Good work,
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Good work,
Such an awesome project you have there. I hope you don't mind but these two images came up on my facebook about a rwd nova being built for autograss.
I think it looks superb.
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8-15-50-04.png
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...9-15-52-04.png
Those arches actually look similar size and position on the car as to what I need. I wouldn't have mind coming out straight like that tho but good to see something similar, thanks!
So progress this weekend on the rear half of the cage. Need to build in the rear strut tops next. I'll let the pics do the talking...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...F0929A1ED9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...2E9769CACA.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...24BA8C6B31.jpg
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Looking good mate, good to see you the other day :)
Cheers James and you too. I'll be back soon for more tube I should think! lol
lovely work, this will be one serious nova when built.
Cheers john and hopefully!Quote:
Originally Posted by jonn
Feeling motivated I got in a few more hours tonight as I had a free evening!
Tonights topic was turret tops! Talking about the rears first, as you probably noticed in my pics in the previous post the std s14 shocks will sit very high, too high! I need them around 5" lower. Quick chat with Driftworks today and they confirmed that the earlier s13 shocks are 110mm shorter and they can happily do me a set of the s13 coilovers but with s14 top mounts. Perfect! Here's a shot of where they'll be for comparison....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...1B4A902669.jpg
I then did a lot of staring at the rear end and believe I now have a plan of attack on how to tie in the rear shocks but need to get some more tubing first!
So that brings us on to the front turret tops. In a recent visit to the good chaps James & Ash at Relentless Performance where I picked up some more tubing they were also kind enough to bend me some pipe to 110deg which my bender can't do! This will be used to remake the turrets, I'll let the pics do the talking from here...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...8C4B3A6BC2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...63ECD0173E.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...A222C76296.jpg
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I won't lie, it was a pig to do with so much cut, tweak, check, tweak, check, cut, tweak, you get the idea. Its only tacked in but already much stronger than the other side and doesn't move at all. Need to make the plate for the top to tag it into the actual turret next.
Thats all for now, thanks for looking.
Looking good mate, glad we could help out :)
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Originally Posted by Jonlem
I'll be back again soon for some more tubing and maybe a couple more bends! lol
lol, anytime mate :)
Not a great deal of time free for the car this weekend but did get a few hours in this morning, so now they're not required I chopped out the box rails from within the cabin. This meant I can try my seats for fitment. Its going to be tight around the tunnel but I always knew that. With the seats right back where I want them the seat wings are also a tight fit but look doable. If not, then normal, un-winged seats certainly will. Gear lever seems in a good position too. The seats will be fixed position and floor mounted pedal box adjustable. Putting together the long steering column will be interesting and steering wheel will have to be quick release to aid getting in and out!
Picking up some more tubing this week the next weekend will hopefully see the upper half of the rear cage largely completed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ECACD5E427.jpg
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Can't wait to get this rolling now!
Love how far back you'll be sitting.
Lol sitting in the boot ftw!
Si,
So the rear sumframe is connect to the cage, but where does the cage mount to in the rear? As surely just hanging from the cage part at the front wont be strong enough will it?
Its got to be tagged into the top of main hoop yet as well as the turrets too. So rear end will be connect top, middle & bottom of the main hoop which in turn will be connected top, middle & bottom of the front end. You then have the tunnel and floor structure too.
Ive got to add some strength into the rear of the shell yet tho as its a tad floppy at the moment! I will do this when i build the boot floor for the fuel tank & pumps.
Ah cool, was just thinking as i looked at the pics. Sure you can tag the shell to the cage as you go.
Oh sorry you mean the shell! Yeah its obviously attached at cage feet, will be tagged in on a & b pillars, probably along bottom rear window line, the bulkhead, the floor and also rear bulkhead. So should be pretty stiff!
Sorry no i ment the cage and rear subframe, i added the shell bit in as you said it was a bit floppy
The main body is pretty darn stiff already, its just the rear quarters are obviously currently floating! lol
lol oh yeah didn't think of that, wheel tubs will help that.
Something like this for the rear then? Just with a different suspension set up? And maybe less tubing..
http://content6-foto.inbox.lv/albums...orsport/33.jpg
That looks a bit special!
it'll be all pretty stiff trust me! Possibly even overkill but will look :cool:
Have you not seen the build? It's frigging awesome!
http://content6-foto.inbox.lv/albums...orsport/73.jpg
http://content23-foto.inbox.lv/album...orsport/85.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Md198drmw
http://drift.com.ua/forums/index.php...d=158061&st=0&
Oh my Benn, that is stunning! Got my mind whirring away now! Lol
Yeah, see where some of my ideas for your frame and bits have come from? Been reading a few of these, Theres a whole thread full of them on mig at the mo.
got the link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benn
Looking good! just realised your not too far from me aswell, take it youll be a regular at snetterton then? :)
If snetterton is still there when I finish! lol
Thread here. Alot of amazing threads....
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/proje...-internet.html
Took a trip down to Relentless Performance yesterday to collect some more tubing and had a good thrash out of ideas with Ash on rear cage/chassis design. This is the decided direction....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ova/Cage2.jpeg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ova/Cage3.jpeg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ova/Cage1.jpeg
Top Down
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ova/Cage4.jpeg
Underside
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ova/Cage5.jpeg
Ash quite rightly pointed out that with the seat so far back I needed to extend the rear protection zone.
The triangular parts will be the rear turret tops.
One of the consequences of the design was building a nice enclosed area above the diff for the fuel tank to go!
EDIT: I have just noticed one error made and that is that the 2 two tubes that come together on the main hoop each side actually meet higher up with the horizontal. Doesn't effect the principle design however.
Looks nice, i knew that BMW thread would help..lol
There certainly is some influences in there! lol
I've also been hatching a plan to remove the body from the space frame in order to get everything all welded up properly etc. Think I've got it sorted in my head, just need to look at the car now and see if its pheasable!
For further inspiration, I would recommend a look at this;
http://www.uphillracers.com/showthre...ibre-5673.html
It's a Spaceframed and RWD Peugeot 205, the quality of the work is simply exceptional, as is the spec. of the components being used.
Thanks Colin, there's my evenings reading :)
Shame the pics are so small and have to keep clicking on them tho :(
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Originally Posted by novarally
WOW!!! What a truly amazing build that is! Can't wait to see it finished. So much precision, skill and most importantly resources!!
Like the BM, removable rear shell at the Bpillar? lol
I intend to make the bonnet & wings as one fibreglass detachable unit (eventually) but haven't quite figured out the back. I need to gain access to weld around the top parts of the cage so its either cut holes in the roof then repair, remove the whole roofskin and replace (whether its easy enough to replace the same skin again I have no idea!) or try and remove the whole body. If I remove the whole body, I'm not sure whether to then keep it removable and how easy thats going to be with need to tag it into the cage, seal bulkheads etc. I've come a long way with the build the last 6months and still have a good way to go and don't want to do something thats going to really set me back, you know?
Could you not just spot the cage up. Drop it down, weld the outer parts of the cage. Refit it and weld the rest and tag it to the pillars and bits?
I know it's a bit of messing. But just be easier than cutting the roof/pillars up....
That 205 build is ace, read that before. His welding is fantastic. I really want to be able to weld properly.
Maybe.... This.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psc089498d.jpg
To do this....
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For this...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ps738a0f1b.jpg
Bit of messing about after tho.....