Love the dimma r5's look the part, I was looking at a Areg 11000 miles from new turbo 2 the other day at my mates garage they are a lovly bit of kit :)
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Love the dimma r5's look the part, I was looking at a Areg 11000 miles from new turbo 2 the other day at my mates garage they are a lovly bit of kit :)
Until the head gasket goes pop ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cle
A friend with one reckons they're as reliable as any car though if they have the uprated gasket and are warmed up properly :)
^This is trueQuote:
Originally Posted by MK1_Ben
I'm absolutely gutted, I had the chance yesterday to buy a lovely Turbo 2 in need of some restoration, with a Tour de Corse gearbox/LSD in it for £9k, and just before I said 'yes', someone had got there before me with a deposit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cle
I one i was looking at is for sale but with a huge price tag lol it has original back tires fronts got changed as they were perished apart from the front tires and brake pads and disc's is completely original and mint condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by novarally
How huge a price tag, out of idle curiosity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cle
There's been one advertised for a long while at a shade over £30k.
i saw one a good few years back on a driveway and the lad said it had been a max power project car & had £85k spent on it....he'd bought it with a std engine and most of the 'expensive' stuff taken off.....he got upset when i told him i didn't think he'd got a good deal.
News about the old engine makes me a bit sad, but so long as something will replace it eh?
heres a Dimma 5 in better shape, Image wheels again! 3 spokes.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ttwidearch.jpg
^nommy yummy.
I used to work with a bird whos dad owns Image alloy wheels.
did she look after the guide dog?
Ahhh i loooove dimma r5's. Were one of my favourite cars back in t'day
my old one :)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._4705935_n.jpg
thats fooking cool :cool:
How much power?
bang on lol £30kQuote:
Originally Posted by novarally
Colin, I think I can help you with the brazillian parts (coz I'm here in Brazil)
I don't know if you sourced everything you need, but here we go with some info:
Today the 1.0L sohc used here on Corsa B, Corsa C, etc have 79HP when burning ethanol, and little less (around 75HP) with gas. They are around 12.4:1 CR
The 1.4L version has 105HP on ethanol, 12.4 CR and survives our crappy gas heheh. Very very well programmed ECU and a lot of these little helpful detonation sensors :d
The hardpoints (is ok? I'm talking about the engine mounting points) are the same. We had here the same Corsa B GSI you had there (it was imported to Brazil) and the engine block still the same till today.
The head is different since 2005. Smaller hydraulic lifters, rollers on the carriers (I don't know if its right, its the part that is in contact with the camshaft) and sodium exaust valves.
Well, sorry about my English..it's rubbish I know.
Montemor.
Ah, some pics:
1.0 16v:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/...850_z.jpg?zz=1
1.016.v por gm FAMILIA 1, no Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3424/...4d0_z.jpg?zz=1
1.0 16v por gm FAMILIA 1, no Flickr
1.4 8v 105HP head
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/...4f0_z.jpg?zz=1
camara do cabeçote 1.4 por gm FAMILIA 1, no Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3431/...b2e_z.jpg?zz=1
cabeçote motor econoflex 1.4 por gm FAMILIA 1, no Flickr
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/...6800bbea_z.jpg
Cabeçote do Econo.Flex por blackyo, no Flickr
1.0L block with 1.8L gasket
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/...09c_z.jpg?zz=1
bloco 1.0 com junta do motor 1.8 por gm FAMILIA 1, no Flickr
1.0L 8v 79HP
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/...8b3_z.jpg?zz=1
pistão 1.0 flex por gm FAMILIA 1, no Flickr
Hi Montemor, and thank you so much for your information. Do not worry, your English is excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbsmontemor
I'd been struggling to find someone in Brazil with technical knowledge, and who could speak English, I'm pleased you've stepped forward for the job!
There are lots of questions I have for now;
1. Can you confirm if the 1.0 block has the casting for the PAS (power steering) pump, the same as the Corsa B GSi would have had?
2. I'm unsure about the power/torque differences between the 1.0 8v and 1.0 16v engines, can you confirm?
3. As this will be the basis of a turbocharged racing engine, the 2005-on head with sodium filled exhaust valves sounds interesting! Was that 2005 change done to both the 8v and 16v heads?
4. Do you have any experience of turbocharging these engines? Or know anybody who has done this?
5. Are these engines easily available as secondhand units in Brazil? And what sort of prices do they sell for?
That's all for now, but I'm sure to think of more questions for you soon!
Thanks again for your help.
Colin
1. Take a look if this is what you talking about:Quote:
Originally Posted by novarally
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/...f4a4308cb7.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V_la5WHRKA...ES%2BANEIS.JPG
It's the "triangle" with these 3 threaded holes?
2. This 1.0 16v engine is old here in Brazil, it was made around 1997 and had 68HP, only gas, low compression engine.
The actual 1.0 8v engine is a "VHC" engine (Very high compression), with plastic intake manifold (better contruction form, better flow etc..) and has 79HP with ethanol.
Thats the gaph for 1997 gas engines, 1.0 8v and 1.0 16v
http://bestcars.uol.com.br/carros/gm...-16v-curva.gif
And thats the 79HP engine without cat:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3424/...37be6285_o.jpg
3. Since around 2000 the only car that came with these Smallblock 16v is the Meriva. And only 1.8L. This 1.8L engine is the same you had there.
Today all smallblock engines are sohc "VHC" engines.
4. I own a Corsa C 1.4L VHC (EconoFlex) with 105HP. It was turbo some time ago but as a student at night and working at day I have no time to mess around with it.
79HP 1.0L with a K14 turbo @ 0.8 bar produces around 140HP, stock internals, plastic intake manifold
My car (1.4L) with a K16 @ 1.0 bar results in 223 HP, stock internals, plastic intake manifold
There are a lot of these turbo'ed engines here.
1.0L 79HP stock internals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aABlZX1vurw
1.0L old head (same as yours) 245HP, crappy ECU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Bg06hnyHk
And my car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F42ay6GCt18
5. There are a lot of these engines here. Used, new...I think the problem is to find a way to send them to you. We have some rigid laws about selling automotive parts to other contries.
My 2c:
I would keep the 1.2L crank. Our 1.0L engines has no torque at all and I think you gonna lost driveability with 1.0L crank
I think you could use your bottom and the brazillian 1.4L head, as it has a lot more potential for power. I don't have pictures but I can tell you, the newer head ducts are a lot larger than the old head.
The only problem is that this new head uses a different camshaft, because the multiplying factor is different on these heads.
Feel free to ask anything else :thumb:
Montemor.
At last Colin you've the Brazilian contact you needed, best of luck in sorting your new build looks like it's about to become a lot easier :)
Wow, thats a miracle lol I've given him some well earned rep for the above posts :thumb:
Spooky how he happened accross this discussion at precisely the right time.
Welcome btw Montemor. I'd like to see any info you have on the K14 & K16 turbo's & manifolds used on these small block engines.
Thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by craig green
We have here only the diesel versions of these turbochargers. They are a little different talking about the power output. This K16 is nice to a little over 300HP and is available with 3 different hot housings, with or without reflow (I don't know how you call the "lip" on the cold housing intake)
These turbos are available with titanium or aluminium rotors.
We have some cast iron manifolds available to this engine, with variations to fit all cars that came with the engines. They are T3 or T2 flange.
That's the one used on my car (T3 flange)
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5398/dsc00191ea.th.jpg
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My K16 (Hot housing size 5, the smallest, as they at BorgWarner names. They do not inform the A/R)
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5015/dsc00195.th.jpghttp://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7...c06330t.th.jpghttp://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7...06322ap.th.jpg
Some other manifolds to this engine:
http://img2.mlstatic.com/s_MLB_v_O_f_164439244_3256.jpg
http://www.spaturbo.com.br/joomla/co...4c0c739b76.jpg
Some diesel K16 videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrrytDyin5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8UNwpHfD4A
Montemor.
Cold housing with the "lip" (we call over here as "Reflow")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dziAyVG_9TU
What a guy, I've been hoping a blonde porn star with massive tits and atastefor 6ft6 Bristolians who live in Belgium and called Ben, well colins wish came true!
/\ lol
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Ben again.
holy **** montemor, so serious awesome info, any chance of pics of the heads? could even start your own question and answers thread to be honest
Does nobody recognise those manifolds......
Couple of years ago, bloke selling turbo kits for GM 8v motors on eBay from Europe....
Got my Nova back last Friday, after it was fitted with 4 new pistons, rings, shells, oil and water pump, and also had the sump modified to carry an extra litre of oil and more baffling as I was suffering some surge problems.
Race day on Sunday; Ran it up to temperature in the paddock, warmed the tyres up just before the start line and all sounded well. Pulled up to the start line only to hear and feel a big misfire........
Misfired it's way all up the hill.
Pulled the plugs out and No.3 no longer had a gap, clearly it had been hit by something. And a compression test found Zero compression on No.3.
So now it's gone back to the engine builder once again, and I'm waiting for a phone call to find out what's gone wrong.
It's not been a good season so far!
I'm now pushing ahead my longer term plans to build a completely new engine (see my thread in 'Mechanical').
Once I get the cash together I'm going to commission a 1000cc short-stroke all steel turbocharged engine, based on a 1600cc 16v motor, possibly using a Corsa VXR head.
hard luck with the engine, could a broken valve have caused the problem? were they standard or forged pistons?
As far as I can think, it's got to be either a broken valve, a broken piston ring or a piece of the piston has come off. Apparently there is no way that the piston could have touched the spark plug as the plugs are short-reach ones, and sit into a machined recess in the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonn
They were standard pistons.
As soon as I get the phone call from the engine builder, I will post up more info!
Today I am questioning the sanity of persevering with the Nova......it's been nothing but trouble this season, and has cost me an arm and 2 legs.
And the reason for the questions is this;
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/009-28.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/010-27.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/011-23.jpg
I've bought this Westfield, complete with a very nice trailer and a lot of spares, for a fraction of what the Nova has cost me to date.
Regular readers will know I've had Westfields before, and there's no doubt they are amazing value for money, but best of all great fun, which is after all the whole reason for playing with cars.
Aaah, a kitcar! I love it!
competitive or just for fun ? or will you use this and keep the nova to one side for another time ?
Depends if the Nova is repaired in time. I have a hillclimb booked in for the end of August, if the Nova isn't ready, or I'm not confident in it, then I shall be using the Westfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by calibra-keith
I just bought the Westfield as it was too much of a bargain to resist!
You want a smaller steering wheel on that :(
It's a bit of a handful with that wheel, I've been having fun re-learning RWD on the lawn today......good job it's nice and dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRoadGhost
Looks amazing mate,i say either break the nova/sell it on, or put it to one side, as I'm sure this will be far more competitive then the nova?
You have too much money to! lol
Be a real shame to see that nova broken for spares :(
Put it to one side if your fed up with it IMO