Project Winter Freshen Up

Nova now back of the road after the summer.
Managed to do a massive 447 miles in it this year!!!

Last trip out was to John Toovey to sort a small running issue out. Weather was awful & as it never goes out in the rain i was gutted, but it needed to go before tax ran out.
Drive back it was 100times better but still needs a rolling road session to get it 100% perfect.

Was following a truck on way back covering car with dirty water. All i could think about was that dirt going through bonnet scoop & sucked into my engine as i never ran filters.
Quick call to Jenvey me thinks & this arrived

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Strip down & trial fit

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Small problem. Throttle linkage rubbing in backing plate & seized it up. Call again to Jenvey.
Apparently how i have set my linkage most people cut that bit off apparently. Trust me to use it that way.
Options, buy some spacers at £20 each x 4 plus delivery or cut a slot on backplate to allow free movement of linkage. Didnt fancy spending another £100 so went for slot option.
Today drill & Dremmel came out

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Took abit of fettling but seems okay.

Trial fit it all back together
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So that was todays quick play.
Want rear beam off next to get re-powdercoated & sort wheels out.

Martin

Excellent as always Martin

Looking good, cover/filter makes it look very tidy.

awesome car this :D

All trial fitted & seems ok

Need to take the filter backing plate back off & get it sprayed up properly so it looks 'nice'

Glad you sorted a backing plate out mate, never seen one thats dished like that, perfect though for your rail issue etc, looks spot on!

Scott

Nice to see a different air filter than ITG!

So why the decision to go with the shorter rams?

When I had mine mapped, we tried all kinds of lengths and the difference was quite significant... with torque especially....
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Don't think he's changed them Will, just the back plate is dished/concaved so that it comes up the trumpets more, so he's got round the fuel rail issue, think i right in saying this?

Scott

As Scott said just the back plate

Oh yeah I know that - I just wondered why he had the shorter rams.

If anything you could run even longer ones with that air box...

Still 90mm trumpets.

With longer trumpets, then a larger filter i would be getting close to having issues closing bonnet.

Think 90mm is about the norm without issues

I think i could go 100-120mm on mine with that filter back plate and my itg filter, not sure, but to start with i cant find any alloy tapered 100-120mm trumpets..

Scott

You can get spacers from Jenvey or Jonlem on here to lengthen the inlet.

Dont know how much extra performance you gain from an extra 10-20mm inlet length.

Be interesting to try it on the rollers to see how much more torque it will produce, as i assume you could get the LBFT/BHP equal by fiddling with the trumpet/inlet length etc, as I'm sure there is something like -20 LBFT to BHP normally on a standard car/set up etc?

Scott

Gotta stick mine on the rollers next year when back on the road.

May see if i can try it whilst there

Any idea what yours is running? 210-220bhp? what lbft?

Scott

Actually ignore my comment re length of trumpets, I just looked again! lol

I thought you had stubby ones, like you see on corsas etc...

When we were fiddling with mine, we had 120mm trumpets on and although tehy looked rediculous, torque was up by 8lb ft - whilst power was around the same mark..

I couldnt justify the exepnse though - 90mm is a good all rounder

beautiful engine bay!!

Need to mount the air temp sensor.
Was going to drill into the air filter backing plate, but what to use to mount it.

Any ideas much appreciated, & its gotta look right so no sticky tape or cable ties! :)

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Martin

Mines mounted on the slam, I'm sure others have them mounted behind the bumper, where do you have it at the moment? Will where is yours mounted?

Scott

mines behind firewall..

It was mounted inside passenger side wing

Trust it would always be getting cold air though so presume it should really be in the bay close to inlet hence wanting to mount it in the filter backing plate, just dont know how to hold it in place & make it look neat.

Not to sound totally stupid but what does it do.

Dont say senses air temperature either!! :)

I mean by detecting the temperature of the air what does it tell the ECU to adjust??
So does it need to be close to inlet to detect the temp of air being sucked into inlet or doesnt it really make much difference if in or out of engine bay?

i dont know a great deal about it - but ecu will alter fuelling slightly to air temp. i believe..
SBD told me to mount it as close to filter as poss - so its an as honest temp reading of the air the engine is taking in as poss..
At the time i never thought to drill the filter mounting; just found an existing hole in the nova firewall; which is near the filter.

will's ats is attached to his fuel rail

Humm, see mine use to be attached to the filter backing plate, but Dar advised i move it,as i am sure he said it's more of an abeyant air reading, not a direct air intake sensor, might be wrong, anyone wish to ask Dar or Lee where theirs are/were mounted?

Scott

Just read this from SBD Instruction sheet from website:

The air temp sensor should measure ambient air temp so should be mounted away from engine heat.

So may put it back inside the wing.

I thought it was mate, fancy me getting something right for once! lol

It should be mounted away from heat (backing plate can get quite hot - conducting heat from the head etc), but close enough to the trumpets/inlet to give a realistic reading of the actual air temp going onto the inlet manifold...

Mine is near the fual rail - its not ideal, but doesnt conduct as much heat as you'd think...

I would think that mounting it somewhere 'cool' would not give a true indication of inlet air temp...

Its time to start this winters project.

Got these sitting in Souther Ireland for me. Genuine Vauxhall items. Mine are copies & fit like ****, so hopefully these will be better.
Just got to get them in the new year.

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Need to take rear beam back off & strengthen where the shock mounts to beam.
As i'am using coil overs all the weight on the back is held by the shock bracket & needs a little attention.
Anybody any pics of they have done to resolve this much appreciated.

Want front end re-painting if i can persuade Ade who does my paint to take it on as i have few stone chips i want rid off.

As & when i pull my finger out i will post some snaps up

Martin

Nice to see you have found some wings - but don't expect them just to bolt on and be a perfect fit - they will need a bit of tweeking to fit perfectly.

Best to trial fit them first before you get them painted !!!


If your looking for a small winter project I have a few finishing touches that need doing to mine ;)


Dave

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Originally Posted by fearless

Nice to see you have found some wings - but don't expect them just to bolt on and be a perfect fit - they will need a bit of tweeking to fit perfectly.

Best to trial fit them first before you get them painted !!!


If your looking for a small winter project I have a few finishing touches that need doing to mine ;)


Dave

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Yea i'am planning trial fitting when they arrive next year.

Hopefully not too much work :)

A 'few' finishing touches eh Dave. Still waiting for some updated pictures. Must be nearly finished surely lol

Only progress is an extra inch of dust on the shell :)

Start a thread in 'projects' so we can all see what youve been upto.

You might get enough hassle to pull your finger out!

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Anybody any pics of they have done to resolve this much appreciated.

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These are all I have mate, don't have any showing them before power coating. Ive since beefed them up by cutting a similar size plate and replacing the inner one that was still the original bracket. I've since binned the welded nut and went for a regular nut n bolt setup, can just fit a spanner down the back when the coilover is in place

Do the inner one first so you can get in to weld it then the outer one.

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Martin you definatly need to trial fit wings, as i didnt as my gm mk2 wings were 2nd hand i just guessed they would fit, but nope!! still one of the top 5 all time novas!

Scott

wings look nice

Good find on the wings martin.
Beam looks spot on aswell :thumb:

Love this car, SO tidy.

Cut a hole in the bonnet and I'll have some 12 inch extensions made for you lol

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Originally Posted by fearless

Nice to see you have found some wings - but don't expect them just to bolt on and be a perfect fit - they will need a bit of tweeking to fit perfectly.

Best to trial fit them first before you get them painted !!!


Dave

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what many people don't realise is genuine replacement panels are rejects from factory that didn't fit within a time scale and after end of production of the vehicle vauxhall/ford/ etc are made to make replacement part for several years, basicly after end of production of the vehicle the quality of the parts arnt allways like they should be.