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Why couldn't you get the entire floor covered in sheet ally?
I could do! Something I need to think about and read up on before just smashing it on and hoping for the best though lol
If it was that simple we would of all done it! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Iain
Colin has had conversations about this at the national with a few of us, as he knows the guy who writes the books on auto aerodynamics etc..
Dude have a look at Lee303 thread on Mig, he's done a full flat floor on his Nova.
Hmmm? I wasn't aware Lee's rear diffuser ran the full length.
He's got a full flat alloy floor, ending in a huge diffuser... I'll look for a pic...
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Originally Posted by lee303
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1112009722.jpg
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Originally Posted by lee303
lol I think well all have to remember we are talking Vauxhall Nova's and not Formula 1 cars !!!!!!!!!
All that alloy stuff underneath is not going to make any difference that you will notice imo, therefore not worth the effort
If your trying to be Adrian Newy, give Red Bull Racing a ring instead of bolting coke cans on the unside of your 25 year old production car
It must make some difference. Mini go to the effort of putting flat floor panels into the John Cooper Works Minis and offer a rear diffuser of a similar design to the one on that Nova. There must be some gain worth the effort.
In my opinion your very wrong, Renault claim the tiny diffusers they put on clios work, so how can that not, I do also think his diffuser is to much of an angle but that just means its not optimised it doesn't mean it won't work. Dar also reported good results from his simple diffuser and that is just a diffuser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edd
tbh, it can't not help, surely its pretty obvious that being flat underneath has got to be better
Yes but Edd knows all didn't you know?
Doesn't matter what it is, it's drag from wind and such that cause probs, slow flow or stopping it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edd
I was gonna say look at the new line of eco Volovs. They have totally flat plastic floors as it reduced wind drag meaning smoother flow meaning better mpg...Quote:
Originally Posted by burgo
Now your beginning bore me, if you had read my post correctly you will of seen I said imoQuote:
Originally Posted by burgo
Im very far away from knowing it all and unlike some who clearly think they know everything
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Originally Posted by Edd
Sorry, fort id got it right :d
Yeah Lee's done well to get the mid section entirely covered in such a simple piece. I had problems with the exhaust touching when I had a go, so have put that part on hold. What I might do is just cover the gap over the exhaust tunnel when I look at it again, to keep the weight down and as the rest of the floor is fairly flat.
I've added a splitter on the front recently and can feel the difference straight away at speed, so adding a flat front underside would be bliss.
TJ AND Edd, if you're only going to post drivvel and bait other members, including the staff, in the wip threads, then bugger off and play in muppet!
Back to the discussion of the diffusers, if you think they're pointless then go have a word with Lee and Dar as Dar's is similar to the one Benn posted up and he can only say positive things about it, said its done wonders for the cars handling and road holding :d
Lee's exhaust still comes out the back tho don't for get.. Pics of yours then... For Iain i mean..Quote:
Originally Posted by BRoadGhost
sorry was just nice to see him make a mistake for a change lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudly
on another note it would be epic to see you go this in depth with the car Ian (with two i's), would take a already class car to a whole new level :thumb:
I am reading with interest and having a think. Going to drop the front end down a bit with a thicker splitter while I ponder flat floors, rear diffusers and the likes.
http://www.image-upload.net/di/4XVP/diff1.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/di/QK95/diff2.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/di/C5OV/diff3.jpg
It's been refined since with the different exhaust I run and is now fully enclosed. Uses captive rivnuts in part too.
Surely the point of track day cars are for a bit of fun on a track. Most of the things you're talking of doing aren't even allowed in most entry level track racing classes. Yeh, they'll work, but surely for a "non competative" track days, you're better off saving your money and time, and putting it towards another trackday.
Where do you draw the line?!
Just my 2pence worth.
Probably not the best time to mention the car's never even been on a track.
Have you a project thread anywhere on the internet ? From the few pics you have posted here and there it looks a very interesting, well put together buildQuote:
Originally Posted by BRoadGhost
Nice to see some more pics :)
You need a project thread that looks awsomeQuote:
Originally Posted by BRoadGhost
Yes in theory its just a bit of fun chucking the car about on track. However there's plenty of fun to be had in development, learning things around stuff like this, making it faster/handle better, reducing laptimes (taken off videos, no timing on the day!) and the sense of achievement associated with that stuff. If you're not bothered about all that stuff just buy a 205 GTI and sling it about? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by chimp007_uk
Cheers for the pics BRoad, very interesting :)
ive got a couple spare stop watchs, if you want one remind me next time we link up sweet heart xxxQuote:
Originally Posted by Iain
Nooo, timing is a no-no on the day! I just take laptimes from the video footage.
A little bit of me died inside just reading that lolQuote:
Originally Posted by chimp007_uk
Fiddling ftw :d
I've been saying that for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by nova_stee
loving all the baiting thats going on here hahaha
its happening. deal with it lol
^ Hahaha.
Time for something a little less performance oriented. Undecided on it currently but it'll at least make it a little different to the other white Novas at the shows and it's still quite 80s/Vauxhally
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2a/657.JPG
I agree, the stolen skirts look is definitely different.
Looks good
Maybe same theme on the roof, quarters and tailgate ?
But im not like the stolen sideskirt look either lol
Like the graphics. Maybe the roof too?
Got the clips fitted then lol
Hhmmm i do kinda like them..
Yeah thinking of something similar on the tailgate, playing with some designs.
Tigerseal ftw lol If there's any pics from Billing without skirts on it's cos they fell off on the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistol Pete