YES! do it with 924 stuff. can be bought so cheap around £200 if you bargain hunt. great cars to work with. Can even get a 924 turbo and have 175bhp straight away. Do it, do it now
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YES! do it with 924 stuff. can be bought so cheap around £200 if you bargain hunt. great cars to work with. Can even get a 924 turbo and have 175bhp straight away. Do it, do it now
I want to look into it but I cant find any pics of the setup to get an idea of it (never seen it before myself!).
What pics do you want? My friends race them so we've got like 10 lol. Ive often pondered about using porsche parts on my saloon to make it rear wheel drive. One idea was just to cut the main body off the nova and weld it onto porsche floorpan
924 is old tech, get a 928 v8 and use that. btw fathobbit on here has a full 200sx drivetrain for sale simps. omega boxes fit, and are quite strong. id get a r28 and use a cally turbo clutch centre plate. (what im using with my saab motor in my mk1 cav) not hard to find tbh.
Mating that to a vaux lump would be a bitch!
could just go porsche powered! How cool would a saloon look on a set of porsche cups! Anyone care to photshop?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_0401.jpg
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Originally Posted by Sloth
200sx stuff is easy enough to come by. I like the porsche idea, but there's a certain charm about keeping it vaux. I'd like to retain the XE on R1s either way.
Do you think anyone does XE to Porsche box conversion plates? lol
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Originally Posted by andrew1988
do they have an lsd as standard?
no, no limited slip diff. Wicked handling. Would make perfect track car.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Simps
id say no to the convertor plate, but there again, you can get a let to toyota supra plate afaik. i know of an xe and manta 1800 box for 400 up here simps...
I think I prefer the cav turbo rims! lol
Sloth cheers mate but this is next winter's project! Want to get it running this year first!
Also, theres only 60mm difference in wheelbase and track between the 924 and nova. Hmmm, makes me want to do this!!!
Dont like those wheels either, look like replicas
lol lol lolQuote:
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Originally Posted by andrew1988
Can you get a better pick of the bell housing Andrew? So a little easier to see whats involved getting it to fit an xe.
Would be quite cool and different if it could be achieved.
Shut it Count! lol
yeah but im selling everything you would need, and i want it shifted so its goin cheap. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by The Simps
Yup sure, weve got a turbo full drivetrain and n/a full drivetrain out on the floor for comparison oddly. Will get pics tommorrow. If it could be done it would be an epic saloon, handling would be spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by The Simps
is there any reason why you couldn't chop off the end of the bell housing and weld on a new end bit to meet the XE?
No reason, provided all of the measurements were spot on.
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Originally Posted by Welsh Dan
A good friend works in a machine shop. Shouldn't be too hard to copy the template of a vaux box, cut it out in thick plate, trim out the centre to match the porsche box then weld in place. Just a case of getting the shaft lined up right.
Hmmmmm.....
Only in essex too so you're welcome to come over and have a look at the porsches and drivetrains. Will get pics of it all tommorrow. Would be amazing to have a nova with a near 50/50 weight distribution. I really want to do it now lol
its so easy to do in principle its just making sure its all straight and true!
Porsche rims look the tits mate! Would mean changing the hubs or adptor plate?
how crazy is that.
i race nova's on the oval tracks and having got a bit keen "the weather had come out and it felt good" i phoned up a mate who has a 2lt red top corsa on the road, out for a spin and was impressed so i got even keener and used a donar nova 3 door shell, had some work done to it and thought about setting up a project to drop a red top in, then we come up with the idea of RWD - not many road going RWD nova's about? i've only ever seen rally one's track days and not very many of them.
so we got a bit keener and started to play.
in the oval world we run a formula called national hot rods. which are basically space framed cars with a 2lt red top - built, running a qualife box and a english rear end
but then it's the cost.. is it worth it - why not just go buy some jap rwd fun?
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Originally Posted by paulwar
That is always the question, but I think its also about doing something you enjoy and building something a little different!
Anyone ever thought of MR2s, would be a mid engined rear wheel drive Nova.
IIRC the track width is about 20 mm out or something.
I thought of just welding the whole rear end setup of the MR2 into the Nova rear for simple easier to build, quicker and interchangability with engines, to some extent. MR2 turbo engine would be a blast!
plenty of rear mounted nova been done but not that many front mounted.
yer thats what i thought mate
had a think last night, surley it would be easier to cut the floor plan completely out, and sheet it say 3mm sheet, welded back in, all new mounts made up for seats, cage, etc. etc. then you could make a tunnel to what ever you wanted to, then on the rear u would have more room to **** about with mounts etc and get it mounted in the right place and be happy.
either way i think your need to cut a axle down to fit and make up all new mount points, suspension points etc. etc.
Not much help Simps, but there is a RWD VW fox (polo saloon) in this months Perf VW mag. Longitudinal mounted 16v. Might be worth a read.
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It goes without saying that there is a lot of fab work involved.
I don't think there is any need to cut the whole floor out in the front, you just need to shape the tunnel as desired (one advantage of Porsche running gear is that its not very big!) and my rear floor is cut out anyway so can make it to shape.
After having one of my rear tubs done I'm reluctant to want to cut into it now - its a thing of beauty!! lol
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It would be easy enough to add another half of tubing to allow room for the driveshafts (as marked above) but how you would arrange the top wishbone is another question.
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Cheers Craig! I'll pop down my local library and have a gander.
Escort live axle would be one way to do it or I'd be inclined to make a diff cradle up and go IRS, you then have the choice of hundreds of diffs, use whatever hubs you like and simply get the shafts made with the length and splines you require for the joints, its really no different to having to get a axle narrowed and shafts made to suit without the expense of the buying rally parts.
My thick tubed atlas wasn't cheap and if your considering putting anymore than 175hp in at some point you may as well spec it right at first than have to get stuff remade twice to take the power, the IRS setup doesn't suit a Mk2 I'm told so I just stuck with the tried and tested live axle but at 2k you possibly will probably want to go down a route that you can atleast do yourself (except for shortned shafts)
Look on passionford for how Richies KA has been done if your looking for inspiration
I saw that KA thread, the v6 one?
I think I'm definately moved towards the idea going IRS, I'm just trying to work out how it will work around the curret tubs.
In chatting to client today about my plans for it and the consideration of 924 porsche stuff he said he knows someone who has one sat in their garden that the were going to have scrapped. He's gonna look into it for me!
I'm still very much weighing up in my head whether to carry on and get the car running in fwd first or to stop and make a start on rwd now. Its going to be VERY tight whether it will make the tracks this year depending on cash flow whereas rwd can wait til next year.
KA is Yb Cossy powered, red with arches, still being built at Adrenaline at the moment but worth looking at as it will show you how to sort the diff cradle out ;)
Failing that just look at how the wrc cradle was made for the Escort or Focus or even simpler just remove the whole rear subframe from something rwd and use that and make your own suspension pickups. S14 stuff is tough as old boots but not light.
If your going to make it rwd I'd concentrate more on doing that this year than I would finishing what you have done then doing it all again mate :)
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Originally Posted by Jonlem
It does make a lot more sense, especially if I do pic up this 924 for free. I've spoken with a mate tonight and he's got 2 track prepped cars at tho mo and said I can share with him so at least I won't lose another year again!
I like the idea of doing a 924 conversion and the gearbox over the rear axle, will mean smaller tunnel too.
Regarding IRS, this is an old BMW 320 setup below, is it normal to only have the one control arm and not double wishbone? Cally stuff is the same isn't it? With that kinda setup it wouldn't be too hard to use my existing tubs.
http://www.lexam.net/peter/carnut/32...on-drawing.jpg
p.s. will have a look for that KA later ;)
Porsche 924:
Wheelbase:- 2400mm (94.5 in)
Track Front - 1372mm (54.0 in)
Track Rear - 1370mm (53.9 in)
Nova:
Wheelbase - 2343mm (92.2 in)
Track Front - 1320mm (52.0 in)
Track Rear - 1307mm (51.6 in)
Is track measured from hub face to hub face?
track is measured from tyre centre to tyre centre