985cc Turbocharged Nova Sprint Car

Crikey this is all getting a bit serious !

I do know someone who had a set of centrelock adaptors made for his Cosworth, I believe there were 5 sets made in total but as you can imagine they were not cheap at all. Personally I can't see any weight saving gains being made there even if the wheels you end up using are magnesium.

I would be looking into lower arms, hub carriers and parts liek that to save weight but like the centrelocks I can't see the weight saving being worth the cost of having something like that made.

What TCA's does the car run ?

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Originally Posted by Jonlem

Crikey this is all getting a bit serious !

I do know someone who had a set of centrelock adaptors made for his Cosworth, I believe there were 5 sets made in total but as you can imagine they were not cheap at all. Personally I can't see any weight saving gains being made there even if the wheels you end up using are magnesium.

I would be looking into lower arms, hub carriers and parts liek that to save weight but like the centrelocks I can't see the weight saving being worth the cost of having something like that made.

What TCA's does the car run ?

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I did get offered some centrelock adaptors for my Escort Cosworth, but I declined them as they were heavy, and sourcing suitable wheels was a bit of a minefield as there are so many different peg drives on centrelockers.

I only considered it for this Nova as I am having some wheels made for it anyway. I will know more by the end of today.........and will update later on.

The TCA's are standard style, but modified to a rose joint on the inner chassis fixing.

I can't see there being much weight to be saved with titanium TCA's, but I think that titanium tie bars and anti-roll bars could certainly be worthwhile.

The company I am talking to are specialists in titanium machining for Mini race cars, but are happy to do one-offs for anything.

I notice on their website they also do titanium drive flanges for the hubs. Interesting.

As always, it's all down to how much you want to spend.....

Probably the same adaptors if it was a while back but I agree they are seriously heavy so would be no use for what you want, well that type anyway.

It is as you say down to costs, when a car reaches the level yours has your left with 2 options, leave it alone or go mad. Your obviously very keen on this motor so why not do a few bits and see how it works, I think my concern would be the huge costs you mention for some of the parts gaining you very little if anything on a sprint

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Also if you want some titanium bar to take to the engineering firm to cut the cost, i may be able to get you some ;)

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Ste.

I went to see the engineering firm yesterday, and have left them with a Nova rear beam to work from as a template.

He's going to get back to me with the tube sizes he is going to need, so I will let you know and hopfully you will be able to assist with obtaining the raw materials.

Apparently he makes most of his stuff out of Grade 2 titanium. To be honest he was confusing me with all the specs/Grades and different elements which get added in to the mix to make titanium alloys!

He sounds like he knows what he's on about. Iv asked the metalogist to get me the densitys of titanium v mild steel.

When you find out what exactly will be needed drop me an email. I doubt we will have much titanium tube, we mainly have bar and billets.

The firm definatley sound like they know what they are doing, and i think i may have seen some of their products in the past, they produce some very nice items.

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He sounds like he knows what he's on about. Iv asked the metalogist to get me the densitys of titanium v mild steel.

When you find out what exactly will be needed drop me an email. I doubt we will have much titanium tube, we mainly have bar and billets.

The firm definatley sound like they know what they are doing, and i think i may have seen some of their products in the past, they produce some very nice items.

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You'll need to get the mechanical properties of the Ti alloy being used, pure Ti is actually not as strong per unit mass as steel, so you'd see a weight increase!

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Originally Posted by t45_ste

He sounds like he knows what he's on about. Iv asked the metalogist to get me the densitys of titanium v mild steel.

When you find out what exactly will be needed drop me an email. I doubt we will have much titanium tube, we mainly have bar and billets.

The firm definatley sound like they know what they are doing, and i think i may have seen some of their products in the past, they produce some very nice items.

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They've been making Mini stuff for a few years now, have a look at their website;

http://www.force-racing.co.uk/home/

that website should be in 18+, pure porn

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He sounds like he knows what he's on about. Iv asked the metalogist to get me the densitys of titanium v mild steel.

When you find out what exactly will be needed drop me an email. I doubt we will have much titanium tube, we mainly have bar and billets.

The firm definatley sound like they know what they are doing, and i think i may have seen some of their products in the past, they produce some very nice items.

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Ste.

You have e-mail!

Thanks.

Colin

Having seen video footage of the man behind amuse lift one of their titanium S2000 systems with one finger I'ud say well less than 50% of the weight of steel.

The system on Pepe is entirely titanium, but it was only ever built & fitted on / around the car so can't confirm it overall…