Nice one looking good joff!
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Nice one looking good joff!
good work joff, its really coming together nicely now:thumb:
Make a video of the first start so we can all see !! :thumb:;)
I was thinking of doing that ! On You Tube or Google Video I would think - won't be happy if it doesn't start but hey ho these things are sent to try us!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BigStan
Shouldn't be long now!
Joff
Ok mate well definately consider it, it would be good !
this wip always gets me going again if i ever loose my enthousasim(sp) in my nova i just look at this thread and it comes flooding back, well done mate, your an inspiration to many people, hope to see this at pv and many other vx shows mate.
Bloody hell, this car has come a long way since I last looked at the thread !
Not to sound picky BUT I wouldn't mount the electronics for the HID setup there, water will pour down that part of the car either when washing it or driving in the rain, nothing is that waterproof.
It might not be a problem but if it was mine I'd either move them into the bay somewhere (and there is room ;) ) or turn them upside down so the water does not sit on the electric plug side of the units
Who made the Rad and IC ?
One wire is a sealed into the unit from the factory, the other I have now used silicone seal both inside & out so should be OK - thanks for thinking about it anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonlem
The intercooler and radiator were made up by Radtech Ltd based in the West Midlands - made a spot on job with them both!
Joff
No problem mate, could just imagine you in the middle of nowhere with no lights ! Sounds like you have it covered though.
I thought that was the Radtec setup, I used Pro Alloy as their local for my escort but fook me do you pay for the finish !
Have you moved the oil cooler pipework as advised or do you think it will be ok, if the pipes touch the body I would wrap them in something as a old xe nova I had used a similar setup and eventually it did run through due to engine movement.
Food for thought, looks awesome though, look forward to seeing it at PV
There is very little movement from the engine due to the group N TAS solid mounts so I will keep an eye on the pipework and make sure its OKQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonlem
Joff
TBH mate I've just been in the garage and looked at my mates and on full lock there is probably enough room for -10 hose so steering clearance wont be a issue, 15" wheels though on my Ads.
I have also used the same mounts before and trust me if there touching the bodywork then they will rub through as that part of the engine will move the most.
As its not a shonky old xe you have in there I would be aware as no oil pressure does bad things lol ;)
I do have a solution for this if its the problem I think it is. I made a bracket to hold the oil pipes that bolts on to the engine utilizing a spare bolt hole just above the sump and next to the oil pump (where that big bolt is). If you get it right the oil pipes clear the wheel, the bottom pulley and make it to the front without touching anything.
If your intrested I will look for some piccys. Unfortunatley my engine is sitting out of the car at the mo, so if I can't find any piccys (Im sure I have some though) I can't post any. Be warned its not pretty but im sure you could make a pretty version.
I don't usually post in WIP threads because there is only so many times you can say great etc etc. However i've been following this one as I do alot of WIP threads. So whilst im posting I thought I would add - Top work Joffhttp://www.pvgevents.net/forum/style...yahoo_clap.gif
Dar would be great if you could post some pics ;)
Bit more work done today ....
Got the central console sorted and all wired up . Put in the wires for the fan and all the switches and satnav. Even sorted a cable which will adjust the air temp!!! The blue flock looks better in person bit these give you an idea.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...va/dash14a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...va/dash15a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...va/dash16a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...va/dash17a.jpg
I then filled up the cooling system - no leaks :thumb:
I then popped round to my local garage and got a can of Unleaded and put some fuel in the tank - again no leaks :thumb:
I filled up the oil in the engine and prepared to crank over the engine to get some oil pumped round all the various parts (mainly the bearings in the turbo) and hit a snag ! The engine now cranks from a push to start button on the dash and this is routed through a relay on the fuse box. However upon pushing the button, the relay clicks but the soleniod doesn't kick the starter into life :confused: :confused:
Also checked for fuel pressure (none :( ) so unsure whats happening here!!
Both problems will need further investigation and I hope I do not have to pull the dash out to sort it!!!! A bit of patience and a bit of logical fault finding should sort things out!
Joff
cant beleive how professional the dash looks joff!!
totaly amazing mate!! top job!!
How many pin relay is it? 4?Quote:
Originally Posted by joff-turbo-nova
You will have a 12v feed to the relay from the switch, then a earth from the relay(which earths the relay solenoid when)
The other two wires, one will go to the starter solenoid, and the other should be a Permanent red 12v...
You get a click from the relay, so the earth and 12v to it(from the switch) is fine. The fault must lie in the main 12v feed to the relay, or the feed from the relay to the starter solenoid.
Or the connection at the solenoid is bad, no engine earth, or a bad solenoid.
You wont have any fuel pressure will you not, as no cranking engine=no fuel pump...... Fuel pump doesn't run unless the engine is running/cranking.
That dash looks amazing, top top work there :thumb:
might sound stupid but have you checked the earths, or you haven't used switching live instead of a permanent on something? I doubt it tho looking at your work...
EDIT: Didn't see LLTN post
I thought the fuel pump primes when you turn the ignition on????Quote:
Originally Posted by Long Live The Nova
Joff
Pretty sure it doesn't on Xe/Let.
Only when cranking.
Is it on std management?
Mine primes on the ignition been turned on but its not on standard management.
Yep standard management system - I'll get the multi-meter out next week and start tracing wires back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Long Live The Nova
1st - change the relay unit just to make sure its not a dodgy unit!
2nd - check to see if there is a complete circuit from the soleniod to the relay unit in the fusebox.
3rd - check to see if the starter wire is being presented with a +ve
We'll then see what presents itself!
Joff
Just to confirm the pump definitely doesn't prime unless cranking with an XE/LET in.
Crank sensor could cause this fault
well how'd you get on Joff?
My old XEJ didn't prime unless crank sensor had been triggered. Had a whole evening finding that one out.. impressed I wasn't (not least because observation totally contradicted the Bosch technicians manual!!!!)
Rather than **** about with wires just turn ignition on (plugs out) and hand crank engine a small amount... listen out for the tell tale momentary prime.
Starter motor solenoid - no idea, guess you want to check the wiring at its end.
Ben.
WOW! Some real progress here Joff! Dash looks great!
Out of interest, what stat to rad hose you using? 1.3/1.4 or GTE/GSI?
Also, my nova doesn't prime the pump until cranking.
And, this is how I done mine and there's now clearance about 5-10mm.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ld/0712065.jpg
Simps i think that is how myne is going to have to go! as i have already said myne did not fit doing it the way Joff has, just not enough clearance on full lock to be safe, thats with 16" et 45 wheels and 195/45 tyres
Quick update ......
IT'S RUNNING !!!!!
Video and commentary to follow shortly on Google Video.
Joff
Quote:
Originally Posted by joff-turbo-nova
:thumb: Hurry up with the video then!
Its uploaded but Google have to vet it so it won't be available till the morning - couldn't get you-tube to validate my account so had to use google.Quote:
Originally Posted by novacabrio
Patience is a virtue!
Also got a strange ECU error code using my Sykes Pickavant 2 line code reader - its "114 Boost Cntrl Idle High"
Any ideas??
Joff
Quote:
Originally Posted by joff-turbo-nova
:roll:
:( but i wanna see it now lolQuote:
Originally Posted by joff-turbo-nova
more delays!! Come on joff! Get finger out!!
You-tube is now playing ball ....
Well a rather eventful day all round !
First job was get the engine cranking - put in a extra wire with a crocodile clip on the end and connected to the soleniod wire on the starter motor.
Got the video camera out and shot the results - the engine cranked without any problems!!!
Next job ..... put the plugs, leads and distributor cap on and see what happens ....
and.....
it sort of started ......
then died !!!
No matter what it would not idle at all.
Logic then kicked in ...... I spotted I still had the immobiser on - doh !!!!!
Immobiliser off .....
Started first time !!!!!
HURRAY !!!!!!
Some of you wanted some video footage of the event so here it is on You Tube ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dezRansJEY0
(you may have to wait a bit until its approved by You Tube)
Also sorted out the starter problem - it was the relay in the fuse box that was causing the problem - so it means it starts from the button and that I don't have to take the dash out to find the fault - another HURRAY !!!
However a couple more problems have surfaced now the engine is running ! Firstly the oil cooler unions are leaking oil - these need a bit of a tweak ! Secondling there is quite a trickle of coolant coming from the back of the block somewhere near the starter under the inlet manifold and thirdly the alternator charge warning box on the digidash is flashing.
I have already sorted the pipes but the alternator problem and the leak are on the list of jobs to sort.
Enjoy the footage !
Joff
congrats joff the vid is great. always a great feeling when they first fire into life
Brill Car, Brill Vid...
Very good vid Joff, you should go into TV!!
Good work, hope the water leaks an easy fix. Possibly just a jublie clip needing tightened at the rear!
Keith
Cool little vid. had some downloading issues at 4min20ish & heard the 'wahey' after it fired about 11 times now. Actually quite funny.
Get some lube on the threads of the jubilee clips that are leaking, you'll get more turns on them & thus they go tighter.
Top stuff, glad we will have this on the stand at PV.
Outstanding joff bet that was an extremely happy moment for you, very impressed as always, she getting close now im getting giddy and excited for you lol!!
verry good mate, wot we've all been waitin to see, and im sure it is you too! btilliant stuff! looks great!