You know nothing.
I realise that in a side impact there's a chance the brake line may split and leak, but as far I can see it's the best route for it to take where it won't get in the way.
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You know nothing.
I realise that in a side impact there's a chance the brake line may split and leak, but as far I can see it's the best route for it to take where it won't get in the way.
To be fair if a side impact is hard enough to split the brake lines then i dont think you'd need the brakes from then on lolQuote:
Originally Posted by iainel
They dont get in the way if you run them down the trans tunnel thought. And you can very easily add a fly off handbrake if you want, of if you ever sell it an the new owner wants too.Quote:
Originally Posted by iainel
You see, your spending all this time doing things to your car, which with only a few more bolt on parts you could use for road rallying. So when you come to sell it (if ever) you coud potentially fetch a tidy sum for it if its done to a tidy standard :thumb:
Yes I wouldn't be concerned about the braking efficiency of my banana shaped Nova lol It's more the fluid leaking everywhere - I assume brake fluid is flammable?
Good call on the hydraulic handbrake, I was looking in to those actually. Exhaust tunnel it is! Will just have to route it down the passenger side of it and try and avoid everything on the way.
Correct. And corrosive, an can blind you. Tastes okish though.Quote:
Originally Posted by iainel
Do tell chap ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by draper
Any more updates Iain ?
Nope :( Finding it hard to make progress in this cold.
Boo hoo its cold so I can't work on my car.....
..... Neither can I - you painted it yet?
Nope.
man up and get it done
best to keep from getting ill this time of year..
Why? And just cause your out in the cold doesn't mean you'll get ill.Quote:
Originally Posted by peester
i was out working on my nova on sat morn, was minus 3 when i got to the car, was 0.5deg c when i left just after lunch. you just got to climatise yourself to it. im not ill from it either...
it doesnt snow germs lol
Ok so I've started on my brake lines, cut down the braided hose to size with a hacksaw and tape to stop it fraying:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/723.JPG
Here's all the correct lengths for making up the rear line/s:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/724.JPG
Placed the nut on, frayed out the braid, and pushed on the olive until it's sitting flush on the end of the plastic hose:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/725.JPG
Here's where the problem occurs. When I tighten on the second end the whole line wants to twist with the nut...
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/726.JPG
...So I end up with this, when I need them both pointing the same direction.
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/727.JPG
Is there any fix for this or do I need to redesign my brake lines to so none have a 90 deg at either end?
The solution I came up with as to how to get the 90 degrees pointing in a direction of my choice...
Tightened the nut over the fitting and marked where the back of the 90 deg is on the nut. Marked where this should be on the brake line:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/728.JPG
Placed the nut over and frayed the end/fitted the olive:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/729.JPG
Brought the nut down over the hose and ensured the red marks lined up and clamped it in a vice:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/730.JPG
Then tightened the 90 deg fitting in to the nut - the nut and brake line didn't twist and it left me with it pointing the right direction.
Finished making the rest of the brake lines for the rear bar the bias valve:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/731.JPG
Sorted the oil gallery bolt now too. We tried welding a bolt to it but this ended up shearing off, so the hole has now been welded up completely. Maybe I should have listened to the "leave it alone" advice but meh, live and learn!Quote:
Originally Posted by iainel
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/732.JPG
Cheers to Tom Reid off here for a hand with this.
At least its sorted.
How did he weld that??? Stick welder??
Just MIG...
Good work on the brake lines.
Sorted all my brake lines now, just need some banjos for the rear drums. Lots of pics as I appreciate feedback or concerns with how I've done it!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/733.JPG
Replaced the shaped metal (originally for the brake pedal?) with a flat piece so the t-piece sits further back and so makes more room in the bay. Will make a tidy one before refitting:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/734.JPG
Each side coming off the t-piece utilise the standard bracket and mate to Goodridge flexis:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/735.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/736.JPG
Runs down the centre inside:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/737.JPG
And under the gear shifter (will make a small hole for it to pass through when fitting the shifter):
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/738.JPG
Single flexi to the rear beam:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/739.JPG
And uses the original tabs on the beam:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/740.JPG
Just not sure where to mount my bias valve now though. Thinking either here:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/741.JPG
Or here:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/742.JPG
Suggestions?
Looking good. Id mount it by the handbrake
Yep, definately by the handbrake. Lines look good Iain..
Cheers, yeah they look nice, whether they work/leak is another matter though. lol
Another vote of by the handbrake from me as you will want it accessible from your seat rather than having to test your bias amount then get out and lean in the back from the boot and adjust it, more good looking work as always lionel keep it up:thumb:
As said before, thats a LOT of joins to leak :p lol
Fingers crossed they'll be sound though :)
As spudly said :thumb: Lines look good, something I quite fancy doing on the yellow one as I want to go with corsa set up too...
Ive just looked at all 91 pages lol
Top work mate,honestly !!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb:
91 pages :-o
quality rather than quantity an' all.
aye mate,was worth it though :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by peester
lol Cheers, yeah lots of pages and views! Trying to keep a detailed diary to look back on tho! Been off the road for about 10 months now, hopefully get it built before it's been off a year. :eek:
Another vote for by the hand brake mate, the lines look really good mate, but could you of had a them join straight to the connectors where they meet on the front good ridge, and at the rear beam, this would get rid of the 90 degree bends, and have far less joins to leak? or is there a reason for them? i just though you could put a connector strain to the line, no need for bends?? (hope you understand me?)
Scott
This pic shows the bends im on about, after the floor and just before the beam, are they really needed, has more joins that could leak etc..
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/739.JPG
Plus looking at that the wheels are on the ground there, you might want to add some more length in the line between the boot/bench floor and the beam as you might end up with it not having enough ply in it when jacking the car etc, just an idea?
Scott
You'd still need a fitting to join the brake line to the Goodridge pipe though? So there's no way of getting around one there? The 90 degree ends are one fitting but allow swivel so the line won't twist when tightening them up.
That rear flexi is getting remade anyway as I twisted the braid slightly - how long I remake it will depend on what the full droop length of the rear coilovers are as it's currently on standard suspension. Cheers for pointing it out though. :)
Ah i see, makes more sense now mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by iainel
Yeah i gathered you would be fitting coilovers meaning less drop etc, but if you need to take them off means you will have to keep the beam fully supported as well ;)
just thinking, not putting your efforts down at all, as you have done a cracking job mate.
Scott
By the handbrake. Then you can adjust while driving.
The rear line where it enters the car is right in the water channel tho, you might find it leeks in..
Yeah cheers Scott, appreciate your comments. I think the standard rubber flexis on the rear aren't long enough to let the beam drop fully with no shocks anyway - but I'll measure it up properly and tailor the line to the new rear shocks anyway.
Benn, a washer and some sealer should hopefully stop it from leaking - I'm more worried about the Corsa servo mount holding water and I've found it's quite a watertrap! See: http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthr...wpost&t=137032
so long as youve sealered it it will be fine.