That's bigger than what I was told. more like a Zippo iirc. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike
You has first hand experience though. :thumb:
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That's bigger than what I was told. more like a Zippo iirc. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike
You has first hand experience though. :thumb:
Depends which company you use. RAC Trackerstars are quite big apparently, genuine Tracker UK ones are tiny. Depends really I suppose :S
uk tracker ones are the size of a fag packet, my mate fits em, and uses oem wiring loom covers and tags to disguise it. the bmw kits that bmw offer have sat nav areial or som eother random sticker on the box lol
According to Mr Porter he broked a car that had a tracker installed in it and there were around eleven boxes concealed throughout the car and tapped into power feeds from everything, from the abs to the sunroof motors so if one box were found and removed, there were still many more transmitting away!
^Sounds like a Sigma system.
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Originally Posted by Mike
Pass mate, ive not got the foggiest when it comes to trackers in all fairness, only repeating what he said to me when we were talking about car thefts and such when he picked him bmw up from me last week lol
I may however have to read up on them as im definately getting a cav turbo next year, and i reckon one would be a wise investment for a car becomming so rare these days:thumb:
only just bought the car and is the fee to regiester and activate after a car is stolen before hand is a monthly payment, 1/4 ly or on off but if not set up before car is stolen they sting you.:thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Update:
Car has been found thanks to Facebook in a garage in bletchly near MK well sort of part of MK now. Is at the recovery yard now £300 to get it back
OK been to see her not pretty but not too bad. wheels missing, rear lights been vandelised, wipers missing, ignition barrel smashed out, radio gone, beetle parts still in the boot :-) woop, both rear arches scuffed in, both front wings pushed in a little with paint on, grill missing, rear of passenger sill damaged where dropped on floor, drivers door lock surround damaged, passenger handle lose. rear seat poss broken hinge. :-(
Thanks every one for keeping your eyes peeled
Just put the tracker on the engine as thats the only bit people will care about :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudly
complete scum bags as if youd do that to some ones pride and joy:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by ednovasr2
Guy who had the yard next to us had a bad habit of bringing home borrowed plant machinary, used to get the place raided quite often, one of the machines had a tracker fitted which faxed the local police station its gps co ordinates and a satelite photo of where it was, the plod showed us it. Was quite impressed.
The other stuff used to get lifted due to the usual traffic plod scanners.
our vehicles have trackers.... with built in comms to the drivers..... they don't cost anything like what some car trackers do though.
simplest tracker.... asda phone, wire a car charger to it & hide it under the dash, then register it on one of those spy on your child websites...
mind you, we have a tracker on a telescopic loader that by ringing certain number codes would make it turn off remotely... we had to hide the manual for that one as it was far too funny on building sites.....
Gutted for your mate and what a bunch of robbing *******s charging him £300 to get the car back ! Tell him to argue the toss with them and they might do it cheaper that's what I did to get my Nova back after the crash - They wanted £360 by the time I got out of hospital and could go get the car - I argued a toss with them telling them I would of got the car removed myself and wasn't asked if I wanted it removing along with a load more ranting at them for not letting me remove the parts that I had put on the car myself such as the rollcage - so they let me have it for £250 and gave me till the end of the week to get it with out adding the £20 a day on top of the bill that it was thereQuote:
Originally Posted by ednovasr2
Might even be worth seeing if he is coverd on the insurance to have them pay for him to get it back !? Hope he does and gets it back to the way it looked when he bought it :thumb:
he will have to pay the excess anyway so £300 might be the lesser of two evils
At the end of the day the recovery/storage people are there to make money,not friends.Thats cheap anyway is £300.
Some have to pay more to get a burnt out shell back.
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Originally Posted by Andy
recovery trucks arent cheap either. would you rather plod found the car miles away and just leftit at the side of the road to be re-stolen/torched ?
Which is why they offer for you to just pay 150 notes and let them keep the car and come collect your personal stuff ! Amazing how they dont class your radio as your personal stuff though aint it :mad: So you pay them the 150 quid to keep your car and they also get a 200 quid + sound systemQuote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Sorry but in my eyes they are in a win win situation which is WRONG !
Bit like when I had to collect my VW beetle just over a year after the crash after the Police was paying for it to be kept there while waiting for the court case ect to finish - I went to see the car the week of the crash I could get in the car sit in the drivers seat ect - Then a year+ later when I go back and collect it I couldn't even get in the car because they had put another one on top of it but not before they was so kind to take the doors off and put them inside it ! Sorry but they take the piss and it's day light robbery in my eyes
No wonder the guys who work for theses recovery companys have such nice cars and sound systems :roll:
they rat looked it for you... I guess they thought they were helping lol
i'm on the fence here, cos 'recovery people charge lots of money' but they usually have to fetch it out from under a hedge at 2 in the morning etc.
this equipment costs lots of money, the drivers need training & then work unsociable hours, the contracts to recover crashed/stolen etc vehicles are sewn up by large national companies & the little local ones get screwed right down on the callout fees, so the only way they can make money is to charge for storage.
if i had a car in storage & i found out it was damaged more than when it first got there, i'd be shouting for compensation.
you can demand it is brought to your premises, as long as you have premises off road to park a car on safely & securely.
Not very funny really when the car could of been fixed ! now the shell is totally ****ed along with the steering because from putting a car on top they pushed the steering wheel right down on to the drivers seat !
Hope it never happends to any of your cars because belive me you wouldn't find it very funny either
I did argue the toss with them but they just rolled the car and said it wasn't there problem !Quote:
Originally Posted by mowgli
How are you supose to tell them to bring it to your off road parking location when you are been rushed to hospital :roll:
Theses big companys get there money back they pay for there trucks ect with in a couple of months after that everything is profit profit profit - Why you think theses little companys start up and jump on the band wagon !
precisely the problem i had with the recovering of my missus's car one new years eve..... i came to in the back of an ambulance, and the cops apparently took my consent to remove a vehicle that was not mine to give consent for....... cough [backhander off the recovery people] cough..... when i put it to the copper in the court 6 months later, he admitted he'd assumed it was mine & assumed it was ok, so i then ran a coach & horses straight thru his evidence & made him admit he was a barefaced liar, which he admitted to.... i still got 5 points though
Ha you really dont have a clue do you? I used to have a recovery company-you think those trucks run on fresh air and maintain themselves? Exactly,when you take out cost of diesel,cost of trade insurance,public liability,cost of maintenance and part, tax and mot-the business isnt as lucrative as you might think! And not to mention,disturbed sleep etc because retards cant drive their cars properly end up upside down in ditches etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
Winches etc arent free
So your trying to tell me they dont make nice profits every year then and they only just cover there costs :roll:
Is that why you dont own your recovery company anymore because you wasn't making any money ?
I find this all very hard to belive specially when winter settles in and they are run off there feet - Oh not to mention drivers are only aloud to drive for so many hours a day/night before they have to have so many hours off work before they can drive again - so saying they work really hard with no sleep is bull**** unless they are breaking the law so they can make more money :roll:
Yes,they do make profits,but not as extravagant as your making out.
Indeed,my outgoings were more than my incomings,thats why i packed it in,i was limited as to what i could carry and had no storage yard so had to turn stuff away/pass it on alot.
Course some break the law,i never used a tacho and did a run from Scarborough to Essex and back with only a break while i loaded up
I could only carry 1.5ton as my truck was 2 with me in it with diesel,most of the time i was borderline overweight but was the risk i took.
Dont forget in big city's recovery companies are 10 a penny so to compete your prices have to be competitive.Round Hull where im from,folk do them for as little as £25 a movement,bearing in mind from one side of town to the other could be 15miles.
recovery vehicles are tacho exempted i believe.
yep (well used to be when i workedfor a recovery company 3years ago)Quote:
Originally Posted by mowgli
kyall - at the end of the day there a business, a succesful business makes money wheres the problem ?
So yeah like I said no wonder all theses little companys like you jumped on the band wagon except you failed because you couldn't compete with the bigger companys that are ripping people off even when you broke the law doing it !
Dont get me wrong I dont mind the companys that offer to move your car from A to B but the companys that are taking your car from A to there depo then charge you stupid prices for doing so then most of the time get to keep your car which they then get even more money from by wieghing it in but not before they have taken the parts off that they can then sell on ebay such as lights and stuff ! Still think they dont make massive profits every year :roll:
Like I said they are in a win win situation and it's day light robbery !
Come and tell me that when they take your car to there depo and demand money for you to let them keep it or for you to get it backQuote:
Originally Posted by draper
If id of payed the last company that took my Nova the 150 notes they wanted to keep my car they would of kept my roll cage and all my sound system not to mention all the other parts which they could of sold on - Where is the justice in that ?
*edited* as dont know why i put number instead of Nova lol
well in that case, were the items mentioned in the policy as being fitted to your car??? if yes, then they must stay in the car, if no, then you are at fault.... belongings are loose items found in your car, the rest are part of the car.
if you pay the storage fees you have your car back - simples
what about the numpty who steals a car, causes an accident involving a few other vehicles and upturned cars ? 2 big trucks out at 2am, lifting overturned cars out of hedges, extra men needed, skates,side winching etc etc soon adds up to a £2k bill - the 'cause' of the accident doesnt pay as its nothing to do with him R.E. insurance/costs so the company is left with a defecit of £2k
as with everything (insurance premiums going up/VAT and tax rises) the 'honest'pay for the rest of the public
they already have done to me actually, and it was cheaper to do that then pay the price for a 1am lift out a hedge bottom :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
Jumped on what bandwagon exactly???Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
I couldnt compete because there simply wasnt the work,i travelled a 50mile radius introducing myself and giving out cards/leaflets to all to do with the motor industry.Just didnt get the response i had hoped for.No harm done.
I was a hell of alot cheaper than the bigger companies,at the time there just wasnt the work and money needed to stay afloat.Its the risk you take isnt it.
I never said i broke the law,i said i was "borderline"
Yes the insurance knew about the cage as for the sound system why do i have declare my sound system when cars come with them standerd ? - Also the insurance aint paying for the car to be kept there or for me to have it back because i wasn't coverd for that ( yes my own fault i know but that was my choice at the time ) ! So still dont see how they can keep things that you have put in the car yourself ! As like said before they aint going to just crush the car with it all in now are theyQuote:
Originally Posted by mowgli
Draper you have just confused me as you found it cheaper to pay to have the car back than it was to pay for them to remove the car from the hedge then them keep it :confused:
They still charge you for removing the car from the hedge no matter what if they are the ones who have removed it
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Originally Posted by Andy
You jumped on the band wagon of recovering people cars thinking you could make a profit only to find out you couldn't compete with the other companys - just like what happends with lots of other trades when people jump on the bandwagon thinking they to can make a quick buck only to find out they can't compete
Also thought you said you had to turn jobs away or send them onto other companys ! now your saying you didn't get enough work make your mind up Andy
Also running without a tacho in a wagon is breaking the law as far as I know because if stopped by VOSA they would ask to see your tacho if you dont have one they take your licence off you along with your truck ! All the wagons in my work even the 7.5 and even the vans we sometimes have to hire in have to have a tacho put in place by the driver before he drives off otherwise they are breaking the law even if they aint loaded - The law is always been changed by the goverment just to make it harder on wagon drivers ! Like they must have a 45min break where they can't even be sat in the wagon while it's on break if court by VOSA on break sat in the wagon again they are breaking the law
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Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
Read all of what is being written please, he said he could only carry up to certain weights and had to turn down jobs because of that and couldnt get enough of the type of work he could do!
And when was the last time you saw a van derived recovery truck having to have a tacho??
stupid_kulie, just accept you have been done over and get on with it.
Did you get a payout on the car? (if not due to 3rd party ins then thats your own gamble)
Its not about making a quick buck is it,its about trying to provide a decent future for your family.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
I had to turn SOME jobs away as i couldnt accomodate them on my truck,with the ones i turned away,it could have maybe worked,who knows.
You seem to have a real chip on your shoulder about recovery companies.Get over it.
our traffic management 18tons and 7 and halfs are tacho exempt lol we dont need em
Where in my posts did i mention i had a wagon?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY_kAyLL
Never had any bother off Vosa:thumb: