here we go, big block v's small block (not the normal thread)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BRoadGhost

MC:- "What YOU fail to understand is that everyone taking part in this discussion knows each other personally"

Truth of the matter is they don't.

Unfortunately MC in saying this and calling people you don't know personally "a cock" you represent the most narrow minded retarded hateful cnuts that reside in any given forum. You wanna take it to a derogatory level then I'll meet you there you sh1t eating cock muncher.

Evidently you know fcuk all about what's being built behind closed doors nor will you ever reach some of the most brilliant people behind them as you choose to dismiss rather than question. You would represent a knuckle dragging nova owner even if you had a one litre peter, so go ahead contiune with the abuse without justifying a statment like you're a cock.

FACT is pal YOU'RE the FCUKING cock

---

For goodness sake, fair enough, he called you a cock, but do you really think the best way to counter that is to call him a sh*t eating c*ck muncher? I might have had some sympathy for you there, but i have less than none now.

I mean come on, you should have left the retort 'and YOU are' back at school. Just take a chill pill.

Is there something in the air making people uber aggressive recently?????

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BRoadGhost

MC:- "What YOU fail to understand is that everyone taking part in this discussion knows each other personally"

Truth of the matter is they don't.

Unfortunately MC in saying this and calling people you don't know personally "a cock" you represent the most narrow minded retarded hateful cnuts that reside in any given forum. You wanna take it to a derogatory level then I'll meet you there you sh1t eating cock muncher.

Evidently you know fcuk all about what's being built behind closed doors nor will you ever reach some of the most brilliant people behind them as you choose to dismiss rather than question. You would represent a knuckle dragging nova owner even if you had a one litre peter, so go ahead contiune with the abuse without justifying a statment like you're a cock.

FACT is pal YOU'RE the FCUKING cock

---

He might have legs like a male chicken, but thats about it really....

so then, show us an uber closed doors build, or STFU ;)

Does any one on here in all the years actually know who BroadGhost,is or ever met him?
I would also like to see his project as his talk makes me think it will be a very very very ingenius bit of engineering.

Scott

it's flushsimon from the old rb scott ;)

Totally off topic, but definetly one of the most informative & technically reading threads thats been on here for a long long time!!

IMHO, fcuk you all - forced induction small block will own all :thumb:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BRoadGhost

MC:- "What YOU fail to understand is that everyone taking part in this discussion knows each other personally"

Truth of the matter is they don't.

Unfortunately MC in saying this and calling people you don't know personally "a cock" you represent the most narrow minded retarded hateful cnuts that reside in any given forum. You wanna take it to a derogatory level then I'll meet you there you sh1t eating cock muncher.

Evidently you know fcuk all about what's being built behind closed doors nor will you ever reach some of the most brilliant people behind them as you choose to dismiss rather than question. You would represent a knuckle dragging nova owner even if you had a one litre peter, so go ahead contiune with the abuse without justifying a statment like you're a cock.

FACT is pal YOU'RE the FCUKING cock

---

I need say nothing.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Adam

Only problem with the small block 1800s is tbh a lack of available mods that give proven gains...? If your not happy with the standard power(about 120hp iirc ?).
Apart from de-cat exhaust manifolds, thats about it.
So i dont see them as giving any real benefit over a small block 1600, plus they cost more etc.....

Maybe id change my mind of i saw one in action though/drove one

If i were tb'ing a small block, then yeah id deffo go with a 1800.

---

Speak to the Corsa C boys... I was at TOTD last month and there was a Z18XE turbo running a safe 205bhp with NO internal mods.. The professional opinion of TOTD was that it had alot more to give..

As for advantages over the 1600:

1) The head design is light years ahead.
2) Its a long stroke engine so naturally it produces more torque.
3) It uses flashable solid state management.
4) The standard inlet manifold wasnt designed by morons.

Fair enough. Would be good to see what one in a nova goes like

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lee

Yes, but to avoid a complete ballache, you need to run aftermarket management, and you also need to do something about the flybywire throttle.

At the moment, while there are still LETS and XE's availiable, its still not cost effective to go for the Z18, no matter how good it is, although on the flipside, finding LETS and XE's that dont need a full rebuild is getting harder, which does offset the cost.

---

the early x18xe1's are throttle cable lee, found in the early mk4 astra and vectra. The looms in these cars don't look too complex either.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by John H

the early x18xe1's are throttle cable lee, found in the early mk4 astra and vectra. The looms in these cars don't look too complex either.

---

Is the x18 a smallblock?