apparently not on metallic paintwork? :confused:
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apparently not on metallic paintwork? :confused:
Oh right, was just thinking if the laquer will take right onto shiny paint.....?
Wheres Benn when you need him lol
Sorry here, well you both have me on msn for questions...
Dont flat off base! Anless you'll be re painting more base on..
You've put the base on nice and nicely wet, with lacquar on it should look very. Base is ok for about 8hours before it will lose its grab.
After that you'll need to flat it off then rebase before lacquaring.
Shouldnt really leave base unlacquared tho..
Love the round arches... very sexy.
What did i say?? I told you it would be much better with a larger compressor and to just give it a try, you should have a little more confidence in your abilities (they are better than you think) besides is you funk it up you can always knock it back and try again.....:thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by trackdaynova
As for the bonnet did you use the 40 grade on it thats for sanding the splinters off wood?! lol lol if you do do it again take some more time with the prep and use something finer 150/180 and then 240 before you high build this will get rid of the large scratches....job done
Loving the wings in colour they look cool as btw
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So if he leaves them a few days he will have to flat them off, re-colour, and then laquer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benn
Yes, the base loses its addeasion(sp?) if its left to long, so a light 1000grit flat off, then re base, then lacquar.
Yep, if your gonna go over deeper scratches you might wanna look in to some green stopper, its a putty that air drys and is ment to fill deeper scratches and chips that you can base over..
which I presume is better than normal filler?
Yeah, as you'll need to primer over normal filler, before paint.
seconded:thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Benn
polyester filler is the name of stopper.
Is good stuff.
Paint looks cool from pics matey :)
No its not, its green stopper or green putty, 3m make it.
no you apply in with a stanley blade, leave it for 5 mins and the a quick light wet and dry over and your ready to paint
so in theory its exactly the same as polyester filler.
removes pinholes, scratches, cracks etc.
So, its been a week since they were painted, and we decided not to re-base coat them and then lacquer them, we just hit it straight with the lacquer, and it took to fine.
One wing in for the shine
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1082.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1083.jpg
One lacquered, but not flatted off, one not
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1084.jpg
Bonnet before and after lacquerage
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1085.jpg http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1086.jpg
Got them home tonight, bolted them all up, refitted bonnet pins and catches, and decided to take some pics...
So then... 3 door hatch with front loon wings - you decide (I personally like it lol) - oh, they've still not been flatted back, gonna give it a couple of days to go 'ard
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1087.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1088.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1089.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1090.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1091.jpg
w000t, despite neither of us ever sprayed properly before, I'm happy with the results, thanks once again to nova ian for the help today.
I think the main aim has been acheived, as you can see I could drop it another foot at the front without it catching like it used to lol
Would like your comments :)
looking good! paint job is better than some of the bodyshops i know lol looks good wings seem to work aswell! 1 peice bumper looks loads better imo
olly, i've missed the reason why you've gone to loon wings? Thought you had f/g front wings?
lookin hard as btw! (front bumper needs heat gunning/painting imo.)
Kris - yeah, they're by no means perfect, but 10x better than I ever thought they'd come out, and still more to come with some flattage. The colour match is spot on aswell, which is always a gamble with such a peculiar colour, metallic, and the rest of the car being 20 years old lol
John - I had FG wide wings, well I actually still have them in my shed, but decided not to fit them due keeping standard rear width. Wide fronts, standard rears works so well on Oli's car, but didn't look right on mine. So I've gone for loon wings which are widee as standard than 3dr wings, and the fact they're round enables me to lower the car even more to lower the COG, and clearence is much better now they're lip-less, all function orientated :)
I don't think a darker front bumper would look that nice with the colour of my car, I like it light grey - but I might 'shop it, and see how it would look :thumb: Also I like the retro-ness of it being faded as hell, I wouldn't want it looking new
Ahh i see! i never knew loon wings were wider than hatch!
Top work on the spraying. Can do some mega slammage with those wings now :cool:
Personally i dont like the look of them, just doesn't go with box/square rear arches... But thats a minor thing considering they've solved a few problems for you :)
Paint looks good dude, come up quite flat good work.
I really like the loon/5door front arches on there.
Looks tastey.
Love it! the wings look good and the whole car looks purposeful like it could rip you in half. The paint came out really well and you deserve a pat (just one though) on the back for your efforts top job!
Did you get my PM?
Adam - I've just asked the wings, and they said they didn't like the look of you either lol lol
Benn - so would you recommend me using 1500 grit to get them shiney shiney... will this also reduce the little bit of orange peelyness I have?
James - thanks pal, function over form :thumb: and PM replied... took me an age to do! lol
Thanks for the reply mate i appreciate it was a pain in the ass to answer but great info :thumb:
Yes, being very carefull of all edges and swages lines, and anywherre you flat off you need to be able to polish up, so dont go in to any hard to get to areas you cant get in to.Quote:
Originally Posted by trackdaynova
A foam block will also help makes it easier to flat no finger marks. (can lend you mine if you want)
Try a bit of 2500grit paper, start on a bigger bit of the pannel, you want it to look like this when youve flatted it back.
You can see the orange peel going.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g/IMG_4232.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...updatesaug.jpg
Dont need to be a dull looking. All depends on how flat(shiney) you want the paint. If its not working so much with 2500 then try 2000 or 1500 (can send you a sheet if you need) Ues warm soapy water and keep it wet.
Good advice there Benn!
Cheers for the group buy link BTW Olly great idea IMO!
Cheers J
Colour match looks great in the pics Olz!
You just need to weld the next bit on the back and slam it ;)
lol @ weld the next bit on the back! te he he
Cheers Si, yeah, I'm happy with how the match turned out, will take a couple of daylight pics over the next couple of days too...
I hear you need some help on yours, no?
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Originally Posted by trackdaynova
Not sure what you mean unless you're referring to the comments to Benn in the winter thread? I've been down to see Benn and the mincers several times and he's never been up to me and seeing as I'm getting bored of drilling spot welds out now would be a good time! lol Got to take out all the seat rails and the bar that runs from side to side across the tunnel.
Ahhh gotcha, yeah I knew I'd read something about you getting fed up of something else lol
I'm just getting bored of drilling directly over the spot weld and still missing and end up going thru! Gonna just use the grinder from now on lol
Got a welder sorted out today too so will be handy to have in the shop.
Looking good Olly, the wings look weird and kinda cool at the same time! In one of the those pics its looks like your o/s rear window has popped out :)
Wow wow weeeee waaarrr, wings and bonnet look wicked on the car! :cool:
I know we were a little concerned about colour match, but I don't think we could've asked for better
Looks top notch, and as for helping out, anytime mate:thumb:
i think it looks ubber hardcore with those wings and actually doesnt look that weird with the different style arches front and back
lol lol lol :pQuote:
Originally Posted by trackdaynova
OK then, so today I achieved what I have been working towards for along time now, that it's all worked out fine, apart from uncovering some more problems that I will need to sort out.
Some daylight pics of my car to show the colour match and 'un flatted' finish on the wings and bonnet...
As you can see - I have been playing with the ride height just to see what my options are available to me, and I'm pleased to say that even at the height below, I get no scrubbing problems on either lock, or when just driving (albeit, only to my road and back, due to being full race slicks lol)
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1095.jpg
So in a straight line, you can see that the lipless round arches are a godsend when it comes to clearence, as they'd usually have hit
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1097.jpg
Still have circa 8mm outwardly clearence, which could enable me to up my 5mm spacer, to 7mm, to aid spring clearence
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1098.jpg
Lowwwwwwwwww, Benn would be so proud
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1099.jpg
So... my right lock isn't a problem, it only stops night of "full lock" due to the inside of the rear part of the tyre hitting the inner arch, or the passenger tyre hitting the end case of the gearbox, neither of which is a problem
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1100.jpg
As you can see, I could afford to drop it even more should I want to, but I probably wont... or might lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1101.jpg
Left lock is the same as it always has been, just stops when the front leading inside edge hits the inner wing, which is also fine
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1102.jpg
Increased the castor again, now this is the absolute maximum you can achieve with running an XE, with the oil filter in the standard location, so without going to a remote filter, this will do for now lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1105.jpg
TCAs are now rising towards the outside of the car, as opposed to going down, but the tiebars would now plunge down towards the front of the car, so I will remove my lowering block to bring them back level, should I decide to stay at this height
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1104.jpg
And my new fave pic of the car...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...ure/nc1103.jpg
OMFG, that looks awesome. Theres something about it that looks cool as fook :cool:
I spose the 5dr wings are ok, in that pic anyway :p