My RWD C20XE Chevette build

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03-11-09, 08:39 PM
bmw156

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_wudgey

all i have to say rwd ftw!!

you indeed win sir
03-11-09, 08:42 PM
chimp007_uk

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw156

ill check my receipts lol

rings: 46.99 delivered
main cap bolts: about 20 quid
bearings: about 35 quid
assembly lube: 10 quid
i need some sealant for the flywheel main cap.

Cheers, that not a bad price! I'll be in touch lol

Manta it up ;)

I have a feeling i'll be going v6 in mine when i get the time a money.
03-11-09, 08:45 PM
bmw156

manta it up lol, you paying :P

and they are to heavy lol.

and those bits were of ebay :)
03-11-09, 08:49 PM
chimp007_uk

They're not dear, and they'll handle a darn sight better than a dolomite.

mine is so nice to drive! you can pick them up for less than £1k and sell the bits off it! Or buy a 1.8 for a little more and save yourself money on a sump, dizzy and rwd conversiona dn engine mounts, plus g/box.
03-11-09, 08:50 PM
bmw156

Quote:

Originally Posted by chimp007_uk

They're not dear, and they'll handle a darn sight better than a dolomite.

mine is so nice to drive! you can pick them up for less than £1k and sell the bits off it! Or buy a 1.8 for a little more and save yourself money on a sump, dizzy and rwd conversiona dn engine mounts, plus g/box.

hmmm you have my attention. tell me more lol.

rust?
03-11-09, 08:58 PM
chimp007_uk

Do like to rust... Bu then again it's an 80's car made for cheap metal. Most dolomites and imps i looked at before i bought the manta were similar!

Go for the 1.8 berlinetta saloon! It'll have all the bits you need. I'm running a few goodies on mine, nout that is too dear to source.
03-11-09, 09:01 PM
Plug

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw156

hmmm you have my attention. tell me more lol.

rust?

about the rust

think about how a nova rusts then times that by the size differance and there you go

Rust like fook lol
03-11-09, 09:30 PM
Joe Richardson

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_wudgey

all i have to say rwd ftw!!

redtop ftw ;)
04-11-09, 01:03 AM
Angus Closier

Sounds like this is going to be a good project! manta ftw!!
14-11-09, 03:15 PM
bmw156

ok, seeing as it was pissing it down today, i jumped in the shed to do some more work on the engine as opposed to the rusty nova.

got a piston ring groove cleaner through the other day, so first job was to clean all the shizzle out of the grooves and generally clean them, the tool works really well and im chuffed with the results.

Pistons after a really good clean.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2868.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2869.jpg

then came the piston rings, i have never done these befor so was a bit cautious as i didnt want to brake any.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2875.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2876.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2877.jpg

so first set of three on the lowest groove (2mm).

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2874.jpg

Second ring, noting the TOP on the piston ring

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2878.jpg

and Third,

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2879.jpg

i also did have a tool to help, but found doing it with my fingers to be better. i didnt brake any thank god,

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2883.jpg

then i cleaned up the conrods and put in their new bearings, noting that 4 have a hole and 4 dont so they have a specific place

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2872.jpg

thats about it for today. gonna probably get some new circlips for the conrods and also need to get some sealent for the main bearing on the flywheel end.
14-11-09, 03:23 PM
Iain

Nice work, nothing like some nice clean internals. What's this piston ring groove cleaning tool you're talking about? I was just going to wire brush them...
14-11-09, 08:17 PM
bmw156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Piston-Ring-Gr...item2301459c53

thats the tool i used, works wonders i say
21-11-09, 08:19 PM
bmw156

done some more work today, chucked the pistons back together, gudgeon pins, and circlips.

then compressed all the pistons, and put a bit of oil in the bores and got all the pistons in, lightly tightened the bolts on the big ends.

and then new head gasket and chucked the head on and lightly bolted it down.

will get some pics soon

next is buy some lifters, and torque down the top end, then sort out timing belt shizzle. and get the sump etc all on
22-11-09, 08:32 PM
bmw156

ok, so got some sealent today for the bottom end.
and started re assembling bits and torqued down the bottom end

New seal
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2899.jpg

New gasket
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2900.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2902.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2898.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2909.jpg
23-11-09, 08:10 PM
djbrowney

coming along mate, next time try and get a metal oil pump gasket much better imo :thumb:
23-11-09, 08:15 PM
Angus Closier

To be honest I just snap an old piston ring in half and use that to clean them!!
looks good mate! keep it up!!
23-11-09, 08:21 PM
bmw156

cheers guys, yeh i would of used an old piston ring if i had one!! lol

been looking at vauxhall chevettes today. and liking the idea of sticking it in one of them
23-11-09, 08:27 PM
Plug

/\ do it there Sweet
23-11-09, 08:34 PM
bmw156

lol, anyone got any information of redtops in chevettes
23-11-09, 09:03 PM
nova_saloon

/\ nope but loving the build. coming along nicely!
23-11-09, 09:06 PM
The Simps

You can put whatever you want in the chevette mate. check out this thread with a V8! http://retrorides.proboards.com/inde...d=36945&page=1
23-11-09, 09:14 PM
bmw156

quality link mate thanks
24-11-09, 01:06 AM
Rich

kadett c would be my choice if you can find one!
25-11-09, 12:44 PM
Sloth

manta 1800 gearbox and sump and mounts, abuse the tunnel a bit, poss a specially made prop, talk to a guy calles djivesp on mig or dejaaiiii! as they both have xes in kadetts
25-11-09, 01:40 PM
brake-dust

djivesp has a 2.0 8v turbo in a kadette, the guy is a legend he has helped me with so much info when building mine.
29-11-09, 12:26 AM
blue_peg_16v

what about this as a shell for your engine i want

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OPEL-MANTA_W0Q...item2c51e957db
29-11-09, 01:39 PM
philip

i know a lad selling a 2.0 manta soon if might be something your after?
04-12-09, 09:58 PM
bmw156

ok, the final stint.

got my lifters through, squished them in oil and installed them:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2912.jpg

then unwrapped my cams, and put some graphogen paste onto the surfaces. and tightened down the cams in the right order.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2916.jpg

New seals on the ends of the cams.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2919.jpg

i also bought some new bolts of ebay for the rocker cover so put on my new gasket and bolts the rocker cover down just to keep some shizzle out.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6/DSC_2920.jpg

just need to get as bottom pulley now which has the timing mark on, then i can time it up. im sure i have one laying about, just cant find it lol.

then save for some kinda car lol.
04-12-09, 11:07 PM
Mk1'SR'Dan

engine looks the t*ts mate, if only Opel Asconas were easy to find... id love one of them... dolomites look good too, id like to build a LET hillman imp, are they mid or rear engined?
05-12-09, 10:51 AM
chrisnovaturbo

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/Untitled.jpg

there are the timing marks mate :thumb:
05-12-09, 10:54 AM
Graeme

The engine should be timed up without the bottom pulley on mate
05-12-09, 11:02 AM
mayhem

never time it with the alternator pully on it... there all different, so the mark doesnt line up..

help me out here... a chevette is based on the kadett C iirc?
in that case you want a manta 18s mount and kadett c rubber on one side, and an Omega A (carlton in the uk iirc?) rubber on the other side.

manta 18s sump, but you dont need the pick up pipe.. there overpriced imo. just bend the c20xe pipe a little, that's the only difference between them. lengh is the same.
05-12-09, 11:05 AM
Graeme

Correct mate, a chevette is a kadett c with a manta/cavalier mk1 style front end
05-12-09, 11:25 AM
mayhem

cheers, in that case you need:

manta 18s mount with 1600 kadett C rubber on the right side, and an omega A rubber and mount on the left side.
05-12-09, 11:34 AM
bmw156

lol i need to find the manta stuff first. the sumps possibly dont excist lol. and the rear axles have vanished lol.

but thanks for the info on the engine mounts and pick up pipe.

thanks for the comments as well guys :)

and thanks for the timing belt information.
05-12-09, 11:37 AM
Novaboi_1991

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw156

then save for some kinda car .

Drop it in the 5 door :p :p
05-12-09, 11:43 AM
mayhem

you can fit any axle you want.

we placed a manta B gsi rear axle under my mates kadett C coupe.
its just a little wider, thats all.
kadett C 1600 axle is even better, but there impossible to find and F'ing expensive.

the mounts are easy to make, my mate made his own mounts (placed the engine a few inches backwards)

edit**

you're planning to run carbs iirc?

what's also an option is kadett D gte ignition or from an ascona 1.8i. bolts straight onto a c20xe.
then run a pegeot 205 1.9 gti dizzycap. it's the same on the inside but it's shorter then the opel item.

i'm not sure of the clearence with the heater though.
05-12-09, 12:00 PM
bmw156

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novaboi_1991

Drop it in the 5 door :p :p

what 5 door, both of mine are 3 :D
but i have thought about it lol, maybe if an f20 comes up close and cheap and a pair of shafts i might pick it up

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayhem

you can fit any axle you want.

we placed a manta B gsi rear axle under my mates kadett C coupe.
its just a little wider, thats all.
kadett C 1600 axle is even better, but there impossible to find and F'ing expensive.

the mounts are easy to make, my mate made his own mounts (placed the engine a few inches backwards)

edit**

you're planning to run carbs iirc?

what's also an option is kadett D gte ignition or from an ascona 1.8i. bolts straight onto a c20xe.
then run a pegeot 205 1.9 gti dizzycap. it's the same on the inside but it's shorter then the opel item.

i'm not sure of the clearence with the heater though.

yeh gonna run twin 45's and yeh i have read in my "research" that people have to move the dizzy or coil pack. so thats something for me to take into consideration. and im planning on running mega jolt.
05-12-09, 05:21 PM
Novaboi_1991

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw156

what 5 door, both of mine are 3 :D
but i have thought about it lol, maybe if an f20 comes up close and cheap and a pair of shafts i might pick it up.

sorry mate, lol, got you confused with someone else, lol,

but yeh, should be a bit of fun =]
19-12-09, 11:48 AM
bmw156

ok so as some of you may of seen i have bought this sexy car for the redtop to go into. havent picked it up yet, but deposit paid.

some pics of the beast

some info on the car,vauxhall chevette, 1.3 auto, 26k, 1 lady owner, no rust, full years MOT, months tax, original v5 and new v5, one scratch along one door. need i say any more lol

opel badge on the front, because the vauxhall one got nicked.

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