The Counts Track Day Nova Build

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Originally Posted by Benn

Christ the front turrets look... Well crazy. Love the fab work, would rep you if i could.

Are they still under the height of the wings?

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They are at wing level now....

i was carrying a bacon and egg roll aswell lol.

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Originally Posted by trackdaynova

with the same amount of power (allegedly) and over 120kg ladended less (allegedly) I'm suprised you didn't own me. :p lol

nothing to do with the cubic capacity of your block mind, just the above facts lol :D loving the banter

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Some very good points you make there Olly and I should be up on power and down on weight compared to your old car :D :thumb:

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Originally Posted by Rick Draper

TBH biggest issue running urba low on a nova is not suspension angles its necking out the CV joints.

That was my nova on its ledas running the highest possible i could run.

O and it still had a ruck load of travel to go.

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As Olly said i am already aware of this...my saloon is lower that that atm so i am fully aware of the issues surrounding drive shaft angle etc and will be trying to address this issue....

Sounds good but TBH i dont see where the idea that low = good for a track car? To a point imho but if you want to run that low the you need to do as olly says and change the lower pivot placement, raise rack etc. Would be easier to cut the front off and space frame it all imho, then you would end up with ideal suspension geometry for what you are seaming to want to achieve?

I realize you have done the turret mod for suspension travel (where as i got custom shocks). That was the highest i could physically run my car, it also had the sump around 2" off the floor.

I would guess you are looking towards a dry sump, shallower bell housing, raising the diff up (seen the sequential box mentioned).

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Originally Posted by trackdaynova

regardless of 'needing' the shock travel Oli, the more you have, the better it is, you can't argue with that.

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Not really as it can end up been at the expense of droop which is also as important as travel.

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Originally Posted by trackdaynova

with the same amount of power (allegedly) and over 120kg ladended less (allegedly) I'm suprised you didn't own me. :p lol

nothing to do with the cubic capacity of your block mind, just the above facts lol :D loving the banter

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I had a faulty coil pack and standard box, you know that Mr Hewitt, you know that! :mad:

lollollol

+1 rep james awesome work, did i hear the word sequential? what a car this is going to be

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Originally Posted by Rick Draper

Sounds good but TBH i dont see where the idea that low = good for a track car? To a point imho but if you want to run that low the you need to do as olly says and change the lower pivot placement, raise rack etc. Would be easier to cut the front off and space frame it all imho, then you would end up with ideal suspension geometry for what you are seaming to want to achieve?

I realize you have done the turret mod for suspension travel (where as i got custom shocks). That was the highest i could physically run my car, it also had the sump around 2" off the floor.

I would guess you are looking towards a dry sump, shallower bell housing, raising the diff up (seen the sequential box mentioned).

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As said before i'm not going super low and i have already raised the rack.

As you said i will be 'looking towards a dry sump, shallower bell housing, and raising the diff' all in the future as im not money money atm :thumb:

Do you know if a shallower bell housing is available?

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Originally Posted by Rick Draper

Would be easier to cut the front off and space frame it all imho, then you would end up with ideal suspension geometry for what you are seaming to want to achieve

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like this prehaps?


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...DSC05258-1.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...DSC05255-1.jpg

^^^ looks interesting!!!

shame its not rwd.

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Originally Posted by matthew172

like this prehaps?


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...DSC05258-1.jpg

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Pics like this are no good for my health...lol lol

I would love to do something like that but i'll be honest and say i'm not that genned up on the idea - granted if i had enough photos i could easily copy it but to build something like this from scratch would take a lot of head scratching and i really want to use the car this year.

+rep though - anyone else got any pics like this......?

dude it looks like that thing would weigh more than a Vectra lol

I can imagine you've seen them and I'm not sure if they're of any use but...

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/95fcb43a.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/8e5f1e1a.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/0f3ec0a8.jpg

:confused:

A Vectra?! don't you mean a car transported carrying 6 Vectras lol

Matt i have seen Austins before yes but thanks for the input - As Olly has pointed out its enough weight to give Oli a period and sh!t him self all at once plus the time factor and at then end of the day i don't want to go there atm so i will continue as i am for the moment.

lol Fairdoos.

Had a bit of a mince after Dinner with the missus tonight...

I made a start on the front cage legs to front turrets mountings

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1253.jpg

Bent up another 45mm strip

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1254.jpg

Then cut the funk out of the O/S turret

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1255.jpg

And tacked it in as before

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1257.jpg

Nice and level

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1259.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1260.jpg

Started to weld it in and clean it up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1262.jpg

Made up another set of supports and welded those in

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1263.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1264.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1265.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1266.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1267.jpg

Here are some pics to put the turret height in to perspective with the wings in place

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1268.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1269.jpg

And the gap between the straight edge balanced on the wings and the turrets

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1270.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1271.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1272.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1273.jpg

And some others for the hell of it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1274.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1275.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1276.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1277.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1278.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1279.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1280.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1281.jpg

Enjoy :D

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Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot

+rep though - anyone else got any pics like this......?

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Not quite as good but..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...p/image008.jpg

yes, yes, yes. simple as that. :D

Turrets are funking ace, fit seams just right too.

That would handle like a dream.....NOT lol

Never fails to amaze me

be sure to run a seam of weld across the top of the front strengthening support on the offside, wouldn't want filling up with water and rusting from the inside out :D lol

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Originally Posted by trackdaynova

yes, yes, yes. simple as that. :D

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Do you mean my attempt Darling?

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Originally Posted by Benn

fit seams just right too.

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Keh?

struggling to understand the basics tonight darling? lol

yes, yes, yes as in "good work"

ffs

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Originally Posted by trackdaynova

be sure to run a seam of weld across the top of the front strengthening support on the offside, wouldn't want filling up with water and rusting from the inside out :D lol

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They arnt finished yet Olly you silly billy lol lol fecking welders duty time is ****e when your giving it large :roll:

As in the fit is perfect to tyhe wings and that they are level.

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Originally Posted by trackdaynova

struggling to understand the basics tonight darling? lol

yes, yes, yes as in "good work"

ffs

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You could have been commenting on the photo directly above your post....not that you would to be fair

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Originally Posted by Benn

As in the fit is perfect to tyhe wings and that they are level.

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Roger that :thumb:

Roger whom? lol

Yes, you're correct James, I was not commenting on the photo Benn posted, but to your progress from tonight love.

PS: might aswell abuse the forum, can you ask Danni to check her Facebook messages please. Ta. x

Roger roger roger.....

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Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot

They arnt finished yet Olly you silly billy lol lol fecking welders duty time is ****e when your giving it large :roll:

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whip the power side cover off and have a desk fan blowing on it whilst welding. i bet it never cuts out :thumb:

Great idea but ive been there and tried it to no real avail - can you see it sitting on the welder in the photo lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1278.jpg

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Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot

:confused: not sure Oli - It was mainly done to give good shock travel not to go major low so the TCA angle, inner arch clearance and Inner TCA mounting point shouldn't need and alterations....so ithink you can keep ypur piss to yourself lol

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That's totally the reason my Fiesta rally machine had modded turrets, can set the ride height low if desired and still have lots of lovely suspension travel.

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/Image313.jpg

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/Image315.jpg

Yes matey but less of this Fiesta business lol

hahahahaha. multicultural.

Quality workmanship as always James :D