read the post, he said he's had to remove them,. due to not being abel to tighten the top bolt
edit - dam you Adam, you beat me to it lol
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read the post, he said he's had to remove them,. due to not being abel to tighten the top bolt
edit - dam you Adam, you beat me to it lol
Just give it some positive castor, put them both in the same position and get it to a wheel alignment place. They can tell you what castor, camber, toe it's running and should be able to adjust it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by chimp007_uk
This is the plan, to re-use the std Avo nuts, so i can get access to the piston flat to stop it from spinning.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...opmountmod.jpg
I never had this problem with my Avo's & top mounts mate. The weight of the car on the ground shou;d be ok to tighten/loosen.
With the eccentrics you should have...
spring - spring cup - lower collar - mount - upper collar - 2 avo nuts.
certain thats how I have mine.
gary did his to day with no problem what so ever did olly supply the top mount nuts.collars if so i belive that spax have different pitvh thread to avo lead etc as i had to tell them i had spax as they were different collars/nuts needed
Thats the plan as in my diagram above.....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Simps
But the upper collar is threaded itself, so you wouldn't need the 2 avo nuts.
My problem being the upper collar wont screw down the piston thread itself... So im going have to drill it out and just use it as a spacer, and then use the 2 avo nuts as normal..
Corsakid-Yes mate, there the ones off Olly's Spax setup, so that may explain why they dont screw on right.
i am almost certain spax have different pitch thread etc to leada avo's ie yours so would explain why they lock up after one turn
That would explain it. So drilling them out and then just sliding it down the threads is my only option.
It should be fine :)
or just pay a few quid for the correct collars lol
Nah, wheres me drill :D lol
my collars aren't threaded, they're just drill to slide over as spacers, there's no need for them to be threaded imo. they're are there as a spacer.
I drilled mine squiffy 1st time round so had to get some new ones from rally design, was only a few quid tho. Got a machine shop to quickly drill them for me for a drink.
I'll just drill them slightly to get rid of the threads. If it fcuks them then i'll buy some new,Lol.
Got back from work today and cracked on with removing the insert threads.
Weapon of choice:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1185Medium.jpg
One on the right done
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1184Medium.jpg
Test fit(nuts fitted loosely to check i can fit both on, i can :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1186Medium.jpg
Sorted :cool:
good stuff fella, nice work :)
I was going fit them, but stepped outside, saw snow/hail and thought Nahh lol lol
good pics Ad ;) nice to see you're getting them sorted :D
haha lol lol
Best pics my old digicam would manage with the flash turned off in a dull room :D
Right, back at it. And all went well, fitting wise.
Old Koni setup off, and coilover built up with 313lb 7" spring on, complete with alloy topmount
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1195Medium.jpg
Both sides done, and top mount set roughly to "11 o clock and 1 o clock"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1197Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1196Medium.jpg
(Ignore the 2nd set of holes, they were to sort the camber on the old suspension)
And who said Avo's dont go low :eek:
This is with an inch of thread left (jack is still holding the car up slightly as i couldn't remove it from under the crossmember, so its not fully down in this pic lol )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1199Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...1198Medium.jpg
And then went for a drive and thats where troubles started, pmsl.
Basically it drives/handles shockingly. The steering wheel is no longer straight, the car dives harshly to the left when you accelerate hard(nearly put me into a kerb), and it just seems to skip about all over the road. You can also feel every bump in the road through the front end of the car, and you seem to be fighting the steering to keep it in a straight line. It also seems easier to turn the steering wheel left, than right, if you get me.
Is a lot of that going to be down to the tracking needing setting up? Both topmounts look to be mounted in the same position.
Or Overstiff springs(altho i ran the same springs on std topmounts and they weren't half as bad as they are atm)
Think i'll be having a slow, calm drive to work tomorrow morning lol
Yes prob is tracking mate, had same prob when i fitted my coilys.
looking good Ad.
Adam, you might have an inch of thread left but, are you sure the pistons arn't all the way down, not allowing them to travel?
Theres no way i could lower my avo's that much without it seriously bottoming out!
Looks nice and low Ad.
You wanna be sorting that rust tho mate!
No idea mate, couldn't even see into the arch to check lolQuote:
Originally Posted by nathan.
Was just interested in how far they'd come down.
Ive got them wound right the way up now anyways, the spring platform is sitting about 2 inches or two above the tyre :thumb:
Where abouts do you have your topmounts sitting? Did you hack the edge of the turret???
Si-Its a 100k miles shell mate that gets driven hard daily, with an original engine bay,so bits of rust like that dont really bother me ;)
When the engines out sometime i'll see what i can do. With it being white, any spots of rust always look terrible anyways.
Looking good Adam!
My top mounts are the old TAS style with the circlip on the other side, so there like yours but upside down. This means for me, no turret mods were required.
Car looks Great!
must of taken alot of work!!!
Surely having the topmounts like that will have given you a lot of camber, I have mine off centre the other way slightly to try and save tyres a bit.
Any pics Lee?
You mean yours are more central, and back in the turret hole?
When i fitted my eccentric top mount son my coilovers, i had the exact same problems fitting them int he exact same place... would pull tot he left when you accelerated and right when you deccelerated... Removed them as i didn't have the time to get it tracked up, plus i got quoted £80+ for camber caster and toe :(
Like nathan, i fitted mine the other way round so the smaller extrusion was on show and ment i had better adjustment :)
Yep, but running them the other way is an arguement i cant be arsed with!! lol lol
I might give them a spin round tomorrow and try them more central.
I have used exactly opposite holes on the top mounts and have them at about 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock looking from the front of the car. Similar distance across to where you extra holes in the top mounts are for camber.
Mine mount the other way up though so have more adjustment.
Right, so yours are back but at the other side of the turret holes. Basically giving neutral camber?
Yes, gives me about 1 degree negative camber, where you have them will be about 3 degrees I reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
Will have a play tomorrow after work
I had my avos that low when i first got them on, awful drive! Used to skip on everybump that wasnt there, so bad i would be bounced off my seat and couldnt control the clutch on some roads lol
Would them up so that the piston had some travel and they were spot on!
I think thats how low Wilson runs his lol
And hes drove Pod/Billing etc and back, from Scotland lol
lol
Doesnt handle very well like that either! Have no grip to put your foot down because it skips on the bumps and just spins
You're running a 7" spring aswell remember where as the normal ones are 8". So you're really running with the platform right at the bottom if you have an inch left.
Aye true.
I didnt drive them that low this afternoon though :)
Have just wound the platform right up near the top of the thread to see if they drive any better when i try again tomorrow. With the spring wound up to about an inch and half from the top of the thread the car sits at the same height it used to with the platform 3/4s down on the standard top mounts lol
Mine drives nice wound right down. Doesnt skip at all.