Blimey you must of been bored!
Done nothing with it, cant even remember when i last drove it :(
Off work this week & weather looking good so be nice to drag it out one afternoon.
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[i was at abit of a loose end yes lol drag it out an go and have some fun mate :) QUOTE=MARTIN KELSON;2069858]Blimey you must of been bored!
Done nothing with it, cant even remember when i last drove it :(
Off work this week & weather looking good so be nice to drag it out one afternoon.[/QUOTE]
It was time today to do a bit on the Nova.
Always like to do something to it over the winter as not to get bored. The 420 miles ive managed in it this year isnt enough to keep the enjoyment flowing.
The front end has always been the point of the car that annoys me the most. The fit of the front wings, the grille & bumper just never fit right so i decided today to take it apart & see what i can do about it.
I have brand new genuine GM wings to go on as the ones removed are patern items, i have a used GM grille to try & the rest will just be some jiggling around to see what i can do or find out why it is like it is.
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Last few pics not sure if the front panel has had work before. Other places there were no signs so not really sure.
Think its time for a new radiator too, 21yrs and showing signs its time for a change.
Need to get wings out of the loft & start to see how we get on.
Martin
good work, its in bits more than its together! lol
Im sure the genuine parts will help the alignment out no end Martin.... I had similar problems with the red one until I sourced genuine replacements for it. Plenty of patience/jiggery pokery and you'll be sorted. ;)
Nick.
You will never get perfect panel gaps, especially if its mostly as it was from the factory! Don't get me wrong, you can get good, straight lines, but it's about fiddling and getting with the bolt on bits... It's not got the build quality of a BMW etc!
I know it wont be perfect, its a 22yr old Nova with **** tolerances, but the bumper, grille & wings were terible.
Where the MKII wings meet the grille show it up worse so it needs a fettle to see what we can do with her :)
well its your attention to detail like this thats makes the car what it always has been; perfection.
This.
I work with brand new cars so when i was rebuilding mine i drove myself mad trying to get spot on gaps and the flush to be as i would check at work! lol it aint never going to happen! But, there is alot to be said for attention to detail. It is one of my little jobs to see what tweaks i can make to improve the uneven gaps in the areas you mention.
Looks nice and clean in the arches still. I'd like to see where the bits don't line up, as i bet its the places that most Novas don't..
Still love this car every time i see pictures of it!
Ive got a few pictures from years ago at Santa Pod. Need to get them up! I have one before the colour change i think!
Had an hour spare tonight so braved the cold & into the garage i went.
Picked a bumber bar up saturday morning so i went to remove the old one.
As you see by the pics the brackets that hold the bar to the shell have at some point been bent.
new one
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old one
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Its a start anyhow to why it may all fit like a turd.
My next question if anybody can help me, the bumper bar, what way around does it go on?
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Slots in the bar to the top or the bottom?
Mine has been removed at some point & just want to make sure when i trial fit it back together i atleast have the basics in the right place so any pics gratefully received.
When i get a spare day over Christmas i will dig the new wings from the loft & fit it back together & see what i can do with it.
Thanks
Iirc slots go at the top.... *goes to look for pics*
Spent the afternoon in the garage to trial fit the genuine wings i aquired a few years ago that have been sitting in the loft
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Holes didnt lign up which maybe a good thing as the alignment before was cra* with old wings so this may be a blessing
Next was to push it into some daylight & fit other side
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Couldnt get the bumper to fit. Only bit i was unsure of was the bumper bar, which way up it went so took it off & turned it around & hey presto
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Quite happy with this side. Not perfect but loads better i think than before
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Drivers side not so good, better than before & maybe able to get it closer
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Next i need to speak nicely to Ade to see if he can do me some painting
I want wings & grille (obviously) & maybe bumper & bonnet, also thinking if i do that to do the boot too & remove the wiper arm
Fingers crossed iam on the right track
Martin
Its amazing the the detail that has gone into this, nice under the bonnet especially.
I can't get why you guys don't use mudflaps if even just to protect your lovely paint, it seems to be that mudflaps are less popular over your side of the water.
You need the headlights/flashers in as well Martin to see how they line up With the new parts also. If their as good as the rest then I'd send it for paint and fettle the final fit afterwards. Looks pretty good as far as a nova goes though! ;)
Nick
I was tring to find some new headlights too.
Quite hard to come accross, think ive found one, just need to find another!
Right i will pop bak over next few days & stick the headlights in & see what we have.
Nick, is there actually much adjustment to be made with wings, grille etc? Didnt seem alot i could actually do to make hem better regarding alinment?
When I was struggling with the same issues on the red one I had to use genuine flashers/ headlights as well as body panels to cure the problem. Alignment will come through patience as it's more a case of press/pull/ bend into position and nip up until your happy throughout. I have seen washers used underneath the headlights to raise them and flashers shaved around the edges also to suit but its not ideal. Go genuine throughout and even if its has had a tidy slam panel job in the past you should be somewere near. I will check the loft for you as I may have a spare mk2 headlight which you would be welcome to.
Nick.
Valeo are genuine and can still be bought new if you contact them or an approved supplier
Looking good lad, glad to see your putting the wings to use :thumb:
Hard to think a car this good can just get better and better as the years go on.
I am sorry, i told you the wrong way for the bumper bar.
The lining up looks better.
I was blaming you at the time when I was unbolting it to turn it round :)
lol sorry, that's why i unbolt it from the legs.. Less bolts.
Had new one including legs to go on.
My own fault, should have noticed when I removed it what way to put it back!!
Ordered new headlights & indicators too & text Ade about paint so were on course at the moment.
Where d'you find the lights pal?
Nice one I got a couple at the spares day last year but they were double manual adjust which I'd never seen before
Great project mate. if you dont mind how much was the rose jointed kit? cheers craig
The rose jointed kit from from 'Jonlem' on here
Think it was about £500!!
Never thought Dave about the adjusters to be honest if manual or electric.
Never use them anyway so I suppose you can mix & match if worse happens & there a mixture!
Dave how is the project coming along, must be nearing the paint stage now?
Project not touched for over a year now - still to bond on roof skin and finish bits and pieces off before paint
Got O/S manual, N/S electric - both brand new Valeo - Would prefer another manual N/S if you need to swop