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I always love news like that :).Quote:
Originally Posted by ade
Woop Woop!!
I had this problem when I had my rear arches, rear panel and front panel done. If you wanna put the fear of god up him suggest that you'd like to come and take some WIP photo's lol.Quote:
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good plan - Im of work this Wednesday so intend to take a trip down. I'm also off work Friday so will tell him I'd like to collect it then - for cash...might be a nice incentive...
I am also off work on Friday as its my 24th :D
WHOOOOO!
GOT THE NOVA BACK TODAY WITH NEW PANEL ON IT!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/f4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/f3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/f2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/f1.jpg
Jobs a goodun and pretty cheap too - so much so that I treated myself to an new adjustable strutbrace and pipercross cone air filter!
He also cracked my nuts (oo - rephrase that) - on my suspension so I can fit poly bushes
Ades big garage is back on track!
Plans for this weekend -
Get some ramps and some other bits n bobs
strip the engine bay and clean it up (de rust)
strip suspension and start to clean up
start work on light housings and bonnet.
That'll do for now - I'll post and stick up pics as I go!
Ade (getting all excited like its christmas lol!)
New shiny metal, nice :)
crickey! that nova has took a slap to the chin!
lol - it needed it!
Saturday 22nd July 2006
Ok, Ade's garage rebuild starts after a fecking HUGE stall (I need to learn how to weld!)
Spent most of the morning at Halfords and other motor factors getting odds and sods including car ramps filler and glass fibre...
The plan today was to focus on the lights and creating or at least thinking about how I was going to mount them on the nova shell. I needed to line them up so I could use the positions to creats templates to cut metal sheet from.
As you can see from the pics in other posts Id cut my old light housings away. This was done because they were both rusted pretty badly and there was no point in keeping them because the Punto lights I intend to use will not fit in the existing housings.
SO - the 1st thing I had to do was work out how to get both sides to line up correctly. The difficulty is you cant just take a tape measure to it because of the infamous Nova tolerances. I started by bolting on my new patern wings. Had to do a little grinding at the front to get them to fit and line up but I expected that.
Once in place I knew I had to cut away the section that sits underneath the lights. It was at this point I wish I'd got mk1 wings - would have saved a heap of time! I then placed the Punto lights in rough positions.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights004.jpg
The next step was how do I ensure theyre the right height and position (angle wise). This took me ages to work out but basically I took a large sheet of card and laid it against one wing and took measurements. That way I could see exactly where I wanted the lights to go, how they lined up against the card and could use the exact dimensions of the car to replicate the detail on the other side.
With these measurements recorded, I took a peice of flat thin wood and laid it across the front of the car between the wings so it was right at the front of each wing tip. As both wings "should" be horizontal to each other (+-0.5mm) I figured that it was as good a guide as any. I took further measurements at set intervals along the plank to the scuttle panel to ensure each side matched. I then used the card measurements to bolt the lights in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights012.jpg
Once in place, I removed the bumper (which I was using as a rough guide) and then spent a while tweeking the positions, cutting and trimming inner wing so the lights would sit correctly etc).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights014.jpg
The next task was to try and work out the best way of securing each light in position from the underside 1st, then how to build upper mountings which could be joined on to the original slam panel (or what was left of it).
I started making very rough card inserts and playing abot with them as supports that would interlock. This seems to work but I need to spend more time taking proper measurements (thats Sundfays task).
In addition to this I discovered (I kind of knew from before I started the project) that the radiator side mounting was in the way! This is somethijng I need to try and find a solution for. the obvious choice is to move the radiator about an inch to the drivers side however I dont really want to have to start cutting holes in my brand new lower panel! (I'm open to suggestions on how I can remidy this!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights018.jpg
This is the state of the car a present...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../lights021.jpg
Food stuffs
Managed to consume 4 cups of coffee and a HUGE bacon sandwich.
Personal Injury
Sunburn - although I didnt know it at the time - itrs been pretty overcase all day...stings like f00k!
nasty cut on right index finger off a metal edge - thought Id need stitches (man flu stylee) - bugger wouldnt stop bleeding..
Right - off to try and work out these mountings...
more tomorrow...
Ade
:thumb:
loving the progress fella :thumb:
your a god :thumb:
lol - I do my best...
Sunday 23rd July 2006 - 8.30am
Up early - couldnt sleep ( kept seeing images of fitting my lights and cardboard shapes! :wtf: - v sad).
Plan today is to make up the base plates for the lights and get them ligned up ready for the back panels and slam panel.
First task was to secure the side mounting. Punto lights have 4 mounting points - as you look at the light - 2 on the top, 1 on the left (where the grill is) and one on the right side at the back. This one clips into a securing panel with a slider. You can see the arm in the bottom right of the light housing on the pic below.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/DSCF0003.jpg
The lights (to the base of the housing) sit 51cm from ground level and 58cm to just under the clear casing (23"). The side mounting needed to be lined up carefully as this provides the anchor point for the rest of the mounts and allows the light to be positioned properly.
A simple bracket did the job. It was held in place with a rivet to start with until the exact position could be worked out. It will be reinforced later once the rest of the housing is built.
Once that was done I needed to build the support in which the lights would sit. The underside of Punto lights is flat with except for the rear where the access panels are to get to the bulbs - that sticks down.
First job was to make a metal base plact that fit snuggly to the underside of the lights. This would act as the baseline from which the front supports would be secured to giving rhe lights a firm position.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/DSCF0032.jpg
Once this was completed I started work on the front support. This would be rivetted directly on to the lower panel and act as an extension of the same. It's basically a t shape made from 1 sheet of metal folded. Small cuts were made so that it didnt foul the bumper carriage mounting points. To ensure the position was exact the plate was positioned with the new light base plate and light resting on it. (you can see the side bracket in this pic)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/DSCF0024.jpg
From this measurements were taken and the plate rivited in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/DSCF0034.jpg
The base plate for the lights will be rivetted in place last as this needs to be spot on to prevent the lights being out of line.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/DSCF0033.jpg
The next task is to fill the void between the inner wing and the new front lower panel. Another plate was needed which had to fit snuggly and provide rigidity to the front panel and the inner wing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/SCF002.jpg
The base plate for the lights was then placed back and the light refitted to ensure it was snug.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/SCF004.jpg
The top support arms of the front extension can be adjusted to allow for the angle and once the baseplate is secure the correct pitch can be set.
Throughout the wing was placed against the housings to ensure it still fitted. With the new plates in place, the wing slots on and off without any fuss at all (result!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/SCF008.jpg
The next step is to secure the lower base plate and build the rear of the housing.
It all then needs seam sealed and smoothed.
(for reference the metal used is galvanised steel).
Still need to find a way of relocating the radiator...
Ade
:cool:
cant wait until its finished :thumb:
Those punto lights aren't a bad fit into the wing are they.
Have you thought about getting a custom rad made up?
Might be easier to fit one in the space you have.
This is a big job ade and your having a bloody good go at it.
I think we should start a campaign to have your avatar changed to "legend"
coudn't agree more ;) .. absoloutly ace keep up the good work :thumb:Quote:
I think we should start a campaign to have your avatar changed to "legend"
lol. Thanks but I like muy avatar as it is although miss the "haggis eating post shlag" that used to be above it!
Monday 24th July 2006
Hard day at work so didnt get much done tonight. Finished the drivers side and plated up the wing to the lower section.
I'm off work tomorrow but promissed the missus I'd do things with her seeing as how I spent most of the weekend on the car. Might get a play later tomorrow afternoon.
Plan is to mount the baseplates, reinfotce the fronts to make them sturdy and create backs so they sit snug. Then I can work on the tops for the slam panel...
Might have a tinker with the radiator aswell - see if I cant fashion something up...
Tuesday 25th July - the day I almost died!
lol
Been out with the wife all day and thought I'd come back and do a little bit of work on my lights - needed to add strength to the inner parts of the base plates to give them support.
Before I could do this I had to bolt the carriage bar in place and was happily tightening the bolt away when
SLIP!
the ratchet slipped off the nut, my hand shot down and my wrist sliced into the side edge of my new lower panel.
Cut me right on the artery!
:O
Luckily it wasnt quite deep enough to spurt but started bleeding quickly and the skin parted nicely - had a total panic and almost whitied (as you do when you cut yourself) - stoodf over the sink with my hand under the tap sweating buckets!
Feckin horrible - heres the evidence!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/cut1.jpg
doesnt look too bad - manageed to squeeze the skin together and so far it stuck on its own accord. Possibly a stitch job - if it pops I'll go to the hospital later...
So word of warning - if your working on your car look at whats round you before doing owt! Risk assessment people! May save your life!
lol
lol i had one of those
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/at...2&d=1152886328
Yeah Baxter, yor wrist!!!
Yeah Baxter, yor wrist!!!
Me: How the feck did you manage that!!
Baxter: Remeber that side window i asked you for??
Me: Yeah?
Baxter: Well i feel through one and done this ^^^ and now need a replacement!
PMSL The other week on MSN when you told me how you done that!! But yes, I can see the lesson from thsi, same as what i did, stabbed myself in the wrist with a MIG welder and burnt to the bone!! Yuooooooooooooooooooch!!
dont look to nice there .. as you said maybe a stitch or two
whats up with all them deleted messages??
Oh my PC threw a fit and posted 7 variations of the same reply!!! WTF??
lol - woke up this morning after about 2 hrs sleep and wrist was really sore - also still bleeding a bit so am gonna go to docs. cant really move it as get sharp pains which means i can only use left hand (no jokes!)
i'll prob get hand strapped up to prevent it moving...
Best to get it checked.
When was your last tetinus?
You might need to get pricked again ;)
doc said it was fine - all bits working anjd skin had resealed very well - bruised a tad and aches but said just keep a plaster on it and try not to knock it. Gonna leave the car till the weekend let it heal.
Took delivery of more stuff today - got my spanking new adjustable strut brace (?40 ebay), new pipercross induction kit, some rivets (200 big uns for ?5 - ebay) and some lego so I can build wallks for my model moulds...
Still waiting on chassis paint and some tetrosyl shutz stone chip sealer and that'll do for now...
Models, yeah right!!!! Meh, your gonna be making little Lego villages again arnt you PMSL lol lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ade
The headlights look like they will overhang the front bumper.....
Regarding the cuts to Ade & Baxters skin. Use superglue (no joke)
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you can change it to that if you want yourself...
go here : http://www.novaload.net/forum/profil...do=editprofile
and you will see custom title further down the page ;)
cars looking good, nice work fella
car looking cool i think the lighjts will look the nuts, any other cool ideas your getting done ? both of your cut looks nasty, iv got a scare on one wrist from fix a mate push bike and sliped with mole grips painful
Timmy
ade - when you cut your hand was the blood projectile, i was more angry about my blood hitting my nice new paintwork, did not really care about the ft of blood flying out my wrist lol
nah - wasnt a spurt job - it bled but not that much - it was more the shock that hit me - the thought of nearly slicing a main vein made me panic! (I HATE blood) - seeing it pulse under the skin didnt help either.
Craig - the lights stick out over the bumper about 4 inches! The reason for that is because the Punto lights are curved unlike the Nova ones - I plan to build a custom front bumper following the curve of the lights based on the OPC corsa concept with Monaro style side skirts and a custom rear end, smoothed boot and custom interior - see the draft pics on earlier pages (1 to 5) for rough ideas...
I pretty much have everything i need - hoping to get more of the lights done this weekend although have plans for Friday and Saturday night so work will be limited. If I can get the housings for the lights I can start on the wings - then move onto the bumper...
Doesn't involve pints does it?:DQuote:
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lol - a little!
Friday 11/08/2006
Pretty good day on the rebuild. Did more on the lights and started building the boxes to support the backs and top.
First though I had to play on ebay and after a bit of close bidding won a 7" touch screen monitor for my in dash PC. Paid ?120 which is over half the price of these things new, so am well chuffed!
My wrist has healed upo nicely but to be on the safe side I masked off all sharp edges! Also wore a coiuple of sweat bands - felt like some 80's FAME disco dancer! lol
First task was to rivet the base plates in place and support the fronts of the lights (they stick out approx 4" over the lower front valance)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights30.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights31.jpg
I used galvanised brackets from B&Q - they fit snug behind the carriage bar and fit perfectly.
Heres both sides complete -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights29.jpg
Theyre perfectly and are very firm however they still have enough play in them to adjust if I need to - this will stop though as soon as I build the rear, side and top supports.
My biggest problem is still the radiator which is right up to the back of the offside light housing. The main problem comes if I need to remove the back to change a bulb - could prove difficult. Spent ages thinking how I could get round it but think I've found a method that doesnt result in me removing the front of the car and then the light unit itself!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights26.jpg
This pic shows the cardboard template - note the black section to the right. This is where the main light unit cover is. You can see the arfeas on the left that need cutting away so I can get access to the left side too.
The following pics show the top section as well as the radiator in position and just how neat it is.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights28.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights27.jpg
From this I'll tweek the templates (thres 5 sections that make up the housing), then make it out of sheet metal. This section will join onto the original centre slam panel at the corner of each light again using sheet metal. It should be rigid enough but to make sure I'm using 1.2mm sheet bent at the edges to act as a support.
Inhjuries
Didnt cut myself today (although did drag my knuckles along the wall which was sore!)
Drinks
only 2 cups of coffee! Must be a world record for the least amount drunk!
lol
I may consider relocating the rad 1" to the left - Will need to make some kind of platfoorm/support that will slot into the oringinal rubber feet, allowing me to slot the bottom of the rad onto the platform and then lock it in place...
not sure though...
Great work Ade!!!
Cant wait to see the finished product, have you not thought about getting a smaller radiator? I dont see waht other options there could be other than re-locating it
Keep up the good work:thumb:
Heres the radiator idea - bought the parts today and it shuld work -
Posted a thread a while back looking for a solution to moving my rad as part of my rebuild.
problem is my new Punto lights were obstructing the passenger side mount and I needed to move across 2" or so. I didnt really want to drill new mounting holes in my new lower valance so after thinking long and hard came up with this solution.
Take 1 U shaped metal bar and sit radiator in it through 2 drilled holes.
Need to drill to small 1cm holes for the new radiator pegs - but these are more for additional support.
Where the existing mounting points were, drop 2 screws which will be self tapped into the U bar into the holes. Because the ends of the radiator (the plastic bits) are wider that ther actual rad itself, you need to cut 2 sections out of it. This is handy because it stops the rad moving about and lock it in place making a perfect cradle!
Secure the tops and sides by drilling out the existing mounting point welds and remounting with either rivets or new welds -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/danga/rad1.jpg
I've yet to actually do it but I cant see why it wont work.
Saturday 12/08/2006
Plan today was to make the metal surrounds for the lights. Fisrstly I purchased the stuff I needed for the rad relocation (see above) - simply 2 L shaped bars with channels cut in them (like mechano) - nice and thick for strength and when bolted together a perfect fit for the rad.
The lights
Using the card templates I cut out the sections out of sheet galvanised steel 1.2mm thick. Didnt appreciate how tough this would actually be and it took pretty much all day! not looking forward to doing the other one tomorrow (dont even know if I'll be able to my hands are so stiff!)
Once the patterns were cut out it was a case of bend to fit and then tweek.
I made 5 sections as follows -
1 x back section that supports the rear of the lights allowing access
1 x side section that fits wound the outside of the inner wing and provides support for the light side
1 x front end section and supports the inside part of the light and provides a mounting point for the centre mount
1 x top section that provides a mount for the 2 top mounting points a strengthens the top section making the lights secure
1 x bracket shape to link the existing extension at the front to the new front end section and provide support underneath.
The entire structure fitted pretty well and provides good access to the back. I mounted it temporarily using macking tape and when assembles it was really tough! The light is held firm. It'll be really strong once revitted together and then screwed to the light.
Here was the original card template -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights26.jpg
Heres the actual metal surround held in place with tape -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights40.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights39.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights37.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights36.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/lights38.jpg
Tomorrows game is to bolt this in place and then do the other side...
looking sweet ade dude,
one of the reason i checked back was to see how this was getting on...
I think you should get you're own thread made though without all the comments that only you can post on so we can see all progress from start to finish over the least amount of pages!
Keep on it dude ;)