It also had alot to do with a 2l 16v engine producing 263bhp in a shoebox sized car lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CP
Damn fine car the R500
EDIT: Oi, relocating the battery makes perfect sence.
It also had alot to do with a 2l 16v engine producing 263bhp in a shoebox sized car lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CP
Damn fine car the R500
EDIT: Oi, relocating the battery makes perfect sence.
CP who even mentioned ballasts of "homo lead lumps to balance the car"
I'm not sure you're understanding some of the theory here. There are many things a serious driver's car should be implementing that aid handling ability whilst balancing corner weights.
To say a C20XE is without finesse amazes me - If you were to say a C20LET then i'ud be more inclined to agree with you because it's all torque in a narrower power band. People are still not understanding you don't want fcuk off amounts of torque in a light shell like a nova running 195 / 205 width rubber.
I take it when you say "no finesse" you mean not a nice free revving / responsive screamer like some of the tuned small blocks that are doing circuits now?
Fact is and Olly might agree with me is 200 horse power in a track prepared nova from the c20xe is "not a slow car" and owners feel is almost as fast as they dare. It is for this simple reason that next to no one goes all out on a C20XE build.
But understand this; there are people or person that have ~ they will rev high enough to give the response AND handling refinement that you might think only belong to the small block owners.
The main difference being 220BHP verses over 300. Nothing will make a bigger effect on overall lap times than that gulf in power.
…It belongs in a museum already and next to nobody's seen it even move under it's own steam.
I've thought it many times, but never said it, BRoadGhost, You are a cock!Quote:
Originally Posted by BRoadGhost
What YOU fail to understand is that everyone taking part in this discussion knows each other personally and we all respect each other and the cars involved. This is light hearted friendly banter and the big block/small block debate has kept us amused for years!
Read CP's post again, with it in mind that Trackdaynova, Dar, Lee and CP know eachother and that CP might be executing some humour.......and that CP is approaching 90 years old and has a fair bit of knowledge and first hand experience himself.
+rep for that one mark
/me makes screen print of mark speaking his mind :eek: lol lol
I will just add this...
I'm only adding this as myself and lee were just talking about this last night and i know he agrees, his 200bhp xe is set up very well except for a diff, he is also a bloody good driver who knows combe like the creases in his pants. Yet with just simple set up differences and a smallblock, in my old car he matched his fastest lap. Nothing special you may say until the fact that in mine he was over 60bhp down and a good dose of torque, and he had never driven my car before. He managed this feat within his first 15 laps. Thats the difference between power and setup, compared by the same driver all be it less experienced in the least powerful car.Quote:
The main difference being 220BHP verses over 300. Nothing will make a bigger effect on overall lap times than that gulf in power.
This could go round and round all day, but at the end of it setup and selective methods can equal brute power with relative ease.
Ah but in the R500 the driver is relocated to the boot lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dar
Well Olly I learnt a loong time ago you are always a lot faster if your car is safely in bits in the workshop:D Plus I've got my own competition on the go with rick draper to see how much we can spend on ridiculously expensive parts for our Novas that makes no financial sense at all:roll: . Anyway I'll prolly get it done at christmas and then break it just before I'm due to go out on track:eek: lolQuote:
Originally Posted by trackdaynova
To be fair we have in the past driven most of the circuits in country and were out there on our own on track before it became as fashionable as it is with everyone nowadays.
According to the Chinese calendar, 2009 is the year of the Small Block ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by craig green
All in good time Mr H ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by trackdaynova
:thumb: Mines ballistik :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CP
Seriously yours is going to be such a great car, it won't be fair you beating the big blocks:cry: You just keep it in bits in that workshop of yours:thumb:
Why isnt there a Small Block Inside sticker? :P