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I'm sure Ive seen that in the movies! lol
Have you been drinking again?Quote:
Originally Posted by dhdev (Oli)
Drinking? Smoking somthing more like lol
Whats next on your list?
I think he believes there is danger to the manifold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot
Why would there be danger to the manifold? I'm completely lost...perhaps i need to smoke some thing as well :tard:Quote:
Originally Posted by MK999
Ah yes back to the build....I have to fit the rear arches (more weight saving lol), finalise everything in the engine bay and paint it then prep the car and paint it. Plus i've been working on a few other bits like my wide track.Quote:
Originally Posted by AW06
After the bay/car is in colour its a case of putting it back together and finding some £££ to buy the last few bits i need.....
Anyone want to buy my saloon?
lol lol lol very good Oli i get it now.....
I was also struggling with that one but very good
Ahhhh Herro Everybody riddle update time!
As i haven't updated for a while (for me any way) i thought i'd get back on it as i haven't just been sitting around with my thumb up may @rse i have been mincing - deatils are below......
So I decided i needed to get on with fitting the wide rear arches to accomodate my 50mm extra width!
I started by offering up the arch to the car - some one at some point has fitted these, i'm not sure if they came as they are of if they have been 'modified' but the fit is truly w@nk!
Arch offered up
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1013.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1014.jpg
A rough marking of how far up i can cut (although i ended up going further once i knew exactly what was behind were i was cutting)
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1015.jpg
Out came the grinder and i savaged it off.
I then fitted the rear axle, the spacer (soon to be replaced by an actual weld in spacer) and the wheel. After some more head scratching and drawing over the car i concluded i could cut higher so i did.
This is how much extra width i now have on each side!!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1016.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1021.jpg
As you can see below i cut the outer skin higher than the inner so i could fold the inner skin up to the outer
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1022.jpg
And weld them both together again - this arch mod means the wheel can now move up higher were as before it just fouled the arch very severely. All this will be covered by the new F/G arch.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1024.jpg
I made sure to sealed up the seam inside the car to stop any unwanted moisture getting in the crevis
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint005.jpg
Oh and the remains
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1028.jpg
The filler cap will have to be relocated but i think i have quite a cool idea for that anyway.
Once i had reached this stage i was comfortably certain that the new F/G arch wouldn't fit as i wanted without some more 'modifications' so i decided to spin the car round to get to the other side and the engine bay as so
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint001.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint002.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint003.jpg
Much better!
Once i had good access to the front of the car i decided i should treat the front inner arches to some more stone chip for good measure as they were a bit patchy
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint004.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint007.jpg
I then removed the centre of the front panel
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint009.jpg
At the same time i seam sealed up the plates i had welded to the lower crossmember
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint006.jpg
At this stage i could now remove the rollover frame from the front of the car so i could begine the prep work. I masked off all the areas i wanted the paint to avoid and gave the bay a couple of coats of grey primer as i wasn't fond of the green primer.
Masked off
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint008.jpg
Prepped ready to go
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint012.jpg
And primed
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint013.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...aypaint014.jpg
Having then left the primer to dry from sunday (as i was endulging in some mountain bike related activities in chicksands woods last night http://www.chicksandsbikepark.co.uk/index.php just some free ride and arsing about mind) i gave the bay 3 coats of green tonight
The first application
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay020-1.jpg
And the finished article
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay021-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay022-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay025-1.jpg
Its come out much better than the inside of the car did and i'm really happy with the result/finish
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay027-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay026-1.jpg
Love the colour!
Coming away from the car its self for a minute i thought i would share some info on the new front wheel bearings i'm going to fit (this is also detailed in Dar's WIP were i stole it from).
I have decided to upgrade the front wheel bearings to a set up near to the group A spec nova bearings but at a fraction of the cost - basically this will allow me to run a near standard XE hub in the original carrier (the nova wheel bearing is too small to accept the XE hub so people either have the XE hub machined down to fit the bearing which can lead to weakness or opt for a conversion type hub that has also been known to fail) the bearing i'm using is from a Mazda 626 of all things it is 2mm wider O/D than the standard nova item but exactly the same I/D as the original XE hub - the hub carrier there for needs machining out by 4mm and i'm having the cir clip grooves put back in.
This means I will only be loosing 2mm off the wall of the hub carrier (1mm per side) and i will be able to run a big block hub (The big block hub does need some macining on the back face to allow it to be pressed all the way into the nova carrier but i will detail this once the hub carriers are back from the machine shop here is a pic also courtesy of DAR).
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...12_640x480.jpg
The bearings i used.
Bearings: FBK106 - Can't remember the dimensions though.
Cir-clips: INT0670 - INT DIN 472 Metric 67mm (2.5/8)
And a few illustrative pics - the green one is the original nova bearing
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay028-1.jpg
Nova I/D
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay032-1.jpg
Mazda I/D
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay030-1.jpg
Nova O/D
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay039-1.jpg
Mazda O/D
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay037-1.jpg
And the width of them is identical 37mm
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay040-1.jpg
I hope thats usefull :D
I have also sent my rear brake brums/backing plates off to be sand blasted along with the axle i painted blue as it doesn't go with the car now i've gone all green.
Once thats back i can get on with the axle widening.
On another note then next couple of updates should be quite interesting if what i'm working on turns out as i want it to so watch this space :thumb:
Looking good count, loving that colour, and very interesting hub mods there, what page is the detailed info on dars thread as this may be an idea for mine
Fab work looks awesome, is that paint matt finish? be hellish to keep clean if it is!
Those wheel bearings are the same size as the ones I used Im sure, but mine were from the rear of a '88 golf synchro 4wd lol
Thanks Gunny! Regarding the hub mods in Dars thread its pages 15-20 ish with the main content on p.19 but i think i have included all you need here.
Anytime mate :thumb:. Ok cheers, will definitely be looking into this.
Matt? yesQuote:
Originally Posted by alistairolsen
Clean? lol
good work ****. didn't realise you were going wide rear too! :cool:
still not convinced on the green! lol
Yes I'm not 100% Sold on it yet, but we can only wait and see! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Simps
good progress mate.
Scott
Thanks Shrimps.....i decided to go wide rear for the sheer pleasure of it lolQuote:
Originally Posted by The Simps
The colour is the subject of mass debate :roll: but the paint was free, its easy to apply and durable/over paintable with little effort so as its a track car the pluses out weigh the fact it isn't shiny and either white, red or silver like the rest are :thumb:
no it isnt it rocks end of :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot
you must be tempted to go with a different offset and get some massive chunky wheels in there! lol
They are 7 inch 45et as it is and the wide arches arn't wide enough so it should be good enough lol
cool, good lad!
i've got a fetish for big rims and stretched rubber at the mo! lol
To be fair i could put whatever i wanted on it as i will be adjusting the F/G arches but i think its wide enough for now lol
I too love big rims and uber stretch but those porsche rims on your saloon look homo.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot
It wasn't the best 'shop in the world to be fair but yeah, didn't look how I thought. I think trying to keep the turbo rims will be cool.
oh, will your rear track be slightly wider than your fronts?
Dude. Didnt know you where doing it wide too.
The fb arch does look a lil off shape...
I love the pic with the wheel sticking right out of the arch from the back..
Bay looks cool as funk.
Yep nice and wide thought i might as well lol - the F/G rear arches are a strange shape and i'm unsure exactly how i'm going to tackle it at the moment although i have a few ideas....i can't see how they ever fitted in the first place lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Benn
No mate +100 mm front and rear!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Simps
Bang them on, go low and drive it hard..lol
Have they been trimmed and shaped?
Yes i think they have been 'trimmed' and 'shaped' but not very well lol i will be banging them on over the weekend so we will see how they turn out - once they are on its paint the outside of the car time!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Benn
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...homerCRAZY.gif
Updates please!!
Cool cool, and yeah maybe trimmed by a blink guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot
With your metal work skills a bit of fiber glassing wont be hard...
Updates should be on their way tonight - i've had an uber busy family weekend so should get some time later....Benn F/G is not a problem as you will find out later - and its not the arches.....lol
Cool cool, man of manny tallents then, and its not the arches? the metal ones or the fb?
Right update time....As mentioned before i'm going wide track front and rear - there are several options available to fill those wide arches some better than others imo. The options are wide low offset wheels (there is the possibility that the width would cause them to track across the road badly and the low ET to make them feel 'uncomfortable' to drive on), A wide track kit from the likes of HH or pilebeam (sp?) or TAS if they still existed (which they don't) but they are all major £££, the classic hubsentric spacers or my favoured option make my own!
So here is the latest attempt at money saving/problem solving from the Count Developments camp it all started when i was perusing the possible options and JohnH said he had an old TAS catalogue laying around so he posted me it (cheers mate! :thumb:) - i had a look at what they used to offer (see below) and what other companies still offer (at a price but after making mine i realise why!)
So here is the pic from TAS its very small an not overly helpful but does give a rough idea (i will add i couldn't find anyone running any wide track kits that have decent photo's) so i basically started from scratch!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngbay042-2.jpg
I started off with the standard arm took loads of measurements and worked out the angles then used them to widen the arm by 50mm and knocked up a jig (i don't have pics of this as my dog sh?t phone will not connect to my laptop no matter what i do so apologies).
After i was happy with the angles etc i welded the arm up to give this (i will get some better pics of the finished results once they are all er finished)
Uniballs on the outside
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1007.jpg
RJ on the inside for adjustable camber
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1005.jpg
Then to bring out the hub carrier so i didn't have loads of neg camber i sorted these +50mm spacers out (the other option would have been to alter the strut top by moving it out from the centre of the car) these will be used in conjunction with eccentric strut tops.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1003.jpg
As you can see the carriers face is sitting quite level and its not all bolted up properly
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1033.jpg
Once i had achieved the shape of arm required and it fitted ok to the car with the hub carrier spacer i set about making up the tie bar as i already make the drop mount for the lower front panel these are similar to the TAS design but better imo as they are not fixed at the lower arm end.
I went for LH rose joint at the front to the drop mount
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1040.jpg
Then roughly lined it up (yes the lower arm is the other way up in this pic as i wasn't sure which way round was the best at this point)
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1042.jpg
Then i cut the tiebar in half and put a RH insert in the opposite end to the LH RJ so it will take a RH threaded bar (in 12.8 so strong as funk) like so
LH thread at one end and RH thread at the other
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1051.jpg
This is then bolted to the lower arm, I gave it some more strengthening just because
Holes to puddle weld the bar in
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1043.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1044.jpg
Then slotted the other end of the bar to add a piece of plate in the middle as so to add to the strength of the bolted end
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1046.jpg
Welded it in
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1052.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1054.jpg
So i ended up with this
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1055.jpg
I then added an 'anti crush' bit of 12mm id tubing for the bolt
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1064.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1066.jpg
This therefore giving one complete tie bar that allows 'on car' adjust ability
Once the tie bar was complete i moved on to the mounting position on the lower arm TAS used this method (the one reasonable on car pic i could find)
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...Wide_track.jpg
It uses a 'foot' looking end like the original tie bar but if you tried to adjust the tie bars length then surly you would need to elongate the holes to accommodate the angle change at the lower arm end? So to over come this i made it a pivot using the bolt through idea above.
Here is the tie bar mounting point on the lower arm
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1058.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1059.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1060.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1061.jpg
And boxed it in
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1070.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1071.jpg
The finished result ending up like so
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1077.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1079.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1080.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1082.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1085.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1087.jpg
Needless to say i was more than happy with the result (as long as it actually works that is lol) so this is the development stage only and may need some final alterations (read as smashing with a bit hammer and binning and starting again if it all goes wrong)
As i didn't have all the resources the large companies that produce kits similar to these it did take ages to work it all out but then result nearly looks profesional imo and i can understand why they cost so much in the first place.
So while i was twiddling my thumbs i decided its nearly time to start rebuilding the interiour (not that there is much interiour actually going back in to the car :thumb:) i thought i would try a bit of F/G action with the dash (Benn what you think?)
So i knocked up this custome fiberglass dash - i'm not sure how it will turn out yet after its cut to size and tidied up but it may well find its self bin bound also if it looks w@nk.
What you all think?
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1088.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1090.jpg
Pod in the middle for the rev counter speedo etc guages and switches to the left fuses to the right or something like that
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1089.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1103.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1101.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...etrack1102.jpg
Apologies if any and or all of that made no sense as i'm very tired of three days of screaming kids at the inlaws :(