a let nova and then try and say an xe is quick

[Spudly]

drive a let nova and then try and say an xe is quick



As above, xe novas are nippy, but once youve been in a let then you might aswell be pedalling a milkfloat for how fast an xe is :p

[mayhem]

erm.. okay.

there a poor mans ferrari.
the only reason a veryon is faster is due to the aerodynamica.
they used to be #1 in the early 90's grouppe B rally.

i'm driving xe nova's for over 3yrs now (all with short f16 boxes..) i think i know what i'm talking about.
there proper good value for money (if build, not bought) but it's not like youre king of the road.

sure, i've kept up with a 360 hp supra mk3 (untill i hit the rev limiter is 5th lol ), killed a focus ST last saterday etc. but still.. there is always a faster car.

i drive a stripped out nova, XE on cams and ecu remap, a stock nova with a stock XE is fun, but not super fast.
i got a HUGE ass kicking from a E92 M3.. and thats a modern sports car imo.


*edit*

i've been in a let nova (fase 2 eds) and trust me.. the next day i drove my own nova, and flat out in 3rd gear was uber boring lol

[Mike]

Theres plenty of factory standard cars that would easily see off a Nova 20XE.

Although comparing standard to modified is just ridiculous.....

[L14MNP]

Shut up!!! xe novas are not fast ma hole !!!at the end of the day there there a cheap fast car that puts alot of new sports cars to shame so topic finished

lol. You have a problem with peoples opinions!

Here's another, my 130bhp 4psi Volvo will have your Nova too. :d lol

[Graeme]

My last on was dyno'd at 164 bhp and did get a boring after 12 months. Had a good few races on a private road obviously, was evenly matched against new type r's and focus st's but did get beat by a Edition 30 Gold gti, he was on his own and I had me and a passenger both big lads admittedly but the golf was quicker

Edit the day that I knew it had to go or be a lot faster was when I was trying to keep up with Lee H's let, completely incomparable, left me for dead lol

[bainyboy sr]

lol. You have a problem with peoples opinions!

Here's another, my 130bhp 4psi Volvo will have your Nova too. :d lol

i doubt that mate ,

blue peg im saying xe's are fast , i know let novas are really quick thats why im looking forward to getting my c20let astra gte on the road:thumb:

[JensonLEI]

Fabia vrs nomnomnom.

[Lee H]

i am sick of seeing threads like this saying xe novas are slow, folk that say this have either not had one or cant drive one , i hvae a list of cars mine has beat they are fast conversation over i own one

I've had 4 XE Nova's and an XE Corsa and still stand by what I said. I obiously can't drive one then!

[bainyboy sr]

lee i dont no how you can say there slow thats the point am saying they are fast not rocket ships just fast cheap fun cars

[Mike]

They must be well rapid innit, pulling 14 second passes at the Pod on a regular basis means they ARE TEH FATEST FWD motor money can buy.

Obviously......

Cant believe I never realised this before!! :S

[L14MNP]

i doubt that mate ,



lol. It's matched to my mates 151bhp dynod Rover V8 and I left a Corsa GSi with dbilas throttle body thing and a couple of other mods like it was standing still. I say it's 130, but that's a stock figure. I reckon it may have more due to the exhaust I have made and FMIC.

Anywayyyy, I wouldn't call it a fast car. There's so much quicker on our roads these days. Once I get the boost up I will class it as quick, but fast is reserved for the big boys.

[bainyboy sr]

They must be well rapid innit, pulling 14 second passes at the Pod on a regular basis means they ARE TEH FATEST FWD motor money can buy.

Obviously......

Cant believe I never realised this before!! :S


GOOD ONE GO YOU:thumb:

[Spudly]

Here's another, my 130bhp 4psi Volvo will have your Nova too. :d lol



i doubt that mate ,




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (and breathe) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA







Any deluded gen...?






You sir, are a plum...:thumb:

[bainyboy sr]

yes you must fulla glue

[Mike]

GOOD ONE GO YOU:thumb:

No, go you. You own a Nova not me lol lol

[Spudly]

yes you must fulla glue



Dowhatnow?

[L14MNP]

yes you must fulla glue

Or you think this is 1999.

[blue_peg_16v]

lmao at spud have some rep

[bainyboy sr]

yes state the obvious mate thats why am on a nova website

[blue_peg_16v]

an xe nova is a warm hatch at best not hot and thus not fast

[General Baxter]

Yours was, cause you built it. So it broke down all the time...
i done 40miles in it, and got bord lol

engine has since been to the ring, been in sloths hands, and still going strong lol

[Mike]

yes state the obvious mate thats why am on a nova website

Not necessarily obvious at all, plenty on here dont own Nova's :tard: Obviously because there the fastest cars on the planet with enough torque to shift continents an thats, you know people get scared dont they, not everyone wants to be like Vindog Rediesel & drive a muscle car like. Some of are for wanting more refined, comfortable cars.

You might be doing 14 second passes with a rattly dash, but atleast Im gonna be comfortable :)

[bainyboy sr]

lmao it just gets better and better ok WHAT EVER

[Jack]

an xe nova is a warm hatch at best not hot and thus not fast
They made hatchbacks?

[MK999]

They made hatchbacks?

Yes (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/viewfeaturecar.php?ref=1020)

[bainyboy sr]

mike you speak like my novas an every day car, i drive in comfort every day novas just a SLOW toy lmao

[blue_peg_16v]

They made hatchbacks?

there is a myth they did and also that there is a field full of shells in spain as no one wanted the horid hatchback and the only real nova to own was a saloon, there is also an urban myth that an xe powered nova is the fastest thing on 4 wheels and 2 when cornering lol

[L14MNP]

lmao it just gets better and better ok WHAT EVER

Would you class a 1600 converted mk3 Escort as a fast car?

They were once. Now they aren't. Get it?

So many people on here that you refuse to listen to have owned and built XE's Novas, in some cases more than one. Yet you continue to ignore them. All I have done is driven a couple, and been up against a few/Corsas.

Time's change. The only thing missing from your ramblings is the word 'redtop'. LOL

[blue_peg_16v]

i thought he was one of wudgeys mates

[bainyboy sr]

ive owned more than one nova xe and more than one xe lol

[General Baxter]

WHO CARES, lol

[Spudly]

Are you actually ten years old?

[bainyboy sr]

yes i am how did you guess

[JensonLEI]

i done 40miles in it, and got bord lol

engine has since been to the ring, been in sloths hands, and still going strong lol

Oh so your the owner of my engine :)

[L14MNP]

ive owned more than one nova xe and more than one xe lol

Yet you still haven't learned! lol

I now am forced to make the assumption that you're like a mate of mine, who gave a 'good go' to an R35 GT-R in his XE Manta on R1 carbs.

Course you did(!)

[Spudly]

Your arguments in here and inability to listen to others gave it away:p

[General Baxter]

Oh so your the owner of my engine :)

is it broken ?

[bainyboy sr]

sorry im wrong my novas slow how silly am i , imust of forgot it goes like 1.0l

[L14MNP]

I have to go in the loft. I'm gonna miss this.

Soooo

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv251/HandK49031/ibtl3.jpg

[General Baxter]

1.2 rapid

[Spudly]

sorry im wrong my novas slow how silly am i , imust of forgot it goes like 1.0l



Compared to cars that are actually fast it does, noone has said that they go backwards theyre that slow, we have merely said that theyre not capable of warp speed, which everyone who hasnt owned or been in one seems to think!

[General Baxter]

i learnt to drive in one, cant say its that fast lmao

[MK999]

The fact a subjective argument about something relative to the writers experience has got this far is quite funny really lol

[Spudly]

I call thread of the year right here lol

[blue_peg_16v]

i built my first when i was 19 and then it was quick but if were scaling it on past performance league in comparison to competition an xe nova is in todays terms the same as a gte back in 1998, and it they were so great why was everyone slinging xes in them, time has moved on an xe nova are no longer quick,

[General Baxter]

nar sloth still has a month lol

[JensonLEI]

is it broken ?

Still going strong, even in this weather, only that heater matrix to finish it :)

[General Baxter]

Still going strong, even in this weather, only that heater matrix to finish it :)

SCREW YOU LOT, I BUILT A GOOD ENGINE lol

[Spudly]

SCREW YOU LOT, I BUILT A GOOD ENGINE lol



Bollox, you never opened it up, VAUXHALL built good engine :p

[blue_peg_16v]

sorry im wrong my novas slow how silly am i , imust of forgot it goes like 1.0l

you would get your ass handed to you by a skoda fabia vrs (170bhp 1.4l engine)

[General Baxter]

i did, i took the head off and everything, remember as it was ticking like ****, and us lot were thinking it droped a valve

the problem is with xe's is,

who wants a ****ty old bejillion million mile engine, X20XEV FOR THE MEGA ****ING WIN

[Spudly]

i did, i took the head off and everything, remember as it was ticking like ****, and us lot were thinking it droped a valve



Oh aye you did didnt you, didnt you buy some egay lifters for it too that lasted about a mile lol

[blue_peg_16v]

i did, i took the head off and everything, remember as it was ticking like ****, and us lot were thinking it droped a valve

bet you used the manufacturers torque settings of fft lol

[General Baxter]

Oh aye you did didnt you, didnt you buy some egay lifters for it too that lasted about a mile lol
****ing 10 seconds on tick over lol in went some brand new GM ones :thumb:

oh and the 1.6 16v did 20miles

and my 1.4 8v did over 3k :p

[Spudly]

****ing 10 seconds on tick over lol in went some brand new GM ones :thumb:


Bloody hell id heard they were crap but didnt know they were that bad, where you get the gen GM ones from and how much?

[blue_peg_16v]

****ing 10 seconds on tick over lol in went some brand new GM ones :thumb:

didnt i warn you about the egay lifters too lol

[blue_peg_16v]

Bloody hell id heard they were crap but didnt know they were that bad, where you get the gen GM ones from and how much?

big cams and solid lifters ftmfw

[Southie]

All engines in any car will appear slow once you've been in another car that's quicker.

[JensonLEI]

i did, i took the head off and everything, remember as it was ticking like ****, and us lot were thinking it droped a valve

the problem is with xe's is,

who wants a ****ty old bejillion million mile engine, X20XEV FOR THE MEGA ****ING WIN

Did I forget to mention the endless problems? :tard:

[mayhem]

lol

this thread is fun.

there fast,and fun, but not super wow fast

[Graeme]

They are fast until you've been in a let

[blue_peg_16v]

and let loons are awsome get yours build graeme lol

[Alex J]

WHO CARES, lollol

[sr jack]

i dont understand, my 1.6 8v gives standard 20v turbo golfs a run, and my mate had standard gte xe nova with a 1.6 exhaust lol and i was in it at the time, and i watched a our mates 200bhp polo gti vanish up a local link road. if they aint fast enough out a LET in it lol

[bainyboy sr]

i smell ****e! lol

[Pistol Pete]

LMFAO @ this thread...age old argument that will roll on for years.

I am building an XE Nova. Yes it wont be the fastest thing on the planet, that i am fully aware of. BUT its not an everyday car, so when i take it out for a run it will put a smile on my face. And that, IMO, is all that matters.

End of.

[Sloth]

ok to sum up:

basinboy sr = utter mattbrown/naplum/gaskell clone.

gb = bodges a good xe.

an xe is nippy but a let is better. unless your puddingbasinboy sri/gsi/gtenotmetro106escort

[Grey]

corrr the BI***IN on here lol well as we are all at it i say look at the quater mile times that shows whats slow and not lol i wll agree let novas are quick hence my sig but i do drive a xe nova and have seen a m3 e46 and boxter off easy but hay its down to the driver and a good engine :p .......

piece out lol

[Benn]

Does it matter? You'll get pulled for doing 80 on the motorway anyway... Sadly the point of owning a fast car is getting less and less worth it as the cops get better and interested in catching people speeding.

[Grey]

LMFAO @ this thread...age old argument that will roll on for years.

I am building an XE Nova. Yes it wont be the fastest thing on the planet, that i am fully aware of. BUT its not an everyday car, so when i take it out for a run it will put a smile on my face. And that, IMO, is all that matters.

End of.

Ditto lol

[Edd]

Well said Pete

I personally think there quite quick tbh, but after building mine properly with decent suspension components etc I don't like them and will have more fun and a better driving experience in my 1300

Plus the only thing I did in my XE was rack up points in my license lol

[Sloth]

so fit an xe with a 5:13 fd in an f16cr for lols

[MARTIN KELSON]

My Nova has been an XE now for over 10yrs & at one one point was actually a daily drive!! :)
I remember the evening Dave France dropped it back to my house & i was like a kid in sweet shop waiting for my first drive of an XE.........................I was dissapointed.
As a daily back 10yrs it was a quick car.
Now though on ITB, stripped & straight cut box it is quick & puts a huge smile on my face, but still against a modern car wouldnt say its ballistic anymore.

I drive a Golf GTI 150bhp diesel as a daily & confident i wouldnt be embarrased against a run of the mill Nova XE.

[Bubba]

i was disapointed in my mates loon xe...nevermind...its my car n i shall do as i please to it :)

[Spudly]

My Nova has been an XE now for over 10yrs & at one one point was actually a daily drive!! :)
I remember the evening Dave France dropped it back to my house & i was like a kid in sweet shop waiting for my first drive of an XE.........................I was dissapointed.
As a daily back 10yrs it was a quick car.
Now though on ITB, stripped & straight cut box it is quick & puts a huge smile on my face, but still against a modern car wouldnt say its ballistic anymore.

I drive a Golf GTI 150bhp diesel as a daily & confident i wouldnt be embarrased against a run of the mill Nova XE.



I think that sums it up perfectly there, couldnt have put it better:thumb:




And Rob, your summary was a little ott, bainyboy might be a plum and or a touch deluded, but thats certainly no need to brand him a cnut................









Theyre useful:p




But seriously that was a bit out of order Rob!

[bainyboy sr]

rob get my name rite you penis

[Pistol Pete]

rob get my name rite you penis

If he gets your name right, will you spell right??!! lol :thumb: ;) :p

[Sloth]

lmfao, spud i agree i shall change cnut.

[dave beety]

ill killed a civic type r in my nova did not have a chance just cant find any think that fast where i am to try my nova against :(

[Spudly]

lmfao, spud i agree i shall change cnut.



Still ott imo mate!

[Sloth]

rob get my name rite you penis


yes i have a penis, do you want to touch it? are you a hurmursexshual?lol

kissy kissy

[Spudly]

ill killed a civic type r in my nova did not have a chance just cant find any think that fast where i am to try my nova against :(



Mine never could when i had it, standing start would level it till it reached vtec then it was off and i couldnt reel it in, maybe the one you raced hadnt warmed up and therefore couldnt hit vtec?

[General Baxter]

so fit an xe with a 5:13 fd in an f16cr for lols

no no no,

you want a stupid long ratio diesel box, 100mph in 1st lol

[Sloth]

Mine never could when i had it, standing start would level it till it reached vtec then it was off and i couldnt reel it in, maybe the one you raced hadnt warmed up and therefore couldnt hit vtec?


VTEC NOT KICKED IN Y0!



no no no,

you want a stupid long ratio diesel box, 100mph in 1st lol

Or fit an auto?lol

[bainyboy sr]

Mine never could when i had it, standing start would level it till it reached vtec then it was off and i couldnt reel it in, maybe the one you raced hadnt warmed up and therefore couldnt hit vtec?

i beat a few type r's aswell

[dave beety]

so called his clutch was f**ked but i dont think so that much smoke off the front wheels of his car was unreal but i was happy cuz he sat there reving it like a t**t be for he knew i was gone lol

[Spudly]

Standing start or did you just overtake them?


Bearing in mind a standard type-R is 200bhp, and an xe even if its had a fresh rebuild is 150bhp at most, it seems a large claim considering i know first hand that they wont beat them!

[bainyboy sr]

i love doing that lol

[dave beety]

sat at the lights he was not happy lol

[Sloth]

/\ agreed. my mates 173bhp xe corsa wont get near a type r.

[L14MNP]

i beat a few type r's aswell

Still going! lol

What we talking, Accords, EK9's, EP3's, DC2's, DC5's?

Sounds like you have one quick XE then mate. What's the spec? Have you had it on the strip?

*cough* BS! *cough*

[bainyboy sr]

Standing start or did you just overtake them?


Bearing in mind a standard type-R is 200bhp, and an xe even if its had a fresh rebuild is 150bhp at most, it seems a large claim considering i know first hand that they wont beat them!

my pal has a video of me smoking a new shape red one il need to get it off hi for proof

[dave beety]

not yet will hope to soon as i not got the grip of it yet lol

[bainyboy sr]

Still going! lol

What we talking, Accords, EK9's, EP3's, DC2's, DC5's?

Sounds like you have one quick XE then mate. What's the spec? Have you had it on the strip?

crail , knockhill alot yes

[General Baxter]

Boring Now

[L14MNP]

my pal has a video of me smoking a new shape red one il need to get it off hi for proof

As per previous post. Engine not warm so Vtec not available is the ONLY answer here. Unless you're one of these that keeps 'racing' until you're in front, when half the time the other car doesn't even know you're there. lol

[Spudly]

Still going! lol

What we talking, Accords, EK9's, EP3's, DC2's, DC5's?

Sounds like you have one quick XE then mate. What's the spec? Have you had it on the strip?

*cough* BS! *cough*




Unsure what letters are what for civics Liamp, but the shape im meaning is this one...


http://www.carpages.co.uk/honda/honda_images/honda_civic_type_r_02_08_05.jpg



And this (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/viewfeaturecar.php?ref=3076) was the nova in question, never beat my mates and it was a standard civic!

[comptoncj]

My mate has a 51 plate Civic Type R and its doesnt seem that quick a few of my mates have had xe novas and corsas and they always seemed to be as quick if not quicker.

[bainyboy sr]

lol disbelive is a bad thing

[L14MNP]

Boring Now
Don't be daft! Anyway, I thought you threw your toys out of the pram and skipped everything? How come you're selling Nova parts? lol

basinboysarse, any 0-60 or 1/4 times?

[General Baxter]

i have a few special bits :p

[Sloth]

ep3 iirc spudders. off tec they are 130bhp...

[peester]

/\ agreed. my mates 173bhp xe corsa wont get near a type r.

well it wont - 173bhp vs 200bhp


xe vauxhalls are cheap thrills.. its not going to beat dearer newer more powerful/efficent motors is it!? lol

[Spudly]

my pal has a video of me smoking a new shape red one il need to get it off hi for proof



And you spoke to the driver before/afterwards and they were actually racing you and not just plodding along at the speed limit laughing at the nova bouncing off the limiter just trying to creep past?

[L14MNP]

That's an EP3 Spud. 198bhp

Your mate must not have been trying, he has a power cap FFS! lol

[bainyboy sr]

if you look through the quater mile times you will see LIMPGYP

[General Baxter]

ep3 iirc spudders. off tec they are 130bhp...

and 150Ft

on tec
200bhp and 1FT lol

[Spudly]

That's an EP3 Spud. 198bhp

Your mate must not have been trying, he has a power cap FFS! lol



You mean me, thats my old xe nova :p

[Southie]

I'm interested which dog an XE is being compared too, a greyhound would kick ass compared to a shiitzu lol

[L14MNP]

You mean me, thats my old xe nova :p

colon dollar symbol!

Well aren't you a woofter? That would explain it beating you, and not just cos it's faster and a better handling chassis. lol

[Spudly]

colon dollar symbol!

Well aren't you a woofter? That would explain it beating you, and not just cos it's faster and a better handling chassis. lol



Thats what i was thinking, nothing to do with the fact that its probably had about a bazillion manhours designing it to handle and perform to the best of its ability and wasnt a conversion dreamt up in a pub and carried out in a shed lol

[L14MNP]

if you look through the quater mile times you will see Liam


I see (http://equator.eftours.com/2008/05/what-time-zone.html)

[Lee H]

Sure all these slow "Type R's" aren't Type S's?

[Sloth]

limp it was the 6spd box that slowed spud down.

[bainyboy sr]

i cant belive you are all slagging novas off and worshiping hondas on a fecking nova site great guys jdm yo

[L14MNP]

Thats what i was thinking, nothing to do with the fact that its probably had about a bazillion manhours designing it to handle and perform to the best of its ability and wasnt a conversion dreamt up in a pub and carried out in a shed lol

LMAO I gotta rep if you if I can mate. Visual images of a myriad of busy slopes pouring over schematics and another of a couple of bodgers with a grinder and two cups of tea here. lol

Not that I have anything against the great British shed! The gave us Lotus for one. :cool:

[Spudly]

it was the 6spd box that slowed him down.



I was always led to beleive that F28's are the same ratios as an F20 up to fourth gear though?

Still say an xe shouldnt have a chance against a typeR, and i knows this for a fact:p

[L14MNP]

i cant belive you are all slagging novas off and worshiping hondas on a fecking nova site great guys jdm yo

We love Nova's. Just because we won't claim they will whoop the ass of almost everything on the road doesn't mean we're all on the JDM bandwagon. Clown. lol

Good point Lee H!

[General Baxter]

id like to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZoB8akLKyY&feature=related

[Alex J]

look, i love xe engines, BUT THEY ARE NOT FAST!! FACT!! fastest quarter mile time for my xe i had on throttle bodies, cams etc was 13.5, witch isnt that fast!!

[Spudly]

i cant belive you are all slagging novas off and worshiping hondas on a fecking nova site great guys jdm yo




Lmfao were not, we just live in the real world and know a better car when we see one lol

[Lee H]

I got beat by a Type R and my 1/4 mile times in my signature aren't shy for a stock XE.

[L14MNP]

Still say an xe shouldnt have a chance against a typeR, and i knows this for a fact:p

My mate reckons he had an DC2 Teg Type R well beaten in his F7P engined 340 Volvo lol

[bainyboy sr]

i have not said they woop everything dont no were your getting that from l

[Spudly]

Sure all these slow "Type R's" aren't Type S's?



Lol i properly handed a guy his ass in a type-S he was like fook me whats in that, so i told him and he still asked for a second chance, he caught me at the next lights (they were at red at the time) and was still sure he could reel me back in lol

[Alex J]

i hate hondas and jap crap, there! i said it, i just love an old rotten nova over a jap car, each to there own!! (and cavaliers, sorry spud xxx)

[L14MNP]

look, i love xe engines, BUT THEY ARE NOT FAST!! FACT!! fastest quarter mile time for my xe i had on throttle bodies, cams etc was 13.5, witch isnt that fast!!

Bingo.

I'm sick of people raving about dropping 'redtops' into Cavs/Astras/Vectras!

OMGGGGGGGG the world is spinning backwards! lol

[General Baxter]

and............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIbf6JqkNc&feature=related

lol

[L14MNP]

Fcuking Axel Rose!
lol

[Sloth]

bainy, alt + f4 mate.

spud the box comment was for lols.

[L14MNP]

This thread is large in both humour and page length. :)

[General Baxter]

and the xe nova song, 0-60 in 3.5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up7pvPqNkuU&feature=channel

[Mieran]

Nothing special about EP3s, they're slow.

Even a VTS can beat one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk7BARqUw8U&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FSteveVT Sftw&feature=player_profilepage

[General Baxter]

cant you tell im bord, waiting for filler to dry lol

[L14MNP]

Nothing special about EP3s, they're slow.

Even a VTS can beat one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk7BARqUw8U&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FSteveVT Sftw&feature=player_profilepage

Read the first comment. lol

[L14MNP]

cant you tell im bord, waiting for filler to dry lol

I'm waiting 5/10 mins to go out and collect a loom. This is entertaining me though.

What are you bodging?

[bainyboy sr]

yas proof

[Sloth]

just when you think its over in comes another...../\

[davidfox280585]

my pal has a video of me smoking cock il need to get it off him for proof

edited for truthlol

[General Baxter]

I'm waiting 5/10 mins to go out and collect a loom. This is entertaining me though.

What are you bodging?

your momma, im filling her hole to make it a little tighter

[L14MNP]

proof

Too soon.
http://www.merchlackey.com/product_images/1246315089.jpg

R.I.P

[L14MNP]

your momma, im filling her hole to make it a little tighter

Good job. The bitch never shuts up! :p

[Sloth]

/\ you need glass paste, bainys elephant dong streched it, so he said.

[bainyboy sr]

edited for truthlol

you wish ma man !!!

[L14MNP]

I blow tramps and felch dogs

Woah mate.

[mowgli]

this needs photo shopping to remove the 1st R
http://www.merchlackey.com/product_images/1246315089.jpg

[General Baxter]

/\ you need glass paste, bainys elephant dong streched it, so he said.

im trying to stop the echo, and slapping noises

[bainyboy sr]

if i could edit posts i would

[Alex J]

cant you tell im bord, waiting for filler to dry lolme to, check the build thread!!!!!!!! my filler is the best:tard:

[General Baxter]

me to, check the build thread!!!!!!!! my filler is the best:tard:

cant beat me, im waiting for the pva glue to set, sticking my spoiler back on, it come off at 130 lol

[bainyboy sr]

me to, check the build thread!!!!!!!! my filler is the best:tard:

that is some job lol

[Alex J]

cant beat me, im waiting for the pva glue to set, sticking my spoiler back on, it come off at 130 lol1.30pm for legal reasonslol , is this the PUB bhp thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nova_stee]

Nay, pretty much everyone who says they're slow has owned one at some point.

[edit] When I say slow, I mean the "not slow, but not fast" statement.
Thats what i ment there not slow but there not world beaters like every one makes out.
Also the people that say there slow are the people that have had quicker and the others have never owned anything quicker so think there fast.

[pikey1986]

1.30pm for legal reasonslol , is this the PUB bhp thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

must be as XE nova's are beating CTR's lol

[davidfox280585]

1.30pm for legal reasonslol , is this the PUB bhp thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have a 2400 bhp vacuum cleaner (henry) we have had some real good times:p

[breadstraw]

i had a remapped 1.9 TDI golf everywhere
guy was like "fork! thats fast!" :D

[Grey]

i have a 2400 bhp vacuum cleaner (henry) we have had some real good times:p

lol

[nova_stee]

I've had 4 XE Nova's and an XE Corsa and still stand by what I said. I obiously can't drive one then!
Or me in the 4 years i have been driving a 148bhp 1.6 16v has been the slowest car so what would i no my 340bhp let must also be crap because i carnt drive a xe to start with.

[Grey]

This is a mean machine. better than a honda :p (i work for honda) p.s my daily lol FAST

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/Greys-red-gti/TheGreenBeast-1.jpg

[bainyboy sr]

sweet ride mate

[Grey]

HA lol does the job and not frightend of getting in a argument with any vans or big headed drivers. its a sleeper :thumb:

[nova_stee]

The fact a subjective argument about something relative to the writers experience has got this far is quite funny really lol
I said the quote in the first place and carnt belive its gone this far lol

[Sloth]

2.0 zetec conversion?

[Grey]

2.0 zetec conversion?

lol i wish i was jokeing bud 1.3 :thumb:

[Bubba]

2.0 zetec conversion?

dont be silly....its a XE Ka lollol

[Alex J]

http://images.dr3vil.com/files2/default/best_thread_ever.jpg

[John]

Floling hard!

[Grey]

http://images.dr3vil.com/files2/default/best_thread_ever.jpg



lol lol :thumb: