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04-03-10, 10:25 PM
John

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Originally Posted by Benn

Yes its Rtv sealant, smells like vinger.

Lucky you Ad, mine xe ones didn't even after doing one in the car while it was snowing around me with the old sh*te 2 cork gaskets.

No mate, the cement stuff isn't rtv. It doesn't smell of vinegar (lol) it's the stuff used to glue sumps on, when there is no gasket. ie steel pan to alloy block etc.
04-03-10, 10:29 PM
Nova_Tek

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Originally Posted by Benn

The rad is thicker than the normal Gsi one but only by a few mm (say 5ish)
I run two 7inch fans, because i want them on the front for the cleaner look.
You could run i'd think a 8 or 9inch fan on the back, plus one on the front if you where worried. Depending on where the ic fits and all that.

As i've said, i'm still two minds on the bra, the flat work as wind brakes to hold it down and tight to the bonnet.

It looks a tad thicker. I asked as those two fans look a decent size. I could go for 1 large fan but need to check out how much room I'd have left. The IC will probably be mounted slightly higher than normal due the the front being a snowplough so that will have some bearing on what size fan, inside or out and how large.

:thumb:
04-03-10, 10:33 PM
Benn

Quote:

Originally Posted by John H

No mate, the cement stuff isn't rtv. It doesn't smell of vinegar (lol) it's the stuff used to glue sumps on, when there is no gasket. ie steel pan to alloy block etc.

Oh that stuff, Fiat use it. If it comes it yeah i'll have a tube.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nova_Tek

It looks a tad thicker. I asked as those two fans look a decent size. I could go for 1 large fan but need to check out how much room I'd have left. The IC will probably be mounted slightly higher than normal due the the front being a snowplough so that will have some bearing on what size fan, inside or out and how large.

:thumb:

I'd rather have a bit bigger fans, but they work very well and keep the car happy. Cut the cross member and you can mount it as low as you want. Wish i had gone a bit lower, but its right in the mouth so gets good air flow.
04-03-10, 10:34 PM
John

pm address. ;)
04-03-10, 11:43 PM
alan b

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Originally Posted by Benn

Ah so not just mine.. Will yours leave a small puddle when parked tho?

not really, an odd drop from time to time, but ive never noticed an affect on the oil level, it leaks feck all really. and mine spends most of its time running in the shed and no puddlelol

on another note, any other nova id be iffy on the bra, but on this i thinks it looks good:thumb:
04-03-10, 11:58 PM
scott.parker

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Originally Posted by Benn

That's very much what i'm thinking, Scott said a few pages back about running some along the join on the out side.

It dont look pretty, but it's worked, i had small leaks all about the sump even after i replaced mine and put the short bolts in, and then i got small leaks from the cooler pipes and a bit at the back of the filter too, so i just got pissed off and smeared the sealant ALL over and joint! lol
05-03-10, 07:06 PM
Benn

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan b

not really, an odd drop from time to time, but ive never noticed an affect on the oil level, it leaks feck all really. and mine spends most of its time running in the shed and no puddlelol

on another note, any other nova id be iffy on the bra, but on this i thinks it looks good:thumb:

Yeah see mines been in the garage since Sunday, and there's a puddle about 2inch wide under it. But the oil level don't go down ....

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Originally Posted by scott.parker

It dont look pretty, but it's worked, i had small leaks all about the sump even after i replaced mine and put the short bolts in, and then i got small leaks from the cooler pipes and a bit at the back of the filter too, so i just got pissed off and smeared the sealant ALL over and joint! lol

Just done it. Cleaned it with brake cleaner then smeared it on over the joins all round and used my finger to even it out. Looks poo, but leaking looks worse.
05-03-10, 07:24 PM
krobinson

Mine would drop a penny sized amount over a weekend, nothing for me to care or worry about. I could probably make it worse changing the gasket!
05-03-10, 07:31 PM
let_nova

what size fans are they on you rad ben?
05-03-10, 09:05 PM
Benn

Quote:

Originally Posted by krobinson

Mine would drop a penny sized amount over a weekend, nothing for me to care or worry about. I could probably make it worse changing the gasket!

Oh right about the same as mine then.. Is just messy. Underside looks worse.. but keeps it protected..lol

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Originally Posted by let_nova

what size fans are they on you rad ben?

As said about 7 times, they are twin 7inch.
05-03-10, 10:27 PM
Benn

Held a 4pot in place and can see why you need these discs with a huge off set...
06-03-10, 06:57 PM
Benn

Been trying to work out the discs for the 4pots. So measure everything get out the brake book...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8806.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8807.jpg

Think i've found one that fits...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8808.jpg

Sadly this is as far as the can be fitted.. :(

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8817.jpg

Ah can see why you need a huge offset on the discs..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8818.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8819.jpg

Need to trim my hubs down tho then i can try fitting the discs
06-03-10, 06:57 PM
Benn

As the Rolling road is next weekend, the front needed to be raised up a little just incase..
Started off with 40mm of thread left showing..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8821.jpg

Wound it up a bit *vom* 50mm..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8823.jpg

After the RR i can wind it right down, haven't tested how low it will fully go.

Also i got all my interior bits back in too..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8812.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8811.jpg

Got my new gear gator fitted too :) matches the seats...(black leather white stiching)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8815.jpg
06-03-10, 06:59 PM
nova1992

Love the interior good work,
06-03-10, 07:04 PM
craig green

Poverty spec round knob!!

Did you ever fit the side mouldings for the seats I sold you Ben?
06-03-10, 07:08 PM
Benn

Round knob? What gear knob? What else would be fitted? IS a 4speed one too..lol And no haven't fitted them, but will soon.

Cheers 1992.
06-03-10, 07:53 PM
djbrowney

i want my car done, you make me sick lol
06-03-10, 07:56 PM
Benn

You love it. And get it finished and wheres my brace.... lol
06-03-10, 07:58 PM
djbrowney

your worse then a woman lol
06-03-10, 08:34 PM
Adam

Looks good!! Wheres the RR at?
06-03-10, 08:39 PM
Benn

Dj told you i hate having to wait, i burn my topunge alot too.

Ad:
JKM in portsmouth. Sbd rob had his Astra dynoed there and the figure was good so we thought we'd try them.
07-03-10, 11:58 AM
novalovingned

Interior looks very nice mate :)
07-03-10, 12:00 PM
scott.parker

Is it my imagination or can anyone els see what looks like blue/gray SR/SRi strips on the sun visors??

Scott
07-03-10, 12:05 PM
Spudly

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Originally Posted by scott.parker

Is it my imagination or can anyone els see what looks like blue/gray SR/SRi strips on the sun visors??

Scott

Aye looks like theyre rattle canned, might try that or cutting a section from an old GSi seat cloth and sticking it in place of the blue/grey i reckon.

Interior looking good Benn, needs another seat switch on the drivers side though lol
07-03-10, 08:18 PM
Benn

Cheers Novalovingned.

Scott, they are blue sr visors, you can only see the blue with the flash on. If you look at them, you cant only see the patten not the colour.

Spud, the center bit isn't in all the way. As i wasn't sure which way the window switches pluged in.. Took a guess and got it wrong. Have both buttons don't worry.

Really don't like the way it drives with the front raised up. Its really light and doesn't feel connected to the road right. Spun it up big time in 2nd and 3rd while playing with a new turbo Vw Scirocco.. Which was surprisingly fast.
07-03-10, 08:23 PM
MK999

It is possible to alter grip levels with ride heights, as you say raising it tips the grip the other way, I'm not sure of the exact mechanics or whether it's purely because you're effectively tipping the CoG a few mm/cm back!
07-03-10, 08:39 PM
Benn

Either way i don't like it!

Gonna wind then right down after the RR day.
07-03-10, 08:51 PM
Nova_Tek

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Originally Posted by Benn

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8812.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8811.jpg

Benn... how is your roof lining secured in place? Have you just retrimmed the lining in the same way it left the factory (held up by metal support bars) or have you directly stuck it to the roof skin and contoured it around the beams?

It look very tidy. The roof lining I did many years back has faded at the rear due to the Nova not having any tints in the glass. So I'm considering what to do and yours looks great.
07-03-10, 09:26 PM
Benn

Its a copy of the std one, so the bars hold it up. Then i've used spray glue on the edges where it holds around under the door rubber.

Mine has a sunroof so it couldn't be stuck to the roof.
07-03-10, 09:45 PM
Nova_Tek

Right gotcha. I was actually thinking about sticking mine to the skin and moulding it around the roof beams. Help to lose a bit of weight and probably be easier to clean. Mine has a sunroof too. I'd have thought some carefull trimming would sort that out.
07-03-10, 09:55 PM
Benn

If you didnt have a sunroof then yes you could just stick it straight to the roof.
Weight saving? It weights about 2pounds... The sunroof cassette is about 15kgs...

The sunroof cassette is foam covered, so glueing on that would be a ****. then you'd have to builds the sides up to meet the center too..
07-03-10, 10:12 PM
Nova_Tek

Sorry man, forgot to add that my sunroof is different though not a factory GM one :tard: . Mine was an aftermarket Solarsport sunroof jobbie. When you take the lining off you can see the full roof skin as you would with a non-sunroof car. But obviously there's a whole filled up by a sunroof.
08-03-10, 08:13 AM
Benn

Ah then yeah you could stick it straight to the roof, and shape it by hand over the lumps and bits.
08-03-10, 10:15 AM
nova_niek

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Originally Posted by krobinson

Best thing you can do is just clean both surfaces, and use a new 8v gasket.

If it still leaks, then join the rest of us LET owners, it's hard to come across a LET owner who doesnt have some form of Leak!

Over the past years, I've been doing quite a few motorbike engine overhauls. Same problem with leaky sumps (yes even on Jap bikes). Most people try to overcome this using lots of cheapo silicone sealant or comparable stuff and doing up the sump bolts to the point where they nearly break. Doesn't always work.

Best cure against drippage is to (indeed) thoroughly clean all mating surfaces, use proper gaskets (not sure which ones are best for XE sumps) and tighten all sump bolts to the specified torque. And yes, a thin film of Würth Silikon Speciale 250 (German stuff) works a treat,

Hope this helps,
Niek
08-03-10, 10:41 AM
dj_wudgey

looking good matey i think the car bra looks well also!!
08-03-10, 08:03 PM
Benn

Quote:

Originally Posted by nova_niek

Over the past years, I've been doing quite a few motorbike engine overhauls. Same problem with leaky sumps (yes even on Jap bikes). Most people try to overcome this using lots of cheapo silicone sealant or comparable stuff and doing up the sump bolts to the point where they nearly break. Doesn't always work.

Best cure against drippage is to (indeed) thoroughly clean all mating surfaces, use proper gaskets (not sure which ones are best for XE sumps) and tighten all sump bolts to the specified torque. And yes, a thin film of Würth Silikon Speciale 250 (German stuff) works a treat,

Hope this helps,
Niek

Cheers for the info.

I made sure all the surfaces where ultra clean. And used all gen VX parts this time to see if it helped.

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Originally Posted by dj_wudgey

looking good matey i think the car bra looks well also!!

Cheers dude.

Car in the garage washed and clayed. Gonna get a full buff up, polish and wax and then i can try my new sealant.
14-03-10, 06:44 PM
Benn

A big thank you to Dan for his help mocking everything up and a trail fitting on his GTE.

Now an even bigger thanks to Pete. Who spent this afternoon doing some machining for me.

So i turned up at Pete's house/Garage with all this..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8824.jpg

Pete started off getting the hubs stripped down.. Ooo look at this size of his spanner.. lol

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8839.jpg

Bearing removal thingie.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8825.jpg

Needed a bit more grip.. Carefully does it!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8827.jpg

Now on to the fun bit.. Lathing.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8830.jpg

The outer of the hub needed about 2mm shaving off and about 4mm from the center (to make it all the size side, no step)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8835.jpg

Got my new disk to test fit.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8828.jpg

Looks like the kittie. As the disk is for Vag car it's got a few holes, lucky it lines up with the 5stud hub :)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8838.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8840.jpg

Bit of mocking up..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8841.jpg

Oooooooo hello!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8842.jpg
14-03-10, 06:44 PM
Benn

Bit of a gap on the rear..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8844.jpg

Bit its a nice fit on the front :)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8845.jpg

Shame you cant see the name tho.. New wheels would sort that tho... ;) lol

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8846.jpg

With that sorted, i know what i need to buy to finish(a small spacer and 10mm longer bolts)
Pete pressed the other hub and bearing out.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8848.jpg

Inner of the hub thats turned down to fit the Nova bearing.. All perfect after 5k of abuse.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...n/IMG_8850.jpg

Screw buying disks from Rally Design.
Once again a huge thanks to Pete (pitstoppete)
14-03-10, 06:49 PM
Graeme

Looking good Benn, No recent pics of Pete's Cav?
14-03-10, 06:58 PM
djbrowney

cracking results mate, why not buy some studs and nuts would make things much easier !

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