t`s novat turbo build new one

oh and my bracket turned up for my turbo ive been waitng for this for a while plus i totally for got about it really only so its only a trail run at the mo as gotta get the turbo rebuilt and my bonnet pins turned up so thought why not do them while its not raining then i looked in my boot of my car and forgot my drill so back home which is about a 2 minute walk
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so why we was all sitting there well me and my mates little brother why the other lot went to get some dinner for me as was eating myself by this time
i thought i would have ago at the windscreen cos everytime it raind i had to keep covering it up

without
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and just as i was finishing the last bit it started raining typical english weather
i aint glued it in yet as didnt have no glue but just wanted to have a go at doin it gotta say its really easy to do
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front bumper
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back bumper which was a pain as the bolts that hold the bracket on just kept spining so i had to grind them off wasnt too bad really
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and thats as far as ive got at the moment gonna concentrate on under neath now as wanna get that all sealed up will try and get some pics

looking good matey.

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Whats your oil drain like ? same set up as mine but i aint got the spacer between the Turbo / Manifold, i'd say mines about right but with your Turbo hanging down an extra 2" (?) then theres not gonna be much of an angle for the oil to drain away ... which will lead to a poorly Turbo !!

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Whats your oil drain like ? same set up as mine but i aint got the spacer between the Turbo / Manifold, i'd say mines about right but with your Turbo hanging down an extra 2" (?) then theres not gonna be much of an angle for the oil to drain away ... which will lead to a poorly Turbo !!

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i aint got a clue about the oil drain thingy aint got that far yet but im new to all this turbo stuff my mate said i needed that adapter flange cos its got a t3 and t25 fitting (as my manifold has got a t25 flange) have you got a picture of your setup so i can check mine out next time im down there

Not the best pic but should give you an idea, the oil drain on the turbo needs to be above the oil drain in the block to allow the oil to drain away well, mines about 3" above, what size is that adaptor plate ?
Whats wrong with the Turbo ? why does it need a rebuild ?

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thanks for the pic r1ch i think the plate on my adapter is about 4" i will have to measure it next time i go down there on the turbo side the end float has gone and the blades are scrapping when you spin them by hand and can you spin them turbos round as your boost pipe is at the bottom and mine is at the top if it comes to it i will have to get another plate where did you get your one from by chance and again thanks for the pic

Aye, sounds like its knackered then !!
I don't have an adapter on mine, i chopped the T2 flange off the manifold and had a T3 flange welded on, so my turbo sits abit higher than yours.
You can rotate both the compressor and turbine housings 360 degrees, just a case of loosening the 6 (8 ?) bolts on the back of the housings and rotating them, with the turbine housing bolted to the manifold your gonne need to rotate the centre housing (bit with the water / oil fittings) so that the oil feed is at the top, the rotate the compressor housing to where you want it to sit.
Once its all bolted up see if you can measure how high the bottom of the oil drain on the turbo (flat section with drain hole & 2x M8 holes) is above the oil drain in the block, just measure vertically down to the centre of the drain on the block.

Rich

cheers r1ch i will get another flange welded on had a loo at it on friday and it sits level with the feed from the block oops

Is it possible to get a picture showing the height difference between them ?
See if you can get a pic so its level with the drain on the turbo, just to give us an idea if it'd work at all.
The oil just drains away under gravity, it doesn't take a huge angle for it to be able to drain away ... so it still could work ??

i will try and get a pic for you mate i should be down my garage on saturday if i aint got a hangover lol

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Hi mate, build is looking good! as Rich has said the turbo oil feed return needs to return to the sump by gravity! you may hold up oil in the turbo having it this low. why dont cut the T3 flange end away from the adaptor and weld it directly onto the manifold turbo flange? that way it will bring the turbo back up to a nice level? or do it proper and grind off the old turbo flange and weld a t3 fitment one in its place!:D

another little update after a few pints down the pub on friday me and a few mates was gonna go round my garage and hopefully get the painting done underneath the car with some hammerite but as we was in the pub one thing led to another then we went back to my mates for a party which ended up getting a bit out of hand till a realized it was 7am and decided to go home and get some sleep so the garage was out of the question so i stayed inbed and thought i would go down there sunday with a better head and vision
plus i would be on my own so i would mostprobably get something done lol


first off was getting the under neath sanded down and wiped over with some thinners
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the after
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i only got the boot area done at the mo just wanna see what it comes out like first plus i needs another coat aswell

plus i got a pic of the turbo for you r1ch will try and get a better one as my phone had low battery
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Difficult to tell off those pics really !!
You still need to rotate the centre housing around so the oil drain is at the bottom.
Easier way to check if its gonna be ok ... see if you can get a straight peice of hose / pipe to fit on the end of the oil drain in the block so its sticking out at 90 degrees to the block (basically just extending the fitting thats already in the block) and comes out further than the turbo, that way once you've got the oil drain on the turbo at the bottom you can just measure the vertical distance between the oil drain on the turbo (try and measure from the actual centre housing on the turbo) and the centre of the hose thats extended from the block.
Hope that made sense !!

finally got my oil cooler kit off rallydesign and a few over bits aswell aint done nothing since the last update went down there today and everything was not goin right as i went to fit the cooler and the bolt aint long enough will get back to that bit later anyway thats it for the meen time really
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and me new 16 row oil cooler
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and some more braided hose for the brakelines and my facet red top fuel pump
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thats the best pic i could get r1ch i think its too low so im gonna get a flange welded on to the manifold just to save all the hassle plus my mate said that the bend on the exhaust might be too low with it being like that

I reckon that the oil drain will be fine like that mate, appears to be about 1 1/2" difference in height so should drain away fine.
The exhaust it pretty tight where it comes down in front of the gearbox / block but should be able to sort without to many probs, what size downpipe you making 3" ?
I ued a Mongoose 2wd Cossie downpipe on mine, just chopped and rewelded it, just needed to add an extra 90* bend to bring it around the sump.

yeah goin for a 3" all the way through thats what im after a cossie downpipe but not in a rush yet so will get that later tho saving some money up to get my omex 600 management

another little update.i was indoors with yet another (hangover)but thought whats the point of staying in bed all day moaning lol.so i went down the garage to do the inside front arches painted with the hammerite i got.and the little bolt thingy from vauxhall so i could fit the sandwich plate propperly thanks again Ste L for getting me the part number

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i got the other side done but my phone run out of battery plus i started to get a bit of a headache.
and something else turned u at work.my petrol cap i won off ebay beenlooking around for one but nothing caught my eye till this came up
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aint done any updates lately as computer has been really playing up,would not upload my pictures off my phone but thats another story.any way i finally got my inner cv joints which was abit of a pain to get but in the end,but after getting a registration no off my mates old astra gte i got them .so i thought i would have a go on a saturday. afternoon as had a bit of motivation for some weird reason lol and finally got them done was a pain as had no vice but in the end i finally done it after a few hours of swearing

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all fitted up
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and also my alternator turned up from so i fitted just for now as getting a new one soon but it seems like to it sits in a bit so the alternator belt will be at an angle with the bottom pulley are the brackets the

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and then i give up as the typical english weather the clouds opend up so left it at that
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Hmm, that bottom pully sits out wayyy more than the standard one for some reason.
Is the crank sprocket all the way onto the crank?

yeah it should be when the shop rebuilt it or does it got the other way round the pulley

Possibly.
Should definently sit tight in to the cambelt cover than yours does.

i was thinking that might try swapping it around see if it sits any better,but the only thing is the bolts will be sticking out

if its a pulley from that bloke westy on migweb the pulley is meant to go the other way around, with the bolts sticking out!

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if its a pulley from that bloke westy on migweb the pulley is meant to go the other way around, with the bolts sticking out!

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thats just well freaked me out i was just trying to figure his name out and yeah its from westy

well another little update.didnt do alot again this weekend after a two day bender it was my mates stag do. which got a little bit out of hand as they do lol,well i thought i would go down the garage today as got bored of laying in bed felling sorry for myself. plus had enough of the other half moaning so i couldnt take no more and went down to the garage,after pulling the car out of the garage. i just couldnt get in to gear so i looked around abit and after about 20 minutes.i got the juack out and thought i would do the crank pulley. as silly me put it the wrong way round cheers dan16vfor telling me,also i bought some grommets so i put them to some use .aint got alot of pics of what ive done put something is better than nothing also i have just bought a new t3 hybrid turbo. should be deliverd on tuesday or wednesday and my manifold is with my mate to get the new t3 flange welded on

put them on my braided lines just to tidy it up abit and stop them rubbing on the metal
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and hers the crank pulley

the wrong way round
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and the right way round
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lines up alot better now
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also i was wondering what people have done to there clutch cable the bit where it goes on the sleeve on the body. as it hits the inlet manifold i was gonna chop the hole thing off . but wanted to know what other people have done to theres or if there got any pictures at all
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with rergards to clutch cable, with myne i bent it round at more of an angle! but the engine was not in the car at the time! not sure if you could do it from the inside?

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with rergards to clutch cable, with myne i bent it round at more of an angle! but the engine was not in the car at the time! not sure if you could do it from the inside?

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the inlet manifold is only held on with two bolts at the mo, i was gonna either cut the hole thing off or cut it at an angle. so the cable should go away from it i hope

cut it back slightly and tweek it around

im gonna have a go at the weekend

i'm sure when chris astley does his conversions he chops it at a new angle.

time to get the grinder out ooooooh yes,simps i think he does cut it at an angle will try and find out a bit more about it

right went down the garage yesterday just to get away from the other half.as she was on the warparth, so i sneeked out down the garage as you do lol.so i thought i would continue on cleaning the underside due to all the oil and rubbish from the roads it has gatherd over the years.so got bored of doin that so i looked at me petrol pumps and swirl pot and thought i would. see where i could put them. i was gonna run the pumps under neath then the swirl pot to one side.but thought i want it all in side i still wanna keep my spare wheel but i cant figure out where to mount them all. plus im stuck on what pipes to get plus how you plumb the lot up as my brain was just blank has anyone got any ideas on where,what pipes i need and the main thing is how to plumb it all up i took couple of pics but thats all i could think of

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I will be selling a 3" nova system in a month or so if you are still needing one?

Nova is Looking excellent mate keep up the outstanding work :thumb:

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I will be selling a 3" nova system in a month or so if you are still needing one?

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how much you looking for it rick