all in a days work eh..?
not even jim would have been able to 'fix it' for anyone; as well as this has gone.. inspiring. Gettin quite hardcore.
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all in a days work eh..?
not even jim would have been able to 'fix it' for anyone; as well as this has gone.. inspiring. Gettin quite hardcore.
mate! your an animal at this game! wanna come down one weekend give me hand?
Just got back in from Track and Road :) Had a loopy drive in it on the way home which was appreciated :)
Power @ flywheel 197.7hp @ 7620rpm
Power @ wheels 174.1hp
Torque 148.9lb ft
Fantastic results !
Ollys "chuffed" yet nigh on asleep lol
Vids to follow
We got there to find Giles off mig with his rather tasty xe'd powered Cavalier which was good to see, once again a great service from both Steves @ Track and Road on both cars.
Looking forwards to vids, and it would be an Olly update if there wasnt pics...
Great results
Martin
Sounds all good then Ol, will be nice to see the vids.. 197, lol so close...
Cheers lads, yeh, I'm very happy with the results, especially considering the mods, or lack of, the engine has.
Very very thorough mapping by Steve Greenald & Steve Pitcher really really cannot recommend those guys enough, and once I have videos sorted I'll be hosting them on YouTube.
I said before I went, that I would be happy with 190bhp (165atw) and 150lbft, so it's exceeded expectations... and thats real horsepower too, the accuracy is phenominal, they changed the ign adv to see if we can get the 1% to make it 200, but it came back with 197.6bhp, so the consistancy was unreal.
As said by the Steves, on any other rollers, it'd probably make 200 lol
Not alot of footage, but I'll put together what I have and host it anyway, as I said i would for the guys at TnR.
Will post up graph in a tick once JB's sorted his scanner out
Thats a fantastic looking graph!!!
Well done olly, youve got yourself a great engine there
Cheers Ad, we've just put my graph, and your 222.4bhp graph together, and we have identical WHP figures! :)
Would be great to see them both on track together soon... :thumb:
Glad it went very well for you Olly.
That graph looks awesome, really is a credit to how good the mappers on when they get graphs that smooth.
Fantastic result that is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonlem
A real credit to a few guys (yourselfs included Olly & Jon ) who know what they want, know how to get it and push the boudaries that little bit more for things to pay off :thumb: :cool:
christ with a graph like that it must pull like a train
awesome result olly, must be pleased. whats it like to drive putting it all through the box, got one of them on my shopping list.
whats giles' cavalier doing there, my new engine is to a similar spec.
vid vid vid vid vid vid
that graph is awesome
soooo smooth!
and a lovely torque line too
as above
i bet it pulls like fukk!
Might have to wait a while but im def up for that...
Just shows you the different a "proper" gearbox makes!
When my engine comes back i'll have to start saving for another mapping session, might take a while lol
trackday, check your pm box
Giles was having the map finally tweeked :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by elgan
And it was making a LOT of power :eek: :D
Jon can u pm me to save me chasin him up on mig.. im sure were on an almost identical spec save mines destined for a nova.
Decided to do a seperate thread for Track n Road conversations, should any arise... Mapping thread, including video is here:
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92015
Hope you enjoy :)
You must be well happy and a bit gutted it didnt make 200 bhp at the flywheel. Would a pair of pulleys get you to 200bhp !?! ;)
I had a set of 2nd hand Willy Dynalites running Greenstuff pads on my old 2.0 8v Saloon, best brakes I've ever experienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by trackdaynova
I also blagged a full set of front and rear EBC turbo groove discs and RedStuff pads for my old Octavia VRS, and it did 2 trips to the Nurburgring without complaint, when everyone around me was suffering with brake fade.
I'm sure EBC changed their material a good few years ago to combat poor reputation, but TBH I can't fault them. Much better than the Mintex C1144 pads I ran on my old 2.0 GSi.
DS2500s have a very good rep. One of the boys does a lot of track work with his an Evo 6 and swears by DS3000s, but he did say they have ruined his wheels lol.
With Bedford trackday this Saturday, I decided to look at car briefly to do some bits that just needed finishing off before it seen the track again.
So I fitted the passenger footplate again, and refitted the doorbars on the rollcage. Helmets are in the net ready, as is the camcorder on its mount (however vision is slightly restricted by seat "ears")
Got my intercom setup in there too - so decided to go out for a blat, and the Ferrodo DS2500s have certainly bedded in now - so back now, all ready for early doors on Saturday... yay...
What times it finishe on sat. Might pop down and get some fottage of the day ?
It's 8:30am - 4:30pm if I remember correctly, but I think you can come and go as much as you please :)
Trackday wasn't really much to talk about, in short, I got black flagged 20 laps in due to being too noisy.
Static limit @ Bedford is 101dB, mine came in at 100.6dB @ 4.5krpm
Driveby limit was 87.5dB @ 20metres away, on my 20th lap, I got black flagged with 88dBs... damn thing.
http://www.trackphoto.co.uk/images/m...A/DSC_9518.jpg http://www.trackphoto.co.uk/images/m...A/DSC_9743.jpg
http://www.trackphoto.co.uk/images/m...A/DSC_9293.jpg http://www.trackphoto.co.uk/images/m...A/DSC_9389.jpg
In light of this, I need to quieten my car down at both induction and exhaust end, so today I bought this which will sort the induction out...
Details are:
New from Pipercross is the 600-series sealed airbox designed to fit all 600 baseplate applications and is ideal for vehicles where intake space is restricted.
http://www.pipercross.net/images/600_airbox.jpg
- Dramatically reduces intake temperatures
- Reduction in intake noise - ideal for trackday regulations
- 78mm depth, designed for space-critical applications
- Suitable for rampipes up to 45mm in height
- Available in left or right hand configurations
- Attaches to all existing PX600 Pipercross baseplates
- Replaceable foam Pipercross filter, with 75mm or 100mm alloy air intake
Now all thats left, is to get a new 3-box system made, or increase the sizes of my 2 boxes currently...
Half a bloody decibel over the limit, i would of been pissed off lol
oh i was, and with Bedford - no second chances, one black flag and it's home time... but then, i did know that before the day.
mate i went with who has a Cossie, got black flagged at 87.7dB :(
oh, and to pish me off moreso, the footage i did get is gobbled for some reason, old tape i presume, so might invest in a cheap HDD camcorder, to prevent that happening again
Not good.
Whats Donningtons limits?
You must be quite close to them now with the tb's etc fitted?
Those PX600 air box's are good, I'm looking at one for mine. Where'd you pick yours up from? Price?
Damn noise limits
Ad - Donington is usually 101dB driveby (but thats at trackside, not at 20metres away)
Just about to book onto Rockingham, which have 103 static and driveby (but again, at trackside, not 20metres)
Ash - I got mine from www.ThePipercrossShop.co.uk as it happens lol very very helpful people, I bought the C6100RH (Airbox, 100mm inlet pipework, integral filter, right hand entry as you look at it), I bought the C6051 backing plate for it to fix to, as I'm going to me mounting it half way up my 90mm trumpets as they don't make one to accomodate 90mms, and they're throwing in a C604D sausage filter (125mm ID) for when I'm not running the box. I paid ?231.94 delivered.
Breakdown being, C6100RH Airbox - ?199.99, C6051 Backing Plate - ?32.95, and the sausage filter is free, plus free delivery.
cool
Hi,
Bedford Autodrome is notorious for kicking people out. They have been known to lower the noise limit during a day with no warning and no refund. We avoid it for that reason.
You will not have any problems at Rockingham, I guarantee. We've never had a hint of trouble at Donnington either. The only other circuit we had trouble with was Goodward and they told us to give the sound beacons a wide birth and lift off a little.
MC
Bad luck mate. Its my local circuit - about 4 miles as the crow flies but I've never been:wtf:
I know of locals that make it their business to complain. Its always had problems I'm afraid.
I've wondered how good those airboxes actually are. I'll be interested to hear (albeit quietlylol ) how you get on!
As i will be Olly.... as discussed before!
The big airbox I made for mine took the bark out of the TB's.
I had the same happen to me Olly, it's as annoying as hell! Hence why my car now has the two intake options and all those silencers in the exhaust system.
As for the recording device. I have been looking at solid state recorders for a long while. What I will be getting (currently anyway) is the PDR100. It's a bit pricey but it is solid state and a damn fine unit as far as I can see. You can also get a small LCD screen for it for around ?46. It's an MPEG2 recorder so rendering the footage is simple.
PDR100
no news in the airbox at the moment, but i'll be mounting it the same as Lee He****y as done on his red 1800.
provisionally booked on at rockingham... just need to do internal shifter, and get bigger exhaust middle box, and back box ideally
bad luck with noise mate, wil is your SC loud too? maybe its a combination ofg all three exhaust,TBs,SC hope ypu get it sorted :D
Confirmed booking at Rockingham Raceway now, for Sunday 2nd March... which is 2 weeks on Sunday... :) ?160, open pit all day if you book within the first 15 spaces, then it goes up to ?195.
Airbox setup will be on by then, and I will be taking some extra ideas to quiten exhaust down should I need to, but at Rockingham, you get a couple of chances to reduce your noise, which is better.
Tonight I bought the CD of photos from Bedford too (full res ones), so will post them up when I get them through, noticed from the drive, and the pics, that my suspension was set way too soft, but I didn't exactly have a chance to change it, with getting flagged on my second outting lol
Found a fix for my exhaust noise, I'm going to buy one of these "dB killer exhaust baffles" from eBay.
http://www.service-champions.co.uk/i...nrk_largel.jpg
Simple really, just slide in the end of your tailpipe into your back box, and nut and bolt on.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTORCYCLE-EXH...QQcmdZViewItem
The only problem I can forsee, is that the widest part of the above item is 48mm shoulder, and the internal diameter of my tailpipe is 52mm, so I'll need to weld on another thin skin to pack it out.
Hopefully that'll be and end to my noise problems :)