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no you muppet, it was cheaper to pay the £150 and them keep my car than pay the £800 to have my car backQuote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
maybe if you'd have fully comp insurance youd have the fee's covered, or it was a non fault accident etc etc. i dont know enough of the facts about the incident and know doubt you'll just change them to suit your 'recovery companies are all robbing cnuts'
face it, you (feel like you) got stung - learn from it and move on :thumb:
whats all this talk about tachos ? making me hungry.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
can anyone explain what a tacho is please ? :thumb: :confused: is it some kind of recovery license ?
Yeah and he also said he had to turn lots of jobs away because he didn't have a depo to store the cars he was picking up :roll:
then says he wasn't get enough work offerd to him - Sorry but he was either turning work away or he wasn't getting the work offerd to him - So which was it ? Dont get me wrong I think he is a brave man for trying to start his own company but doing it on his own with just a recovery wagon and no depo to keep smashed up cars in proved to be a mistake maybe next time he might do his homework and realise you need a lot more than just a recovery wagon
As I was also complaining about the recovery companys that do have depos and just pick up cars that have been in a smash not companys that just move your car from one location to another location because you have rang them up and asked them to do it
a low loader is a 7.5 yes ? there for you can fit one car/van onto it at a time and must have a tacho in your 7.5 when driving it it's the law
Vans do have tachos in them delivery vans that carry over a certain amount of wieght in them have to be issued with a tacho in them ( Yes car companys do make vans that can carry move wieght than your normal every day van ) - I work for a delivery company as a drivers mate hence knowing this - Dont bother been a wagon driver because I get bad enough road rage just sat in the passanger seat lol - Also please remember you now have to do a towing licence if you are unlucky enough to pass your test after the new law came in - Plus you can only tow upto a certain wieght before your vechicle must have a tacho fitted so you can tow over the wieght limit as well as passing more tests to also tow over a certain wieght - We have loads of stupid laws in the u.k which unless your a Gypo have to follow
Stupid stuart who can't spell someones name right or read threads proper I have already said I didn't get payed out and had to pay for the car out of my own pocket which was my own fault taking out 3rd party insurance ;) as for admiting am wrong nar am far from wrong they are robbing *******s even if some people dont want to admit it
makes me laugh this forum so much because of how many people here think I must be wrong about everything just because I build my Nova different from everyone else lol but feel free to keep thinking like that because it gives me a good chuckle on my time off work :thumb:
^^ to much typed there, cant be bothered to read, can you do a quick summery:d
I wasnt trying to pick up smashed up cars,it was more breakdowns and movements i was doing. i had a beavertail transit with a winch and ramps to the back-not a tilt and slide or spec lift,so heavy accident damage got passed on.
If i had done every job i quoted for or turned away i would have been able to stay afloat.Ultimately as ive said 3/4/5 times now,there wasnt enough work at the end of the day.IF i had a tilt and slide 7.5 it would have maybe worked,as i could have catered for more situations.So your telling me people start off with top spec stuff and earn loads instantly?? get real,we all have to start somewhere and build up to things like depoTs etc.I dont have to explain myself anymore.
And diddums at thinking nobody likes you because of how you style your car.Grow up.
Your car do what you want.
Basically same as the last few posts to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by alex_maris
Oh and he thinks nobody likes him cos he rat his Nova.
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Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
LMFAO, you completey missed the fact he deliberately wrote your name wrong then, and its 'properly' not 'proper' :p
that makes more sence than how you said it before :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by draper
Kayll, STFU! some of drive hgv for a living, I for one drive a 18 ton gvw WITHOUT USING A TACHOGRAPH, 100% legaly, there are many exceptions to the law,
i couldnt give a rats a*rse if he rats a nova, there are all rotten anywaylol . if i were him i wouldnt rip stuart, or he could earn more bad rep than naplamlolQuote:
Originally Posted by Andy
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Originally Posted by alex_maris
Or a stab in the eye with the bansword lol
Oh sorry I forgot you have to spell perfect english all the time on this forum dont you and no i didn't miss the fact he spelt it wrong I just thought id use a bit of sarcasom back on him :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudly
i may need some of thislol ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudly
http://www.wrhl.net/uploads/popcorn_soda.jpg
kyall, tachographs are only for hire & reward, recovery is exempt. same as milk tankers run different hours because the milk is a perishable item, there are exemptions. as bazil says, road maintenance lorries are actually a form mobile plant, as are concrete pumps & those mix it on your driveway concrete wagons......
ps newbie... tachos are a recording device for drivers hours.
mowgli I aint seen Bazil post as there is that many replys in this topic while am writting mine I just can't keep up lol
But fair enough as far as I was told everyone must run a tacho if they are driving over a certain wieght so that the law can keep an eye on your hours hence why they brought in the digi tachos to stop drivers/companys been able to fraud the tachos
They are always changing the law when it comes to wagons that even the drivers themselves can't keep up with the changes
now someone pass me some popcorn am getting hungry :thumb:
they brought in digi tacho to keep better records, and that has kept fraud down, and there hasn't been a new law relating to driving hgv's in about 12 years... just driver cpc bullsh1t. same as this 'you must leave your cab to have a break' whoever told you that could not have been a driver.
lol exactly, that would defeat the object of trucks having beds in!
on topic, isnt this thread about a stolen carlol lol lol
well, they found it, so we were just killing time by discussing the peculiarities of the recovery business & how it is different to the general haulage business.
o i see!! shall we talk about waht we had for tea or the weather aswelllol , i had chicken!!:dQuote:
Originally Posted by mowgli
mixed grill :d
alex, you seem to have cornered the market in those topics already....
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158414
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158335
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157600
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157686
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157369
steak & kidney pudding.
Shepherds Pie
Rain and Wind
2 Sh1ts and 6pisses
The 45mins break is a new law ( well 2yrs old now I think maybe a little longer as it use to be totally different to how it is now ) not totally sure on the in and outs of it just know they must of had a 45min break with in so many hours of driving then if they have been driving for so many more hours after that break they have to have another one but they are also able to have a 15min break then a 30min break as long as it's all done with in a certain amount of time of driving - Also the leaving the cab actually did come from a driver - Ok they dont have to totally leave the cab but they can't be sat in the drivers seat they have to sit in the passanger seat , be in on there bed or leave the cab thats what he told me and lots of other drivers at are place have said this to - Also if we are court doing a delivery with the drivers Tacho on break then he is breaking the law as he aint having a real break because it's still classed as workingQuote:
Originally Posted by mowgli
Either way theses bloody laws they keep bringing in and changing are bloody stupid imo
/\ i got my licence in 1996 & the rules were the same then... as for the drivers seat thing....bull poo. have a look at a ups van... one seat. as long as the engine is turned off & the driver is not working & the tacho is set on rest, then he can do what he likes where he likes. and to be honest, if it is cold & he is in a day cab wagon, he can legally keep the engine running to keep him warm
We dont use UPS vans we use 7.5 ton wagons upwards which are all 2/3 seaters sometimes hiring in vans over xmas when orders for beer gets higher - So yet again do UPS have different rules from everyone else and is this to stop there drivers becoming fat *******s sitting in cafes while on there brekas ? lol
Also think you will find the law has changed lots since 1996 mate maybe you need to go check it out as from memory of what the drivers have said they use to be able to have 30min break first then the 15min break to make it upto the 45mins break but now it's the other way round and they can only have 15mins first then the 30mins break to make it upto 45mins break
We have agency drivers coming in loads who still think they can do it the old way until we have to tell them it's the other way with there breaks
you have to have the big break at 4.5 hrs, i am a transport manager. the major rules changes came about from the european driving hours directives...
and our wagons have digi tachos, & at 4.5 hrs, you have to stop for the required period, or the tacho tells you about it.
i had to go thru it earlier in the year with a (now ex) employee who had been driving to the old uk driving rules for 25 years cos he first got a driving job on milk tankers & hadn't bothered to find out....
it is a personal gripe of mine that the first driver cpc training day isn't actually about tacho hours, and isn't covered in the driving test
I've been driving hgv for 11 years, I don't know how to fill in an old style chart and I don't have a digi card lol
anyone fancy a debate on operators liecence? My truck don't have one but I'm still legal lol
some highways maintenance vehicles are a form of heavy plant....
gritters & road sweepers are not exactly delivering goods to a specific address.
discussion over.
Bingo, but mr policeman told me " now listen son it's a truck therefore it must have it! Also for not having a tachograph chart in use i'm charging you with that too "
I simply replied " no problem, I don't accept your ticket and I'll see you in court "
4 years ago that was,
Iirc travelling fairgrounds are also exempt from O licence.
showmens rules are crazier than all other road laws... remember the haulier with the double trailer wagon that got arrested.??? his wagon was still shorter than a showmans train can be.........they have 5th wheels hidden in strange compartments, towbars, trailers & caravans, odd wheelbases..etc they are usually well maintained, but just odd.
Local sillage contractor got a bollocking for towing 2 trailers. They were empty!!
I also have been asked to produce my class 1 ( C+E ) for towing a trailer with a tractor!
Usually it's the normo police that make a balls up of traffic law but up here there are stories of the traffic cops being disbanded! Honestly scares the crap out of me thinking of normo cops doing traffic duty.
and this is the whole reason you pay insurance! to cover stuff like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
The police take msot of the money when you pay the recovery firm, my dad owned one for 20+ years and barely ever made any money, and its allways the recovery people who get the ****ty end of the stick, becaus eno-one ever argues with the police anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
If its been inpounded, pay the F***ING fees and stop being a baby, if you knew what the recovery people went through, youd be gratefull
We aint talking about cars that have been inpounded for breaking the law we are on about cars that have been removed after a car crash bit of a difference there because they dont send crashed cars to the Police compound they only send inpounded cars to Police owned compounds or ones that are on the goverments books because the local police station aint got there own compound or truck to tow the car away
As I have also had my car inpounded before now and didn't mind paying the 140 quid it cost me to get it back because it was my own fault for parking in a non parking spot in Manchester lol and that was put in Manchester Police own compound that they have for inpounded cars
I argue with the Police all the time even my cousin who is a copper ! As half the time they dont even know the law and just make it up to suit them until you actually stand upto them and question them about what they think you have done wrong ! Like when one tryed to do me for having black number plates on my beetle I argued the toss with him telling him the car was old enough to have them he said I was making that law up until his mate came over and corrected him on his mistake lol
Flying Flea is a Coppers worse nightmare as he carrys all the rule books around with him and has even been know to pull them out and ask what section it is they are trying to do him for
Thats wrong, i worked in my dads police compound untill last eyar, we had no insurance cars, stolen cars, crashed cars, illegally parked cars, everything to do with vehicles the police were involved in, we got themQuote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
every car crash the police are called to, they offer to get the "police rota garage" to rmeove the car, which is their compound :d
towing a not connected, but braked farm trailer is illegal... considering round here, the biggest contractor takes a low loader behind a tractor with an LDV minibus on it, which is a massive offence with customs & excise using something with red diesel to tow something with white in it..........but they've not been done for it..Quote:
Originally Posted by bazil
we did get a tractor pulled into the local ministry checkpoint, with special vehicle road tax, white diesel, a driver with a class1 licence and a load that was under the 'unofficial weight limit' for tractors. and still the vosa prat tried to do us.... then he wanted an mot doing, then he rang my brother up, who gave him 20 minutes on transport law & tractors.
silly_Kylie, you are making MattBrown look good lol
I dont 'hate' you for the ratting lark, You are doing a perfectly good job of making yourself look like a mong without the project lol
Oh so your dads compound was a Police compound no wonder the money went to the police :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by xXx_Nova_xXx
Well round here we have to big recovery companys one in Chester and one in Warrington and both of them do all the recoverys for the Police when it comes to a smashed up car depending on the postcode of the area you crash in - I had my smash in a WA postcode so my car was taken to the one in Warrington even though Chester is closer just like they tryed to take me to Warrington hospital till I told them no chance I aint going there so they took me to Chester hospital instead - They dont touch anything else at the Chester one and the one in Warrington only had smashed up cars in it as well and when I visited the Police compound in Manchester to collect my car after it been illegally parked they also didn't deal with any cars that have been in a smash they just looked after all the illegal cars
So maybe it depends on what the area you live on how they deal with things ? - Just like it depends on where you live on what laws there rent a cops can dish out - Yes it's true some community officers have different rules to others because it's upto the Police station to decide what they can and can't do ( am sure someones now going to start a debate with me on this one now as well lol )
Stuart you do an good job at keeping the forum running like a playground :thumb: