Yeah they are harsh
Printable View
Yeah they are harsh
Well I obtained the f28 box from browney (cheers mate) and on the way home did a slight detour to collect a wing for danny sp so will get pics up and get this grafted on shortly :thumb:
Just read about the box, was going to say just lob on another F20 and grab another for when it blows again! lol
I killed mine in my old silk violet when going from 4th to 5th, but i was doing about 142mph @ 7300rpm.. so maybe i should of changed to 5th sooner! lol lol
What your thinking behind the F28 then, is the FD closer to 4.0 then the F20?
As surly the F20 would be better ratios no??
Scott
The ratios are pretty much the same (see below) and im putting it on because im looking to max the engines power over the winter (hoping 275bhp plus) and the rumour is the F28's are stronger than the f20's.Quote:
Originally Posted by scott.parker
Gearbox 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th rev FDR
================================================== ======
F20(3.55) 3.55 2.16 1.48 1.13 0.89 3.33 3.55
F20(3.72) 3.55 2.16 1.48 1.13 0.89 3.33 3.72
F28 3.57 2.16 1.45 1.1 0.89 0.74 3.32 3.72
can any one see the problem with the box i can't lol
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0643.jpg
look like reverse wonted out in this pic
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0644.jpg
well done gareth you did god job of that one lol
f20's aren't worth a light!
Well I guess if your going to smash a box may aswell do it right lol :thumb:
F28 is a bad idea imo - its the revs that kill the F20 - so I would imagine that the F28 wont be too happy either (although they are stronger I guess) Its the torque that kills F20s on LETs etc....
However your biggest prob is weight - they are about 30% heavier than an F20 - I wouldve saved up for an SCCR if I were you....
TBH will the price I got the f28 for was peanuts so its worth a shot. And in imy calculations with weight saving of the engine and engine bay the added weight from the f28 would probably equal it to a standard c20xe engine anyway. Failing that its going on another diet so im looking to loose about 20-30kg's off the car anyway. As for the torque im only running around 200ft lbs so im sure an f28 can cope. :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Will F
Revs doesn't kill boxes, torque does.
F20 relates to the 200ft/LB of torque it can handle & F28 is 280ft/LB respectively.
I was told it was something like that.at least even if i push the engine past 270bhp the f28 can handle it. :thumb:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0549.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0550.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0552.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0551.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0553.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0554.jpg
bout time you put those pics up lol :thumb:
looks good matey bet its fun to drive!!
It always a good laugh esp when you see some peoples face when you crusie past them. It s a good alrounder really wonder what it will be like when I try and get it to 275bhp+:confused: :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_wudgey
A mate who revved his XE passed 8600 regularly, ate around 3 boxes in a month when he first fitted his - he had to get a SCCR cluster in the end - it couldnt have been down to torque either - was 170 ish...
I know the main killer is torque, but prolonged spells above 8k isnt conducive to a long and healthy life either!
I think ill give the f28 a go first if it pos thats then I will have to get a sccr box but its not cash i wanna be spending atm :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Will F
You also should add an air filter - I cant see if there is a back plate on there, it doesnt look like it?
Take it from a bloke whose 1600 Tb'd lump ate a screw at 7500 rpm.
Also - remove that rear brace and fit properly! ;)
Gareth if you need a filter give me a shout
Whats wrong with the rear brace, :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Will F
What filter you got like dave.Quote:
Originally Posted by david dixon
its rubber mounted!! how can you expect something to strengthen the shell when its mounted on something that flexs lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gareth_C
i have a carbs/tb filterQuote:
Originally Posted by Gareth_C
;) edit
You cant mount it to the strut tops on the rear - this has no bearing on the stiffness of the shell..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth_C
Remove it, trim it down and weld it between the rear strut mounts - not the struts themselves.
will f what is your problem this lad's air con guy not a mechanic and he built this in his back garden can you not give a little bit respect for that. in ideal world gareth wood have every think perfect. but were in the real word and i think he do well to say this came out his shed.
Going by the smiley i dont think he meant anything bad by it, just giving advice. Hes got the strut brace mounted on 2 rubber mounts that are designed to flex. Best way would be a bar welded between the metal of the turrets (like in mikes 'how to' in the articles)Quote:
Originally Posted by Will F
thats just how it was designed mate but when i turret the rear over the winter im going to weld it in along with the roll cage so it matches :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
Well its been a while since I did anything on this due to concentrating on wwmnw's car. BUt I finally got into fitting bits i hd to use just generally messing about lol.
Pics:
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/SDC10662.jpg
Rollcage before we started.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/SDC10668.jpg
After it was painted. We then test fitted it in the car but I cant find the pic :confused:
Next.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/SDC10685.jpg
Started trial fitting the fibreglass tail gate.
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/SDC10692.jpg
Mounted on the car correctly. ready to take back off and paint.
Hopefully over the next week get the tailgate coloured in a finished. :thumb:
A little update the roll cage is now 85% welded in just needs tidying up and finishing then ite will be onto the removal of the dash, wheel well and a few extra items. On the plus point been told my wings have have been widened by 25mm are ready to pic up so will have them fitted asap
I also know its a bit late but here is a few pics of the engine when it was going together.
ttv flywheel:
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...5042008022.jpg
big valve head now on standard for the time being
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...6122007008.jpg
steel rods
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...5102008071.jpg
throttle bodies
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC00536-2.jpg
engine
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00534.jpg
and the 205/50/14 streel legal strip tyres i bought for it, they werent cheap
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...2072008051.jpg
Very nice nova mate like it a lot.
iain
cheers IainQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV4_SPORT
wow you have updated it :eek::eek:
lol yeah there only a couple 0f about 86 pics to put up
show all or it a lie png rule lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gareth_C
Wouldn't it have been easier to cut the floor out before fitting the cage? I can see you banging your head a few times and getting stressed out lol I'm off tomorrow thursday and friday if you need a hand :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth_C
good points am keep well away lolQuote:
Originally Posted by wwmnw
6 and two 3's mate because im only taking the wheel well out its doest affect where and cage sits and I havent got the plate to replace it so need that first.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwmnw
looking good, what spec is the engine going? and whats been done to the head? just ive had some problems with a certain companies steel caps failing thats all. alos if need any pistons, cams, etc drop me a pm.