1.4 SR vs 1.4 ZR

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13-01-09, 06:04 PM
greg1.4

1.4 SR vs 1.4 ZR

hello..looking for some help/info..

one of my mates has a 1.4 K series MG ZR (standard apart from Pipercross cams) and he says it is FAST!!

i am sure they are pretty nippy, they certainly spound fast but not so sure if they are..they are big heavy cars also..

we were talking about my nova today and he says that his mg zr would piss all over my 1400 sr nova??

i couldnt really argue with him as i dont know if it will..

has anybody tried to race a mg or anything? or knows if the sr will definetly be quicker..

oh and the sr is in standard form also..

but i am planning on fitting a 1300 ported and polished head, webber 40's, 4 branch and full exhaust system, highlift cam..

somehow i dont think his zr will keep up if i did that..

what you guys think??
13-01-09, 06:05 PM
SRimon

ZR's are 120 BHP?

With your mod's you will, standard you won't.
13-01-09, 06:10 PM
greg1.4

105 bhp..
13-01-09, 06:12 PM
Pistol Pete

I'd say the ZR would be abit quicker. But not alot in it IMO. Get yourselves to a trackday and find out lol
13-01-09, 06:13 PM
Spudly

The only time ive ever had a ZR try to pass me was in my old blue nova see nova read (c20xe) and that wasnt much of a comparison as i left it in 6th and still left it (btw yes that was on the motorway not round townlol)

But im hoping you mean on a track dont ya and tbh i reckon out of the box the mg will have it but keep at it as they gasket will give out soon enough.

However if yours is modded to keep up with it then its not a fair fight really as youve upgraded your engine purely to beat him!
13-01-09, 06:17 PM
greg1.4

i did think that in standard form it would beat a 1400 sr..

but i am not purely tuning my engine just to beat him..

yes of course it will be on a track..

SPEC OF MG ZR-

Fuel DeliveryInjection
BHP104.0
Torque (lbs feet)90.7RPM to which the Torque refers4500Maximum
Speed 111mph
Acceleration (0-60)10.0
Unladen weight1020
13-01-09, 06:19 PM
Stanley

I think the Rover may just have you to be honest.

Get some fettling on the go though, and you'l be watching him in you rear view mirror....
13-01-09, 06:25 PM
womble sri

i had a rac against a friends standars zr in an sri and the nova was quicker however there was not a lot in it. cammed up with forties though the nova would obliterate the zr
13-01-09, 06:28 PM
greg1.4

nice one guys..

cheers
13-01-09, 06:29 PM
Jack

SR = 775Kgs + 72bhp = 93bhp per ton.
ZR = 1020Kgs + 101Bhp (105ps) = 99bhp per ton.

He has the slim edge in power to weight, assuming Parkers is correct with their weight. With a cam, I'd say the ZR would probably be faster. With the mods you're planning you should be knocking on an extra 15-20bhp so it may swing in your favour.

Depends on the driver though tbh.
13-01-09, 06:34 PM
kc_08

ermmm yeah i think there quite quick for what they are.. the day my mate past he followed a 1.4 in his 1.4 bravo which il admit is nippy for only a 1.4 aswell.. then mg zr flew off :P
13-01-09, 06:39 PM
greg1.4

whats the best gearbox to use on a fast road/budget track car??

f13cr i take it but what cwp is best??

i am going to be running 16'' speedlines, but want a fair bit of acceleration and top speed..

what is the standard cwp options?
13-01-09, 06:57 PM
hagger

i reckon the ZR will be quicker

My 1.4SR with some slight engine work is slower then a 1.25 ford ka :(
14-01-09, 03:31 AM
~~joycey~~

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagger

i reckon the ZR will be quicker

My 1.4SR with some slight engine work is slower then a 1.25 ford ka :(

You've got problems then.
14-01-09, 03:52 AM
Sloth

you got the t40s on yet hagger? funny thing is, my mates 2dr loon with 1.6 gsi running gear anihalates the 1.4 zr's and keeps up with 120's. i rekon you'll keep up but not beat it. they (mg's) do go and handle well, my ex had one and it was lovely to drive round the local lanes, but the head gasket wasn't.....
14-01-09, 08:00 AM
mowgli

just tell your mate that obviously the mg will beat it..... then show him the above figures. then you can go thru life with a clean conscience plus you will whip him when you have done the work to your car.
14-01-09, 08:35 AM
xe Dan

off the mark you will do it i would say
14-01-09, 10:53 AM
Jack

Quote:

Originally Posted by slothsport1

funny thing is, my mates 2dr loon with 1.6 gsi running gear anihalates the 1.4 zr's and keeps up with 120's

That turns the power to weight very much in favour of the Nova though.

Oh yeah, thats the other thing. If they're both standard, the ZR will hoon it round a corner, whilst the SR plays hopscotch with the hedge lol
14-01-09, 11:21 AM
Dod

Race him y0!! Da only way 2 no iz on Da Streetz Blud.

Seriously though, watch some Fast and the Furious style Films and they'll show you how to do a near impossible 1/4 mile speed.

"I live my life 1/4 of a mile at a time, and for that 28 seconds, I am free" Vin Diesel in a Nova SR.
14-01-09, 06:01 PM
hagger

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~~joycey~~

You've got problems then.

its always been slow and gay mine lol!!

Sloth - nope not got the 40s on yet, selling up soon anyways lol!!!
14-01-09, 09:48 PM
Leeboo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dod

"I live my life 1/4 of a mile at a time, and for that 28 seconds, I am free" Vin Diesel in a Nova SR.

Lol, I just pictured Vin Diesel holding an SR at 3500 rpm on the line and looking over at his opponent!!

Cheers much for the msn sig.
14-01-09, 09:58 PM
Welshy

the head gaskit on the mg would go befor the finnish
14-01-09, 10:42 PM
Steve

All those mgs are crap tbh, its an old mans car that been max'd!!

My old a-reg with a nova gte engine left one for dead between roundabouts, he kept trying but didnt get anywhere near me!! lol Im sure a 1.4 wont be too far off it.
14-01-09, 11:24 PM
loggyboy

I remember back in the days of my standard SRi, it kept with from a start and gradulaly inched out a 2 car lead over a couple of ZR105 up to about 70 (Cough90) ish.
14-01-09, 11:54 PM
CoolTiger

you can argue all day whos is faster ether race or he will come back with the reply of

"mine is standard and yours isnt"
or
"its a rusty ****box of a nova anyway"

:)
15-01-09, 07:57 AM
Rexy

he'd dick Yo ass Boy and hand it back to you on a plate...

K series engines are pretty good to be fair, once they have had the upgraded HG fitted. They produce a fair bit of torque and can easily have parts stolen from the K series range :D IE Throttle body and inlets etc.

just wait till a punto 1.2 sporting kicks yo ass :D
15-01-09, 10:16 AM
MyNovaSr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexy

just wait till a punto 1.2 sporting kicks yo ass :D

That will never happen :p
15-01-09, 12:34 PM
Spudly

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolTiger

"its a rusty ****box of a nova anyway"

See there in itself lies the novas secret plan, to slowly lose weight itself through rot, therefore a fifteen year old nova will weigh half of what it did when it was born so the power to weight ratio will be increased so much it will spin the earth back the other way when it sets off......

Probably:tard: lol
15-01-09, 12:37 PM
turbojolt

''rust is lighter then carbon-fiber''
15-01-09, 02:42 PM
MyNovaSr

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbojolt

''rust is lighter then carbon-fiber''

I first saw that on a VW camper, wanted the sticker there after.
15-01-09, 03:03 PM
GRUNT 16V

Not to be imature at my age and im not condoning street racing but !!!! its not the size of your engine, its the size of your balls
15-01-09, 03:22 PM
Southie

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p...llrecruits.jpg

:D
15-01-09, 08:50 PM
DW-Nova

/\ Ha ha, count me out then lol, as regards to the Nova vs MG-ZR, i had a 1.4 Luxe which is obviously the same engine, mine had spax rsx coilovers, V6 brakes, 15" alloys, sportex exhaust and a K&N, my mates MG-ZR Had a Green Air filter but otherwise standard, they were absolutley bang on head to head in a straight line ! but mine obliterated his around the corners !
16-01-09, 04:18 PM
nick_nova

i used to have a 1.4sr and my mate had a standerd mg zr. my nova was stripped out tho, it was sooo close, we where pushing it that much we both nearly crashed aswell :) the mg will props pull away slighty with the cams tho i would think.
16-01-09, 04:24 PM
Lee

Next time he says his car is faster, just grin and say 'yes, but id rather go slow in a modern classic rather than fast in a laughable pile of crap that is the Rover ZR.

And ignore what Rexy says about K series engines. He keeps buying french cars so obviously knows fook all :D:D:D
16-01-09, 04:25 PM
Lee

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNT 16V

Not to be imature at my age and im not condoning street racing but !!!! its not the size of your engine, its the size of your balls

Hes right

(and ive seen Grant's balls,theyre tiny lol lol)
16-01-09, 04:30 PM
Southie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Hes right

(and ive seen Grant's balls,theyre tiny lol lol)

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p...c6d24b0f45.jpg

:D
16-01-09, 05:12 PM
Jack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Next time he says his car is faster, just grin and say 'yes, but id rather go slow in a modern classic rather than fast in a laughable pile of crap that is the Rover ZR.

Or, swiftly kick him hard in the nuts. Then run away.
17-01-09, 01:36 PM
CP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Next time he says his car is faster, just grin and say 'yes, but id rather go slow in a modern classic rather than fast in a laughable pile of crap that is the Rover ZR.

And ignore what Rexy says about K series engines. He keeps buying french cars so obviously knows fook all :D:D:D

lol as usual Lee has hit the nailon the headlol

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